: whats the worst trail carnage you ever saw. ?
rockthedog 12-20-2004, 07:58 PM lets hear what happened with the hardest break you ever had or saw! :eek:
we all have that morbid curiosity .......i know i'm not the only sick one here :D
as for technical content, .....how was the problem dealt with.( i learn something new here everyday )
pics are worth 100 bonus points.................
no , make that 1,000,000 points :D
cruiserrg 12-20-2004, 08:15 PM OK, I'm game. These was with my old rig, as the new one is still being built.
One time I was doing extraction of a buddies cruiser with ruined front birf, getting him off a rock hill. I started by winchin' him up the him, but I was in the bypass and since it was an organized event, the staff for that obstical wanted me off the bypass and jerk him up by a stap. A little v8 power and then a bick bang, bang, BANG. Looked at the damage, and the rear leaf spring busted, one completely through the pack, second on all but a main leaf...this cause the rear to come down hard and compress the driveshaft enought to twist the tube completely off, which then took out the fuel line.
We finally got his rig off the hill, put "fur overloads" in between the frame and axle and he towed mine out. Fun was had by all. :D
Second one was at the Badlands in Attica, IN. Big rock pile, first time out with my exo and newfields (long before longs!). Wedged both front tires in this spot:
http://webpages.charter.net/cruiserrg/images/attica062201/attica23.jpg
Again v8 power resulted in a double ping. Here was the result:
http://webpages.charter.net/cruiserrg/images/attica062201/attica33.jpg
Again fun was had by all. :smokin:
Hope to have my new rig finished Spring '05 to see what else I can break! :grinpimp:
waggoner5 12-20-2004, 08:29 PM This is definately not the worst I've seen but the total day was a bitch. Food poisoning, 2 steering arms, 1 birfield, and both knuckles trashed in one incident. I was broke right in the middle of Golden Spike trail. I had it coming out of both ends, I finally had to totally give in to it, and be transported back to camp in another truck while a couple of guys I didn't even know stayed until 1:00AM completely rebuilding my truck while I slept it off. I went back the next day with 1 of the guys that helped to find it ready to go. One of the guys had new knuckles, I had all new bearings and some studs, Slee had the rest. Needless to say I was greatful and had an experience of a lifetime.
Gary
muddogbob 12-20-2004, 08:36 PM 2 steering arms, 1 birfield, and both knuckles trashed in one incident.
I have to ask how did you pull this off??? Did you hit the crack at 45?
rockthedog 12-20-2004, 09:19 PM yeh.......bring it on :D
LandCroozer 12-20-2004, 09:37 PM Oh it was horrible! Back in '01 or '02 me and a buddy were cruising the mall, and we got really thirsty. We went to the Starbucks on the corner and I got my usual double-mocha half-caf vanilla bean frappe with a twist, and those bastids not only left out the vanilla bean, but they added whole milk instead of lowfat! I thought I was going to die, good think my buddy was driving or we surely would have wrecked.
:flipoff2:
-tom
texican 12-20-2004, 09:42 PM I have to ask how did you pull this off??? Did you hit the crack at 45?
He did not double and triple check the bolts holding the high steer arms on............they got loose and both experienced catastrophic failure........ :confused: :confused:
texican 12-20-2004, 09:48 PM My worst was on 3 stage in Clayton, welded rear spiders failed, locked the rear axle up, took out the t case, as in 2 pieces, wedged the broken half between the crossmember ad floorboard so tight I had to torch the bolts holding the crossmember. Smoked my winch motor getting the rig back to level ground to repair......no pix.
