ive seen a few xjs that have been mounted on frames in the sick ass xj post. it was just a few pics and was wondering if anyone new were to find a run down on how it was done. i remember reading a short description on here but nothing with details or pics. it seems like a good idea and fun project any info would be great.

most of what I've seen is just sleeving the uni with c-channel.

Why are you wanting to "put in a frame"?

most of what I've seen is just sleeving the uni with c-channel.

Why are you wanting to "put in a frame"?
i just read the article that’s on here about it. im not for sure going to do it it just seems like it would give stronger places to mount front and rear shocks and other things that’s kind of why im asking about it just to see if its really worth it and what i could get out of it that you cant do as well with the unibody.
i just want to look into it further and find out more about it is all.

i just read the article that’s on here about it. im not for sure going to do it it just seems like it would give stronger places to mount front and rear shocks and other things that’s kind of why im asking about it just to see if its really worth it and what i could get out of it that you cant do as well with the unibody.
i just want to look into it further and find out more about it is all.


your wanting to add a subframe just so you can relocate your shocks? :rolleyes: :shaking:

I can relate, my rear shocks bolts have pulled themselves out plenty of times. I built a simplt c shaped clamp with 1/4" and drilled a hole through the side and bolted the c-clamp to the unibody and welded 1 1/2" dom tube to the clamps and welded some custom mounts for the shocks. One thing I've heard good things about is the XJ unibody stiffiners you can buy. They would be great attachment points for rock sliders !

yeah lots of people have done subframes I will probably end up doing a chevy subframe on mine instead of boxing the frames that way all I gotta do is bolt the body to the frame or I may just build a ladder frame for it.
DIG IT
Do a search for subframe or boxing frame.

I built a complete subframe under mine, my 4 link rear hangs off of it, the reason? It prevent the twisting that unibodies have when flexing out,

GOD yes, before I stiffined up my unibody, tucking 35 boggers in the fenders would not let me open any of my doors or my rear hatch . That twisiting will also break factory welds and cause your junk to leak in the rain. I just ripped the carpet out and drilled holes in my floor and Herculined it.

Thanks for the advise it sounds like a good idea I was planning on doing a 3 or four link and was worried about body twist so thanks once again

I built a complete subframe under mine, my 4 link rear hangs off of it, the reason? It prevent the twisting that unibodies have when flexing out,
do you have any pics by chance so i can get a better idea of what you have done
my email is carson.gowdy@coors.com or you can post them here if you have any thanks.

Do a serach.

And dont do a chevy frame that is just hack.

(1HDXJ) how exactly did you stiffin up your unibody, also pics would be helpfull

Search on www.naxja.org for sleeving the frame rails in the modified tech forum. Use 4"x6" .25 wall rectangular tubing, cut it in half length-wise to create two 4"x3"x3" c-channel sections. Cut each c-channel section into three parts to follow the contours of the sub-frame. Plate it from behind the LCA mount to in front of the leaf spring hanger. You'll need a 5-foot section. When you're done with that you'll have the hang enough to figure out the rear or forward sections if you still want more punishment.

Havent got the pic's up yet but i simply bent up some 1/4" plate into a u shape drilled 5/8" holes through 2 sides and then drilled 5/8" holes through the side of the unibody and slid the bracket in place and bolted it up. Did that on each side in 4 places and welded 1.5" DOM tube for crossmembers. I also ran 1.5" DOM parallel to the unibody and tied the tube all together. works verry well !

I did some frame reinforcment with sleeving and a rear crossmember.
Not quite done, It will have attachements from the old leaf hangers to the new Crossmember, sleeved from bumper mount to crossmember.
Everything is still temp, mocked up and tack welded.
http://www.owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/temp/15.jpg
http://www.owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/temp/16.jpg
http://www.nmnetsys.net/jeep/P1010029.JPG

NAXJA IS FOR PUSSIES.

Atleast for pussies who can take a little sheit about their bird sheit welding!


:crybaby2:


hinkley

ive seen a few xjs that have been mounted on frames in the sick ass xj post. it was just a few pics and was wondering if anyone new were to find a run down on how it was done. i remember reading a short description on here but nothing with details or pics. it seems like a good idea and fun project any info would be great.


Remember the biggest part of subframing a XJ frame is to make sure and use lots of rossette welds. If you don't you aren't attaching the new metal to the existing frame with much stregth at all. It will be very weak in comparison to being rossette welded, alot! Other than that if you are doing frame reinforcement make sure to add a full cage to tie everything together. Once you start to reinforce the XJ unibody as much as a subframe type thing you need to keep going with the cage idea otherwise you can create some bigger stress points than you started with.

hinkley

BTW check out naxja you will find out lots of info on the unibody and how to mod to it.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708&highlight=%2Ainstalling%2A
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168280&page=1&pp=25

Has some good info.

Atleast for pussies who can take a little sheit about their bird sheit welding!


:crybaby2:


hinkley

Fucker throws a fit on NAXJA, then flees over here? WTF does he expect from PBB a nice soft reacharound and a tall frothy glass of breastmilk?

Its just a matter of time before he's gets run off of here, and goes over to JU, and in all his glory, shows off his Kitty diarrhea welds... :shaking:

whats wrong owl?

are you still upset that naxja called you on your photoshopped weld job?

dude, relax. come to grips with the fact you were caught, and that you KNOW those welds sucked, and that you KNOW that you sounded retarded for saying "rosette welds are not needed" and you KNOW you were gonna catch hell for putting a huge rectangular tube directly UNDER your frame rail to act as a "snag all"

Improvement in your fabrication abilities and designs comes from self-realization, and your ability to listen to critique and become involved in a dialogue with people who know more than you.

WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU.

your "anti-naxja" sig is a joke, how disappointing.

have fun posting your pics in hopes you'll find a forum that will worship you instead of pointing out your mistakes.

