Maybe I missed it, but did you end up notching the frame for shackle travel up front? If so, do you have pics? The project is really looking good. Can't wait to see wheeling pics.

Not sure if you have enough room behind the dash for it but a Pelican case makes a wonderful waterproof box for the ECU.

Sweet buildup, by the way! Makes me yearn for one as my daily commuter.

what's the arb compressor for, why not run it off the powertank? just curious..

Maybe I missed it, but did you end up notching the frame for shackle travel up front? If so, do you have pics? The project is really looking good. Can't wait to see wheeling pics.

It's so close to call, we just don't know yet. Right now when we flex the truck, the shackles are not hitting the frame, but it's so close you can hardly get a credit card between the frame and the leaf spring. We are going to wait until after it's first run to see if we can gain any travel by doing the notching to the frame. At this point the frame is unnotched and the bumpstops are limiting the travel.

what's the arb compressor for, why not run it off the powertank? just curious..

Yes we could, but I was not planning to have the Power Tank on board during competition. We will use the compressor as the primary air for the front locker. The Power Tank will be used for adjusting/filling tires and power tools on the trail.

Well we can't get the truck running. We are having some major problems with LC Engineering and the EFI computer. According to LC unless you go with the full $1400 system with the coils you have to run the stock computer and/or use an after market system like MSD. So now we are packing it up the computer kit and overnighting it to canada (at our cost) so we can get it exchanged for the full kit. The info we received from the sale guy was BS. Just a warning. If you don't use the full $1400 kit be prepared to keep the original computer and try to find some way to get it to work with the new computer.

We thought we would be able to start the truck today but now we have to start over from scratch on the computer and harness.

If we don't get the right computer back in a couple of days we are going to ditch the LC setup and just use a stock computer and harness.

that sucks, i was considering the route you guys took to clean up my harness but i guess not now. im just not a big electrical guy and am afraid to start cutting into my harness since it runs fine now.

good luck and hope you guys get it rollin for the jambo

Well we can't get the truck running. We are having some major problems with LC Engineering and the EFI computer. According to LC unless you go with the full $1400 system with the coils you have to run the stock computer and/or use an after market system like MSD. So now we are packing it up the computer kit and overnighting it to canada (at our cost) so we can get it exchanged for the full kit. The info we received from the sale guy was BS. Just a warning. If you don't use the full $1400 kit be prepared to keep the original computer and try to find some way to get it to work with the new computer.

We thought we would be able to start the truck today but now we have to start over from scratch on the computer and harness.

If we don't get the right computer back in a couple of days we are going to ditch the LC setup and just use a stock computer and harness.

you'll need to use a vacum advance distrubutor off of a carb truck, along with a coil and ignitor off of the same truck. that should be all you need.

the cheaper SDS kit is a fuel only system. the stock EFI ECU controls both fuel AND spark. the more expensive SDS uses individual coil packs and a crank trigger for spark. You do gain some HP from the individual coil packs and a crank trigger, but its hard to say if its worth the extra $400 or whatever it is.

a dizzy, coil and ignitor off of a carb truck will take care of the spark, and the SDS kit will take care of the fuel.

or. you could try to integrate it with the stock ECU to control spark, but that is pointless, it'd just be a mess of wires again.

If you guys want to go with the stock system, let me know, I can set you up with a striped down harness, like i did for Re:Todd and Aaron's rig.

The new computer and coil assembly came in and Mike spent a few hours plugging it in. The used starter we found in the back yard did not work. After replacing the starter with starter that Marlin rebuit the motor fired up at 10 PM tuesday night.

By the way thanks for the offer to build a striped harness. I am glad someone is offering to build these. I did this on my last buggy and spent many many hours gettin that harness right.

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Today custom power steering hoses were connected between the box and pump.

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We were planning to use a samurai radiator but some at the shop believed this was just going to be too small to get the job done. A new custom sized radiator is currently being made.

CJ gets the honor of being the first to drive the buggy.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/266.jpg

Just a quick check of the tcase, trans brakes to make sure all is well.
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Now the truck is on it's way to have the aluminum body panels cut and installed.

nice work :beer:

down boy.. down..
is CJ the employee of the month or something??

Chris, did you end up using the seat sliders in that thing? Looks like you have plenty of head room in that thing.