Ruined diff case, both rear axles, transfer case, winch motor
Butch
FullsizeYota 12-20-2004, 10:20 PM I have to ask how did you pull this off??? Did you hit the crack at 45?
at cruise moab '04 one of our buddies did the same thing..........hit it at a 45 went 40 feet past the crack to the drop off. right knuckle was split in two by loose studs..... pulled the cruiser ahead to get it level and one guy in our group (Chris Fryman) welded it back up......went another 20 feet and popped again..... by the time it was all said and done, we spent like 3 hours workin on it, ate all my pringles and ran gold bar totally in the dark.... good shit
at a local water fall about 20 mins away.... one cruiser broke a birf and the other cruiser THE STARTER FELL OUT WTF???? i thought the starter thing was funny as hell
Cruiser Ken 12-21-2004, 05:30 AM A guy in a jeep cherokee was with us on a local cruiser run. Slightly lifted, 31s, and a front locker. I don't remember the total list but it was something like this, front axle, front brakes, clutch, and blew a head gasket. I think there was more but I don't remember. That was a couple years ago and it hasn't ran again since.
Another guy in a cuiser not in our club had some cheesy really thick AL caster shims on his rear axle to align the driveshaft. They broke and allowed his axle to slip, he hit the gas and ended up with his rear pinon pointing out the ass end of his rig, Tore both shock mounts, broke the pinion, broke the u-joint, tore both brake lines. Early this guy had hit a rock on his crossmember and partially separated his tranny from his bell housing. :rolleyes:
woody 12-21-2004, 05:40 AM 1-3/4 barrel roll down a 15' steep incline into a 36"+ deep creek....landed on the passnger side, my wife UNDER water....she opened her eyes as she undid her seatbelt, and blew bubbles so she knew which way was up....I reached down to where her belt was, found it undone, grabbed her and pulled her up.
That was the 2nd roll of the day, plus we sheared off the front t-case output shaft (cone was fine tho....)
mantis 12-21-2004, 05:43 AM My friend at the Superlift park in Hot Springs, AR:
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High5 12-21-2004, 05:46 AM well i have broken a few times to where i was totally dead.
first was back when i had my old cj5. i broke a loackout on one side of my front d44, a u-joint on the other and then the rear drive shaft let go. i was completely dead in the water.
another time i broke a front d60 lockout, then the stub shaft on the other side and last to go was the tranny housing broke and then i was completely dead in the water.
dd113 12-21-2004, 05:49 AM Years ago going up trail 5 @ Tellico in my old 40 31s, open etc... got caught up on a big ledge and kept at it. Eventually got over it but every time I gave it gas is rattled like hell, the entire truck shook. Limped 5 hours home and got up in there and took a good look expecting to see a broken motor mount. The bellhousing was cracked all the way through and the only think holding it all in the truck was the starter.
AT GSMTR a few years ago there was some guy that was just a dick. He managed to piss off everyone he came in contact with. Somhow or another he was on an easy trail and broke the ball off of his front axle. He sat there for at least 3 days until his only friend in the world came up to help him.
waggoner5 12-21-2004, 07:10 AM The steering arms came loose right after the crack By the time I noticed studs had already broken off and things were getting chewed up.
CaverInaCruiser 12-21-2004, 07:37 AM Cruise Moab '04 PreRun Paul May busted his T-case in half on Poison Spider mesa.
71RCKCRZR RYAN 12-21-2004, 08:30 AM umm a few years ago...in tanktrap..
44 broken front axle
landed on a big rock with the front shaft bent it and would not colapse and shoved the 205 back
broken tcase adapter now had no wheel drive.
pushed the cv into my muffler and smashed it
had to pull the binded rear shaft just to roll
then from winching dead battery and fawked the starter too
7 hours in tank trap sawks
convertiyota 12-21-2004, 09:53 AM My friend at the Superlift park in Hot Springs, AR:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=123065
What started it? :eek:
Total loss?
texican 12-21-2004, 10:10 AM Total loss?
Got to be, hands down, dumbest question ever asked here on the forum :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Gunmetalcruz 12-21-2004, 11:22 AM Mt shittiest break was on the rubithon last year when i broke both my ford 60 knuckles. Who's got spares of those? It hard enought o get a front 60 let alone parts. Well i have friends in low places and we got it back together. Who needs brakes anyway.