Photoshop weld grind was an obvious joke, but you guys belong to a Cherokee only club, so what did I expect. If you looked at the post, it was posted at 12:31am and said, I ran up there real quick and grinded the welds. Best welds youve ever seen. :: DUR ::.
Tag said welds arent done, Hinkley u fat fuck, I didnt flee over here, I was here long before I tried NAXJA, you newb.
Looks tons better now, two syllable words like "progress" are obviously too much for you clubbers
Beezil, you have always been helpful and I respect everything you say, and do with metal. No punchline.
I expect hashes of shit on PBB, its Pirate after all, but a ding dong short arm guy like Hinkley, and a bolt on queen telling me my "fab skills" suck is just plain funny.
oh and I have this .gif now: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
I have put the motor in, which most of the leet fabbers on NAXJA couldnt even handle, done the axle, trans, T Case and EFI swap, welded tons, and built my rig in 1995, before you had Forums and Polls about "Rough Country or Trailmaster, which is better".
Fuck NAXJA, fuck you Hinkley
I want my $20 back so I can buy some Truck Nutz :flipoff2:

BajaXJ, I understand you weld for a living, So I guess its no suprise you "upgrade" your Jeep from quadratech.com I didnt get run out of anywhere, You keep saying fab skills but how hard is it to stick rubber in your wheelwells with sheet screws, your a joke, I posted here to help, you posted here hoping to win some internet battle in which u sorely lost weeks ago. Dont you have a shopping cart to check out somwhere kid ?

and you KNOW you were gonna catch hell for putting a huge rectangular tube directly UNDER your frame rail to act as a "snag all".
My rear crossmember is 1" Higher than my Trans crossmember, WHOA :laughing: bet you didnt know that. It wont have ANYTHING hanging down from it. Should I have cut out the floor, removed the back seats and welded tabs to the tubed rollcage ?
Lets be honest Beezil, XJs arent exactly tube framed, rock crawling gods. I love what you have done with your Jeep. But it is in fact an easy way out. You have taken the Wagon out of the XJ and built mostly a tube chassi'd buggy. Keeping Leather, AC, 4 seats and a cargo area, still be able to do 70mph to MOAB, wheel with you and come home is HARD. chopping off everything and making it a trailered buggy is challenging, but not as hard as keeping the SUV in it. Yep malls AND helldorado.

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My rear crossmember is 1" Higher than my Trans crossmember, WHOA

Then it sounds like your trans crossmember is way to low.

Photoshop weld grind was an obvious joke, but you guys belong to a Cherokee only club, so what did I expect. If you looked at the post, it was posted at 12:31am and said, I ran up there real quick and grinded the welds. Best welds youve ever seen. :: DUR ::.
Tag said welds arent done, Hinkley u fat fuck, I didnt flee over here, I was here long before I tried NAXJA, you newb.
Looks tons better now, two syllable words like "progress" are obviously too much for you clubbers
Beezil, you have always been helpful and I respect everything you say, and do with metal. No punchline.
I expect hashes of shit on PBB, its Pirate after all, but a ding dong short arm guy like Hinkley, and a bolt on queen telling me my "fab skills" suck is just plain funny.
oh and I have this .gif now: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
I have put the motor in, which most of the leet fabbers on NAXJA couldnt even handle, done the axle, trans, T Case and EFI swap, welded tons, and built my rig in 1995, before you had Forums and Polls about "Rough Country or Trailmaster, which is better".
Fuck NAXJA, fuck you Hinkley
I want my $20 back so I can buy some Truck Nutz :flipoff2:


Gee and I wonder why you get so much crap. You attitude sucks. Just like I said before you caught crap for your attitude not your fabbing. I'm sure with an attitude like yours ou have lots of freinds. You don't know from adam and you want to call me names because I question the fact you stated rossette welds were crap. You don't have a fucking clue. Someday you might grow up and realize until your attitude is what gets you all the greif. So simmer down and quite acting like an ass.

If you can't calm the hell down you might want to come back and post up you want your money back, I'm sure there are enough guys to pitch in .02 cents each to make up your 30.00 membership fee. Sorry just looked you aren't a member!

hinkley


BTW if you really think I'm a newb at this stuff you really don't have a clue.

Maybe when I grow up Ill lurn tu spel like Hinkley.
I dont know you or want to know you, But youre a shit talking elitist.Im not going to hash this out again with someone of your calibur, but take a look here ding dong: http://www.owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/welds.jpg
Where else should I attach it? since its attached top, bottom, middle underneath etc. its seven pieces per side.
My attitude sucks yea, when "know-it-alls" ring in who didnt bother to read all the posts and jumped to the end to huff and huff about how big their balls are on the internet.
I wish I had spent my money for a membership here instead of NAXJA IS FOR PUSSIES.

Slapping steel on a Jeep will not necessarily make it stronger, just heavier. How much strength do you think you gained by adding more sheetmetal and boogered welding wire?

-Jon

Maybe when I grow up Ill lurn tu spel like Hinkley.

Good one, never heard that before. But I can weld. (Just because you're still be a dick)

I dont know you or want to know you, But youre a shit talking elitist.Im not going to hash this out again with someone of your calibur,

It has only to do with your attitude. Before you go a spout off something like "Rosette welds are crap" you might want to think about how stupid that makes you look. If you don't have the knowledge to spout the crap then STFU! You might learn something.



but take a look here ding dong:
Where else should I attach it? since its attached top, bottom, middle underneath etc. its seven pieces per side.

You can weld it all the way around but your not going to gain all that much strength. Your sheer is attached just on the edges where it WILL tear first. The Rosette welds spread you sheer from the two materials, the frame and the added plate. Thus giving more strength. I asked you a question at the beginning, but you want to be too stupid to realize what I was trying to get you to do, and that was think! You've attached all that nice thick material right where the this ass unibody is going to be it's weakest, the edges. If you attach the two together over the surface area the strength gain will be much greater.

So you can keep your attitude up or you can realize we were trying to help even with your stupid attitude. If you think you can be an ass like you were in the now deleted thread and not get some crap for it, WAKE UP!

