what is the formula to figure out how many each tire needs?

trial and error

Why do you wanna use golf balls? Are they that bad..id try using patch weights on the inside instead of golf balls.. How far out are they? What kinda tires?:D

They are 38" SX's on 15x10 champion beedlocks. The are pretty damn bad. I have never put them on a machine to find out exactly how off they are. I just heard that this works and was thinking of giving it a try.

Guess it wouldnt hurt to try it, But id say if your competent enough to put golf balls inside the tire, i'd say 180 it first, unless youve already done this..Might help...You really should have them put on a balancer to do it right..Maybe they need a few oz and it will even out..OR you have an out of round one, then your fawked..:D

can do the bb thing to which was discussed a little while back

What was the bb thing?? What would I look for in the search?

Im sure hes just meaning drop BB's in it..But seriously that shits gonna be loud and fawking annoying..Is that a titliest in your tire or are you just FAWKING retarded.. IMO..Good Luck anyway..

it was in the thread about rockcstomper beadlocks

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23964&highlight=rockstomper+beadlocks

I'd put 5-6 in each tire if you have the 38" SX's like I do. It smoothed out my back end quite a bit. Just take the tire off the truck, pull the valve core and use you high lift under a bumper or something to pop the bead. Add the balls, and air up again. I'd start with 6 and see where that gets you. If you do it, post back with what happened so others can learn from it.

i have some beach front property in AZ for sale. intrested? :flipoff2:

But seriously that shits gonna be loud and fawking annoying..

I think we'd all prefer it if you spoke from experience...rather than out of your ass!

There was another thread where I posted another update on my BB method...a search on "balancing" or "balance" will likely turn it up.

The results are excellent - and you can't hear it at all. 'course I'm driving a whisper quite caddy in the first place....but then niether is anyone else who needs to even consider this.

I went BB's because the weight of a golf ball is about only about 1.6 oz.

I dont know if any of that shit works. I tried some of that balence shit one time which is specifically designed to balence tires and it friggin sucked. I dont know if it made it any worse, but it sure as hell didnt make it any better.

As for being screwed if you have a swamper out of round...I have seen many a swamper being rounded and let me assure you, the only swampers that are IN round are SSRs and maybe TSL radials (never seen them rounded though). As for all the others, they are all out of round. That is why they ride like shit and cant be balenced.

Originally posted by BillaVista


I think we'd all prefer it if you spoke from experience...rather than out of your ass!

There was another thread where I posted another update on my BB method...a search on "balancing" or "balance" will likely turn it up.

The results are excellent - and you can't hear it at all. 'course I'm driving a whisper quite caddy in the first place....but then niether is anyone else who needs to even consider this.

I went BB's because the weight of a golf ball is about only about 1.6 oz.
I work at Les schwab tires Bill..Thats my experience.. Im a Mechanic there and I use to be a tire monkey.. If you think its not loud any annoying thats you, Ive rode in a rig that tried this, a 78 Jeep... Banging against the wheel all the time...Freeway it was fine, city driving it was fawking annoying...
:flipoff2:
Midevil way of doing things but if it floats your jeep than great

Golf balls sounds like b*llsh*t, BBs..uh maybe but what about when either of these start to disintegrate? And what do they do to the inside of the tire? I would think that they would tend to tear up the inside of the tire carcass as they bounce around. If you've ever looked inside the tire, there's not much rubber (protection) for the carcass (bias plies or radial plies) from anything bouncing and grinding around the inside of the tire.

What about that Equal (sp?) tire balancing powder (?) that you put in the tire instead of lead weights on the outside of the rim???

Originally posted by The Chad
Is that a titliest in your tire or are you just FAWKING retarded..

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! That was good.

Ive used equal in a friends tires..It helped..Used 2 bags per tire..
First step is to put em ona spinner like I said before..If there is a High/Low spot, gold balls, balancing, nothing will help.. Its now a spare..

