any one run this on there YJ, or TJ, I like the idea but you still got to find a Dana 300 and then bye a 4to1 kit , so is it cheaper to just buy an Atlas? I like the Dana 300 so Im leaning towards that case I guess.:usa:

I am currently running the Flip Kit and love it. When I bought the kit I did'nt have the money for the Atlas, the 300 allows me to spread out my money over time. I got the 300 without the 4to1, and have run like that for over a year now I am now thinking about putting in the 4to1. There is a Group buy going on right now for the Flip Kit the price is $550 Let me know if you are interested.

I might be interested in the group buy. When ya'll doing that?
mike

Originally posted by stadlerm
I might be interested in the group buy. When ya'll doing that?
mike We need 10 people in on it, to get the deal. We have 5 already from JU. I hope to have enough by next week to get the order in. Let me know if you want in. I was going to post it here last night but I wasn't in the mood to start a "just get an AtlasII" thread.

I need a Dana 300 first I guess lol let me see how much I get back for taxes and I migh be interested in the group bye.:smokin:

what comes with this flip kit that makes it so expensive it looks to me like its just to flip the shifters over and if thats the case why couldnt make it yourself?

The official group buy thread on JU is at
http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/002803.html

The group buy only needs one or two more to go through.

forgett all that, just buy a driverside drop doubler, the shit:smokin:

Originally posted by jeepmodman
what comes with this flip kit that makes it so expensive it looks to me like its just to flip the shifters over and if thats the case why couldnt make it yourself? There's alot more to it than that. You can't just flip the shifters over. You get new shifters, 1 new shift fork, new shift rails, and a new spacer plate to run the shift rails through, and alot of other little pieces.

Originally posted by BIGASSYJ
forgett all that, just buy a driverside drop doubler, the shit:smokin: I agree the doubler is great but most of us don't have a long enough wheelbase to use it.

btt....

is this kit really worth $550?

Originally posted by JeeperJake
btt....

is this kit really worth $550? I think the kit is well worth $550, since I paid more than that for mine, I am not at all dissappointed in the purchase. It was one of the best mods I've ever made.

The group buy is still going on over on JU. The flip kit is $550 (shipped I think) from Downeast Offroad and the teralow for the D300 is $530 from DC Offroad.

We need 2 more people to get the 10 orders we need. Email me if interested or troll over to JU and chime in on that thread.

Chris

does this kit allow for clocking the 300? i want to use a flat skid- will i be able to clock it with this kit or would i have to get something else as well? thanks!


- jake

Originally posted by JeeperJake
does this kit allow for clocking the 300? i want to use a flat skid- will i be able to clock it with this kit or would i have to get something else as well? thanks!

I'm pretty sure the kit does not have a way to clock it. You'd need something else to do that. Its still a hell of a deal for this flip kit.

Chris

add all that up.

actual case $200
flip kit $550
4 to 1 $699
drive shaft work
twin stick
all the time and hassle
shipping
and do you need an extra adapter between the ax-15
you will only be a hundred or two from the price an atlas. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

With the flip kit you don't need to buy the twin stick kit... it comes with it.

Originally posted by aaronlosey
add all that up.

actual case $200
flip kit $550
4 to 1 $699
drive shaft work
twin stick
all the time and hassle
shipping
and do you need an extra adapter between the ax-15
you will only be a hundred or two from the price an atlas. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Yawn. :rolleyes: This old arguement again? Lets try this again:

Actual case $200 (mine was actually free)
Flip kit $550 group buy
4 to 1 $530 group buy - didn't read the previous posts, did you?
Driveshaft work - Needed with the Atlas too so not a valid comparison cost.
twin stick - included in flip kit
Time and hassles - do you just bolt everything on? Where is the DIY spirit?
Shipping - free with the flip kit group buy. 4 to 1 will be about $25. none for tcase - Won't you pay for shipping on the Atlas?
Adapter - not necessary

So I'm in it for $1100 total. Try to get an Atlas for that.

You don't seem to know very much about the flip kit. Maybe you should actually look at the kit before talking about it.

As has been said many times before, not everyone wants or needs an Atlas. Some just want a lower cost alternative to get a stronger tcase than the 231.

Chris

Well, this is basically the same thread as the other one, but I'll just add a bit as well. Once again I will just say that the flip kit alone could be considered an alternative to doing a SYE/CV the price is close (at least with this group buy) and you get a lot of benefits that you don't get with the SYE. including, (in case anyone reading this doesn't know yet)
4" longer driveshaft than SYE
Twin stick shifting (allows 2 low operation)
stronger case
gear driven
cheaper to upgrade to 4:1

Also, it can be clocked, according to DEOR without any additional parts, i beleive all you need to do is drill a few extra holes. Even if you do not clock it, you will certainly be able to remove your TC drop if you have one, and you could fabricate a flatER skidplate than the stock one, which is what I think I might do. I will probably gain about 3" clearance when you include removing the drop.