I'm the farthest thing from an elitist you'll ever see. I just call crap, crap and you have a crap attitude! So drop the ego and realize you have more to learn than just welding techniques, how to take criticism thru internet crap.



My attitude sucks yea, when "know-it-alls" ring in who didnt bother to read all the posts and jumped to the end to huff and huff about how big their balls are on the internet.
I wish I had spent my money for a membership here instead of NAXJA IS FOR PUSSIES.

BTW when I did spell check for my shit ass spelling you have about 5 or 6 errors yourself. (not counting you attempt at humor) Again saying shit without knowledge! :(

I would suggest if you want to get civil you might want to knock of the NAXJA is for pussy crap, make you look even worst!

hinkley

Slapping steel on a Jeep will not necessarily make it stronger, just heavier. How much strength do you think you gained by adding more sheetmetal and boogered welding wire?
sheetmetal :shaking:
Ask BajaXJ about sheetmetal, Hes a pro with it. Thats 1/8" and 3/16" mild steel.


you still dont get Hinkley, all those pieces penetrate the steel and the unibody.
Your sheer is attached just on the edges where it WILL tear first Are you blind? Or do you have images turned off?
I never said plug welds are crap, I said they are useless. They are useless in this case because I HAVE plug welds. up down left right inside outside etc. drilling a hole 4 inches away in any direction of the already penetrated welds does what for me? And speaking of attitude.. this is the reason I hate your fuckin guts. everything out of your mouth sounds like my bully 10yr old cousin.. stupid this and your an idiot that..
LOOK AT IT!!!!!! pieces are penetrated every few inches.. not just outside.. not just underneath..
And for the spelling, maybe I should have worded it as grammar, after all,you had to use a spell checker on my post hrhrhrhr :grinpimp:

you still dont get Hinkley, all those pieces penetrate the steel and the unibody.
Are you blind? Or do you have images turned off?
I never said plug welds are crap, I said they are useless. They are useless in this case because I HAVE plug welds. up down left right inside outside etc. drilling a hole 4 inches away in any direction of the already penetrated welds does what for me? And speaking of attitude.. this is the reason I hate your fuckin guts. everything out of your mouth sounds like my bully 10yr old cousin.. stupid this and your an idiot that..
LOOK AT IT!!!!!! pieces are penetrated every few inches.. not just outside.. not just underneath..
And for the spelling, maybe I should have worded it as grammar, after all,you had to use a spell checker on my post hrhrhrhr :grinpimp:

I must be blind, your right. I now see all those rosette welds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT!

Like I said you don't have a clue! Go have fun!

hinkley

I wish I had spent my money for a membership here instead of NAXJA IS FOR PUSSIES.

I think the rest of us NAXJA members do too. I thought there was a no :crybaby: rule on Pirate. I guess only a newbie would expect sympathy here. Go back to JU where they worship you and your :rainbow: attitude.

:flipoff2:

Bryan

sheetmetal :shaking:
Ask BajaXJ about sheetmetal, Hes a pro with it. Thats 1/8" and 3/16" mild steel.


I was referring to the shape of the steel, not the guage. Form, not mass, is what provides strength. Your welds are certainly not helping matters either.

-Jon


Edit: My wife's looking over my shoulder, and says "I can weld better than that Cracker!"

Post up your in progress pics. Maybe throw your "grinding" pic in and see if you get sympathy here. You got all upset and ran away crying because people gave you honest critisism and were trying to help you build a better jeep. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_9_7.gif I don't understand why you post up on pirate if you can't take critisism from NAXJA. :confused:
Check out ashmanjeepxj's sleeving. He did it right. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139642&page=2

An honest critiscm on a post that said: progress pics, welds are just tacked.
I can handle that, some fat fuck beer jockey with a rustys short arm kit on his dana35 and an aol connection, I wont accept.
I da hoe XJ I couldnt give a shit about iur sympathy.Im certainly not the one who tried to instigate anything on this board.
and this following comment should explain my reason for thinking naxja is for the pride community:
Unlike JU and PBB, naxja is a club, not a forum. the dues you pay are to be a member of a club.
If my golf club dues came with with assfucks with big ball syndrome comments.; We would have some police on the premisis.
When fuck up posters, with opinions about my "progress posts", show pics of their Spare tire carrier and "its a jeep thing sticker, start telling me what Im doing wrong and what they would do different, I get a little upset.
If you have pics, post them. I will be more than happy to rip you a new asshole. Cuz unless you have invented a machine for perpetual motion, I will find a fault, and I will beat it to death. Just like the sub 100IQ doorbells did on that particular post.
Roll up. Show em' and prove your better.
Bryan C calling me a Newb is just about the funniest quote on this post.
NEWB, DAN (dumb ass newb), JU user etc is reserved for the little dick crowd.
Edit: My wife's looking over my shoulder, and says "I can weld better than that Cracker!" OK nig nog, roll up with your pics.
Post anything you have welded, or built Id love to see your Jeep. Show me how much better your wife thinks you are.
This is the forum where you can boast about how bad ass you are, and I can call you a fuckin NEWB.
If im going to spend money to post on a forum, Its not going to be on NAXJA. you dont like it? I dont care.