And quit talking about my ass you :rainbow: :D
j/k :flipoff2:

Originally posted by The Chad

I work at Les schwab tires Bill..Thats my experience..

and u r bragging about this???????:flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo
i have some beach front property in AZ for sale. intrested? :flipoff2: hey camo i will buy it :rasta: :rasta: :rasta:

Originally posted by Nate C
Golf balls sounds like b*llsh*t, BBs..uh maybe but what about when either of these start to disintegrate?

How the fawk do you disentigrate a BB?:p :D

I want to try it with 7 1/2 shotgun shot, but I am afraid that it might tear up the inside of the tire. 180 bucks apiece and wearing on the outside, it would be a shame to start working on the inside too. Hunter GSP 9700 has got to be the best way, but damn, they want too much for that around here...

Originally posted by SeaBass44


and u r bragging about this???????:flipoff2:
:flipoff2:
I use to work at Dairy Queen back in high school :D
Fawker :flipoff2:

Originally posted by The Chad

:flipoff2:
I use to work at Dairy Queen back in high school :D
Fawker :flipoff2:
:confused: R U saying to use whip cream and cherries then, or put the whole banana split in the tire?:D

Originally posted by camo
i have some beach front property in AZ for sale. intrested? :flipoff2:

How about some special "tire balancing glitter" :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Originally posted by SeaBass44

:confused: R U saying to use whip cream and cherries then, or put the whole banana split in the tire?:D
Hehe Yeah Prolly works the same as gold Balls :D
Mmmm..Banana Split.....
:flipoff2:

i ran some very old buckshot mudder q78's for a little bit. i had 3 tip flite's per front tire and 2 per rear. in my XJ i had em up to 75-80mph mulitple times. it worked pretty fucking good. couldnt hear them at all at low speeds or at high speeds. i would do it again.


Hunter

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Originally posted by Nate C
Golf balls sounds like b*llsh*t, BBs..uh maybe but what about when either of these start to disintegrate?
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How the fawk do you disentigrate a BB?"


Well...let's see...a bunch of copper plated steel BBs rolling and bouncing aroung inside your tire and wheel. That's like friction against each other, pounding against the inside of the tire carcass, and against the wheel. Ever seen how a rock polisher works? Basically, you put all the rough stones inside a cylinder, add water and some grit, plug it in and let er go. After awhile you have polished rocks like are used in jewelry. When you pour out the water to go to a finer grit, all kinds of junk pours out with it. This 'junk' in the case of BBs (or golfballs) and a tire would be the inside of your tire, wheel, and the BBs or golfballs.

I'm wondering about the Equal too. What's it made out of? Abrasive? Anybody ever used it with success?

My swampers get out of balance real fast...not to mention the lost weights on the trail.

The golf ball trick comes from big rigs. They run them with good success, so I don't see why they wouldn't work in a Swamper. I have Equal in my 35" SX's and they're fine to about 65-70mph before they start bouncing. Concensus seems to be hit or miss on the Equal though. Of course my Heep hasn't moved in a year so this is from memory :rolleyes: Nice thing about the golf balls is they're designed to take impacts repeatedly but it sounds like BB's have worked well... that's basically what Centramatics are right? Are the Centramatics fluid filled too? Never seen one in person.

Equal comes in a bag about the size of a Bag of Redman Chew
It kinda looks like laundrey soap, Powdered..

equal does work... you have to put enough in for the size tire your running..... i got an equal hook up so ill keep using it :flipoff2: i thinkthe bb's would work also

Originally posted by Eric Ruhl
... that's basically what Centramatics are right? Are the Centramatics fluid filled too? Never seen one in person.
Centramatic's (http://www.centramatic.com/) They use durametal and synthetic dampening fluid sealed in the balancer. :D

I've got 5 golf balls in each of my 38.5x14.5 SX's. Works fine IMO. Been in for a year, and I have yet to hear them, city or highway or trail. Cheap and easy method for a trail truck.

Hey Chad, which Les Schwab do you work at? I have a friend who works at the Arlington store.