Guys, if you are interested, NOW is the time, the $550 price goes back up to around $700 after friday. So please, order now! You can also get a Dana 300 case for less than $200 if you look around a bit. I got mine for $75, and the guy who sold me it actually has anouther one for $75 if anyone near NJ wants it. It is not worth shipping because it would probably cost more to ship than to buy, so try to find one locally. it should be out of an 82-86 CJ BTW

Man I wish I had the cash.. that would be a killer setup!!!! Course, I could just run a D300 without the flip kit and grab a 60 front and 14 bolt rear from a chevy too.... but that will never happen..
Scott

Originally posted by 1badjeep
Man I wish I had the cash.. that would be a killer setup!!!! Course, I could just run a D300 without the flip kit and grab a 60 front and 14 bolt rear from a chevy too.... Scott

chyeah..and monkeys'll fly outa my butt:flipoff2:
why is it that we are the only 2 up this late in the jeep section like every night?:D

I really don't understand the big deal about the flip kit. Why not just save the $550-700 and get yourself a passenger side front axle? I'm sure that a D60 could be built for that price...and you'd end up with a stronger transfer case AND a stronger front axle.

Originally posted by TJBob
I really don't understand the big deal about the flip kit. Why not just save the $550-700 and get yourself a passenger side front axle? I'm sure that a D60 could be built for that price...and you'd end up with a stronger transfer case AND a stronger front axle. Some people already have the front axle they want and don't need to upgrade. When I got my D44 I looked everywhere for a HP passenger side drop, they are impossible to find, so I went with the Ford axle. :flipoff2:

I have one 300 from a 84 if anyone decides to do a flip and needs it . I can ship it most anywhere for less than a 100.00 . I personally like the kit and think it is a good alternative to an Atlas .Now maybe this is an incentive for AA to offer interest free financing on their T case!

Originally posted by TJBob
I really don't understand the big deal about the flip kit. Why not just save the $550-700 and get yourself a passenger side front axle? I'm sure that a D60 could be built for that price...and you'd end up with a stronger transfer case AND a stronger front axle.

with a TJ that is alot of mods.. Or havn't you looked at your front end lately?

dont forget Exhaust has to be redone to fit the front driveshaft if you go passenger side drop.

Your talking bout a lot of mods to "just get a passengerside Pig."

Maybee not in a YJ. But in a TJ..... $$$$$$$ before its done.



Hey gang, dont forget about the Disc brake from Jess!

Originally posted by BellyUp
Hey gang, dont forget about the Disc brake from Jess!

Yup, I'm seriously thinking about this for when I build my flipped D300 too. By the time you factor in calipers with e-brakes on the D60 and the cables, it seems to make more sense to go with Jess' setup. No more e-brake cables stopping articulation. :D

Chris

Originally posted by Brad


chyeah..and monkeys'll fly outa my butt:flipoff2:
why is it that we are the only 2 up this late in the jeep section like every night?:D
Dude, I live on the board :flipoff2:.. actually.. between work, school, and a social life, the only time I can get on the board is late at night..
Scott

Originally posted by BellyUp


with a TJ that is alot of mods.. Or havn't you looked at your front end lately?

dont forget Exhaust has to be redone to fit the front driveshaft if you go passenger side drop.

Your talking bout a lot of mods to "just get a passengerside Pig."

Maybee not in a YJ. But in a TJ..... $$$$$$$ before its done.
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Well relocating the exhaust isn't really anything that a $5.00 per hour pipe bender muffler shop couldn't do. I'll be generous $150 to relocate the exhaust.

Uh, and aside from the steering setup that's about it.

Ask 1TONTJ about what his cost, I'm sure he did it for less than the $700 for the flip kit.

TJ BOB,

Ok now you have me thinking exhaust... by george I think your right. Instead of running the exhaust under the engine, It would just go down the drivers side. exit the drivers side. Or would the track bar in the rear be in the way? Hmmm I have to crawl under my jeep and look at this one... This could be a large savings.

I really dont need twin sticks, But do need the length of the D 300, and I really need a ONE TON CV disc brake. I have a RR 44 sittin here. so I could regear front and rear. and have 5:13's
One more ARB in the front and away I go. I could make the new front RR Dana44 able to adapt to 8 bolts so when I get my RR60 in the rear I could just go straight to 8 bolts.

Hmmm, Now I am seriously wondering... I will try and add all this up and post ....

*****If I go passenger side drop*****

Dana 300 from Downeastoffroad-- 200
One ton CV disc brake--------------- (I forget how much)
Driveshafts 2--------------------------- 300
Exhaust work--------------------------- 150
ARB for new RR44--------------------- 500
New Axles for front RR44------------ 400
New Axle tubes ----------------------- 120
Custom built TJ mounts-------------- FREE
New Disc brakes for RR44----------- 100
New rotors for RR44------------------ 100
Bearings for RR44-------------------- 100
Gears for both RR44's--------------- 400
Shipping total for all----------------- 130
Stearing parts------------------------ 250 (I think thats fair)
Sub total---------------------- $2750.00
Less what I can sell my dana 30 for (about 500)
sub total--- --- --- $2250.00

Stuff I wont need to go passenger side pig.

