Well the driveline is almost finished, and most of the bodges and work-in-progress bits have been sorted, so time for a bit of an unveiling

Here is a view from the :flipoff2: REAR :flipoff2:

http://www.marshallsay.com/moglite/images/Main@19weeks.JPG


Website and build up pictures are here
MogLite (http://www.marshallsay.com/moglite/index.htm )

Still an awful lot to do, especially on suspension links, but so far so good.

I'm starting a new job on Monday, so progess will slow dramatically, but I'm pretty chuffed to date.

Very cool man,

I checked out the website as well. Nice job with everything. How long is your front driveshaft gonna be? Is the front axle in the stock location front to back? I am just interested to know for my own project. My pinion conversions are about 1.5" longer than yours, but I think we can cut them down just like yours.

Anyway, keep the updates coming.

Billster

Billster
I'm using Stage 1 V8 front props at both ends, chunky double-cardon things. To make the props fit I've got custom transfer box flanges - but they only turned up today.
Give us a day or two and I'll get you measurements and piccies.
I've lost the trans brake too.

Axles are in the stock location, its quite a squeeze in 100" without chopping the props up, but once the rear pinion is tilted up a bit, I think it will be fine.

While you are measuring could you measure the compressed and extended length of the stage 1 front prop?
Also, where do I find them? ;-)
Could be the solution for our front prop binding...

T

Very cool Andy, will be interesting to see what it drives like.

Makes me want to get back to checking www.ebay.de again for mog axles, but I can't just drive home with them to my (Australian) garage like you can.

While you are measuring could you measure the compressed and extended length of the stage 1 front prop?
Also, where do I find them? ;-)
Could be the solution for our front prop binding...

T

The prop is ~23" compressed and ~26" extended possibly a bit longer, the rubber gaiter is pretty stiff, and maybe preventing a little extra length.
John Craddocks in the UK sell them for just £90 each. Disco II front props are an alternative I believe but are sealed for life.

A couple of in-progress pics
http://www.marshallsay.com/moglite/images/front_prop1.jpg
http://www.marshallsay.com/moglite/images/front_prop2.jpg

Ben - it might just drive half decent, good tyres, weight distribution, some castor on the front axle - should be able to get it on and off the trailer without too much drama :smokin:

nice! keep the pics coming

nice stuff...its begging for larger tires though :flipoff2:

nice stuff...its begging for larger tires though :flipoff2:

Yes and no. These should be at least 36" on 20" rims!?

With the small pumpkin and about 5" portals, this gives the same ground clearance as 50" rubber on a Sals/Dana 60.

It needs wide tires, 39.5 bogger or 44" tsl.

The current tyres are 10.5R20's which measure up at a genuine 37" - they were cheap and they'll get me running.
I'd like 12.50R20's to give me about 40". Boggers and Swampers are too expensive and I think I get stuck between the trees if I went 44's

Just a bit of footage to fire you mog guys up. Heres a vid of the Mogrovers winning run at the Woodpecker Challenge event run here last weekend. Basically an allterrain challenge and fastest time wins. The Mog was the only rig to drive the entire course without winching. The strap at the end has a few guys pulling on it. Probably didnt need the strap but you wernt penalised for using it so we did.

Mogrover vid (http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album325/aae.wmv)

Sam

Looking good!

You've been quiet lately, any news on the US experience?

that mog rover is sweet thanks for posting that I really enjoyed the video

The current tyres are 10.5R20's which measure up at a genuine 37" - they were cheap and they'll get me running.
I'd like 12.50R20's to give me about 40". Boggers and Swampers are too expensive and I think I get stuck between the trees if I went 44's

Nah Andy - you need some nice 44" Michelin XM47's on there.

http://www.michelinag.com/agx/en-US/products/product_detail_pages/XM47HS.jsp

A lot of hard core Mog guys in the US run these and they can go down the highway at 55 MPH (US DOT approved too !!). When you show up at a meet, having TRACTOR TIRE's on your comp rig eliminates half the field (in their heads).

Oh, you can also run them at about 5 PSI on Mog rims and reports from the field say they resist de-beading well !

High Speed Tractor Tires.......hehehe :D

looks good' what kind of tyers are those? are they Michelin XCL?

Nah Andy - you need some nice 44" Michelin XM47's on there.

Damn you are so right - the 42's would be awesome for the UK

xm47 is now on my eBay favourite searches :grinpimp:

152 lbs per tire!!! That's the only problem with AG and industrial tires, heavy and stiff. I've got lots of big nasty tires at work, but you need equipment to lift them.

The prop looks to sharp of an angle for a single double end. Are you sure you don't need "double double carden shafts?"

Ron

152 lbs per tire!!! That's the only problem with AG and industrial tires, heavy and stiff. I've got lots of big nasty tires at work, but you need equipment to lift them.

XM-47's are almost the same as my 14,5x20 Conti MPT80's...

A wheel and tire combo weighs almost 250 lbs on my rig - hell, the damn wheel weighs 80 lbs.

Got muscle ?? Mog's aren't Rovers - the 33's on the Disco are like garden tractor tires now... :laughing:

Yes, but as an example a 42" Irok weighs around 100 lbs. The difference is the AG tire will have a seriously thick casing that won't want to deform at low pressures, especially, with a relatively light truck on top of them.

Have a look the 42" XM47s are designed for 3090 lbs at 15 psi. :eek:

Yes, but as an example a 42" Irok weighs around 100 lbs. The difference is the AG tire will have a seriously thick casing that won't want to deform at low pressures, especially, with a relatively light truck on top of them.

Have a look the 42" XM47s are designed for 3090 lbs at 15 psi. :eek:

This is true and probably would be an issue on a light "buggy" style chassis (like Andy's ?).

Believe it or not, XM47's run at low pressure are surprisingly flexible (they are designed to be flotation Ag tires) - unlike some of the other many-ply military tires designed to run at 80 PSI (which you could probably run with -0- air pressure on a 6000 lb vehicle).

There are two types of tires commonly used on heavier ex-mil vehicles in recreational service - the high pressure types (commonly sold to innocent wheelers in 14,00x20 sizes, sometimes in 24 ply+ versions :shaking: ) which have NO flex, and modern multi-purpose (MPT) tires with low max inflation pressures (usually 45-50 PSI max) which give a nice low-inflation footprint and grab rocks like a champ. The XM series falls in that group (but, yes, still require a bit of weight on them).

TTT so what's the news Andy ?

TTT so what's the news Andy ?
Not too much I'm afraid. I started a new job, what with that Christmas and two weeks in Orlando - I haven't done much.

Still I did get some keys parts such as fuel cell, radiator and gauges etc while in Florida, so it wasn't all Disneyland.

My target is to get the Engine running by easter. Possible a jack-stand transmission test too.

Won't you get a pretty harsh vibration from the single at the bottom of the driveshaft and double at the top? Different angles, sharp bottom angle, seems like you'd even do better with single-single out of phase than what you have.

Won't you get a pretty harsh vibration from the single at the bottom of the driveshaft and double at the top? Different angles, sharp bottom angle, seems like you'd even do better with single-single out of phase than what you have.

Possibly, but as I have no permanent suspension links yet, I can up the rear of the diff a little to help.
The rig will be street-legal, but very rarely street driven, so I don't expect huge problems.