I have been trying to find more info on the new 2003 Rubicon edition Wrangler, like when it will be available and how much it will cost. If they are available and priced resonably (<$25000) I think I will have to get one. Please share any info you have!

P.S. I know real jeeps are built and not bought, but I already have the "built" rig, it's a straight axle 94 toyota with one ton chevy running gear. I just like to have a somewhat capable daily driver that I don't have to wrench on all the time!

Call a dealer:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

bet it will be more than $25,000 and other high fees like:
insurance- banks will require comprehensive
tags will be $300-$400 first year
big payments for 5 years
lots of loan interest

i might wait a year after they come out and see how they rate. also could buy a used one that some guy has to bail on the payments. you know new cars depriciate a few grand right out the showroom floor:)

Dealer is of less than no help. They know lots about the Jeep Liberty and how nice it rides on the highway but nothing about the Rubicon.


If it is more than $25,000 it is too much and I probably wont buy one. Before I bought my Tacoma I looked at regular wranglers and loaded ones with hard top and 6cyl were going for less than $20,000 so if they want more than $5000 for the Rubicon package it's a joke. Toyota only adds like $1500 for the TRD package. I guess we'll see.

I've never seen a loaded NEW Wrangler for $20,000... I had a friend buy a loaded, but soft-top 2000 model for $24,000...

Good Luck finding the Rubicon for <25,000

[edit] I went here Kelly Blue Book (http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.sp?kbb.TX;992786&79416;suv&353;Jeep;2002%20Wrangler;M1 8M4A6&configure_frames) and configured a "loaded" wrangler... I came up with $24, 010. Yes you could take some of the options off, but the original statement said "loaded wrangler."

Originally posted by HammerDown
I have been trying to find more info on the new 2003 Rubicon edition Wrangler, like when it will be available and how much it will cost. If they are available and priced resonably (<$25000) I think I will have to get one. Please share any info you have!

P.S. I know real jeeps are built and not bought, but I already have the "built" rig, it's a straight axle 94 toyota with one ton chevy running gear. I just like to have a somewhat capable daily driver that I don't have to wrench on all the time!

Oh yeah, GET REAL!!! :flipoff2: What are you :smokin:

I paid $25,000 for the 2000 TJ with 30" tires, D30 and D35, Hard top, Auto, and a 6. :D

Now I have added the RE 5.5 lift, and Atlas II, 36" TSL SX's, other crap (CB, yada yada) and it is now at $7,000 without 44's and lockers.:rasta:

If it costs $35K, grab it and don't look back!!!:flipoff2:

Hammerdown, your "built" rig isnt built if you have to wrench it all the time, it's building. If you plan a rig right then carry through on your plans, you wont have to wrench all the time. Think what you could make that Toy into if you put 35k into it - or 20k and the other 15k into a reliable daily driver. Why any serious trail rider would pay 35k for a new rubicon is beyond me, I think they're intended more for the wealthy trail-image crowd. I'll wait and buy it with 60k on it when mr countryclub gets scared away cuz there's a noise in the front axle for the first time (not that he has any idea where the front axle is).

Not to bring religion into this and its not because I am Jewish....

Do you all pay retail??????

My 99' Dual top, auto, dana 44, 4.0, block heater (No a/c though) TJ did sticker at 23k walked out the door paying 19.5k

ADD... Atlas, driveshafts, reverse cut front 9" with arb, rear detroit= about 8k (of course I have lots more goodies, but I am including just the stuff to make it comparable to a rubicon)

Total 27.5k.... I'll bet money that the Rubicon is in the 23-28k ballpark...


My opinion certainely doesn't mean much though.....

Originally posted by 92xj
Hammerdown, your "built" rig isnt built if you have to wrench it all the time, it's building. If you plan a rig right then carry through on your plans, you wont have to wrench all the time. Think what you could make that Toy into if you put 35k into it - or 20k and the other 15k into a reliable daily driver. Why any serious trail rider would pay 35k for a new rubicon is beyond me, I think they're intended more for the wealthy trail-image crowd. I'll wait and buy it with 60k on it when mr countryclub gets scared away cuz there's a noise in the front axle for the first time (not that he has any idea where the front axle is).