Any reason why the brake lines go to the center on the front axle of the buggy vs comming up outside the frame?

This thing going to be at the Jamboree? If so, what trail are you running with it?

Chris, did you end up using the seat sliders in that thing? Looks like you have plenty of head room in that thing.


Yes we did end up with a seat sliders on the driver side. We have a lot of sifferent drivers. Rocky is short at about 5' 6", and Marlin is 6' 6". This slider will let of move the seat forward and back like a regular car seat.

Next years rules are going to require a 3" gap between the driver helmet and the lowest bar. We will have no problem with that.

Marlin is 6' 6".
Now there is some interesting trivia! I did not know that.

Next years rules are going to require a 3" gap between the driver helmet and the lowest bar. We will have no problem with that.

Says who?

This thing going to be at the Jamboree? If so, what trail are you running with it?

If we can get all the finishing touches on there before time is up we will get it out there. Rocking will be driving saturday, I don't know what trail yet. I'll be driving Sunday in the competition.

Hey Chris, what fittings did you use to connect the celica fuel pump to the fuel hose and what side hose are you running? Also how loud is the pump?

Celica external fuel pump...
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so how much does one of these cost turn key?

im going to have to start saving up :cool2:

so how much does one of these cost turn key?

im going to have to start saving up :cool2:

Turn key? :laughing: As far as I know nobody is building turn key F-toys :shaking:

Turn key? :laughing: As far as I know nobody is building turn key F-toys :shaking:



I think JC might do it for him. :flipoff2:

darn :confused:

Contact JCA here on the board. He might have an idea.

so how much does one of these cost turn key?

im going to have to start saving up :cool2:

Not sure. Depends on what all you want, i.e., Hydro assist or no Hydro? 30 splines? new, or used parts? EFI or Carbed? Bling or no Bling? Fresh or as is engine & tranny? etc. The sky is the limit :eek: :D
If I was to do another one, It'd have a fresh motor & tranny and have all the Bling and could go for 20K or more. However it'd be cleaner and better than the first one I built.

I've been tempted to do one or two but not till after I build my new shop/addition this summer. Kinda funny, today a guy just sold me a running 85 that he had just rolled last week. Fell asleep at the wheel. It has some road rash and a busted windshield. Other than that, it only looks like some newbie took it up Wrecking Ball :eek: So now I have another running donner rig for a turn key FT ;) Potentially next winter's project :D


Edit: Ooops, I think we just Hyjacked this thread :eek: Sorry :p

Turn key? :laughing: As far as I know nobody is building turn key F-toys :shaking:

To create something along the lines of what is shown here in this thread would cost around $35K

For sheet metal work we went to a long time industry pro Ed Datin. Ed, the owner of Datin Fabrication in Hemet CA, has put aluminum skins on literally hundreds of race trucks over the years and has all the tools to make them fast and easy. It took Ed and I two full days to make and mount 24 panels.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/270.jpg

Starting with construction paper, Ed cuts out patterns for each panel.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/271.jpg

Each paper pattern is layed out on large 8' X 12' sheets of .050" thick aluminum. The patterns are traced and cut from the sheets.

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The panels are test fit in place and adjustments made as needed.

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For holes, special punches are used to pop holes into the aluminum with out the problems coused by hole saws.

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Cutting wheels and auger bits are used to open up slots for seat belts mounts.

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Dzus fasteners are used in the corners of most of the panels to allow for easy removal and installation. Dzus fasteners allow for fast/easy removal of panels when needed.

On the floor and firewall pop rivets and sheet metal screws will be used when we are ready for the final assembly.

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http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/281.jpg

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For holes, special punches are used to pop holes into the aluminum with out the problems coused by hole saws.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/276.jpg


Are you guys going to flare/bell the holes? It makes for a much stiffer panel and reduces vibration/rattle. It's worth making the simple tool on a lathe!

The only panel with holes in the center console. This panel is so small it's not worth the bother. It may also interfere with the boots that go on later.

Not sure. Depends on what all you want, i.e., Hydro assist or no Hydro? 30 splines? new, or used parts? EFI or Carbed? Bling or no Bling? Fresh or as is engine & tranny? etc. The sky is the limit :eek: :D
If I was to do another one, It'd have a fresh motor & tranny and have all the Bling and could go for 20K or more. However it'd be cleaner and better than the first one I built.