I like that idea for the crossmember that ties in the (I guess you call them spring hangers?) I just got some dom tube and get it bent so the driveshaft wouldnt hit. I 1/4" diamond plated my hangers and used the 1.5" tube to tie into my front long arm mounts so the lockers wouldnt crunch it like a beer can ! :laughing:

!HDXJ
almost exactly what Im trying to do, except it will be more like mini traction bars.
just a brace to tie the front, to the rear crossmeber, to the strongest point on the rear of the unibody.

wow that i da hoe joke was funny when I was ten. :rolleyes: In the course of that thread you said rosette welds were usless, which anyone here will disagree with. You said you were going to run bolts through the framerails instead. You were told that was a bad idea so you got all defensive. I weld with a stick welder and all my welds are 100x better than the buggers you sneezed all over your frame rails. :flipoff2:

then post em.
show me your welds or show me your bolt ons.
Id love to see these bad ass welds of yours.
U nutsacks still dont get the "progress pics" " welds are just tacked" part.
Ill say it again, show me your welded Jeep.
Then comment underneath about what stage its in so I can ignore it and bag on you.
please

Look in my sig. Theres not a lot of pics, just a few after my build up. But I'm not ashamed of them and I didn't need to grind any of them, and I don't need to write "progress pic" by them so I feel protected from critisism. There arent really any bolt ons so you might be disapointed. :flipoff2:

killer axles, awesome low steer arms.
You fuckin newb, I would have done it right instead of wasting my time on a shitty Jeep like that.
I love how your stock type cast radius arms hang down below the frame. Did I would have done it differently
Its total junk and you need to learn how to build Jeeps before you post pics.
My Jeep is so much better








Sound familiar?
Now get pissed like I did.
I started the progress pics post.
I wanted feedback, yes. I wanted to show people what Im doing. I didnt want some jackoff posting about how better they are, and how they would have done it different. Have you ever called the chef out of the kitchen and told him the fish was good but I would do it like this...

I have that entire post saved, so if you need a quote off it, let me know

the grinding pic is a joke, it was a photoshopped (badly ) pic of welds .
Even if the welds were done by arlen Ness, I would grind them. Its what I am going for under there.
If you have something to say thats critical, cool. If youre going to tell me how you would do it differently, then show me, dont brag about the porsche youre GOING to buy

Bryan C calling me a Newb is just about the funniest quote on this post.

Hmmm. Lets see, your join date looks very close to my join date. Sorry if I don't post here often, but at least I put out the $20 to join here too. Better to be thought of as an idiot while sitting quietly, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt, like you have. Keep whining Mr Owl, we are all getting a good laugh out of it. You are the whiney little bitch who can't take criticism, don't deflect that hostlity towards us. If you can weld, why don't you show us some finished pics instead of just defending your "progress, tack welded pics." I have nothing to prove and never commented on your welding(or lack thereof) skills. I only commented on your piss poor attitude about taking some advice from guys who have already built and wheeled their rigs.

Grow up and grow some thicker skin.

Bryan

Oh yeah, :flipoff2:

I think the rest of us NAXJA members do too. I thought there was a no rule on Pirate. I guess only a newbie would expect sympathy here. Go back to JU where they worship you and your attitude.
So it s $20 thing is it?
U fuckin nutsacks from the pussy board keep posting here, but when I look back you havent contributed to this thread at all. Which was my intention.
If you dont like my sig, then come kick my ass.
I dont like the political sig's, I dont like the toy guys bagging on Jeep sigs. But I dont comment on them. I dont like NAXJA, I dont like the philosphy that a few of you have taken on it.
If you still have the thread saved, review it.
I have been bagged on, I have been ridiculed, It doesnt bother me. Its assholes with opinions about what they "would" do, and people using stupid and idiot in every post they make (search hinkley, bajaxj and tell me im wrong)
Im not going to argue this pont with a clubber like yourself. Paste your NAXJA sticker high on your Jeep. You are top dog. I wish I could afford $20, but all my money went to Adobe, and Poly Perf.

Signatures are for pussies.

You just need to calm down. Nobody said you had a small penis, just offering some helpful hints. Even if they weren't all sugary sweet, they meant well.

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/1203/arguing4.gif
http://img83.exs.cx/img83/7197/gay3.gif

Signatures are for pussies.

NO SHIT! Fuck Signatures!

OWL, tell us the truth..

You are xjguy who moved from NY to AZ. Huh?

Your story has changed so much it's not even funny. I'm sure your paranoid little mind did save a copy of that thread. You going to show it to the principle and get us all in trouble?

So if they are just "tack welds" why the fuck do they go the whole way of the edges of the material. OH OH I got it for you "They are real long tacks!"

So if you have 35 grand into your jeep why can't you help the guys out here with 20.00 to cover their costs for you posting here. You just like being a leach everyplace you go?

hinkley

Mark Im sorry you lost your business, It unfortunate. Looking at the way you type, your meandering insults, lack of grammar and spelling skills is too fuckin funny.
My paranoid little mind....
WTF are you still posting here for ?
Youre like a little nat, at a nice picnic.. shoo
If I give you $20 will you go away? Im sure you need it about now.
And I dont even live in AZ

Oh and tell your Club President to forward the $20 I gave him to PBB.
He can have his fuckin sticker back. And that Killer Newletter thing is under the cage already.

Mark Im sorry you lost your business, It unfortunate. Looking at the way you type, your meandering insults, lack of grammar and spelling skills is too fuckin funny.
My paranoid little mind....
WTF are you still posting here for ?
Youre like a little nat, at a nice picnic.. shoo
If I give you $20 will you go away? Im sure you need it about now.
And I dont even live in AZ

What a moron.
You go about whining about his lack of grammar and spelling, then can't even spell a simple 4 letter word. GNAT.
Sheesh...
Grow up and educate yourself.

....
Sound familiar?
Now get pissed like I did.
....


:laughing: Anybody else find this hilarious? :laughing:

...If you can weld, why don't you show us some finished pics instead of just defending your "progress, tack welded pics." ...
Bryan

Oh yeah, :flipoff2:


Sounds like he's "calling the chef out of the kitchen"!

Mark Im sorry you lost your business, It unfortunate. Looking at the way you type, your meandering insults, lack of grammar and spelling skills is too fuckin funny.
My paranoid little mind....
WTF are you still posting here for ?
Youre like a little nat, at a nice picnic.. shoo
If I give you $20 will you go away? Im sure you need it about now.
And I dont even live in AZ

Lost my business???????????????????

What the fuck you talking about Willis????????????????

My insults?????????????????????? How about your open threats on open forums?????????????????????????