4 balls in each of 38 SX's on MRT's, works great for me.

I have Equal in one of my 38's its working.......... i guess it does shke the crap out of me

I would put them on a balncer then add some weights, then mark the tire and de-bead it and Drop a bag of equal in there, that is about the best solution i have come up with

Originally posted by JohnC
Hey Chad, which Les Schwab do you work at? I have a friend who works at the Arlington store.
Im at the Mount Vernon Store:D

Originally posted by welndmn
I have Equal in one of my 38's its working.......... i guess it does shke the crap out of me

I would put them on a balncer then add some weights, then mark the tire and de-bead it and Drop a bag of equal in there, that is about the best solution i have come up with

Will a little packet of sugar work or does it have to be Equal?? LOL Also I am in on the “ magic tire balancing glitter “ you guys crack me up I have a few #’s of mud in my tire is that going to help? Because it starts hoping like a mother fucker at about 45MPH now should I add a bit more water?

I am trying to seprate fact from fiction...

If a tire is out of round no amount of ballancing is going to help. But if a tire is out of round and out of ballance I guess that has to worse right?

So trying to seprate ballance from roundness, has anyone taken an out of ballance tire wheel/combo, put in equal, or golf balls or bb's and then put the tire back on in the same location, and then rechecked the ballance on a tire machine? Do rolling items in the tire actually "ballance" the tire above say 45MPH or so?

Im at the Mount Vernon Store

Oh okay. Well anyways, my friend Drew works at Arlington.

OK, someone please explain the physics of this to me, why does the free rolling weight either in the tire or behind it (centramics) go to the light side of the rotating mass?? Back to the question, I would think there would be some kind of formula (way above my math skills) to figure out how much weight to add to each tire. Maybe run the tire on a balancer, extrapolate the number it gives you for the rim weights out to the inside of the tire, then add that ammount of bb's, or golf balls, or equal. I would think that since all the weight you add is supposed to go to the lightest side of the tire, that adding too much weight would throw the tire out of wack the other way, or is this countered by the wieghts constantly moving?? all these questions, my brain hurts, think i need another:beer:

To all the naysayers, don't knock it until you try it. There's too many guys on this board already that are full of shit and too quick to voice an opinion when they haven't tried things.
Read all the posts, everyone who has actually taken the time to run the golf balls can tell you the same thing - they helped. Is there a magic formula or a way to make a SX swamper ride like a street tire, hell no. That's not why we bought Swampers. You're an idiot if you think a BB or golf ball is gonna wear through the sidewall on a SX.
Drop 4-6 balls in each tire ( I'm talking big boy tires, not little girly 33's and such) and it will help. I couldn't run more than 60 before my rear started to shake so violently that I had to back off before the golf balls. Now I can run up to seventy before it starts to shake. That's more than fast enough for me with stock brakes and a fully loaded rig.

I used equal for a while! I had a lot of trouble when I would air down the valve cores would stick open with the shiat! I personally would not use it agian for Any reason. :rainbow:

has any one tried haveing the tire balanced on
the vehicle ?

how about welding some weight on the rim.

or is the problem that after abuseing your
tires the position and size of the weight needed
to ballance them would change.

Originally posted by Land Crusher


how about welding some weight on the rim.



Welding on rims is a VERY bad idea. It can be done, but i've seen too many rims fail like that.
you create all sorts of stresses/strains in the metal.