Hey, who aksed the Newbie for his $.02? :flipoff2: BTW: Welcome:flipoff2: now shut until we want something, then I 'll send Cutter over to beat out of you. He is used to beating things off you know...:flipoff2:

I have a Tacoma for a daily driver now and I was thinking I might replace it with the Rubicon when it comes out. $35k in my 94 yota would be sweet but I need a daily driver because driving a toyota with full width axles and boggers on the street is frowned upon by the local law enforment plus it gets about 8mpg and I drive about 400 miles a week.

Originally posted by 92xj
Hammerdown, your "built" rig isnt built if you have to wrench it all the time, it's building. If you plan a rig right then carry through on your plans, you wont have to wrench all the time. Think what you could make that Toy into if you put 35k into it - or 20k and the other 15k into a reliable daily driver. Why any serious trail rider would pay 35k for a new rubicon is beyond me, I think they're intended more for the wealthy trail-image crowd. I'll wait and buy it with 60k on it when mr countryclub gets scared away cuz there's a noise in the front axle for the first time (not that he has any idea where the front axle is).

Originally posted by apeters89
I've never seen a loaded NEW Wrangler for $20,000... I had a friend buy a loaded, but soft-top 2000 model for $24,000...

Good Luck finding the Rubicon for <25,000

[edit] I went here Kelly Blue Book (http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.sp?kbb.TX;992786&79416;suv&353;Jeep;2002%20Wrangler;M1 8M4A6&configure_frames) and configured a "loaded" wrangler... I came up with $24, 010. Yes you could take some of the options off, but the original statement said "loaded wrangler."

You remind me of an old saying "A fool and his money shall soon part"

I ordered my TJ from Chysler loaded with every option available for $19.7 so wake up ya big dummy :flipoff2: .

Thanks for the welcome madman. That didnt hurt so much (flame suit ZIP ZIP BUCKLE SNAP).

People that bash the rubicon are weak.It will be the BEST factory 4X4 ever offered period.
rubicon bashers daydream:

Give me mine wit some dumbo monster mudderrrrrrs and how bouts one o those 750 double pumperrrrrrs.Oh yeah I wont dem leafer springs to.How much lift will tha optional airrrrr shox gimmie ?freind o mine works at a muffler shope gonna weld me up a cage w/exhaust tubin...gonna cut that dern cadillac converter off to.Got a couple ah comerlongs and a chain and 6 lights fer tha windshield 2 fer tha hood 2 fer tha fenders and 4 more fer tha wrecker truck bumper imagonna put on it .gotta git rido that 4whl disc and 4:1 lo-range what tha hell is it?HAIR lockers wtf, cut tha lines and gimmie my torch imma gonna weldem up.I wanta slip yoke damit...crazy fool injection git it outta here(see above)


:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: Gimmie my:beer: damit

Originally posted by KeithF
You remind me of an old saying "A fool and his money shall soon part"

I ordered my TJ from Chysler loaded with every option available for $19.7 so wake up ya big dummy :flipoff2: .


I never said that I was going to buy a :jeep: for that much money... I just said that this is what it lists for on Kelly Blue Book.

besides, I'm just a poor college student, I don't have any money to part with... foolish or not. :flipoff2:

So.... Why, when the Libby came out, it was bashed as being a less capable wheeler and now, with the Rubby comming out, it is being bashed as a more capable wheeler.

Ugg :rolleyes: cant please anyone, ever :rolleyes:

i bought a brand new 02 sport back in sept 01. it has hard and soft tops both with tinted windows, ac, cruise control, auto, 4.0, d44, 3.73 gears, 30 inch tires yada yada yada. it has everything and i paid 25k for it the rubican will be 30k easy unless they make them with out all the bells and whistles

Originally posted by Mr.RatBastard
People that bash the rubicon are weak.It will be the BEST factory 4X4 ever offered period.
rubicon bashers daydream:

Give me mine wit some dumbo monster mudderrrrrrs and how bouts one o those 750 double pumperrrrrrs.Oh yeah I wont dem leafer springs to.How much lift will tha optional airrrrr shox gimmie ?freind o mine works at a muffler shope gonna weld me up a cage w/exhaust tubin...gonna cut that dern cadillac converter off to.Got a couple ah comerlongs and a chain and 6 lights fer tha windshield 2 fer tha hood 2 fer tha fenders and 4 more fer tha wrecker truck bumper imagonna put on it .gotta git rido that 4whl disc and 4:1 lo-range what tha hell is it?HAIR lockers wtf, cut tha lines and gimmie my torch imma gonna weldem up.I wanta slip yoke damit...crazy fool injection git it outta here(see above)


:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: Gimmie my:beer: damit

Hey Newbie, why don't you go back to JU until you feel you have something useful to share with the group...