I know you don't live in AZ, you live in Albuquerque, NM. You just register that $35K XJ in AZ to avoid the fact you can't register it in NM. What can't get it smogged?

You don't even realize the fucking fee from NAXJA is $30.00 not $20.00. BTW when were you ever a member?

Also, do you know how to use " 's " ????????


hinkley

Ill be glad to show you some finished pics, when its finished..
thanks for the insight there billy.
bring the rest of the NAXJA guys over here..
This is fun..
Oh and thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake.
I will work on growing up and educating myself.
Any schools you suggest?

:laughing: Anybody else find this hilarious? :laughing:

Yup. Good way to waste a half hour.....

When was I member on NAXJA?
I guess technically I still am.
#757
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''sssssssssssssssssssss ssssss
there I used some.
Yea open threats is right, it still stands too.
I guess selling ACOS' and rubi kits is tough business. :(
$30 $20 I dunno, I dont care anymore. Thanks for pointing out that I spent more than I thought I did.
And no it wont smog. And I built it in college, AZ has a 40 year license, Cant think of any reason to try and get it registered here.

:laughing: Anybody else find this hilarious? :laughing:

:laughing:

It's like I stepped into a daycare with 15 little 4 year old girls arguing about how to cut a dolls hair. :rolleyes:

But keep em coming, I realize the more posts I have on this thread, the more it pisses you NAXJA guys off.
Im loving it..

But keep em coming, I realize the more posts I have on this thread, the more it pisses you NAXJA guys off.
Im loving it..


See, no clue at all!

You're the running joke of the month!

This is total entertainment watching you freak!


hinkley

you forgot your comma.

But keep em coming, I realize the more posts I have on this thread, the more it pisses you NAXJA guys off.
Im loving it..

Yeah, post count is where it's at.... :shaking:

This thread is the running joke of the month!




Fixed that for ya.

Yeah, post count is where it's at.... :shaking:

Yea, he's big on post counts and on the size of his "TACK WELDS"!

hinkley

Fixed that for ya.


Thanks! :confused:

hinkley

Ill be glad to show you some finished pics, when its finished..
thanks for the insight there billy.

So, are you saying that you don't have any finished welds on your rig that you did? I don't think it has to be on this project.

When was I member on NAXJA?
I guess technically I still am.
#757



Nope, you resigned!

:D


hinkley

Good enough. So now youll quit asking when I was a member?
Post count is important right now.
Im trying to help Marky Mark get away from the single digit posts..
Doing pretty good so far.
Now he can say 75% of his posts on PBB were about arguing.
http://owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/done.jpg
theres some finished welds.. Will you let me back in now?

Good enough. So now youll quit asking when I was a member?
Post count is important right now.
Im trying to help Marky Mark get away from the single digit posts..
Doing pretty good so far.
Now he can say 75% of his posts on PBB were about arguing.
http://owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/done.jpg
theres some finished welds.. Will you let me back in now?

whats the caster measurement on that thing? and aren't you a tad worried that the weld is on the inner c and could shear?

Caster is way off at this point..
I need more positive caster, not sure how im going to get that yet.
Vehicle isnt being driven yet.
Those brackets have a good bite on them.
Looks beafy. It is the best choice for location considering the width of the axle, the height of my hoops (limited by MC and Air intake) and the size of my shocks (14")
We had them mounted on the C itself and it was way too tall.
Im 6-1" and couldnt see over the hood.

Good enough. So now youll quit asking when I was a member?

http://owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/done.jpg



Well, I see your buddy at the tube shop welds nicely! :D

But, I do think that track bar is going to break the first time out! :D

hinkley

I stole someone chainlink fence post for that awesome trackbar
22 gauge baby. DOnt mess around.
And those are my welds.

I stole someone chainlink fence post for that awesome trackbar
22 gauge baby. DOnt mess around.
And those are my welds.


I call bullshit!

That ain't fence poll, looks like .120 wall Hew, but then I'm blind!


hinkley

you got me.
Its actually .083 DOM 1.5 wall. with crushed ends to fit in my brackets.
It should have great misalignment properties when flexing.
Will be much stronger as soon as I get it chromed

I have been bagged on, I have been ridiculed, It doesnt bother me.

Obviously.
This is an XJGUY-quality meltdown, and I am enjoying watching you go down in flames.
Have a nice day, feeling the breath of a 400 lbs. Armenian on the back of your neck.
Asspipe.
:flipoff2:

Obviously.
This is an XJGUY-quality meltdown, and I am enjoying watching you go down in flames.
Have a nice day, feeling the breath of a 400 lbs. Armenian on the back of your neck.
Asspipe.
:flipoff2:


LOL

Classic BC!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

hinkley

I can't believe I'm actually going to contribute to this thread, but since I was one of the poster's on your origonal xj thread I guess I'll post up :flipoff2:

You asked for welding pics, so here you go:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175733&highlight=scrambler+re-build

None of the welds were finished (ground down or cleaned up) and yes there are 6 plug (or rosette) welds per side of joint, 12 total per joint and 96 total in the entire frame along with multiple triangular braces and two 1/4in shear plates......so go ahead, tear me a new one :flipoff2:

Oh, and these are just progress pics as its not finished yet...much like yours :p

Justin

killer axles, awesome low steer arms.
You fuckin newb, I would have done it right instead of wasting my time on a shitty Jeep like that.
I love how your stock type cast radius arms hang down below the frame. Did I would have done it differently
Its total junk and you need to learn how to build Jeeps before you post pics.
My Jeep is so much better

Sound familiar?
Now get pissed like I did.
I started the progress pics post.
I wanted feedback, yes. I wanted to show people what Im doing. I didnt want some jackoff posting about how better they are, and how they would have done it different. Have you ever called the chef out of the kitchen and told him the fish was good but I would do it like this...