Originally posted by pmurf1
To all the naysayers, don't knock it until you try it. There's too many guys on this board already that are full of shit and too quick to voice an opinion when they haven't tried things.
Read all the posts, everyone who has actually taken the time to run the golf balls can tell you the same thing - they helped. Is there a magic formula or a way to make a SX swamper ride like a street tire, hell no. That's not why we bought Swampers. You're an idiot if you think a BB or golf ball is gonna wear through the sidewall on a SX.
Drop 4-6 balls in each tire ( I'm talking big boy tires, not little girly 33's and such) and it will help. I couldn't run more than 60 before my rear started to shake so violently that I had to back off before the golf balls. Now I can run up to seventy before it starts to shake. That's more than fast enough for me with stock brakes and a fully loaded rig.

very well said! I hate P.C.E.'s, hera sayers, if u haven't tried, or know someone that has that u trust, then shut the cake hole:D I'am going to pop in 6 in each of my 39.5x15 TSL's ahter I run then without to see the diff. If I need to, ....bet I need to:D

Originally posted by SeaBass44


very well said! I hate P.C.E.'s, hera sayers, if u haven't tried, or know someone that has that u trust, then shut the cake hole:D I'am going to pop in 6 in each of my 39.5x15 TSL's ahter I run then without to see the diff. If I need to, ....bet I need to:D

trust me you'll need to :D

pmurf 1 said it all. I work in a Toyota dealer so I have all the time I need with the balancer, and although i only run 33' they are boggers. I have tried pretty much all solutions. Equla works great. only one problem,. You have to make sure the air you used is perfectly dry. If not it will clump up. They use that stuff in tractor and trailers, and how many do you see with a tire bouncing. You know they have to be heavy. Golf balls work well but they weigh to much each.
I personally recommend bb's they are soft metal so they don't tear up the insides. But I do recommend changing them periodically. They do start to corrode even with dry, but you dont have to change them as often.
Besides ther are smaller and as your tire wears or chunks, they will move around to "find" the light spots.
It doesn't matter how much you put in but It least as to be more them the heaviest they are out of balance. If they are like 9 oz out the put in like 12oz. They will spread out evenly once they "find" all the light spots.
And yes I was very bored one day and actually tried all this on the truck and on the balancer.

Originally posted by Sillyneck


trust me you'll need to :D :D :D :D :D

Originally posted by Nate C
Well...let's see...a bunch of copper plated steel BBs rolling and bouncing aroung inside your tire and wheel. That's like friction against each other, pounding against the inside of the tire carcass, and against the wheel. Ever seen how a rock polisher works? Basically, you put all the rough stones inside a cylinder, add water and some grit, plug it in and let er go. After awhile you have polished rocks like are used in jewelry. When you pour out the water to go to a finer grit, all kinds of junk pours out with it. This 'junk' in the case of BBs (or golfballs) and a tire would be the inside of your tire, wheel, and the BBs or golfballs.

I'm wondering about the Equal too. What's it made out of? Abrasive? Anybody ever used it with success?

My swampers get out of balance real fast...not to mention the lost weights on the trail. [/B]



Alright I know I am bringing an old thread back up but I am wondering, can you put water in the tires for the same effect yet there would be no worry about it wearing the inside of the tire? Would water act pretty much if not exactly the same as BBs or other similar stuff? Only downside I can think of maybe would be rust? But I guess you could mix somehting else in it to prevent that too. There has to be some other major downfall I can't think of since it hasn't been brought up before.

Originally posted by DetR6oit




Alright I know I am bringing an old thread back up but I am wondering, can you put water in the tires for the same effect yet there would be no worry about it wearing the inside of the tire? Would water act pretty much if not exactly the same as BBs or other similar stuff? Only downside I can think of maybe would be rust? But I guess you could mix somehting else in it to prevent that too. There has to be some other major downfall I can't think of since it hasn't been brought up before.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....sounds too easy:flipoff2:

Originally posted by SeaBass44


Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....sounds too easy:flipoff2:


Naw its tricky with a bucket...

antifreeze would work the same eh?

i know someone mentioned that before on this board.

it'd sure suck for the poor sap that has to dismount that tire the next time though :)

lol, this thread is old, I have been through 2 more rigs and 3 more sets of tires! I'm back to 39.5's lol never ran the old ones, I think I will drop 6 balls in each this time, have not mounterd these up yet.;)

Ok, finally a post I can offer something.