I've been tempted to do one or two but not till after I build my new shop/addition this summer. Kinda funny, today a guy just sold me a running 85 that he had just rolled last week. Fell asleep at the wheel. It has some road rash and a busted windshield. Other than that, it only looks like some newbie took it up Wrecking Ball :eek: So now I have another running donner rig for a turn key FT ;) Potentially next winter's project :D


Edit: Ooops, I think we just Hyjacked this thread :eek: Sorry :p


#29 will roll out of the shop right at $17K (sorry about screwing your thread up Chris, just thought some of the new F-toy people would like to know what they are getting into as far as cost)

i rolled out at 2k + doner truck

As long as it's FT related, I consider it on topic!

do you have a picture of the underside of the brownish piece in that punch setup? it looks pretty simple...

Photos on demand...

Photos on demand...

That is a bit simpler than I had imagined, sweet ass tool! :flipoff2:

you can get at rental houses or electrical supply co. We use it in the electric industry for electrical panel knockouts to fish wires through. typically goes up to 4".
Simple knockout set. Does make some clean punches.

Andy built the exhaust system and has mounted it up as high as possible. Heat wrap is used under the floor near the drivers feet to keep the heat under control. The muffler is mounted above the rear diff to try to protect it. The muffler is free flowing as few bends as possible. The muffler keeps the rig as quite as a stock truck.

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Rocky and Andy created a winch mount by welding a plate in-between the radiator mount rails.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/287.jpg

The winch we are using is the new light weight 9.0R Warn winch. This light weight winch is just 58 lbs with the controller. It's spool holds 50' of 3/8 line. Winch line is on order from Rockstomper and should arrive soon.
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The red color will make a good match with the side panels!
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Rocky drives up and down behind the shop. During the test we found that the Samurai radiator is not going to be big enough. It just can't keep the motor cool enough. Most of the panel work still has not been installed but it's coming together.

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This weekend Marlin is planning to take the buggy to "Cruise Moab". In order to allow the truck to run cooler Angelo and I ripped out the undersized radiator and replaced it with a larger one we had at the shop. This will larger radiator will serve temporary duty until a custom aluminum radiator is built.

Marlin wants to hammer on the latest version of his Front/All/Rear transfer case so the prototype tcase and rear turning brakes were installed for some weekend testing.

Damn...that's a good looking FT!!

Marlin wants to hammer on the latest version of his Front/All/Rear transfer case so the prototype tcase and rear turning brakes were installed for some weekend testing.

Not only that its going to be a super ftoy for the weekend with the cutting brakes and the front dig. Gieger could he make sure to take some vid and/or pics of the ftoy in its role of super mod comp buggy for the weekend?

Before it was loaded up I took a spin in it and did a front burn. It worked flawlessly. To get more rear breaking our of the drums, larger 1" rear cylinders were used from a 1991 FJ80 land cruiser. These larger wheel cycinders allow each rear wheel to be easily locked up.

Marlin took off for Moab last night at 10:00 pm and should arrive this afternoon. Marlin is taking his camera and will be getting photos!

do you have a picture of the underside of the brownish piece in that punch setup? it looks pretty simple...
You can buy them from Bay Tool & Supply in Milpitas (408) 383-9266 ask for Andy
Greenlee 1/2"-2" Ratchet KO Set $229.80
Greenlee 1/2"-2" Hydraulic KO Set $718.00
Greenlee 1/2"-4" Hydraulic KO Set $1170.00

I just wanted to say that the boys at marlin's shop really outdid themselves on this rig. It's a god damn work of art.. Congrats gentlemen

Make sure to put up some vids of it getting hammered.

Right on! Looks great guys

Looking good chris, Ed is the man. Maybe someday will be able to afford to have him work on my junk. :flipoff2:


When are you guys bringing that beast to the hammers.

Marlin, Rocky, Dean, and Andy just got back from Moab and Marlin took a few photos of the Formula Toy...

http://www.marlincrawler.com/images/0501.jpg

http://www.marlincrawler.com/events/2005_curise_moab/images/img_0473.jpg

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When are you guys bringing that beast to the hammers.

We will be at JV in 2 weeks at the CalRocs event at Cougar Buttes, May 21 & 22.