I have that entire post saved, so if you need a quote off it, let me know

:laughing: Your arms hang below the frame rail too. I'm running the same axle too.
I was going to tell you I liked your setup but you had to go and be an ass. :flipoff2:

I didn't read the whole thread,so not sure if an honest answer is relevant.I did the opposite of an "sub-frame".I made my cage the stressed member and tied my link suspension directly to the cage.The energy/load passed through the sheetmetal and was taken by the cage.In the end the remaining sheetmetal was purely cosmetic,it was basicaly a buggy built inside a vehicle.Withstood alot of hard rolls and HARD wheeling until it was finally dismantled with a gas axe and much malice.

I didn't read the whole thread,so not sure if an honest answer is relevant.I did the opposite of an "sub-frame".I made my cage the stressed member and tied my link suspension directly to the cage.The energy/load passed through the sheetmetal and was taken by the cage.In the end the remaining sheetmetal was purely cosmetic,it was basicaly a buggy built inside a vehicle.Withstood alot of hard rolls and HARD wheeling until it was finally dismantled with a gas axe and much malice.


It did get to this over on the other forum, but he told us we were all wacked for thinking his shit wasn't the best, oh we weren't on JU, that is why it was all fucked up!

:barf:

hinkley

BTW, I bet yours turned out great doing it that way!

feeling the breath of a 400 lbs. Armenian on the back of your neck.
So youre a fat fuck also I take it?
got a green card?
Your arms hang below the frame rail too.
Yea, and yea. I was being an ass and you responded about how I thought you would.

Dixie nice progress. Seeing as you pointed out it is "progress".
I cant see shit in the pics but Ill take your word for it that its not ground or cleaned up.

Bring the rest of the rainbow NAXJA crew over here and we'll continue this so-called flaming.
Im having fun with it.. I think its funny you guys are all worked up about your Pride Badges.
Its funny as hell that I can stir you up this good.
Hell most of you are more pissed and devoting more energy to this thread then I did on the original.
hrhrhrhr
Hello Kettle, This is Pot, You're BLACK!!!!!!!

I cant see shit in the pics but Ill take your word for it that its not ground or cleaned up.

What you fucking blind?




Bring the rest of the rainbow NAXJA crew over here and we'll continue this so-called flaming.
Im having fun with it.. I think its funny you guys are all worked up about your Pride Badges.
Its funny as hell that I can stir you up this good.
Hell most of you are more pissed and devoting more energy to this thread then I did on the original.
hrhrhrhr

Come on and tell us the truth, you have xjguy on the phone feeding you all this "twist everything around shit so you look like a victim", don't you?

That was effort you were putting out? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hinkley

Who still types LOL?
XJGUY hmm. Im sure this nickname is funny to you and a few others, but it doesnt mean anything to me.
Marky Mark seems to be the most upset.. I think its because I poked fun at his weight, business, english skills, and Jeep. Yea I guess that would piss me off too.
Edit your msg so it has an inuslt please.. This post was no fun.

Who still types LOL?
XJGUY hmm. Im sure this nickname is funny to you and a few others, but it doesnt mean anything to me.
Marky Mark seems to be the most upset.. I think its because I poked fun at his weight, business, english skills, and Jeep. Yea I guess that would piss me off too.
Edit your msg so it has an inuslt please.. This post was no fun.


Do you go thru life so pissed at everyone you think you piss them off?

I'm here to see what stupid ass thing you're going to do next. First "rosette welds suck", "NAXJA is for pussies", NEXT????????

Let's see first you use Beezil's name for me. Are you living in Beezil's pants?What's with that?

-If you think I'm fat, YOU"RE FUCKING BLIND!
-You don't have a clue about my business, so why would that piss me off. Like your BS is going to be taken seriously!
-My grammar suck, who the fuck care except for asses who have nothing better to shit on.
-Right my jeep does suck, won't climb over those mall bumpstops! :crybaby2:

hinkley

OK nig nog, roll up with your pics.
Post anything you have welded, or built Id love to see your Jeep. Show me how much better your wife thinks you are.
This is the forum where you can boast about how bad ass you are, and I can call you a fuckin NEWB.
If im going to spend money to post on a forum, Its not going to be on NAXJA. you dont like it? I dont care.


As long as you are proving your ignorance, you may as well add a little racism too...

Here's my wife's work. Notice how much better built it is than yours.
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/album108/100_0001_IMG_3.sized.jpg

And here's mine:
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/Four-Link/Droopin.sized.jpg
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/Four-Link/Cliffhanger.sized.jpg

Fire away Junior.


-Jon

Nice XJ, you have any pics up closer......................just saying it before The Owl does

Here's my wife's work. Notice how much better built it is than yours.
http://www.crawltech.com/albums/album108/100_0001_IMG_3.sized.jpg

-Jon

That's pretty cool, your wife does nice work. :smokin:

Edit: My wife's looking over my shoulder, and says "I can weld better than that Cracker!"

How much strength do you think you gained by adding more sheetmetal and boogered welding wire?

As long as you are proving your ignorance, you may as well add a little racism too...

Oh and dont forget this one:
I was referring to the shape of the steel, not the guage. Form, not mass, is what provides strength

Hello Kettle, This is Pot, You're BLACK!!!!!!!
EDIT: Are those earrings your wife has welded? whats with all the far off pics?


OOOOOO BURN!!

Marky Mark:
Keep it coming, pretty soon you can lose that newbie tag
77 more posts to go.
I bet you can do that on this thread...

post counts are for pussies

I'm a little late in this thread... but hey THE_OWL... what sort of trim are you running on those chopped fenders? I've been meaning to get around to doing that shit for months now. If you wouldn't mind, where did you buy it from? It looks really good.

I'm a little late in this thread... but hey THE_OWL... what sort of trim are you running on those chopped fenders? I've been meaning to get around to doing that shit for months now. If you wouldn't mind, where did you buy it from? It looks really good.
Now thats funny. I thought we had another bandwagon bagger. :D
Its ghetto trim from AutoZone, same as the chrome stuff on lowriders, but black
7$ for 36" i believe.