My first thing for balancing 35"+ tires is forget most passenger tire shops ther piddly a$$ machines will dance all over the shop. Yes, the hold down bolts will snap, BTDT. Better truck shops can balance 16.5 and up rims. They will also have the B and E series weights that these rims use and not the pasenger tire weights that the corner garage uses.

A proper balancer (newer) will have the ability to first measure the degree to which the rim is out of balance. Simply done by balancing the rim alone and then mounting the tire and spinning the unit. The tire is then rotated on the rim as per the balancer to minimize the weight required. I have seen 18-44 Boggers come up even, after some serious fiddling:D Granted it doesn't happen every time but given what their building Interco does a damn fine job. Find the shop that likes a challenge, and doesn't let it out the door till its done right.

On to Equal, I was involved in the market introduction up here back in 92 or so. Equal consists of spherical polymer resin, similar in appearance to some blasting media. However its shape is intentionally rounded to reduce abrasiveness.
While other substances short of razor blades are unlikely to cut through a sidewall while aiding balancing, the inner bladder (the thing that actually holds the air) in is fairly fragile. This combined with the rather violent demands we place on our tires leads me to believe that nicked golf balls, fractured BB's et al, are not the best choice in a tire.

Fluid in a tire, hhmmmm. Anyone who's been on a farm knows farmers love calcium chloride, not only can it improve traction by adding weight where they need it,it can smooth out the ride to a degree. The downsides are getting the fluid out. Water is ok enviromentally last time I checked (is there now an anti-water greenie coalition? :rolleyes: ) But I would prefer my dog not drinking antifreeze on the Con. Secondly the "Tire Monkies" are going to be mightily unimpressed with you should you want them to repair your tire.
PS water freezes.:flipoff2:

Back to Equal. I love the stuff, it really works in my experience. (more than just my tires, hundreds of over the road truck tires) Better than wheel weights, better than Centramatic (sp) ring balancers, better than fluid, better than most everything I've tried. Yes the air should be dry, yes it can wreck a valve core, but there are (relatively) inexpensive solutions to these problems. Minature air dryers and core filters.

Sorry, no yeller star I'm not gonna pimp, Lance's dog looks hungry. Didn't someone just mention about newbs taking old threads to the top.:D :D :D

seems to me if you want a Cadillac ride---buy one!
I've run Boggers for years....from 35"s to 44"s, knew they were gonna ride like shit so it didn't matter.
I own a tire shop and use the latest and most expensive equipment on the market and if a tire is not "TRUE" its gonna ride like shit!
When I order new Boggers I have the option of ordering in more than I need to find the roundest ones, mount them, run them for a couple of hundred miles and "TRUE" them....not balanced unless they are real bad. Patch balancing can only be done to street run tires....airing down a tire causes it to flex and peel the patch...than its worse than when you started!
Sure "trueing" a tire takes rubber off, but think about it a perfectly round tire has less "resistance to roll", thus will last longer. With the Hunter 9700 r/f balancer it is possible to "match" balance a tire to a rim for a more accurate balance and it does cost about $20.00 + per tire depending on the size....all this to redo again in 10,000 miles!!
I've driven boggers up to 100 mph without balancing them, just dont drive the speed they shake at.
Remember low speed shake is out of round tire
High speed shake is balance problem

hope I helped a little

36" TSL's on beadlocks - 6 golf balls each. Now I can drive to the trail head, AND, eat a greasy breakfast sandwich at the same time. Works for me. :D

Originally posted by Bondage
This combined with the rather violent demands we place on our tires leads me to believe that nicked golf balls, fractured BB's et al, are not the best choice in a tire.



Empirical evidence, having run golf balls in goodyear 35" MTRs & 37" SAs, Intercos 33" SSRs & 34" and 36" bias TSLs, and many a tractor tire in the past, tells me golf balls work just fine for balance and do not damage the tire.

After two seasons of running golf balls in my last set of TSLs, there was a very faint shiny section on the inner wall of the tires. Running a finger across the area, there was no discernable difference between the shiny section and the rest of the inner wall.

