: got some discovery questions.
CrossBones00 11-11-2004, 07:40 PM I'm considering getting a discovery. But i have been looking around online and i cant find any good sites with offroad products for them, so what are some good site? does anybody make a 6" lift for them? if so, where, and anyone got pics of 6"..
And how are the rear axles?? How big of tire cand you fit on stock rear axle?
Thanks
PTSchram 11-11-2004, 07:58 PM I'll get the popcorn :flipoff2:
DieLucas! 11-11-2004, 08:03 PM You can get a 6" to 12" lift at your local Four Wheel Parts Warehouse.
The rear axles are bomb-proof. I hear Camo ditched his built up Dana 60 in favor of a stock Rover rear axle. The early 10-spline shafts are questionable, but the 24-spline shafts are stout.
Lots of guys running 44" Boggers and larger; no axle probs, no clearance issues. I think the current rage is 48" tires and some of the 52" military Michelins. If you want to run those, you'll need at least a 16" lift, and maybe fender-flares off of the D2 to stay legal with your local vehicle laws.
Most people don't realize it, but the small discplacement Rover V8 has more stroke than a big-block Chevy...it has loads of torque. The ZF-auto transmission is similar to the ones used in larger European cargo trucks (Mercedes and Volvo cargo trucks come to mind). The transfer case has a super low-range that allows a great crawl ratio without having to change your ring and pinion, even with the larger tires. The center differential is lockable and really improves highway driving, believe it or not. Best of all, it gets great gas mileage; at least 5 mpg better than most other SUVs.
They are pretty sweet rigs stock, but once you build one up, you'll be ready for the next Rubicon.
DieLucas! 11-11-2004, 08:05 PM I'll get the popcorn :flipoff2:
C'mon Paul...be helpfull.
BECAUSE THIS GUY IS AS DUMB AS A FAWKING BRICK!!! RUN AWAY NEWBIE BEFORE THE ASSRAPE BEGINS!!!
smbisig 11-11-2004, 08:08 PM I'm considering getting a discovery. But i have been looking around online and i cant find any good sites with offroad products for them, so what are some good site? does anybody make a 6" lift for them? if so, where, and anyone got pics of 6"..
And how are the rear axles?? How big of tire cand you fit on stock rear axle?
Thanks
Here is your lift kit. You should be able to fit at least 44"s with this lift kit.
PTSchram 11-11-2004, 08:17 PM [QUOTE=DieLucas!]C'mon Paul...be helpfull.
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In all reality, these trucks really shouldn't be lifted as they are about as good as they get stock. Lifts will result in accelerated u-joint wear, wandering steering, etc. How much articulation does a person really need?
When buying repair parts, insist on ONLY genuine Land Rover parts as these are the only ones that will work correctly for these technoloigically advanced design engines.
What ever you do, don't trust a word Pendy says, and never go to Discoweb.org.
Peace,
PT
DieLucas! 11-11-2004, 08:23 PM and never go to Discoweb.org.
Peace,
PT
That's a complete load of shit Paul, and you know it. A lot of guys at discoweb.org are running the large tires and lift. I would probably seek their input on these matters. Most of the wanks on PBB belong to dealership clubs and do the Bed-n-Breakfast outings. No real wheeling, no camping, no nothing but sucking the capitalist teat and driving their fancy Range Rovers over seldom traveled state highways to enjoy the roadside scenery.
Head over to discoweb.org, they should be able to help you a lot more than these pansies.
AND NEVER COME BACK!!!! EVARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
PTSchram 11-11-2004, 08:27 PM [QUOTE=DieLucas!]That's a complete load of shit Paul, and you know it. A lot of guys at discoweb.org are running the large tires and lift. I would probably seek their input on these matters. Most of the wanks on PBB belong to dealership clubs and do the Bed-n-Breakfast outings. No real wheeling, no camping, no nothing but sucking the capitalist teat and driving their fancy Range Rovers over seldom traveled state highways to enjoy the roadside scenery.
Head over to discoweb.org, they should be able to help you a lot more than these pansies.
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I better go delete my comments about the hybrid, eh?
As it is,I figure I was never banned, just exiled temporarily :flipoff2:
aaron t 11-11-2004, 09:18 PM :flipoff2: paul, can i have some popcorn.....this is great stuff.
i serously can't believe people will ask this stuff here.
cross bones,
a few words of advice,
1. run.
2. don't take the flameing too seriously
3. do some searches. read other posts
4. discoweb (http://www.discoweb.org) go here.