Runner up on that was driving to JV this fall to wheel everything hopefully and we ran jack hammer, went back out to run sledge and i broke a 35 spline rear shaft.(1st Day of the trip) Oh course there custom and no stock application will fit, no sapre, after 8 junk yards realizied I was SOL and drank the rest of the trip.
kling-on 12-21-2004, 11:39 AM Gravel river crossing 1 1/2ft of water heading up stream bured my 36 in claws and had water up to the bottom of the dash heard a BANG lost left front wheels pulling power ... smoked my 8274 trying to pull me out took 2 8k warn both pulling at once to get me out .... 20 yards later broke all the hub bolts on the passanger side and counld get out in 2wd had to be straped 4-5 mile throught the river :( broke one axle and a hub along with a winch motor .... at the hotel on the way home someone stole the winch too :mad3:
trkklr77 12-21-2004, 11:48 AM at knoxville ca, going down hill, popped a d44 axle joint, kept pushin, ate the d44 spiders, couldnt get pulled out so we kept going down hill. got stopped used the winch to pull out a couple of manzanitas, ran over/distroyed my winch remote, kept pushin down hill. my winch cable got wrapped around my steering arm and broke that off.
it took three winching jeeps to pull me back up the hill.
all in all i field striped the d44 [both knuckles] my buddies drove 70 miles to get parts. and back. it took me till mid night to get it together but we got out.
total time wheelin, about twenty minutes!
ginericfj80 12-21-2004, 11:57 AM A guy in a jeep cherokee was with us on a local cruiser run. Slightly lifted, 31s, and a front locker. I don't remember the total list but it was something like this, front axle, front brakes, clutch, and blew a head gasket. I think there was more but I don't remember. That was a couple years ago and it hasn't ran again since.
Another guy in a cuiser not in our club had some cheesy really thick AL caster shims on his rear axle to align the driveshaft. They broke and allowed his axle to slip, he hit the gas and ended up with his rear pinon pointing out the ass end of his rig, Tore both shock mounts, broke the pinion, broke the u-joint, tore both brake lines. Early this guy had hit a rock on his crossmember and partially separated his tranny from his bell housing. :rolleyes:
The jeep guy broke the steering arm off the knuckle too. He also caved in two doors on a previously straight rig. I believe the tranny was toasted too. The headgasket was the funniest part of the whole thing. Just when you thought things could go worse and poof! What I felt bad about that one was I had said something to the effect of that my 60 can't make it up this so I don't think your Cherokee can either. I didn't mean it is a challenge. I meant it is I'm turning around you probably should too. I think I may have provoked him into totalling that rig.
Ken in the second story you forgot that he later ran out of gas. That was quite possibly the worse trail break I've ever seen. Not because the carnage was so severe but because it was poorly engineered and could have been entirely preventable. What did make it worse than what it sounds was the weather conditions. BLIZZARD like conditions at night and the wee hours of the morning.
Rascal 12-21-2004, 12:50 PM Total loss?
Got to be, hands down, dumbest question ever asked here on the forum :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
SMACK!!!
Rascal 12-21-2004, 01:13 PM A well deserved reprint of Kowboy's depiction of a night in a canyon at CM04...
Well, I'm finally done driving. Back in Manhattan for a week or so. For those of you that might be curious, between the trusty ole' company truck and my big ole' Dodge, this trip was 5569 miles. I ain't got no purdy pictures but I do have a tale to tell. Let's just call it "A Moment in Time: Moab style."
