Tydes
02-05-2002, 06:34 PM
I have a 1975 Scout II. Im looking to do a spring-over, but i was wondering if there were any axle that i could bolt on. Cause i have heard many stories of guys breaking axle cause the didnt turn the knuckles. And i have all so heard that you shouldnt turn the knuckles and just get a high pinion D44. So i really just want to be able to bolt some other type of axle like a waggy 44. Thanks for your help. Im selling my Toyota and going to start wheelen the scout. :D
Old Scout
02-05-2002, 06:39 PM
I would like to know who your talking too, because they have filled your head with bad info!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
JoshC
02-05-2002, 06:47 PM
1) Get rid of that Yota.
2) Turn the knuckles and spring your shit over.
3) Have fun.
PM me if you have any questions. I'd be more than happy to rap with a Scout guy!
Oh, and :flipoff2: newbie!
Scout Dude
02-05-2002, 06:54 PM
You can "Bolt" in a full width Chevy or Dodge 44 but you need some sort of leaf spring spacer...and then there is the steering to deal with....Everything else needs perches welded on top or the diff moved to the other side (i.e. the RC44)
ihman
02-05-2002, 07:01 PM
I'm going to be doing the waggy 44's here at the end of the month... There is no cut-n-turn with them....
Mechanos
02-05-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by ihman
I'm going to be doing the waggy 44's here at the end of the month... There is no cut-n-turn with them....
Hold on there bucko... there are NO absolutes when it comes to doing these SOA's. Each one is different depending on what you want and how it is set up. It depends on total lift involved, what type of springs used, etc.... For example: Some people know they will never be in 4WD except at slow speeds and can live with a equal/opposite set up that, depending on their setup, might cause some vibration at speed. Some people can't live with the vibration at speed in 4WD and want to go with a double cardon (cv) type shaft. In that case, a cut and turn is in order. You can't just make a blanket statement like that without examining all the other variables and how they fit into the equation..... Just my views on the subject..... but remember, you can always tell an Engineer, you just can't tell him much!! :eek: :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: :eek:
ihman
02-05-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Tydes
I have a 1975 Scout II. Im looking to do a spring-over, but i was wondering if there were any axle that i could bolt on. Cause i have heard many stories of guys breaking axle cause the didnt turn the knuckles. And i have all so heard that you shouldnt turn the knuckles and just get a high pinion D44. So i really just want to be able to bolt some other type of axle like a waggy 44. Thanks for your help. Im selling my Toyota and going to start wheelen the scout. :D
I was going under the assumption that he was going with the IH springs... If so, there should be no reason to cut-n-turn... You are right that no SOA is exactly the same...
Brandonw
02-05-2002, 08:23 PM
I used a 10 bolt fornt out of a 3/4 ton Chevy. It was almost a direct bolt in with the stock scout springs. Just oval the the centering pin holes inboard a bit and your good to go. Check out pics of my Scout hereFullwidth SOA pics (http://chevysetc.com/corn.html)
ihman
02-05-2002, 08:34 PM
BrandonW....
did you ever get those(I think you were looking for 38's?)... What ya going to do with the 35??:D
Tydes
02-05-2002, 08:55 PM
IHman where do you live in oregon? Want to go wheelen? drop me a line at gtydes@hotmail.com that is if you dont mind going with a yota.
makkat
02-05-2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by ihman
I'm going to be doing the waggy 44's here at the end of the month... There is no cut-n-turn with them....
I thought all of the passenger drop waggy axles were spring-under. Are you not going SOA or are you grinding into the pumpkin for the perch?
In terms of SUA, the waggy axles can be used as is....they have a lot of caster built into them.
ihman
02-06-2002, 08:48 AM
Waggy axles before 74 were SOA then 74-79 SUA pass diff.... I'm sure I will have to do some grinding, but I'm pretty sure I won't have to cut-n-turn. Waggy's have about 6-7* caster built in...
makkat
02-06-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by ihman
Waggy axles before 74 were SOA then 74-79 SUA pass diff....
Ok, but aren't pre 74 closed knuckle? I would rather not stay with a closed knuckle on the 800, but I'm open to ideas.