:flipoff2:
Jake

:confused: What...you didnt like my story :confused:

I gave my opinion.
I broke it down for you:

I think it ( the rubicon ) is cool.


Jake...337 post of "Hey newbie go back to JU " is great.You come up with that all by yourself ?Way to share. :rainbow:

Originally posted by Mr.RatBastard
:confused: What...you didnt like my story :confused:

I gave my opinion.
I broke it down for you:

I think it ( the rubicon ) is cool.


Jake...337 post of "Hey newbie go back to JU " is great.You come up with that all by yourself ?Way to share. :rainbow:

No problem. ;) Felt it was my duty. Judging by this thread, I wasn't the only one who felt that way... :flipoff2:

Besides, you and your 43 "rah rah :rainbow: Rubicon! :rainbow: " posts were getting on my nerves. ;)

If your skin is so thin that you can't take it well...



















JU awaits!

:flipoff2: ,
Jake

Somebody help Jake....he's soooo weak.About to get ugly like mike tyson fighting andy dick.
It's ok jake dont:crybaby2: shhhhh shhhhh It's ok jake
:flipoff2:

hey why the hell r u gonna shell out the 25,000 for a rubicon if its gonna be your daily driver? :confused: i mean if your gonna wheel your yota, why the hell dont u buy a regular TJ or something cheaper..if your not gonna wheel it much, its a waste of a rubicon :flipoff2:

Originally posted by muddyxj
hey why the hell r u gonna shell out the 25,000 for a rubicon if its gonna be your daily driver? :confused: i mean if your gonna wheel your yota, why the hell dont u buy a regular TJ or something cheaper..if your not gonna wheel it much, its a waste of a rubicon :flipoff2:

Because I have a bad habit of doing stupid things in my daily driver. Like checking out a muddy trail at 2AM 50 miles from anywhere.

Ah... not really. I approve ( like you care..) of the new Rubicon.

Now to "try" and give some answers, you know, info...

You should be able to order in June. Production is to be about 8,000 units. This from the Engineers they had at the Detroit Auto show answering questions.

Wouldn't talk about price, but hinted at 25 - 27 depending on options.

I was impressed by the OEM equipment... and unimpressed by the center skid.... you'll know when ya see one up close. Can we say "Belly Up" ! And at least a decent tire from the factory
( OK, not nearly BIG enough ):mad:

So lift it and go.


To you old Fawkers: We newbies are not hindered by experience.... So Go Suck A Monkey Fart !

I love how some folks on the board bitch and moan that none of the auto makers will make a turn-key wheeler then when one comes around, they ridicule it. Some people ust don't have the time to build their rigs. Just an observation... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Mr.RatBastard
Somebody help Jake....he's soooo weak.About to get ugly like mike tyson fighting andy dick.
It's ok jake dont:crybaby2: shhhhh shhhhh It's ok jake
:flipoff2:

I'm not even going to glorify this crap with a response... It speaks for itself.

I don't think anyone is going to argue that the Rubicon TJ is the most capable stock wheeler Jeep ever produced (or will produce in the next couple years).

But are we really on this board to talk about wheeling stock vehicles???

I don't think so.

So, if you want to go wheel your totally stock off the showroom floor vehicle - fine. But many of us are here because we truly enjoy the wrenching as much as much as we enjoy the wheeling.

When you bust the front u-joint on your new Rubicon TJ, and want to replace it with a 60, you know where to come.

Well put, Mo.

:)

Gotta agree with MO..

What the hell was Mr Ratbastard tryin to say anyway...

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Well, Like I said in a previous post..You could buy a slightly wrecked TJ with 4.0 around here for about 4-6K...You gonna wheel it anyway...!! straighten what needs it and hit the trail... Spend some money on donor axles... WE ALL KNOW WERE to find em'..60s or 44's!!..oh and buy the way... if you are smart about your wheeling rig.. you can waste 15-20K on a nice tow rig/dailydriver... I cant see spending 30K on a brand new shiny rig and bashing it off some rocks... when you aint gonna see the title from the bank for 5-6 years.... what would the RUBICON do that a regular TJ wouldnt with locked axles and a tera low? we all know that we never are satisfied with "factory" equipment....so why waist the money..OH and with my experience with CHRYSLER warrenties.. first time you take your muddy RUBICON in to the dealer with a breakage from off road..WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY DO TO YOU...:flipoff2: thats what mine did to me whe I had my TJ...good luck to all of you rich folk...