Monday, April 26. Top end of Pritchett Canyon. We needed a tool. Not an ordinary or common tool ..... a special tool. We weren't sure exactly what it was for and we had no idea what it looked like, but, By Gawd, we knew we needed it. Tough to find somethin' when you don't what it is. Used process of elimination. Went through all the tool boxes looking for something we couldn't identify. Kris had a couple of contenders but tp knew what they were, therefore, must not be what we're looking for. Ain't got no special tool. Don't seem to know much about the special tool. Only one solution .... we needed The Wise One. We quickly dispatched Havis and his faithful ballast unit, Chris, in The Beater along with CodePig in Tripod on a mission from God to seek-out, and return with, The Wise One. So there we sat. Four people caught in a moment in time, linked together by circumstances none could have forseen. My junk was all beat to Hell. Rascal's junk was broke. Weren't nuthin' wrong with tp's or Kris' junk. They just stayed 'cause it was the right thing to do. Together in the midst of that beautiful canyon, we shared water, food, some DAMN fine conversation, and one helluva sunset. About five hours later, over the rise come The Wise One in the Stars and Stripes with (2) headlights, (2) off-road lights, and (4) friggin' rocklights all blazin'. (ya reckon The Wise One's afraid of the dark?) Havis ridin' shotgun doin' the navigatin' thang. In the confines of the Stars and Stripes were parts and pieces, warm clothes, water, food (why yes, I actually do consider Honey Buns and Donut Sticks to be viable forms of food products), and , of course, one very special tool. Silly lookin' little thing but it did indeed prove to be necessary. [Note: A real rescue party would of had some damn beer!] Out with the old shit: in with the new. Day run now a night run. Got to camp at 2:15 A.M. Most Excellent!
As a wayfaring stranger by trade, I felt somethin' that night in that canyon that I ain't experienced in many, many years. I belonged. At that time.... that place, and especially with those people, was exactly where I was meant to be. We all gather up a few times a year under the clever disguise of being a truck club. More to it then the junk we drive. I'd like to think the friendships we've made will still be around long after the trucks are done gone. Just some deep thoughts from a shallow mind. Ya'll be safe.
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72fj40 12-21-2004, 01:43 PM Moorehead KY on the pipeline, A buddy in a cj5 went a 1/3 down mountain, and came to a washout gully. He tried to stradle it. It was wider than the jeep and probably 6ft deep or more. He should have stayed in the gully and gone down on the vehicles rt side. Anyway trying to stadle it 1 front tire on the downhill side fell into the gully but had no earth to stop it. It rolled basically corner to corner and end to end. On the video the wheels left the ground 7 times. The guy survived w/minor scatches which was amazing considering it had a stk roll bar. There was only 1 body mount left that was in tact when it was done. We had to chain it to the back bumper of a CJ tight and to the frt of my 40 to get it out. There was no way to steer it. The hill was so steep you had to slide on your butt to go down and help him out.
A couple of days later the cj was on the trailer, he grabbed the steering wheel to pull himself up and it came off in his hand. It was the only thing he had to hold on to
during the roll. Scary!!!
My worse break was pulling jeep out of a mud hole. Broke both birfields and rt side rear axle at the same time. Another 40 showed up, he lived an hour away and went home to get me an axle. We got the vehicle running 6 hrs later. I'll go 4wheeling w/that guy anytime. My spare axle was 3hrs away 1 way.
Thru the yrs broke 5 t/cases and lost count on birfields, a couple of rolls and laying on its side is becoming a bad habit.
rockthedog 12-21-2004, 06:45 PM :D this is good stuff............ rascal what was the "special tool"?
krcruiser 12-21-2004, 07:20 PM Damn I read all the way to page 2 and all I read about is some cracked tcases, a couple cracked D60 knuckles and a bunch of birfs and a few studs and a high steer arm. Not that we have the light stuff handled, Where is the serious carnage..OH NOLEN :laughing:
DHONDAGOD 12-21-2004, 09:38 PM ok the fire one was cool.......
this is a story of two brothers, two fj40's and a weekend on duesy/ershim.. go in on friday night.. wheel untill brother/cruiser one brakes front spindle... brother/cruiser two wheels back out and drives down to fresno/home about 3 hours from (trail head). removes front spindle from dads fj40 thats sitting at home and returns to trailhead (3 hour drive remember) and procedes to wheel in to rescue brother one. halfway to where said brother is on trail cruiser two breaks spindle. brother hikes 2-hours with a spindle and a floorjack (dont ask) to brother one. repairs cruiser one. wheels back out to cruiser two and sets up camp. brother one wheels back out. drives 3 hours home and removes spindle of other side of dads cruiser. drives back up, wheels back to brother two and repairs cruiser 2. both brothers decide they dont want to wheel anymore this weekend and wheel out the way they came. drive home sunday tired and pissed... spindles have now been added to the trailkit in both cruisers.....
rockthedog 12-21-2004, 10:03 PM niether one of you will ever break another spindle.......ever!
well lets hope anyway!