That's pretty cool, your wife does nice work. :smokin:
She says thanks.

Nice XJ, you have any pics up closer......................just saying it before The Owl does
Our feathered friend has the market on the hardcore driveway pics. I'd hate to rattle his cage. :)


-Jon

I take it you cant show any close ups?

Yea its in the driveway. Cant really say anything about that.
Its a work in progress.
Tell your wife this Cracker likes her earrings or whatever that thing is.. Looks like it fits nice.

The legs are 1/2" rebar if you need something for size reference. She'd make you one for a fair rice if you want something welded correctly for your rig.


We take Paypal.

-Jon

OK Otis since you dont want to show us, Ill show us.
Heres your beauty welds.. Looks fairy nice
And one question is that bracket really welded to the floow of the Unibody?
Oh man Im glad paypal offers a money back deal.
Thats some fucked up shit there.
And since you are ignoring the racist comment you made yeaterday, Ill point it out again. Cracker.
http://owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/beauty.jpg
http://owlie.omgwtfpwnage.com/welded.jpg

Hinkley, you fat fawk :flipoff2:

:shaking:

Good lord, what a fucked up thread. Your ass, Owl, needs to be a member of the band just on principle.

1) The whole drawback to long arms/radius arms is how far they stick down below the body. You took that drawback to a new level with how far that crossmember falls.

2) Your radius arms are good for one run before they tweak. That angle is just hosed.

I have built my rig myself (with a little help from URF on the cage). I cannot tell you how much scrap steel is laying around from good ideas gone wrong. If you want to take your current iteration on the trail, go ahead. A bunch of folks here have tried to give you constructive advice, but you choose to be a dick. When you shiat breaks on the trail an no one wants to strap your ass back to the hiway, think about how your attitude has failed to "win friends and influence people"

SeanP

Now thats funny. I thought we had another bandwagon bagger. :D
Its ghetto trim from AutoZone, same as the chrome stuff on lowriders, but black
7$ for 36" i believe.



Maybe I'll get the chrome for that gangsta look :flipoff2:


I'll check out Autozone and see what they've got in stock. It will make my awful chop look like someone more competent than a retarded monkey was responsible for it. :p

And one question is that bracket really welded to the floow of the Unibody?


Yup. And to the subframe. I overbuild, cause I can't weld for shit (but still better than you). :flipoff2:

And since you are ignoring the racist comment you made yeaterday, Ill point it out again. Cracker.

Uhhh.... I'm white too, Cracker Ass Cracker. It's just the internet. Not real life.


-Jon

OK, Mr OWL. Since you have spent more time defending yourself instead of finishing your Jeep and posting pictures. I just thought I would maybe have you discuss some of the finer points of your front axle/suspension pic. I noted 1 or 2 points of interest that I would kindly ask you to discuss.

http://www.mrskull.com/bayarea4x4/Fixedit.jpg

I wish I could take credit for this pic, but the real artist shall remain nameless.

OK, Mr OWL. Since you have spent more time defending yourself instead of finishing your Jeep and posting pictures. I just thought I would maybe have you discuss some of the finer points of your front axle/suspension pic. I noted 1 or 2 points of interest that I would kindly ask you to discuss.
Hey man, all that is getting replaced with titanium and carbon fiber.
Im waiting on my order from rusty's

And otis, if your going to make racial comments, then dont be upset when someone else does. And if your going to weld suspension points to the floor of your unibody, dont bag on some boogered filler welds. That is truly funny.
Good lord I just realized that link is sleeved and has a Heim Joint that belongs on one of my sandrails.
Is that a 1/2" heim there?

And Sean Im not sure what angles/crossmember your talking about, but my pic of my rear crossmember isnt that low at all.
And my front one drops 1.5" below the frame for one reason. And you would know this reason if you have done the Drivetrain swap I have.
Then engine wont sump. I could:
A) Raise the motor
Cant do that cuz I have approx 1/2" clearance between air assembly and hood now
B) Make a new Adaptor for the trans to tcase piece.
C) Drop the crossmember.
My radius arms are made of SOLID stock 1.5"
My Heims are 1-1/4".
My cross is 1/4" 2x4

Scraping along a rock on those pieces isnt a worry for me.

...And if your going to weld suspension points to the floor of your unibody, dont bag on some boogered filler welds....

Unless Jon's pics are photoshopped too, I believe he's done some testing on his rig...

DELETE THIS POST:NAXJA vs Pirate Cherokee pissing match of newbies...

Theres that word again: newbie, I love it.

Heres a little test drive I did.
Its a pic of my Jeep in front of a Bar in Kenai Alaska. 1996. I drove there from flagstaff. And Spent many weeks exploring the Yukon.
With the V8 swap, some crappy short arm suspension and 33" tires.
The whole driveway/garage bagging is lame.
http://www.jokerspub.com/myjeepisbetterthanyours.jpg
Dont you have some pictures of XJs to steal off the internet somewhere?
SeanP: A bunch of folks here have tried to give you constructive advice, but
mmmm. Im searching this post, not seeing ANY advice, could you copy paste the advice for me?
I didnt start this thread, I posted some helpful advice on Page1.
the rest of the posts are from the Rainbow Club posting insults and me defending them.

here's some advice: move that exhaust up a little. :flipoff2:

So you drove it in 1996. How is that relevant to anything?

o_0
How is any of this relevant ?

DELETE THIS POST:NAXJA vs Pirate Cherokee pissing match of newbies...

Delete it? It's just getting good!

o_0
How is any of this relevant ?

Relevent to what?

This?
How about a big FUCK YOU
and Hinkley, you fat fuck. your shit is Junk ass, your skills are Junk ass,
I may be Blinded by Anger, but youll be blinded with blood in your eye if I ever run into to you.
Hvae a fairy Nice Day and consider this my Resignation to your Fucked up Club.

Physical threats for someone bagging on your fab skills?

