Hey, im wondering if any cops out there could tell me if nitrous use on the street is legal, as long as you dont speed or reckless driving?

I think its just done by state. Its legal in some states and illegal in others, you'll just have to find out what the law is in TN.

In CA you can have all of the plumbing and equipment on your vehicle, but if have the bottle hooked up, you are cooked. Especially if you get popped and the lines are chilly!!

i'm pretty sure it's illegal here. all my friends who have it have hidden setups ala tFatF. they tell me it's illegal, and i don't see why they'd go to the trouble of hiding it if it weren't.

I have always been told that Nitrous IS LEGAL in TN. All else fails ask your local inspectors/state police.......:D :D ;)

Originally posted by Shaker
I have always been told that Nitrous IS LEGAL in TN. All else fails ask your local inspectors/state police.......:D :D ;)

I don't see why they would sell it w/out a disclaimer if it was illegal. A couple buds have it - and their's isn't hidden.

I many states you have to have a HAZ-MAT endorsement on your DL to carry it around.

Definately state by state...

I know it's legal in Nebraska, not that fact will help you any.

http://www.sema.org/fedleg/stateredhot/nebraska800.html

Just curious here, but why would it be illegal???

Since the question was asked: Is it legal for USE on the streets.

why would it be illegal to USE?

I would think the question would be: Is it SMOG-legal for the
particular vehicle/year/application....

If it's legal to hook it up to your car smog-wize, then I'd think
it would be legal to use..... Fed-law?? Not DOT approved??

A blower and methanol is legal in california.......On a pre-smog
vehicle..........

I wouldn't think NOS would be any big deal at all........

And, unless the cops made you open your hood or trunk, and
even knew what the hell a NOS bottle is, I would think you'd
be safe anywhere using it..................

--Just my uneducated/assuming opinion

--Sherpa

i would think it would not be street legal. something like excessive acceleration...? i can't remember though. we talked about it when i was taking these types of classes. i've since come to me senses. :D

well, you certainly don't use NOS for economy (read: slow) driving :D:flipoff2:

i dunno... all my friends have hidden systems. i haven't checked with the MAN yet, but that's a good idea (since i don't run NOS, i don't check... heheh). ;)

what exactly are you going to NOS anyway?

Well, maybe it has something to do with it's volatile nature?
(It goes KABOOM sometimes.....)

dont think it is large enough quantity for a haz endorsment.
the word is 'oxidizer', aids combustion
I have had cops and others ask what the air tank is for

why can you carry Argon and Acetylene bottles w/out a haz mat but not NOS?

The only reason I could see it not being legal would be the hazard if you get into a accident and the Rescue folks have the bottle blow up. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Mo
Definately state by state...

I know it's legal in Nebraska, not that fact will help you any.

http://www.sema.org/fedleg/stateredhot/nebraska800.html

Sweet! I planned on hooking up a set up to help out my little 6 cyl. I figure if I blow the motor its a good excuse to go to a v-8 or an EFI motor.

Originally posted by The Adam Blaster
Well, maybe it has something to do with it's volatile nature?
(It goes KABOOM sometimes.....)

Actually Nitrous Oxide is not volatile at all. Contrary to popular belief it is not flammable or explosive. It is much more oxygen rich than normal air and thus promotes the burning of fuels more efficiently. remember, fire needs oxygen to burn so adding oxygen helps it burn more even tho oxygen, or NO2 is not flammable in and of itself. Rupturing a NO2 tank would be no more dangerous than rupturing a CO2 or Oxygen tank, not nesseccarily safe, but not a giant fireball either. Just a very fast powerful venting of gas.

As for the Legality, in CA you can have it plumbed and installed as long as the tank is not hooked up. The reason this is legal is because with no tank it has no effect on emmissions. they allow you to have the equipment in a NON Operational state. The way they want you to do it is keep the tank at home, and install it when you go to the race track or other "off highway" locations.

Dallas

Originally posted by WillyPete
well, you certainly don't use NOS for economy (read: slow) driving :D:flipoff2:

i dunno... all my friends have hidden systems. i haven't checked with the MAN yet, but that's a good idea (since i don't run NOS, i don't check... heheh). ;)

what exactly are you going to NOS anyway?

Well i was planning on installing it on my 4 runner to help me go over the mountians and through mud. yes it has a little 22RE but a 50hp hit shouldnt be too much for a cop to pull me.

why get nos if your not gunna speed & drive recklessly??:flipoff2:

So i can knock the snot out of little hondas

Originally posted by TrailRunner
So i can knock the snot out of little hondas

How about a 350 in that toy :flipoff2:

Originally posted by brector


How about a 350 in that toy :flipoff2:

Are you paying for the swap?

Got to love TX :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by StinkBug
Rupturing a NO2 tank would be no more dangerous than rupturing a CO2 or Oxygen tank, not nesseccarily safe, but not a giant fireball either. Just a very fast powerful venting of gas.

hey buddy go rupture a tank full of pure O2 and light a match right near it. if i dont hear back from you i will assume that you are dead.

O2 and NOS are both explosive, the NOS aids in combustion by bonding with O2 molecules or something like that and makes them more apt to ignite more fully.