4Mogger 12-21-2004, 10:16 PM near my hometown this jeep went off the trail and came to rest some 1000 feet down the mountain. Imogene is the name of the trial. Everyone in the vehicle died.
4Mogger 12-21-2004, 10:17 PM another pic of carnage
FullsizeYota 12-21-2004, 10:17 PM we were in my buddys cruiser one night......about 12:30 in a parking lot in the summer time.....
doing donuts/being jack asses roasting 35's with the 400 small block in 2nd gear totally sideways in the parking lot. laughing out asses off and havin fun then all of the sudden the transfer case literally blew in half bounced up dented the floor and shot strait down and took out a chunk of asphault... when the cops came they found 2 huge ass black marks, 90w spread over all the tracks and my friend cursing everything he could see and me laughing and they also could smell the gas.... they totally thought we were high or drinking or something......
4Mogger 12-21-2004, 10:19 PM Don't remember where they were from, New Mexico I think. It happened in summer of '03.
4Mogger 12-21-2004, 10:24 PM Every summer it is someone. Usually the driver gets out to take pics and the vehicle starts to roll back.
The driver should always be the first in and last out. Seems simple but you would not believe the sh&t I've seen people do.
FullsizeYota 12-22-2004, 03:47 PM why do all the cool threads die so fast??? i wanna hear about CARNAGE!
Toploader 12-22-2004, 04:03 PM The worst I have seen was my friend Reed in his 55 roll down 5 fingers at hollister. It was the hill climb to the right of it actually. He got to the top and started spinning his tires, throttle was stuck wide open, and in a panic dumped the clutch in reverse and it slid sideways into a rut. He rolled 8-9 times almost all the way to the bottom. The were both crouched down below the dash as the roof was smashed in to the top of the seats. Luckily one door was torn open from the hinges and they were able to climb out. Luckily both my friends were allright.
I got to be the one to pull him down the rest of the way on his lid and upright it.
The look on peoples faces as we towed it back through camp was priceless.
dieselcruiserhead 12-22-2004, 04:40 PM James that broken t case is KNARLY! :flipoff2:
Rascal 12-22-2004, 05:46 PM :D this is good stuff............ rascal what was the "special tool"?
The L shaped treaded cross pin removal tool for a rear ARB :emb2: Learned a good lesson that night - thankfully I have some really good friends who helped me out!
Rascal 12-22-2004, 05:58 PM Every summer it is someone. Usually the driver gets out to take pics and the vehicle starts to roll back.
The driver should always be the first in and last out. Seems simple but you would not believe the sh&t I've seen people do.
FWIW
Dan Gluklick and his family were from Colorado Springs. Last I heard the two kids were still surviving. Dan and his wife Jeanine were killed.
Dan helped me purchase my FJ40 (Rascal) by scouting it out in the Springs. He was a close friend of a friend... According to my friend, Dan had pulled over to let an oncoming Suburban pass. As he was getting back on the trail they went over. The rest you can see in the pictures. The Suburban never stopped...
Good people.
ppillard 12-22-2004, 06:18 PM near my hometown this jeep went off the trail and came to rest some 1000 feet down the mountain. Imogene is the name of the trial. Everyone in the vehicle died.
I've been over Imogene. 14K feet up. Absolutely beautiful, and kinda creepy. I had a full cage, and 5 pt harnesses. My wife looked over that thousand foot ledge and asked if we should put on the shoulder straps. I told her (with a smile and some gentle reassurance), in the event we went over, it really wouldn't matter how many straps we had on.
