: Removing tires from the rim


4-runnin
02-06-2002, 06:04 PM
I refuse to pay someone to do this. Does anyone know any tricks to removing tires from the wheel by hand?

Thanks

Old Scout
02-06-2002, 06:12 PM
It's not rocket science!

http://www.pitstopusa.com/BEADBREAKERSANDSPOONS.asp

http://www.aloop.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-08-0115.html?E+scstore

smurfsdad
02-06-2002, 06:40 PM
use a hi-lift to break the bead and then you can remove the tire with some tire irons you can buy at a mc shop. you need to push the bead down into the center of the wheel opposite of the side you are using the tire irons. i change tires at home frequently and my tire irons are only 8 inches long. its a matter of technique.

bgreen
02-06-2002, 08:31 PM
Always start from the front (outside) of the rim! Take the tire off the rim starting from the front of the rim and put it back in the tire starting from the front. This means that you put the rim in from the back of the tire when you install it.

Use a heavy concentration of soapy water to aid removal and installation.

If you have to force the tire over the edge of the rim you are doing something wrong.

Tony Sobrito
02-06-2002, 08:44 PM
I JUST REMOVED A FEW 39.5 SWAMPERS TODAY WITH THE ABOVE SUGGESTIONS. i used the tire irons and bead breaker from black rat AKA tire plyers. sure is nice to save a trip and wait over at the tire shop and she dont like swampers in the volvo wagon! sorry for the caps

Tony Sobrito
02-06-2002, 08:50 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Old Scout
[B]It's not rocket science!

http://www.pitstopusa.com/BEADBREAKERSANDSPOONS.asp

this stuff looks same as what i used today for about half the price

44Runner
02-06-2002, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Alaska Offroad
Always start from the front (outside) of the rim! Take the tire off the rim starting from the front of the rim and put it back in the tire starting from the front. This means that you put the rim in from the back of the tire when you install it.

Use a heavy concentration of soapy water to aid removal and installation.

If you have to force the tire over the edge of the rim you are doing something wrong.

Believe it or not, i would use a heavy amount of hair spray. It works, i promise...

BadDog
02-07-2002, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by smurfsdad
use a hi-lift to break the bead and then you can remove the tire...my tire irons are only 8 inches long. its a matter of technique.

I just changed a set of 42x15x15 TSLs from one set of wheels to another using the tyrepliers setup. Breaking the bead was by far the hardest part, especially THE BACK. But, I gotta say, the tyrepliers we much, MUCH easier than the hi-lift and I didn't have to worry about it kicking the side of the tire up and throwing the hi-lift back at me. Anyway, each tire I did got easier up till the last one. I don't know what was up with that one but I thought I never would get the back bead off. Those 42s have some MoFo beads on 'em.

Originally posted by Alaska Offroad
Always start from the front (outside) of the rim! Take the tire off the rim starting from the front of the rim and put it back in the tire starting from the front. This means that you put the rim in from the back of the tire when you install it.

Use a heavy concentration of soapy water to aid removal and installation.

If you have to force the tire over the edge of the rim you are doing something wrong.

After breaking the bead, pulling the tire off and mounting it back up was pretty trivial. I did push the oposite side into the valley, and I did use very soapy watter. However, I gotta say it would still qualify as "force the tire over the edge". Other than breaking the bead, the 42s weren't that much worse than the much smaller tires I did some time ago but, maybe I just need more practice. I gotta say the funky hooked(?) spoon from Tyrepliers (never seen one like it before) makes getting the front bead over the lip (last stage of mounting) MUCH easier than ever before. It was a total non-event once I figured out the "best practice" for using it.

welndmn
02-07-2002, 10:39 AM
ok how about putting it on, i have a hell of a time getting one on, who has the best tool for getting the tires back on the rim (PS screw drivers and pry bars suck for doing this)

BadDog
02-07-2002, 11:30 AM
I don't know if anyone else caries them but, the tyrepliers tire iron with spoon on one end and the funky crook thing on the other works better than anything I've seen. Honestly, the fourth tire (after getting to know the tools) only took about 5 minutes total to put a 42" TSL onto a 15x8 rim using nothing but soapy water. The first bead (back side of tire) over the rim (front of rim goes in back of tire) is always easy just walking the bead over using a spoon. But I've had trouble and seen people have trouble with the front bead, pulling the wheel lip through from inside. That little crook hooks the rim lip and slides the bead over with no significant effort, and it doesn't get pinched in like most spoons can. You can see it here (http://www.extremeoutback.com/XO%20Complete%20Tyre%20Change%20kit%20copy.jpg). It's the one in the front.

Tony Sobrito
02-07-2002, 11:34 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BadDog
[ only took about 5 minutes total to put a 42" TSL onto a 15x8 rim using nothing but soapy water.


ditto 39.5 swamper on a 15x8 5 min total to mount
the tyr plyr spoons are killer

kodak
02-07-2002, 01:15 PM
The easiest and cheepest way is to get your buddies to come over and give you a hand. hot soapy water on the bead and the rim. and 2 pry-bars. Have one guy stand on the rim and you and some one else use the pry-bars work the bead off the rim.

It goes really easy. By your self is just a PIA. and you could hurt yourself or the wheel or tires....

4-runnin
02-07-2002, 04:34 PM
OK I am probably going to get flamed for this stupid idea but here goes. I drive my truck up onto on side of the un-inflated tire to break the bead. Then have a buddy or two work the pry-bars in and start prying. I really do not want to purchase anything to take these shitty ass tires off these shitty ass rims.

yagernc
02-07-2002, 04:36 PM
Thats easy !

www.yager.net/zukin/garage/tirechanger/tirechanger.html (http://www.yager.net/zukin/garage/tirechanger/tirechanger.html)

I did a small write up on my $35 (on sale) manual tire machine from Harbor Freight. It needs to be bolted down to work properly.

It took me and a friend about 30 min. to dismount 5 tires on a saturday why drinking beer. The first one will take a while till you figure out things.

I have a set of tyre-plyers and spent close to $200 for the tool and spoons, they work great ON THE TRAIL. It has taken me 20min just to rip 1 swamper off a rim, 2 spoons arnt enough sometimes, end up empting the tool bag sticking junk in between as you work it around.

But the $35 cheep-o is the bomb ! Its all in the tool !

Im gonna get a 2nd to bolt to my trailer.


-mike

ahhh.... fixed the link.... but cut/paste works..... try the right mouse button:flipoff2:

4-runnin
02-07-2002, 09:46 PM
your link doesn't work