Anyone have any opinions on he new SJ coil overs for the TJ ?

These are a bolt on right ?

Are they just for the front or does the kit include rear ones too ?

Any idea how much these are ?

I believe there are 6", 8" and 10" models available.

Cheers

DS

Geeze colin.. your already thinking about going coilovers???

Must be nice

James

Geez never thought we would be telling you this do a search these have been beat to death already...but a quick run down bolt-on, yes, with only a few holes to drill, price about $1400(for the upgrade for dodge) and I don't know if that includes the rear...everything I have read about them saus front only nothing about the rear...this months issue of Petersons has a little thing from the SEMA show and this is what they said about them...goodluck...IMO not worth the price for what you get...if youre considering doing coilovers do the real thing and get the kind of travel you should from a coilover:D

Theyt are in the new Quadratec. The front coilovers are $1689.95. The kits have front coilovers and rear coils and go from $2149-$3879. Heights available from 4-10"

-Bart

Hey Colin, what's up?

I don't know about the skyjacker kit. It's only benefit is that it is bolt on, which doesn't account for much for something like this in my opinion. They must use small travel shocks since the height of the mount is pretty low.

The upper coil over mounts really aren't that difficult to make if you've got a friend who can bend tubing. Email me and I can describe it better, or there was a thread about this that I wrote something on a few days ago.

Front coilovers aren't that difficult on the TJ, it is the rear shocks that cause a problem.

CJ

Hey CJ, did you do the rear coil-over conversion also or just the front?? If so can you try to post some pictures, I saw your pictures for the front but I'm interested in seeing the rear coil-overs. Did you change the basic short arm (or long arm) setup that TJ's have??

thanks for your time

hey guys - been a while :)

I haven't been on the board for months...

Just read about these and my thoughts were the same as CJs - how can they be of much use when the mount doesn't go through the tub.

I was just curious...

Hey James, how's that heap of yours coming along ?

DS

Originally posted by DippStick

Hey James, how's that heap of yours coming along ?

DS

Slowly.. VERY SLOWLY... but hey.. i still wheel it.. Its not a flat fender anymore.. thanks to the insurance :D :D Got any spare Long arm kits you wanna give me.. or a few $k laying around???



;)

For all that money what are you really getting with coilovers???:confused:

A little more flex?? Is a little more flex gonna get you that much farther down the trail?

Just curious?

Originally posted by JasonTJ
For all that money what are you really getting with coilovers???:confused:

A little more flex?? Is a little more flex gonna get you that much farther down the trail?

Just curious?

Well if you are refering to this coilover kit you wont really gain anything other than being able to say you have coilovers...but if you are refering to a real coilover setup then you get a TON more flex and a TON more control thus enabling you to get much farther down the trail...do you think a lot of the guys from UROC ARCA and CalRocs run coilovers just for the hell of it or because they have too much money:rolleyes:

I know what the Arca guys run. I guess what I'm asking, I'm asking cause I dont know, is TJ's have coils, they are not coil overs. What advantage do you get by putting the coil over top the shock that you can't get with the coil beside the shock.

I put coilovers front and rear on my Jeep and built a suspension which has "long arms"

There are plenty of pictures at:

http://www.admotorsports.com/jeep.org/cjl-tj

Look in the 01-01-02 directory.

The MAIN advantage to going coilover is the quality of the shock you use. Rancho RS9000's are among the "best" readily available shocks....the swayaways and bilstein's make those look like child's play.

The shock ability is great...I can be going 15mph down a really rutted out road and it rides like a caddilac.

These shocks have threaded bodies and you can simply use "inexpensive" coils. You have MUCH MUCH more adjustability in terms of ride height, pre-load, etc. Coilover shocks are around $250 per shock and get up to a bit under $500 when you add the coilover kits and the coils themselves.

It's a big investment but the quality of both the products and results are incredible.

CJ

CJ Lagos,

Thanks for the info. But would a higher quality shock get you furhter down the trail in an extreme rock crawling scenario? I'm thinking the shock quality would have little to do with that. Now before everyone chimes in about how ARCA runs coil-overs let me say that I'm talking about TJ's that already have coils from the factory. So besides ride quality and adjustment of ride height, the ends doesnt justify the means for the pure rock crawling aspect. I'm not knocking any one who has them, I just personally don't see what they would be gettin me.

Jason,

That's fine. No one is forcing you to use them. I built a custom suspension for my Jeep which makes use of the coilovers. Putting them on a stockish TJ probably wouldn't give you a whole lot of benefit.

Another thing here that really made the decision for me was the facotry spring perches. I was running about 4.5-6" of lift with 39.5" tires and 14" of travel at each corner. That simply isn't possible with the factory spring/shock locations. I would have had to run shorter coils/shocks because of the ride height...I wanted the suspension travel without the ride hight that nornally comes with it.

I spent about $1750 I guess on my complete coilover shocks. I then spent about $800 on heim joints/misc and around $100-$150 on tubing for the control arms. Sure it costs me a little more in terms of money and a lot more in terms of labor, than say a complete RE kit(which I don't even know how much they cost). But...I think my suspension is in a completely different league than the RE kit.

It isn't neccesarily getting to the end of the trail, it's how you get there...THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUt.

CJ

I agree with CJ on this one. If you are looking to go big, you need to go coilovers. Anytime you use a coil spacer the coil just sags. I would imagine it would be way easyer to fab up a mount for a coilover as opposed to that whole spring bucket deal. Another point that is a really minor one at that however, is that a coil over wont make that rattle like a coil does when under full drop and it starts to drop out of the retainers. That bugs me. Plus in the rear, it doesn't even rattle, the coil just shoots out under flex. But I am a short arm kit, and I would imagine that doesn't occure as much with a long arm.

whats up guys,well if i can put my two cents in i would go with a real coil over set up like swayaway or king or bilstein before skycrap just for the simple reason everyone else gives you a dual rate spring where as skycrap there is one spring and a small shock i saw the nothing too impressive....

Originally posted by tj7
whats up guys,well if i can put my two cents in i would go with a real coil over set up like swayaway or king or bilstein before skycrap just for the simple reason everyone else gives you a dual rate spring where as skycrap there is one spring and a small shock i saw the nothing too impressive....

Dude: Skycrap = KING hence the name sky KING. However, rumor has it that Skycrap may be going with another shock manufacture.

hey dude,sky king and king are not the same companies so i still would go with the best which is swayaway and go with 2.5 shocks diameter....

Originally posted by tj7
hey dude,sky king and king are not the same companies so i still would go with the best which is swayaway and go with 2.5 shocks diameter....

Dude: lets be serrious here. Sky "Hack"er is using KING Shocks on their Sky "King" coil over kits.

i realize that but the coil overs that you get from king are dual spring with remote resevoirs and dont come with some bolt on garbage limiting where you have to mount them we are not arguing here but are agreeing that its alot of money and if yur gonna spend cash spend it on the right product once not 15 times...

Originally posted by tj7
i realize that but the coil overs that you get from king are dual spring with remote resevoirs and dont come with some bolt on garbage limiting where you have to mount them we are not arguing here but are agreeing that its alot of money and if yur gonna spend cash spend it on the right product once not 15 times...

What I am trying to say here is that King is the manufacture of the actual shock part of the Sky "KING". Not all shocks manufactured by King or any other manufacture (Bilstein, Fox,or Sway-A-Way) include a dual rate kit or remote reservoir. I also agree when you say if your gonna get coil overs you should get the whole deal (dual rate, remote reservoir, etc...). Buy it once and be happy.