Just in case anyone was wondering, we didn't go over... :D
rockthedog 12-22-2004, 06:25 PM i remember reading about that tragedy.......... that is a sad fact of our sport. i haave relatives in black forest and montrose and have been wanting to go wheeling there, but that black bear, imogene and engineer pass stuff is too much pucker factor ....... the dog thread was sad enough so lets try and keep the carnage to non- fatal
it's been a crappy three weeks for me......3 friends died...
i wanna see some rigs crackin :D
GreenPig 12-22-2004, 06:56 PM I don't usually wheel with other people, but the worst was the infamous Jeff Zepp and his dual busting differentials during CM2002. Never seen a carrier just break like that.
rockthedog 12-22-2004, 07:07 PM now you gotta give more details than that pig!
texican 12-22-2004, 07:41 PM I don't usually wheel with other people, but the worst was the infamous Jeff Zepp and his dual busting differentials during CM2002. Never seen a carrier just break like that.
We should have left his sorry ass on the mountain :D :D
Aggro 12-22-2004, 07:49 PM Best I could come up with on short notice...
3", http://img141.exs.cx/img141/562/brokdshaft7ht.jpg 1/4 wall...
Aggro 12-22-2004, 07:52 PM Adding insult to injury... letting it roll back to level ground and having the sharp end ofhttp://img141.exs.cx/img141/7697/brokdshaft13ly.jpg the shaft KILL all electrical and hydraulics...
OnTheSpot 12-23-2004, 01:19 AM Rascal, been there done that also. Two pinions in two days on the 'Con with my passenger and myself to fix it. It is also not a good thing to work on your rig in the dark because, while, they kind of fall over. But luckily not on anyone.
Here is the first break site with the only thing holding it up being the tires I stuffed under it.
OnTheSpot 12-23-2004, 01:31 AM break site number 2. I was with 3 other rigs but they went up the trail ahead of me thinking I would catch up, ha fooled them. :laughing:
OnTheSpot 12-23-2004, 01:38 AM :nuke: ...
fj40tom 12-23-2004, 06:17 AM http://www.southernhighrollers.com/trails/articles/poteau_2001_roll.htm
This is from a guy that Havis, Texican's daughter, and I were running with in Poteau, OK. Havis got the guy sqared away and towed him back to where he could get his trailer into.
Cheers,
tp
mantis 12-23-2004, 06:19 AM What started it? :eek:
Total loss?
He was climbing a hill, and couldn't make it, so he started winching up the hill. Somehow gas started leaking out of his tank and ignited. The soft top went up in a flash. The winch shorted and kept reeling in. There was a ledge at the top fo the climb that the jeep got wedged against, and not being able to stop winching the cable snapped and his jeep tumbled all the way down the hill to where the pic was taken.
Pretty much saved the driveline, frame, axles, etc. Body was a total loss. :p
CaverInaCruiser 12-23-2004, 07:36 AM James that broken t case is KNARLY! :flipoff2:
:confused:
Hey! It's the worst trail carnage *I* have ever seen...
:flipoff2:
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 03:34 PM THis is the worst I ever saw after the fact, I was not there at the time but was in Moab when it happened and it was the talk of the town. I took these pictures last winter. EVERYONE LIVED! :eek:
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 03:36 PM other
RClivin 12-23-2004, 04:22 PM is that a 60?
rockthedog 12-23-2004, 04:24 PM i think it's a 4runner
65-fj45 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM I think it was a 4runner
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM Nope a runner
Cruiser Ken 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM 4runner I think.
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 04:26 PM Here is a close up
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 04:30 PM You would not beleive how picked through it has been... pretty much everything worth anything is gone.
Pretty scarry looking when you are right there. Just thinking what it must have been like to fall off a cliff like that.
cruiseroutfit 12-23-2004, 04:57 PM THis is the worst I ever saw after the fact, I was not there at the time but was in Moab when it happened and it was the talk of the town. I took these pictures last winter. The driver died but 3 others lived.