Cool pics, love how it turned out.

So how did it do?

Cool pics, love how it turned out.

So how did it do?

There were some minor problems. The alternator died and the new thermostat went south. Other than that, they reported everything worked just well. Still need to finish up some items, but what they had worked.

Man that thing turned out nice, probably the cleanest formula toy ive seen. Cant wate to see more pics of that thing in action...

i thought i saw that on my way home from cruise. were you guys in denver?

i thought i saw that on my way home from cruise. were you guys in denver?

Yes it was at Cruise Moab, see photos above from the event.

i saw it heading west on i-70 just out side Denver. maybe it was another one?

i saw it heading west on i-70 just out side Denver. maybe it was another one?

Marlin was picking up some core parts in Denver while he was out there.

Marlin was picking up some core parts in Denver while he was out there.
cool.

From possibly the yota yard or the toy tranny doctor?

gotha that makes sence know.

There has been much debate at the shop as to what lockers to run in the buggy. Some here want Detroit's front and rear because they don't require turning on and off. Others want the ARB's for better turning ability. Currently we have a compromise with an ARB in the front and a Detroit in the rear. A rear ARB won't help much with the steering, but in front it will allow the truck to turn tighter. To operate the front locker we wanted a easy to reach/operate switch. In big trucks, 2 speed rear diffs are a common. It just so happens that Angelo use to work a big rig repair depot. So when I asked Angelo if he could get one of those shifter mounted switches, he knew exactly were to get it. Within minutes, Angelo returned with the switch and a short harness to connect it to our harness. The 2 speed switch is made by Eaton, part #032861. The Harness is made by Cole Hersee and is part #40102. Here is a photo of the switch.

In this position the switch is very easy to operate. Up for on and down for off.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/296.jpg

Is Andy going to fab a 100 MPH mount for that switch so you can git rid of the zip ties?

Is Andy going to fab a 100 MPH mount for that switch so you can git rid of the zip ties?

We have one or order that is designed to fit, the zip ties are temporary.

Very sweet Chris. Now I want one :smokin:



... that switch is PIMP :grinpimp:

Today after work I installed some square tubing to act as supports for the side panels...

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/298.jpg

CJ, cut out some expended metal for the floors...

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expanded metal...must be nice to live somewhere where its never muddy :)

I wanted to run expanded metal in my old buggy and planned on cutting out some thin rubber floor mats for the wet muddy days up. just might have to try it in my formula.

This weekend was the first time I was able to see the rig in person. All I can say is very nice job guys!!!

Got anymore pics of the finished interior?

We will be at JV in 2 weeks at the CalRocs event at Cougar Buttes, May 21 & 22.

Any pictures from this event???

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/296.jpg

And its going to have the Marlin logo on it and be avaiable when??

Any pictures from this event???http://www.off-road.com/rock/2005calrocs/may05/

And its going to have the Marlin logo on it and be avaiable when??

ahhh, give me a few minutes and I will see what I can do...

Hey Chris, When I was there today i noticed a different radiator in the F-toy than the Sammy unit you had. What is it from and does it keep it cool enough?

And its going to have the Marlin logo on it and be avaiable when??

Ok we have ordered a few of these for stock and should have them in a few days. No zip ties, they will have a nice clamp on mount. Sorry no Marlin logo! I will post up prices and availability soon.

Hey Chris, When I was there today i noticed a different radiator in the F-toy than the Sammy unit you had. What is it from and does it keep it cool enough?

The Sammy unit was just not big enough to the job. After looking through every radiator the book, I decided that a custom shape was the only way to go. I found the 4L Jeep radiator was the right height but too wide. I took it down and had about 9" of width removed from it. Even after being cut, it was still a lot larger Samurai core we had tried. No there is no overheating problem at all.

Any plans for the f-toy this winter?

Any plans for the f-toy this winter?

Well I no longer work at Marlin Crawler and am now working for Trail-Gear Inc. I am sure that the Marlin crew will be getting the buggy out when every they get the chance. It's fun ride!

Matt's got his own Formula Toy #29

http://www.trail-gear.com/bbs/shopfun.jpg

Well I no longer work at Marlin Crawler and am now working for Trail-Gear Inc.

Is there a thread that explains what happened?

