: Lucas and me...


DieLucas!
11-30-2004, 02:15 AM
...damn Rover wiring. What the bloody hell were these Brit's thinking? Whoever designed the RR wire harness is on the same shit-list as the German who designed the Audi A4 front suspension...fakking morons! :shaking:

Anyway, score:

Lucas 1
DieLucas! 0

I suck. And no, Pendy, that's not an invitation.

Brake lights still don't work. Plastic caps around terminals of brake light switch are melted, though wiring/sheath looks fine :confused: Apparently the "short" was hot enough to melt the plastic, but not the wire's sheath, which is odd.

I can't believe the insane number of wires for so very few switches/controls. This is going to be fun...

jbt
11-30-2004, 03:05 AM
The Prince of Darkness is a tough fighter... :D
A least you know that you got a completely normal Rover :D

ISUZUROVER
11-30-2004, 03:43 AM
You obviously need more chickens...

If you are really game do what I did - remove every factory wire and start again with your own loom, making it the way LR should have done it.

jbt
11-30-2004, 05:37 AM
You obviously need more chickens...

If you are really game do what I did - remove every factory wire and start again with your own loom, making it the way LR should have done it.

PITA

ISUZUROVER
11-30-2004, 06:01 AM
PITA

Yes but you only have to do it once, unlike fixing faults in factory wiring. And then you know where every wire is and exactly what it does. You can also fit relays and fuses where they should have been in the first place.

PTSchram
11-30-2004, 06:21 AM
You obviously need more chickens...

If you are really game do what I did - remove every factory wire and start again with your own loom, making it the way LR should have done it.

Bah! Just run new wires alongside the original. To make it even more fun, use the same color wire, or better yet, splice in differing color wires along the way :flipoff2:

The melted plastic may have been from the light bulbs and not the wiring deficiencies. I had to buy a Rangie I couldn't get the taillights to owrk consistently :D

JSBriggs
11-30-2004, 08:23 AM
Bah! Just run new wires alongside the original. To make it even more fun, use the same color wire, or better yet, splice in differing color wires along the way :flipoff2:

The melted plastic may have been from the light bulbs and not the wiring deficiencies. I had to buy a Rangie I couldn't get the taillights to owrk consistently :D

Id get a new switch. Relatively cheap, and way more fun than an under dash fire.

I still have mine if you need it.

http://www.jpurnell.com/RR/pix/brakelightswitch/melted_brake_light_switch.jpg

-Jeff

PTSchram
12-01-2004, 06:49 AM
Id get a new switch. Relatively cheap, and way more fun than an under dash fire.

I still have mine if you need it.

http://www.jpurnell.com/RR/pix/brakelightswitch/melted_brake_light_switch.jpg

-Jeff

It wasn't the switch, bad grounds at the taillight.

DieLucas!
12-01-2004, 08:40 AM
It wasn't the switch, bad grounds at the taillight.

That's likely the case with mine...there's corrosion on most of the connections that are in the cab, so I can only imagine how the connections at the taillights work.

welderdude
12-01-2004, 09:27 AM
I know, :vader2: you could dump gas over the top, light, walk away from the POS and buy a cherokee.
That would fix all the CRAPPY electrical problems of the glob of metal and faulty wire rolling around on little tires getting TERIBLE gas mileage

DieLucas!
12-01-2004, 01:34 PM
...and buy a cherokee.


I'd rather gnaw my arm off.

PTSchram
12-01-2004, 06:28 PM
I'd rather gnaw my arm off.

Me too :flipoff2:

Serious One
12-01-2004, 09:55 PM
I'd rather gnaw my arm off.

Trying to find a picture of just such a thing, I did a Google search for 'gnawing arm off picture'. Interestingly it is a phrase that is used quite a bit.

Alas...no pictures. :flipoff2:

EDIT: Since I have nothing better to do right now, and since I have some experience with the rear taillights of the Classic RR, I'll add my .02 cents.

I do know that when you do a lot of rear quarter panel bashing on the RRC, that it alters the shape of not only the outer fender, but also it's relation to the inner fender well in the rear where the lights are mounted. If you bash the rear quarter panels enough you will force the lights which are mounted on the outer panel (the steel corner capping, remember), into positions which alter the way the lightbults mount to the light. Several lightbulbs are mounted into a clip/spring mounted socket that when jostled around too much, break off and/or make strange backfeeds and werid grounds against the body. I have tried to fix mine in various and sundry ways, finding absolutely nothing that worked better than replacing the light altogether and re-doing all of the wiring back up into the inner fender well.

When you get your light off of the corner capping you will see how the lightbulb fixtures recess into the inner body panel and that if it were to be moved around much you would run into problems.

I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but generally speaking my electrical problems have been caused by bad grounds. In particular with my first RRC the bad grounds were caused by beating the crap out of the rear quarter panels with ill regard to much else.

Good luck...you'll need it. :flipoff2:

Simon
12-01-2004, 10:02 PM
Add the word "racoon" and see what turns up.

Simon

welderdude
12-02-2004, 11:02 AM
Not to sure a racoon would chew through their own leg/arm, but....I know its the wrong forum, but if anyone wants to buy a 95 Disco drop me a line.
Dkempken@sbcglobal.net.
I simply have come to realize that owning one of these things is a disease thaT CAN AND WILL NEVER BE CURED.
Also, the wonderful thing about humans, we know how to make knives......so chewing hs become obsolete.

aaron t
12-02-2004, 11:22 AM
we have these nifty little critters out here in az that we call pack rats.....they love to eat wiring. mabe you could just send the rangie out here and give em a good square meal. :D then rewire.
i would much rather rewire a rangie than re"frame" a cherokee......unibody garbage :rolleyes:

DieLucas!
12-02-2004, 11:24 AM
Also, the wonderful thing about humans, we know how to make knives......so chewing hs become obsolete.

The point being, if given the opportunity to cut my arm off or chew through all of the grissle and sinew in lew of owning a Cherokee, I'd choose the latter as demonstration of my convictions. If I wanted a unibody, I'd buy another Fiat.

aaron t
12-02-2004, 11:40 AM
oh but you could buy one of those trick bolt/weld on subframes BLING BLING. then you could loose even more ground clearance. :flipoff2:

welderdude
12-03-2004, 12:13 PM
Even better, buy a FIAT and drop in rover motor complete with wiring......
Wait........
.....Develop hypertension.

HandBuilt
12-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Even better, buy a FIAT and drop in rover motor complete with wiring......
Wait........
.....Develop hypertension.

Do the world a favor and die.