They all lived AFAIK... That was crappy, we were stuck up there for several hours while emergency crews worked...
Check out this site:
http://www.moabtimes.com/issues/2002/020404/images/lionsback.html
Pinion 12-23-2004, 06:38 PM :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Got to be, hands down, dumbest question ever asked here on the forum :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
RustyNailJustin 12-23-2004, 06:53 PM They all lived AFAIK... That was crappy, we were stuck up there for several hours while emergency crews worked...
Check out this site:
http://www.moabtimes.com/issues/2002/020404/images/lionsback.html
No shit? Wow thats amazing! I was in Moab when it happened and at first the word was everyone died then it was just the driver died, then when I saw the rig first hand it made sense the driver would have been killed. Glad to hear it and finally get the truth. Sorry for the false info. I feel like Dan Rather :clown2:
85blue4runner 12-23-2004, 08:50 PM A friend shows up at my place in a relatively new Discovery that he's testing for the weekend and wants to do some light wheeling. We take it out to some farmland, it starts pouring, the sun is going down and the temps are dropping. His father in law drives an hour to get us in his F250, but is only on all terrain type tires and the disco is buried up to its axles in mud. I call another friend who drives about an hour also and straps us out with a 40 on 38's. We spent hours cleaning the Disco and only managed to scratch up the wheels, tires and running boards, ripped off a mudflap and broke a hub cover on the rear wheel. He returned it to the dealer on Monday and told them that his wife did not like the truck..
The worst Cruiser carnage I ever saw was Tracy Jordons rig at a run in Parker Az....The trail is called "Presidents Choice"..the obstical is called "The Escatalor"...He rolled over backwards and it burned right there...I've done that trail..pretty scary climb......No pix :( ..But here is one of mine.
Eskimo 12-24-2004, 11:32 AM Rascal, been there done that also. Two pinions in two days on the 'Con with my passenger and myself to fix it.
Got a wrap bar in there now? :)
rockthedog 12-24-2004, 03:51 PM is nolen out of town........or did i miss his contribution........ he must have volumes of material :D
so far the worst pics imo are by far the long falls of course, but a little disturbing :(
but the most striking photo is that rig on fire , that is ghastly :smokin:
keep m' coming!
toy4fun 12-24-2004, 04:21 PM :confused:
Hey! It's the worst trail carnage *I* have ever seen...
:flipoff2:
:shaking: :flipoff2:
RustyNailJustin 12-24-2004, 04:38 PM Looks like the exit to hells revenge
CaverInaCruiser 12-24-2004, 04:54 PM Looks like the exit to hells revenge
Toy4Fun: :flipoff2:
Rusty:
It is the exit to Hells Revenge.
That's my truck, but my dad tipped it over (see sig line).
After about 2 hours we got about 2 dozen people on it and just lifted it back up. We let the oil drain for a bit, lit it up. Drove it down to the bottom, walked back up and picked up the rest of the pieces.
My father and I drove the truck back to Salt Lake the next day.
Paul (the guy that broke the t-case in half) had to be trailered home...
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OnTheSpot 12-25-2004, 01:02 PM Eskimo: Got a wrap bar in there now?
First thing I did when I got back.... should have put one in before.
Boston Mangler 12-25-2004, 01:33 PM Worst Trail Carnage I ever saw wasnt to a rig, but to a fellow wheelers Eye Socket via the hi-lift jack handle about 3 years ago! We drove up to the incident about 30 mins after it happened (different group)! 2 people on scene lost their stomachs and i personally didnt even look, the mess was enough! if you search around the Land Rover New England pages, there is still info on that mess! BE CAREFUL with those things!!!!