Well I no longer work at Marlin Crawler and am now working for Trail-Gear Inc. I am sure that the Marlin crew will be getting the buggy out when every they get the chance. It's fun ride!

Matt's got his own Formula Toy #29

http://www.trail-gear.com/bbs/shopfun.jpg
did i miss a f-toy buildup? specs? any other pics of it other than "poser" side hilling? any flex shots? wheeling shots? c-mon chris, don't just tease us.
mike

Is there a thread that explains what happened?

chris wants to grow, develop and create a huge toyota 4wd business and marlin is comfy with the smaller ''family'' run deal hes got. chris' efforts brought marlins company from nearly folding to, IMO, the best toy aftermarket company on the planet(for rockcrawlers).

hopefully, chris' new venture wont squeeze marlin back into the position he was previously before...

did i miss a f-toy buildup? specs? any other pics of it other than "poser" side hilling? any flex shots? wheeling shots? c-mon chris, don't just tease us.
mike


His screen name was Ace Cage-29. Pretty sure there was a buildup?

His screen name was Ace Cage-29. Pretty sure there was a buildup?
didn't realize the screen name, thanx wilson.

chris wants to grow, develop and create a huge toyota 4wd business and marlin is comfy with the smaller ''family'' run deal hes got. chris' efforts brought marlins company from nearly folding to, IMO, the best toy aftermarket company on the planet(for rockcrawlers).

hopefully, chris' new venture wont squeeze marlin back into the position he was previously before...
i may be wrong, but, booger, didn't marlin sell and become a corp.? seems to me that chris wants to single handedly trying to turn the small toyota rock crawling company's (one small company at a time) into the great company's that marlin became. :flipoff2:




but i am drunk so i prolly don't know what i am talking about.

Hope all works out well for both Marlin and Trail Gear.

Does Marlin have a representative on this board anymore? How are we gonna get updates on this kickass f-toy?

i may be wrong, but, booger, didn't marlin sell and become a corp.? seems to me that chris wants to single handedly trying to turn the small toyota rock crawling company's (one small company at a time) into the great company's that marlin became. :flipoff2:




but i am drunk so i prolly don't know what i am talking about.

Both the thread here about Chris no longer working for MC and the thread on Marlin's board about selling the business, then not selling it, then Chris telling Marlin he was going to do photography and turning up at trail Gear mysteriously disappeared. :rolleyes

Nice, I see that you are running propane... How do you like it? Did you get that from "Got Propane.com"? I am thinking of running it myself, please let me know if you like it...

did i miss a f-toy buildup? specs? any other pics of it other than "poser" side hilling? any flex shots? wheeling shots? c-mon chris, don't just tease us.
mike

Here is the build up thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=311118

Nice, I see that you are running propane... How do you like it? Did you get that from "Got Propane.com"? I am thinking of running it myself, please let me know if you like it...


The propane kit works extremely well and yes I purchased it from Got Propane. The kit installed in just a few hours. I will never go back to EFI or Carb. Give Carey a call at Got Propane, he will take good care of you.

Matt

"Trail-Gear is the originator of forged high steer arms for Toyota Pickups and 4Runners." How's that? Marlin Crawler was selling these arms before TG even existed.

Edit: I'm not trying to start shit, it's just a question.

Ooooo. I got some popcorn ready for this.

I think we need a montage :laughing:

Ooooo. I got some popcorn ready for this.

I think we need a montage :laughing:



I agree, but start up a new thread, whereas this build-up thread has been awesome.

"Trail-Gear is the originator of forged high steer arms for Toyota Pickups and 4Runners." How's that? Marlin Crawler was selling these arms before TG even existed.


where do you think marlin was getting the arms from?

Trail-Gear Forged High Steer Arms and steering components are sold through a number of retail outlets.

Does Marlin have a representative on this board anymore? How are we gonna get updates on this kickass f-toy?





Yes Marlin Crawler has 5 reps here. Marlin, CruzrDave, shadycrawler, crazywb, 4thewkn. We will be taking the buggy to JV for new years.

"Trail-Gear is the originator of forged high steer arms for Toyota Pickups and 4Runners." How's that? Marlin Crawler was selling these arms before TG even existed.

Some People just have to start crap without knowing the facts. Do you really think Marlin makes every part he sells?