O2 isnt explosive... :rolleyes:

dont you know what the space shuttle's rockets run on? PURE LIQUID OXYGEN. gaseous O2 in a bottle would be no different, IMO. go try it, but dont tell anyo..... oh yeah thats right. you wont be around to tell anyone that i told you to do it :eek:

Originally posted by brector


How about a 350 in that toy :flipoff2:

Works for me....you should see their faces when my 400HP gets to the ground beside them at the stop light!!! Or even better when I sit there and roll the rear 35 Boggers until a cloud "appears"....look is priceless :D :beer: :eek:

Originally posted by MeenGreen63


hey buddy go rupture a tank full of pure O2 and light a match right near it. if i dont hear back from you i will assume that you are dead.

O2 and NOS are both explosive, the NOS aids in combustion by bonding with O2 molecules or something like that and makes them more apt to ignite more fully.

O2 isnt explosive... :rolleyes:

dont you know what the space shuttle's rockets run on? PURE LIQUID OXYGEN. gaseous O2 in a bottle would be no different, IMO. go try it, but dont tell anyo..... oh yeah thats right. you wont be around to tell anyone that i told you to do it :eek:

I got a better test for ya since your so educated on the subject. go out to your garage, or anyone you know with a flame cutter. turn on the oxygen only then light a match in front of the tip. NOTE: nothing happens, the gas will not light. its not flammable. if it was you wouldn't need the acetylene to burn.

now try this, take a rag and set it on the floor and light it on fire. notice that it burns slowly and with only small flames. now hold the torch near it (again only O2 on) and watch the fire grow. also note the flame still does not go to the torch, the added oxygen simply aids in the burning of the fuel, in this case a rag.

Seriously go try it, its perfectly safe. then after you do go take a chemistry class or a good welding class and educate yourself before you post things that are incorrect again.

Dallas

Originally posted by StinkBug


I got a better test for ya since your so educated on the subject. go out to your garage, or anyone you know with a flame cutter. turn on the oxygen only then light a match in front of the tip. NOTE: nothing happens, the gas will not light. its not flammable. if it was you wouldn't need the acetylene to burn.

now try this, take a rag and set it on the floor and light it on fire. notice that it burns slowly and with only small flames. now hold the torch near it (again only O2 on) and watch the fire grow. also note the flame still does not go to the torch, the added oxygen simply aids in the burning of the fuel, in this case a rag.

Seriously go try it, its perfectly safe. then after you do go take a chemistry class or a good welding class and educate yourself before you post things that are incorrect again.

Dallas

STINKBUG has hit the nail square on the head!! And the NEWBIE is once again reaching for the ketchup to cover that nasty taste of shoe leather & toe jamb!! :laughing::laughing: Mean ... you should really start checking your sources before you let Mt. St. Mouthy spew again.

Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
A blower and methanol is legal in california.......On a pre-smog
vehicle..........
--Sherpa
A blower is legal in CA in my '93 Mustang as well.

Nitrous is actually a potentially extremely volatile substance.

http://www.healthyhome.net/NOS2.htm

Originally posted by cbassett
Nitrous is actually a potentially extremely volatile substance.

http://www.healthyhome.net/NOS2.htm

Did you look in that picture to see if there were any Burn marks from that nitrous explosion? The tank ruptured and basically blew the car apart.

Nitrous is not an explosive, when nitrous reaches its boiling point at 575 degrees the molecules break up and the oxygen is released, thats where you get the extra power from in a NOS setup. Why do you think there is a Fuel Solenoid as well as a Nitrous solenoid? If you ran just nitrous youd fry your pistons because of the overly lean conditions.

Originally posted by MeenGreen63





O2 isnt explosive... :rolleyes:




Did you learn everything you know about Nitrous from Fast and the Furious?

Hey, that explosion was caused because he left his bottle heater on, his safety valve was defective and he didnt have a thermal safty switch. Nitrous is perfectly safe. what really pissed me off was the movie fast and the furious, if the blow off valve was working on that car all it would have done was flame up some more not jump in the air.

I need to find pictures of the honda license plate stuck in a garage door my took. The Nitrous was related in an explosion that toar up the rear end of the car pretty bad. it definatly is volitile. It can react with many molecules present in the air.

I will assume you did not watch the movie. The reason it blew was the bad guys shot the car, it caught fire and exploded. LOL

Nitrous is not safe if not installed properly. See here: http://www.healthyhome.net/NOS2.htm

http://www.healthyhome.net/pict544.jpg


Originally posted by TrailRunner
Hey, that explosion was caused because he left his bottle heater on, his safety valve was defective and he didnt have a thermal safty switch. Nitrous is perfectly safe. what really pissed me off was the movie fast and the furious, if the blow off valve was working on that car all it would have done was flame up some more not jump in the air.

im real sure NOS is legal if injected but not if inhaled:flipoff2:

Originally posted by GearMan
im real sure NOS is legal if injected but not if inhaled:flipoff2: Damn back to the bladder we go:D

Originally posted by MeenGreen63
O2 isnt explosive... :rolleyes:


Oxygen isn't flamable you tards!!!! Oxygen is a catalyst.