Twin stick flip kit. 550 savings
4 to 1 tera low 530 savings
Custom mount for upside down disc brake. Jess dont have one yet.

And we have to add the Disc brake on the above price, but that would happen either way I do it.
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********If I get the flip kit*********

Actual case $200
Flip kit $550 group buy
4 to 1 $530 group buy
Driveshaft work still 300.
Shipping same either way because I have to send the flipped 300 out to jess to fab a bracket for the disc brake.
plus the disc brake same as above.

sub total this way $1580

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

DID I MISS ANYTHING IN MY CALULATIONS?

Originally posted by Reverse Cut
*****If I go passenger side drop*****

Dana 300 from Downeastoffroad-- 200
One ton CV disc brake--------------- (I forget how much)
Driveshafts 2--------------------------- 300
Exhaust work--------------------------- 150
ARB for new RR44--------------------- 500
New Axles for front RR44------------ 400
New Axle tubes ----------------------- 120
Custom built TJ mounts-------------- FREE
New Disc brakes for RR44----------- 100
New rotors for RR44------------------ 100
Bearings for RR44-------------------- 100
Gears for both RR44's--------------- 400
Shipping total for all----------------- 130
Stearing parts------------------------ 250 (I think thats fair)
Sub total---------------------- $2750.00
Less what I can sell my dana 30 for (about 500)
sub total--- --- --- $2250.00


DID I MISS ANYTHING IN MY CALULATIONS?

This wasn't meant to be apples to apples was it? You could probably setup a junk yard axle for less if you pick and choose some of the upgrades.

Also $500 for a Dana 30 front? Is it made of gold? Or is it the ARB that is worth so much? I'd be lucky to see $80-100 for an open diff D30

Originally posted by TJBob
This wasn't meant to be apples to apples was it? You could probably setup a junk yard axle for less if you pick and choose some of the upgrades.

Yeah, but it what he wants, not what everyone else says he should have.

Chris

Originally posted by TJBob


This wasn't meant to be apples to apples was it? You could probably setup a junk yard axle for less if you pick and choose some of the upgrades.

Also $500 for a Dana 30 front? Is it made of gold? Or is it the ARB that is worth so much? I'd be lucky to see $80-100 for an open diff D30

I already have the Reverse cut Dana 44 front with a passenger side drop. :rolleyes: But the length is not right for a TJ. So getting a junkyard one isn't going to help is it?

As for the Dana 30 front. I am talking w/brakes/w/arb/w 4:10's (which are stock on 4 cyl TJ's so it could be an easy fit for many)
With the Tj mounts/w axles/w wheel bearings/w stearing components...

Now do you think its worth 500?

Originally posted by Reverse Cut


I already have the Reverse cut Dana 44 front with a passenger side drop. :rolleyes: But the length is not right for a TJ. So getting a junkyard one isn't going to help is it?

As for the Dana 30 front. I am talking w/brakes/w/arb/w 4:10's (which are stock on 4 cyl TJ's so it could be an easy fit for many)
With the Tj mounts/w axles/w wheel bearings/w stearing components...

Now do you think its worth 500?

Since you already have the 44, I would do the upgrades to get the 44 RC axle in there. The extra $700 would be well worth having the stronger front axle (except you have those weak D30 u-joints):rolleyes: . I guess I could see $500 with the ARB (as long as it doesn't leak) :)

How wide is the D44? Why not just leave it full width and adjust the backspacing of the wheels? Or is it too short?

Its off a F 150 so Its full width.

Adjust the Backspacing for The State of PA is too much.

If I did that, the front would be way wider than the rear.

It has to be shortened. If I do it.

But thanks for trying......

Hey are you going to the Badlands on March 30-31 With the Loose Cannons???

I am still trying to get off work.... I hope so....

Originally posted by Reverse Cut

Hey are you going to the Badlands on March 30-31 With the Loose Cannons???

I am still trying to get off work.... I hope so....

I hadn't heard of Loose Cannons, but I'll look into it. It will depend on the status of my rear axle swap. I plan to be done no later than early April, but hope it's sooner.

I know this is an old thread but I was just searching for a cheap way to flip my d300. Has anyone done it without a kit? It seems like it would take a fair amount of work, but it seems like it can be done.

do a search for tass, he did a $20 flip kit. Krawlr can do it to. Its no that bad and has been covered in depth.

FWIW- at the request of some friends/customers, I started making a clocking ring for the flipped 300 (in addtion to normal 300 and 231 versions). There are three positions to chose from which use all 6 holes without slotting or drilling new holes etc. Many factory transmissions to not have room/material for redrilling a new pattern.

good luck with your projects!