When did MC start selling forged arms?
Were the manufacturered by Di-Pro?
When was Trail Gear founded?

Some People just have to start crap without knowing the facts. Do you really think Marlin makes every part he sells?

X2

The ARB compressor on the buggy was submerged under water at the Round up. So, we’re taking the ARB out of the front and installing a HP Detroit. The rear end has a Detroit but we are going to install a spool. We also have to change one of the knuckles out. The buggy was ran hard and put away wet:flipoff2:

Hey Dave, Thanks for stepping up and getting this thread back on track.

We will be taking the buggy to JV for new years.


So are we going to get to see the "Dean and Dave show". :D

I think that people inquiring about trail gear need to take it out of this post. I think it is pretty crappy for business owners from another company, specially a new company to come into a tread and hyjack it by posting pics of there formula toy and promoting their company. This is a buildup thread nothing more.

The ARB compressor on the buggy was submerged under water at the Round up. So, we’re taking the ARB out of the front and installing a HP Detroit. The rear end has a Detroit but we are going to install a spool. We also have to change one of the knuckles out. The buggy was ran hard and put away wet:flipoff2:

Think I got a couple of shots of that :D Chris's kid took 'er into to the deep end of the crossing at Dirty Dozens
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I think that people inquiring about trail gear need to take it out of this post. I think it is pretty crappy for business owners from another company, specially a new company to come into a tread and hyjack it by posting pics of there formula toy and promoting their company. This is a buildup thread nothing more.

X2


Hope you are happy with out the ARB up front. The spool out back on the F-toy is probly a good idea, but I think I'd still keep the ARB up front even if it did mean replacement parts. Still a great looking rig!

Any plans for the f-toy this winter?

Yeah, lots of plans for the f-toy this year, the guys at Marlins are really excited about getting her out, running trails and attending as many events as they can, a couple of people wanting to drive in different events, it should be fun.

The ARB compressor on the buggy was submerged under water at the Round up. So, we’re taking the ARB out of the front and installing a HP Detroit. The rear end has a Detroit but we are going to install a spool. We also have to change one of the knuckles out. The buggy was ran hard and put away wet:flipoff2:

Thats why I have a hose running from my CO2 tank to the were the compressor is mounted. If the compressor takes a shit I can just hookup the lines and run the ARB off the CO2 tank :smokin: The line is not hooked to the CO2 tank all the time , only if the compressor fails , and that hasn't happened yet...........................................knoc k on wood.

Wow Chris, Rocky has grown! last time I'd seen him was in early 2001. and he was just a kid.

Marlin, CJ and Tim took the buggy out to Congress, AZ this weekend of Put up or Shut up. We placed 18th. of 21 spots. CJ was driver and Tim was the spotter. They picked up 260 points. Not to bad for running a leaf spring Toyota frame against custom tub buggies with air shocks. There were only two Formula Toy rigs in the competition. The other F-Toy added 61 more points putting them at 20th. Place.

Good Job CJ and Tim!

Marlin, CJ and Tim took the buggy out to Congress, AZ this weekend of Put up or Shut up. We placed 18th. of 21 spots. CJ was driver and Tim was the spotter. They picked up 260 points. Not to bad for running a leaf spring Toyota frame against custom tub buggies with air shocks. There were only two Formula Toy rigs in the competition. The other F-Toy added 61 more points putting them at 20th. Place.

Good Job CJ and Tim!

Good to hear Guys! What did you guys end up running for a rear locker?

Right on CJ and Tim, Good Job!

Candy :rasta:

Marlin, CJ and Tim took the buggy out to Congress, AZ this weekend of Put up or Shut up. We placed 18th. of 21 spots. CJ was driver and Tim was the spotter. They picked up 260 points. Not to bad for running a leaf spring Toyota frame against custom tub buggies with air shocks. There were only two Formula Toy rigs in the competition. The other F-Toy added 61 more points putting them at 20th. Place.

Good Job CJ and Tim!

Nice job! Any carnage? The courses looked brutal , but fun.
Looking foward to seeing you guys at the comps!