6 balls balanced my 36x12.50/15 bias TSLs to ~80mph, where without any golf balls they would shake like a quake at 55mph.

When i ran some 36x12.50 tsls they vibrated very badly so i put 3 balls in each tire and it worked great until one of the golf balls hit a tire plug and shot it out leaving me on the interstate with no spare. so i got rid of those and am now kicking my self in the ass for doing that

1BDTJ

I agree, My DD is a STS
As for driving Boggers at 100 MPH... Don't know if I would do that at my age. You're Absolutely right about patch weights, they are very popular with the import crowd as not to mar their Civics with 22"s:eek: :D
But, if its street driven a good balance job and tire trueing (truing?)will dramatically increase the life of a higher durometer tire and probably related components. Seems a low durometer tire will true itself quite quickly
Qualified statement. I have not trued or seen any of the soft compound off road tires trued yet.
Ya, when you balance with lead ya gots to do it again and again.
The 9700 is a mighty fine machine. Coats 6401 is good too, not as fancy though.

i balanced a rear tire with BBs and had LOADS of black/brown dust come out of the tire when i replaced them. the ribs on the inside of the tire carcass were all completely gone as well.. bbs do wear the tire from the inside out.. granted, i had probably 10,000 miles on that BB job.

I ran 5 golfballs in each of my 35" baja claws (bias ply).

When I first mounted the tires at a local highschool autoshop, I didnt have time to balance them because they were closing. It wobbled like a mofo at 25mph. I hopped on the freeway and the screws in the doors were working themselves out. I actually found a few screws on the floorboards the next day. After I put in the 5 golfballs per tire, it was definately better. It still wobbled between 35 and 45, but was as smooth as a bias tire can be outside of that wobble range. I drove around like that for about 5 months and then sold them so I never did get to see what kinda condition the golf balls were in, but I've read they do wear down.

what about putting in a bag of these ??
http://www.the6mmshop.com/ProductImages/411.gif
http://www.the6mmshop.com

hey, has anyone got any pics of their Golf Balls inside the tire??:flipoff2:

how about in action?? that would be great help.:flipoff2:

this post is from september.......that was 6 months ago......move on.:rolleyes:

I have to bring this thread back to life because I just got some 36X12.50R15 SX's and get the wobble at about 25 MPH only. I knew it was going to since they are on beadlocks and not balanced. So I was thinking of doing the golf ball thing too. Seems that most say it works and seems that the key number is about 6 of them in each. BUT no one seems to mention how the inside of the tire holds up to this or what the golf balls look like after a while. Any one have any insite on the aftermath?

I also found this article saying it was bad.Click here for article (http://www.trucktires.com/us_eng/library/publications/periodicals/RealAnswers/01v6iss2/ra9.asp)


Seems like every one is jumping on something like this idea. Balancing beads (http://wheelweights.ca/balancing-beads.htm)

I have to bring this thread back to life because I just got some 36X12.50R15 SX's and get the wobble at about 25 MPH only. I knew it was going to since they are on beadlocks and not balanced. So I was thinking of doing the golf ball thing too. Seems that most say it works and seems that the key number is about 6 of them in each. BUT no one seems to mention how the inside of the tire holds up to this or what the golf balls look like after a while. Any one have any insite on the aftermath?

I also found this article saying it was bad.Click here for article (http://www.trucktires.com/us_eng/library/publications/periodicals/RealAnswers/01v6iss2/ra9.asp)


Seems like every one is jumping on something like this idea. Balancing beads (http://wheelweights.ca/balancing-beads.htm)

not sure what to think of that, it is FIRESTONE, worst tire in the world:D
i have run golfballs in several sets a few thosand miles with only a lite white powder coming off and they balance out well.
Got new 40Iroks and will drop 8 in each tire, no worries to me.