Originally posted by MeenGreen63
dont you know what the space shuttle's rockets run on? PURE LIQUID OXYGEN. gaseous O2 in a bottle would be no different, IMO. go try it, but dont tell anyo..... oh yeah thats right. you wont be around to tell anyone that i told you to do it :eek:

Uh - WRONG AGAIN. The space shuttle uses solid rocket fuel in the side towers and a mix of fuel in the main tank :rolleyes:

Originally posted by NE-RokToy
I need to find pictures of the honda license plate stuck in a garage door my took. The Nitrous was related in an explosion that toar up the rear end of the car pretty bad. it definatly is volitile. It can react with many molecules present in the air.
don't belive it, it's just nitrogen and two parts oxy., It IS under pressure and that can of corse be dangerous. Now it WILL cause a flame to REALLY get big, so did you have an open flame nearby?

still trying to figure out why people mess with the pressure relief, or wire the heater to a constant on electrical source, or even bother with heaters at all in a street car in the warm n sunny south
as for legal I think a Nitrous car will pass any sniffer test as it is only full throttle activated

reacts with air???
yeah i see the purge causing explosions all the time.
isnt nitrogen inert and n2o is only about mid 30% oxygen and that is the complete list of contents.
the most dangerous thing other then acceleration I did with my kit was have a buddy hold the line when i did the initial purge on bottle hook up, he lost some skin off his fingers to the instant freeze.

Thank you MJ. as far as fast and the furious goes, if it was real the car would not have jumped and caused green flames. if you heat a bottle of nitrous up the pressure is going to rise and the pressure safty valve will open letting all you nitrous out of the bottle. the explosion in FATF was just staged for effect. for that car int eh pictures he left his bottle heater on and the safety pressure valve was defective or he capped it off thinking it wasnt needed.

Originally posted by Cutter

don't belive it, it's just nitrogen and two parts oxy., It IS under pressure and that can of corse be dangerous. Now it WILL cause a flame to REALLY get big, so did you have an open flame nearby?

Actually its 2 parts Nitrogen and 1 part oxygen. Air in the atmosphere is 21% oxygen, while in N02 its 50% oxygen. Just thought id throw that out there.

i read 36% oxy about the same as nitro methane fuel
but that was just in the HP book nitrous oxide

Originally posted by StoopidMonkey
Did you look in that picture to see if there were any Burn marks from that nitrous explosion? The tank ruptured and basically blew the car apart.
Nitrous is not an explosive...

Did you see me say "explosive" (ie, firey explosion)? :rolleyes:

but you did say volatile substance when in fact any pressure vessel can pop and do that damage if the pressure exceeds the vessel strength. it isnt the contents volatility that caused that problem but possibly a mechanical failure and definately owner error

Yes I did, yes they can, this thread is about nitrous not "any contents", and this is a real thread. Not to discredit your claim about owner error.

the orginal thread was about is nitrous legal on the street? as far as nitrous being explosive or volitile is false. what about people on this board with C02 containers? if there truck catchs on fire with one of those bottles and the saftey was not working it too would pop. if nitrous was flammable or volitile i should be able to stick a lighter in the air and the whole world would catch on fire. As far as that car like i said it popped because the owner did not have a safety valve and he left his bottle heater on. no if ands or buts about it. i just want to now if a cop pulls me and searchs my truck and i have the bottle hooked up and open will i get a ticket or what?

It's your life dude, if you're non concerned about inherent dangers in your actions then put your name on the darwin-to-be list. You'd think people would be interested in all information about something they're considering doing, that could take their life. It doesn't much matter who was at fault in the Maxima explosion; the simple (are you following now??), simple fact is that this can happen.:rolleyes:

I just think you are skerd of the liquid super charger.

Originally posted by cbassett
It's your life dude, if you're non concerned about inherent dangers in your actions then put your name on the darwin-to-be list. You'd think people would be interested in all information about something they're considering doing, that could take their life. It doesn't much matter who was at fault in the Maxima explosion; the simple (are you following now??), simple fact is that this can happen.:rolleyes:

um dude your blowing these risks way out of proportion. just think about all the natural gas powered vehicles on the road. they have a comparitively huge tank full of pressurized FLAMMABLE gas. i dont see anyone freaking out about them. basically it comes down to common sense. if you mistreat a compressed gas cylinder you put yourself in danger, wether it be propane, acetylene, CO2, NO2 or argon.

Dallas

Originally posted by cbassett
It's your life dude, if you're non concerned about inherent dangers in your actions then put your name on the darwin-to-be list. You'd think people would be interested in all information about something they're considering doing, that could take their life. It doesn't much matter who was at fault in the Maxima explosion; the simple (are you following now??), simple fact is that this can happen.:rolleyes:


Your way of logic just convinced me to stop playing paintball. Screw being hit, Im scared my C02 tanks going to rupture.
Yes it can happen but we have a better change of being struck by lightning then our NOS tank exploding. Ill take my chances.

Just one horror story out of a hundreds of thousands causes this type of Paranoia, how sad.