Milkman,
just my .02$

Jake,when you hit reply (that is a response)

Mo,
Much better.I am not sure I understand though,no one is allowed to build up there rubicon ?
Everybody here running dana 60 fronts ? HA! not a chance.new outers on a 44 ? DOH ! break out the wrench's.
Milkman...just saying ,I think people that are bashing the rubicon are weak.

MR Ratbastard..


I am just saying if you buy one you are WEAK...That is the last we need out on the trails is a bunch of people that dont know what a socket wrench is..

Milkman

:flipoff2:

I think the rubicon's a great idea. What pisses me off is that I'll probably not be able to afford one and they will mostly be bought by soccer, yuppie, wannabe's that will never use it like they should. I still got plenty of Jeeps to build of my own but I think it would be cool to wheel about anything off the floor.

Milkman If you buy a TJ you dont know what a socket wrench is??? what if you bought a sniper from avalanche:confused: What about people who order there axles???are they weak???puhlease
Just so you know my last jeep had axles from midwest offroad (dana 60,dana 44 w/detroits) my current Jeep will have axles from the salvage yard.but I am not stupid enough to tell anybody I would turn down fresh from the factory 44's w/air lockers and disc brakes.You say you dont want em....ok.I wish my CJ-7 had factory 44's ,4 wheel disc,air lockers and a 4:1 transfer case....I could spend that much more on my suspension and tires and everything else.

Originally posted by CU4WHLN
Ah... not really. I approve ( like you care..) of the new Rubicon.

Now to "try" and give some answers, you know, info...

You should be able to order in June. Production is to be about 8,000 units. This from the Engineers they had at the Detroit Auto show answering questions.

Wouldn't talk about price, but hinted at 25 - 27 depending on options.

I was impressed by the OEM equipment... and unimpressed by the center skid.... you'll know when ya see one up close. Can we say "Belly Up" ! And at least a decent tire from the factory
( OK, not nearly BIG enough ):mad:

So lift it and go.

To you old Fawkers: We newbies are not hindered by experience.... So Go Suck A Monkey Fart !

Any word on the 4 speed auto????

I just like the fact that one will be able to finance the 'upgrades' at 5%-8% vs 20%. Thats the benny to me for the Rubby.

Archie Gallup - you slinging stuff around here too?

How's Maine treating you? Those swamper still hanging in there? Don't know if you heard, but I'm down in FL now

:D :D

And just to make it count:

Th Rubicon is a cool concept.. we'll see how its done. :rasta:

The Engineer said they weren't talking about anything but the Rubicon package content.

Now, it was obviously NOT the current 3 speed on the chassis they had on display. I pointed that out.... he just shrugged and said "Draw your own conclusions"

I looked under the vehicle, and it a a 42 RLE cast into the trans case. I don't know exactly what that means, but guessing it's a DCX slushbox. Wonder why not the AW 4 ?:question:

That center skid is way different than a current TJ btw

:usa:

i was thinking about it and really whats the diff weather it comes with a d30 or a d44. the first thing your gonna break is the u jiont and they both have the same size jiont. so all the fuss about the front d44 means nothing anyway. if yah are gonna build an offroad vehicle put a d60 in it

you guys crack me up. it is a very cool stock rig. i doubt many people are gonna buy one and head straight for the trail. but you have to admitt that they are finally building the heep the way we wish they would have been building them all along.

and yes i will probally buy one just to have to drive around town with the top down . and if i get real froggy i might even drive it down a couple of fire roads, but when it is time to go wheeling it will be parked in my garage and i will be in my trail rig.

I do have to agree that the Rubi looks to be about the best out of the box wheeler. However, the price is more likely to be around 30K. A bit too much for my blood. Yea, there are mnay mods that you can "finance", but I'd rather take my time and learn to wheel the rig stock first while saving up for mods. That way I already know how to drive it when it's time.
I'm not going to be lining up on the bandwagon to trade in my TJ that I already took the hit of paying intrest on to do it all over again.