I emailed the beads guys since they won't list a price, you have to email first to find out how much all there stuff cost, not a very efective way tio do bussiness:shaking:

there online ordering
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What about that Equal (sp?) tire balancing powder (?) that you put in the tire instead of lead weights on the outside of the rim???

i've run the Equal powder on 38 tsl's and 37 mtr's without fail, great stuff, you just need to make sure u run a water trap on your air line for airing back up, so u dont get any water inside the tire.

1BDTJ


But, if its street driven a good balance job and tire trueing (truing?)will dramatically increase the life of a higher durometer tire and probably related components. Seems a low durometer tire will true itself quite quickly
Qualified statement. I have not trued or seen any of the soft compound off road tires trued yet.
.

Just exactly what is tire trueing? :confused: I think I get the general idea of removing excess rubber from certain areas of the tire to make the tire more round, but, what is used to achieve this? I'm looking at getting 38.5" SX's and I know they will have some kind of flaw in them ; judging from past sets of super swampers. :grinpimp:
Thanks

The antifreeze trick works and if you use the treehugger formula stuff no ones pets will die if you do get a puncture. It won't hurt the tire or rim and contains anti rust chemicals too. By the way most tire sealers contain glycol and cellulose. As a side note a mixture of used antifreeze and shredded newspaper works great as a tire sealant for tubeless tires, works great on quads, lawnmowers etc, put some in a forklift tire at work that we had to pump up every morning and never had to put air in again( till I tore out the sidewall on the tire about a month later). For some unknown reason used antifreeze seems to work best. Don't know if it would work on a daily driver but works great on trail only stuff.

My Fawking Irocs are outa round...... :mad3: I think I'll just do burnouts till they round out :rolleyes:

Seriously....1 of the 5 is an 1" taller than the others, maybe they sold me the new 43" prototype :flipoff2:







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The antifreeze trick works and if you use the treehugger formula stuff no ones pets will die if you do get a puncture. It won't hurt the tire or rim and contains anti rust chemicals too. By the way most tire sealers contain glycol and cellulose. As a side note a mixture of used antifreeze and shredded newspaper works great as a tire sealant for tubeless tires, works great on quads, lawnmowers etc, put some in a forklift tire at work that we had to pump up every morning and never had to put air in again( till I tore out the sidewall on the tire about a month later). For some unknown reason used antifreeze seems to work best. Don't know if it would work on a daily driver but works great on trail only stuff.

I've got a quart of RV antifreeze in each of my 35s. It calmed the front down noticably but I still get really bad hop out back that didn't change (starts at not quite 50MPH, gets worse from there through 65 which is as high as I've taken it). I'll update when I get shocks back there :D

im running sand in my dayton timberline mts. just girly little 33" radials but ive never had any vibrations at all. only have about 2k on the tires, ill break them back down in a few more thousand and see how its looking.

kolby

I tried 5 golf balls in my 35 MTR's didn't work.
I am thinking you only need 3 in any case (3 points determine a plane). I never tried 3 though.

I am thinking you only need 3 in any case (3 points determine a plane). I never tried 3 though.

sure, if you're less than 4.8oz out of balance. defining a plane has next to nothing to do with this - you're simply adding distributable weight to make up for poor distribution in the carcass.

There is a trick that has not been talked about very much. Matching the high spot of the tire to the low spot of the wheel. Put the tire and wheel on a balancer or something that will spin freely. Using a marker hold it close enough to the inner part of the wheel, as it spins the marker will contact the low spot. Do the same with a stick and marker on the tire to find the high spot of the tire. Then find the center of both marks, break the tire down and align the marks. I have seen 1.5" of more of out of round get to almost nothing doing this. I have done this many times in 13yrs of being in the tire bussiness. You also need to find a shop that likes a challenge.

Equal works well, you can buy valve stems designed for use with it, so it doesn't come out when you air down. Another way is balance patches on the inside.