Also, was standing right next to a guy that got a hot chunk of exploding jeep driveshaft lodged about 3/4" into his shin. Fox you here? I think you were standing next to me as well! Long time ago when ya had black and tan on Mabell!
wayneraintree 12-26-2004, 07:38 PM This happened at the BHCC a few years ago in the badlands when the trail was open with permission (no longer the case from what I understand)....driver simply descended at an angle and flop! :eek:
http://www.birfield.com/albums/South-Dakota/whoops_II.sized.jpg
Everyone was OK and the cruiser toured the campgound the following day...great sports were all the people who helped right the cruiser and get it running again.
zuksofhazzard 12-27-2004, 09:50 AM Here is a close up
We were there the weekend it happened. Didn't see it happen, but climbed to it after the crowds settled. My friend has the license plate form it.
cruisn inline 12-27-2004, 10:54 AM A couple of months ago at Hollister we had about five rigs driving up the jungle and my we stop to let the rest of the guys catch up. All of a sudden this crapokee comes rolling down at us and is making awful noises. This thing looks BUILT (chopped top, full exo cage 35” swampers, bumpers, sliders, bla, bla, bla, bla) but right when we walk up to the guy his front coil and spacer flys at us. We soon figure out that this guy does not speak English nor does any of his five passengers! None of us really speak Spanish except my dad (who works in the trades). A quick exam reveals that the front driveline is rubbing a hole through the oil pan, the battery is shot, the tranny is dropping ATF and will not go into anything but reverse (yes he was rolling down at us), soon a d35 pinion would explode, followed by the alternator. In short it took us several hours in the rain to drag him to the next bypass. Once at the bypass it took a f-250 and a Tahoe to yank him out of the trail. It was dark now and we had to leave, but we were short one rig ( a cj-5). We walked down the trail a ways and found him fixing a driveline. Next a tj in the group snaped a d44 shaft. Needless to say the yota guys didn’t do much wheeling that day…
2k3r1 11-08-2005, 10:06 PM 1-3/4 barrel roll down a 15' steep incline into a 36"+ deep creek....landed on the passnger side, my wife UNDER water....she opened her eyes as she undid her seatbelt, and blew bubbles so she knew which way was up....
Thats freaking hilarious that she had to blow bubbles to know which way was up. Only ofcourse becuase no-one was seriousy hurt. Seriously that made me laugh out loud! :) Situational irony...
shains91 11-08-2005, 10:39 PM During the Easter Jeep Safari this year I was weheeling with a friend who was in a Samurai. On the waterfall on Poision Spider Mesa he sheered some teeth off of the rear ring gear and busted both front birfields. It was fun towing him off of the trail.
Rascal 11-08-2005, 11:50 PM Update - Pinion in Moab was Child's play.
Last Spring at the Tinbenders run @ the Hammers on the Gate Keeper to Wrecking Ball - all at one time:
DS Rear Leaf Spring
DS Rear Axle
PS LongField (1st Gen)
PS Motor mount.
Had a lot of help from a bunch of people and was running the next day. Driving 1200 miles (one way) to break on the morning of the second day sucked!
That led to this:D http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=51130
rockthedog 11-10-2005, 10:39 AM well now that this year old thread has been dragged up from the depths, there has to have been some new contributions out there....my summer was pretty tame with no huge breakage by me (for a change:D ) and just a few flops by some of my buddies.....no names...................................BK , and Josh x2, sorry fellas.:D
wngrog 11-10-2005, 11:39 AM Update - Pinion in Moab was Child's play.
Last Spring at the Tinbenders run @ the Hammers on the Gate Keeper to Wrecking Ball - all at one time:
DS Rear Leaf Spring
DS Rear Axle
PS LongField (1st Gen)
PS Motor mount.
Had a lot of help from a bunch of people and was running the next day. Driving 1200 miles (one way) to break on the morning of the second day sucked!
That led to this:D http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=51130
I did not realize this was such an old thread and when I read Rascals PUSSY ASS Pritchet Canyon contribution I was wondering what the hell he was smoking to make that worse than his trifecta in Johnson Valley.
Hands dow, Rascals break was the worst single moment in a Cruiser's life that I have witnessed.
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