I thought some of the fab work you did was pretty cool. I have always wanted a V8 in my XJ too. I was even a little jealous. Like I said before, nobody was questioning your manhood, just your decisions about how you were reinforcing your frame.

It's too late for anyone to back down now. Calm the fawk down and just let this thread die.

Bryan

Oh yeah :flipoff2:

DELETE THIS POST:NAXJA vs Pirate Cherokee pissing match of newbies...


This has nothing to do with NAXJA vs PBB! Not at all, never would be involved in anything like that!

If there is a concern of this looking that way, please have a mod PM me to talk.

Thanks

hinkley

I just want to be able to say that I posted in this thread. Carry on...

Hey OWL (maybe you should change your name to Bowel because of the shit you're spewing) you're calling me a pussy because I'm a NAXJA member-"NAXJA is for pussies"-FUCK YOU! Just because you are pissed at a few individuals does not mean you have to call all of us pussies.I for one never commented on your welds or fabbing skills,if your welds hold your junk together more power to ya I could care less.You are truly a cousin'-humpin pickle-kisser.
Jeff

Waaawaaaawaaaa.

Owlie quit crying.

Theres that word again: newbie, I love it.

Heres a little test drive I did.
Its a pic of my Jeep in front of a Bar in Kenai Alaska. 1996. I drove there from flagstaff. And Spent many weeks exploring the Yukon.
With the V8 swap, some crappy short arm suspension and 33" tires.
The whole driveway/garage bagging is lame.
http://www.jokerspub.com/myjeepisbetterthanyours.jpg
Dont you have some pictures of XJs to steal off the internet somewhere?

mmmm. Im searching this post, not seeing ANY advice, could you copy paste the advice for me?
I didnt start this thread, I posted some helpful advice on Page1.
the rest of the posts are from the Rainbow Club posting insults and me defending them.


Funny that you are parked in front of the Rainbow Bar. :rainbow: :rainbow:

Funny that you are parked in front of the Rainbow Bar. :rainbow: :rainbow:

Seems correct to me, based on what I have seen of the posts.

This has nothing to do with NAXJA vs PBB! Not at all, never would be involved in anything like that!

If there is a concern of this looking that way, please have a mod PM me to talk.

Thanks

hinkley

Like anybody wants to talk to your noob ass.
:smokin:

dear webmaster, please update the "A" record of this host to: naxja.pirate4x4.com
thanks
Im glad someone caught the Rainbows End in the back. It took me a while to find that pic..
I think this thread has upped the hits on this site..
Pickle humping cousin fucker. Thats cool.
Naxja is for pussies, This thread proves that more than anything.
post counts are for pussies
sigs are for pussies.
These are the best insults you guys can come up with?
NAXJA send out the reserves!!!!!
Im gonna go take a king Sized NAXJA dump, Ill post in 20 minutes, should give you kids time to come with something better than "quit crying"
If you think Im going to back down to these posts, then u bumped your fuckin head.
Ill keep posting here till they delete or all you Rainbow clubbers go back to the fan boy site.

Nothing like getting caught at a Gay bar to bring out the feistyness in a "guy".

You Go Girl!!!

(EDIT: waited the 20 minutes you stated. I see no new post here?)
dear webmaster, please update the "A" record of this host to: naxja.pirate4x4.com
thanks
Im glad someone caught the Rainbows End in the back. It took me a while to find that pic..
I think this thread has upped the hits on this site..
Pickle humping cousin fucker. Thats cool.
Naxja is for pussies, This thread proves that more than anything.
post counts are for pussies
sigs are for pussies.
These are the best insults you guys can come up with?
NAXJA send out the reserves!!!!!
Im gonna go take a king Sized NAXJA dump, Ill post in 20 minutes, should give you kids time to come with something better than "quit crying"
If you think Im going to back down to these posts, then u bumped your fuckin head.
Ill keep posting here till they delete or all you Rainbow clubbers go back to the fan boy site.

Funny I didnt see any NAXJA guys in the bar 8yrs ago, I wouldnt have guessed it was a gay bar.
Looked more like a typical Peninsula Bar in AK, Drunks, Fisherman, and Cannery types.

Wow Owlie, you are the dumbest person NAXJA has ever been affiliated...and we even had XJGUY! :eek:

Oh and PS, Im registered here earlier than you, and have 3 more posts soo....

STFU N00B!!

Your weld's suck, you should take some classes.

:barf: :eek:

Oh and PS, Im registered here earlier than you, and have 3 more posts soo.... STFU N00B!! Your weld's suck, you should take some classes.
Now thats what Im talking about.

Now thats what Im talking about.



Don't know jokes eh?

Your welds still suck though, seriously...I wouldnt drive that sh!tbox for anything.

http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/album/images/hjeepxj.jpg
Man those welds on your Euro guard look pretty tight.
Was that prison vocation that taught YOU to weld?
Youre one of those "I havent done it but If I did, I would do it this way" posters arent you?

speaking of bolt-on shitboxes..
That Jeep is a fuckin joke.
Euro mesh grill inserts and all.
I wish it was darker so I could see the Underbody Neon and Blue-lit Panasonic MP3 player

SeanP: Your radius arms are good for one run before they tweak. That angle is just hosed.
I finally figured out what you are referring to.
That pic u saw needs a little clarification:
Here is a far-off shot of the same "angles".
http://www.jokerspub.com/22.jpg
This is the angle with most of the weight on it and all 4 springs in the coilovers.
http://www.jokerspub.com/33.jpg

I finally figured out what you are referring to.
That pic u saw needs a little clarification:
Here is a far-off shot of the same "angles".


I think he was talking about these angles.

http://www.nmnetsys.net/hosted/progress_/images/P1010040.JPG

Or even this one...

http://www.nmnetsys.net/hosted/progress_/images/P1010041.JPG

Holy lnewbie bashing newbie Batman. :laughing:


I'm bored you guys are stopping or going away.

That is all