5. that is not a set of easy questions to answer. afik rte is the only place that makes a lift remotely close to what you are asking and it is only 5".
obviously you have not noticed but this is not a website concearned with off the shelf stuff.
if you want any respect back, stick around and take your flaming like a man..........oh and welcome to pbb :flipoff2:
Old Scout 11-11-2004, 11:43 PM MOVING TIME! :cow:
CrossBones00 11-12-2004, 04:56 PM alright, first i would love to say, FUCK YOU all fags, who are getting so pissed off for asking about a 6" lift because i couldnt find one, and because i want to build something for tough trails, i saw some guys with some big, nice discoverys and a defender so now i want one, and why are you saying im running you fucking immature bitches, this is a website, how can i run, and why would i run? like i would run away from people on a fucking website. SOO FUCK OFF you guys arent serious off roaders, yer just a bunch of rich posers that can afford new land rovers so you think yer cool..
aaron t 11-12-2004, 07:58 PM :eek: whoah, there bones.
a. i was trying to help.
b. you are now in the right forum
c. its not just rich "fuckers" (i am definately poor) here. it is a question of etiquette. in the actual rover forum bigger fish are fried. it is a great source of information.
if you will notice, i gave you some mild ribbing, along with real advice. i am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here and try one more time. you can play along with the rest of us or continue to be butt hurt. i myself have recieved a good scalding here before as well. that is why the newbie forum is here.
here is the real deal (providing you are still reading)
disco is a good rig.
i have one. it is bone stock. i have 265/75-16 mtrs on it which imho are way too wide. 235/85-16 are a much better choice from the general consensus. nice and skinny and tall and don't rub on the radius arms.
tricking out a disco for bigger than 33" tires will take a lot of work. and money.
for 33s the factory disco is a very capable rig. putting a disco on 36" or bigger tires will require you to have a drive train that ceases to resemble a land rover, at which point you will be better off with a toyota minitruck. one you can cut up, tube and turn into a buggy. (not kidding)
once again the biggest aftermarket lift you can buy is a 5" kit from rovertym engineering, roughly $2600 for the kit.
now bear in mind the disco is over 5k lbs, it has a v8 and an auto tranny. this puts more strain on the drive train than a 3k lb rig with a 4cyl (toyota). this limits the tire size you can get away with on the rover.
poss upgrades to the rover axle:
1. cromoly rear shafts
2. hypoid gears in the 4.7/1 range instead of the helical 3.54s factory.
3. cromoly inner shafts for the front with heat treated birfields.
these are the first level of strength increase. these you can comfortably run 33" tires and maybe scate by on 35s, although i doubt anyone here would reccomend them. also the lift is irrelevant. a 2" lift would suffice, but fender trimming with a sawzall is the best first bet.
next:
4. toyota fj 80 third member swap and coromoly toy type axles with cromoly birfs from bobby long.
aaron t 11-12-2004, 08:04 PM .....whewww.......
ok next,
5. you can straight swap the whole set of axles from an fj 80 (my personnal plan) these are cool because they have 4.10 gears and e-lockers factory and a high pinion front third :smokin:
6. the one most of the guys here have done salisbury rear (it is a one ton rear end that looks just like a dana 60 with a pumpkin on the right side and it bolts right under a disco. then for the front end you can find the one ton rover front from a fc 101 (hard to get here).
or
7. full set of dana 60s, something you will want to do if you want to comfortably run 38s or so. this will require a lot of fab work.
aaron t 11-12-2004, 08:08 PM ok,
so pros for a disco axle
1. full floating
2. disc brakes front and rear.
3. right side offset pumkins
bad sides of disco axles
1. about as strong as a good dana35
2. birfields
3. right side offset pumkins :D
hopefully you or someone reads this and gets some use out of this.
aaron
Tom Houston 11-12-2004, 11:34 PM You guys laugh but a SERIOUS wheeling buddy couldn't make a run because his trial rig was down. He showed up in his DD, a Discovery. It was probably more good driving than rig, but he took that thing over shit you wouldn't believe. Sure shut up a few folks that didn't make it with their built rigs.
Is it the ideal trail rig. No way. Can you have fun if you know what you are doing, yes. Sometimes we get too hung up on having the badest rig, and forget the pure pleasure of pushing the limits, no matter what rig you run.
I guess I remember fondly when 31's were considered radical. I sure spent a lot less time fixing busted stuff back then.
Lord Orange 11-13-2004, 12:53 AM I had a guy tell me that my scout II is a real 4x4 and my 4runner was just a toy. He also said, "The Rover could do it", "look at my 1/2 inch thick aluminum skid plates", "1/4 inch rock sliders", "my 31 inch tires work it."
He was one of the most cockiest guys that I knew of, so proud of his discovery. But you have to remember a Land Rover is a "trail rig" not a extreme rock crawler (with a lot of money and time it is possible). It is a plush type 4x4, like the toyota Land Cruiser, the comfort ride and alot of money.
I had another guy that had a d-90 on 37s, arb's, upgraded birfields, right hand drive, more than 20k into it, etc. We had to do a rescue because he blew up both R&P up. Then again the breakage can happend to any rig at any time but they got too heavy. Both of them.
aaron t 11-14-2004, 12:00 AM :confused: i think he left anyway. too bad.
or not :flipoff2:
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