So, any specific type of ball? Balata, Surlyn..........Nike, Top Flite, Titleist, what works best? :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Read this.....This is what we use....

http://wheelweights.ca/balancing-beads.htm

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Water is ok enviromentally last time I checked (is there now an anti-water greenie coalition? :rolleyes:

http://baetzler.de/humor/ban_dhmo.html :flipoff2:

Funny the thread starter has bailed out on this one.
I don't know why all the shit talk about BB's ..they work great , not loud at all and they are cheap as hell. I put 8oz of bb's and 2oz of prestone in each of my 35"SX's (prestone keeps them from clumping in the winter ...if you get one).Worked like a charm!Will do it to any bias tires I own.Try it ,you won't be diasapointed and if you are you only spent about $5 TOTAL!

i've got 5 golf balls in each of my 35" MTRs. it works pretty well as long as I air up to 30+ psi. It is pretty bad with 24 psi, I think the reason being that the flat-spot at the bottom of the tire is too big and it makes the balls bounce at the bottom, but that's just a theory.

I was going to try the whole golfball thing in my new 39.5 IROKs. I have read a lot of good things about it. But on the day I got them I was so exited to mount them I forgot to throw the golf balls in. But after driving them for 2 months they are the smoothest interco product I've ever driven or riden in unbalenced they are smooth up to 65 (fastest my rig will go). I thought the golfball noise would be an interesting conversation peice on the trail. Don't know if they really make any noise because never have ran them.

I was going to try the whole golfball thing in my new 39.5 IROKs. I have read a lot of good things about it. But on the day I got them I was so exited to mount them I forgot to throw the golf balls in. But after driving them for 2 months they are the smoothest interco product I've ever driven or riden in unbalenced they are smooth up to 65 (fastest my rig will go). I thought the golfball noise would be an interesting conversation peice on the trail. Don't know if they really make any noise because never have ran them.
i've never heard mine on the trail, only on rare occasion coming to a stop at a stop sign/light

I was going to try the whole golfball thing in my new 39.5 IROKs. I have read a lot of good things about it. But on the day I got them I was so exited to mount them I forgot to throw the golf balls in. But after driving them for 2 months they are the smoothest interco product I've ever driven or riden in unbalenced they are smooth up to 65 (fastest my rig will go). I thought the golfball noise would be an interesting conversation peice on the trail. Don't know if they really make any noise because never have ran them.

I have new 39.5 iroks too, & I will leave them out after reading your reply & pop a bead and add them later if needed.
All the tires I have run them in, it is real hard to hear them and only at stops;)

I figured since I am replacing my bolts and cleaning up my rings I would do the golf ball thing. I just through 6 golf balls in two of the tires and will throw 6 in the other two in a couple days. We'll see if I get the wobble at about 25 MPH again. Should be by the weekend when I can drive it again.

I still have not seen any posts of people that ran them and what the inside looked like and how long after. If no one posts up then after a while of running them in mine I will crack one open and see what it looks like.

I figured since I am replacing my bolts and cleaning up my rings I would do the golf ball thing. I just through 6 golf balls in two of the tires and will throw 6 in the other two in a couple days. We'll see if I get the wobble at about 25 MPH again. Should be by the weekend when I can drive it again.

I still have not seen any posts of people that ran them and what the inside looked like and how long after. If no one posts up then after a while of running them in mine I will crack one open and see what it looks like.

?????????? how do I put this nicely, look back 1 page to my reply yesterday where I DID ANSWER, I am sorry, I can answer but I can't make YOU READ IT :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: answers come hard to those that will no read :p

Yep I did see your post and apriciate you posting your findings. However out of 4 pages there are only 2 responces to the aftermath. I would of thought more people would have had posted thier findings. Since so many people seemed to run the golf balls and like them I am doing the same.

Yep I did see your post and apriciate you posting your findings. However out of 4 pages there are only 2 responces to the aftermath. I would of thought more people would have had posted thier findings. Since so many people seemed to run the golf balls and like them I am doing the same.

Fair enough :) I have read many replys (ALL POSITIVE), run a search & wade through all the posts & you will find several replys on long term use;)