Marlin, CJ and Tim took the buggy out to Congress, AZ this weekend of Put up or Shut up. We placed 18th. of 21 spots. CJ was driver and Tim was the spotter. They picked up 260 points. Not to bad for running a leaf spring Toyota frame against custom tub buggies with air shocks. There were only two Formula Toy rigs in the competition. The other F-Toy added 61 more points putting them at 20th. Place.

Good Job CJ and Tim!


CJ and Tim rocked this weekend. It was great to see them out there.

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Anyone take photos?

I saw a picture of it hanging from the crane.

Just about everyone got a crane ride.

Props to the marlin crew! You guy's did a great job with your F-toy build and the event. I really liked getting a chance to see your rig in person. Especially after following the build. You guy's have me all spun up. I think I'm going to tear down my trail rig and make an F-toy. I already have all the parts, just need the chassis.

Rear Leaf Springs Mounts

Next measured 6.5" up and forward of the factory bolts and marked the frame. Then I placed the tubing on the frame and centered the hangers front to back and left to right. Next I tacked the tubing to the frame and rechecked the position of the hangers.
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I am getting started on my frame soon and was wondering why you went forward with the spring mount. Do I need to go forward with it or can I go just up and in from the stock mount?

I'm guessing they used rear leaves that were longer than stock. For example, for a stock rear axle location, a 3rd gen has leaves that are 3-4" longer than 1st-2nd gen rears. The 3rd gen shackle hanger sits 2" farther back, and the frameside spring hanger has a hole about 1" farther forward than the 1st-2nd gens.

People have used 54-56-57" springs; you need to place your hangers and shackle hangers according to where you want your spring center pin over your axle.

Have all your parts ready and then start measuring, cutting, and welding.

I'm guessing they used rear leaves that were longer than stock. For example, for a stock rear axle location, a 3rd gen has leaves that are 3-4" longer than 1st-2nd gen rears. The 3rd gen shackle hanger sits 2" farther back, and the frameside spring hanger has a hole about 1" farther forward than the 1st-2nd gens.

People have used 54-56-57" springs; you need to place your hangers and shackle hangers according to where you want your spring center pin over your axle.

Have all your parts ready and then start measuring, cutting, and welding.

That is exactly why:D good job.

gotcha, I was thinking all toy rear springs were the same length. thanks.

On this project we have and will do some different and creative things but I think this one is the most controversial of them all. The rules state that the radiator must be in front of the motor. The rules do not say how large the radiator needs to be. We don't want the top of the radiator above the front cage tube going around the engine. We also don't want it go below the frame or we will have interference with the pitman arm. Mounting our steering box inside the frame rail further reduces the space we have available for the radiator. We had originally planned to have a custom radiator made to fit the tight space but looking through a Modine catalog we found a good fit. This is a 3 row upgrade from a factory 2 core radiator for a Suzuki Samurai. Sitting next to the stock Toyota radiator on the right, it looks more like a heater core! Dean placed a call to a good friend that works at a radiator shop and he explained what we were planning to do. He gave us an interesting formula. He said that a typical 3 row radiator will cool an engine equivalent to the surface area of the core. This radiator has a surface area of 13" X 13" or 169 square inches. Using this formula, this radiator will provide cooling for up a maximum engine size of 169 cubic inches (normally aspirated). Our stock 22re is 147 cubic inches. If we were planning to hook a trailer up to this truck and drive it full throttle up the grapevine on a hot day, I think we would see some serious overheating. However in this application we have a well ventilated engine bay and won't be using full throttle for more than a few minutes at a time so I believe with the help of a 12+" electric fan we will have sufficient cooling. This new 3 row unit cost just $109. We also like that it has an auto tranny cooler on the bottom that we can use to cool our power steering system with.

http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/modine.gif

Samurai radiator on the left and the Toyota radiator on the right.
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Test fitting in the chassis..
http://www.marlincrawler.com/ftoy/148.jpg

Is this rig still running the aftermarket Sami radiator? Any cooling issues?

Last I heard, this thing was overheating with that radiator. I think they switched back to a toy radiator. But I could be wrong.

Is this rig still running the aftermarket Sami radiator? Any cooling issues?

Looking for a radiator? Click on the radiator link in my sig line. Very nice and affordable. Gary will make any size you want. Tell him John @ Alpine sent you.:D

im stoked to finally find the build up on this rig... ive been looking all over the MC board and havent found it... i cant wait to read it and see what all went into it