couldnt pass it up.... complete need computer.......... hmmm do i put it in the tj? or save it for a future buggy? either way i got it... :D hell i already got the 435 tranny too ..... Yeaaaahhh

What year, how many miles, what did it come out of?
Its a great Jeep engine.

not sure of year but it is the newer rounded style stang... the last ones the 5.0 come in... 90,000 miles runs strong... but will be tweaked before i put it in

I got a 5.0 too

I call it a International 304

I know a guy with a 5.0 he calls it a GM 305 :flipoff2:

im wondering how complicated it will be to put in a tj.... thinking of loosing the entire dash......... making my own, running mechanical gauges and such.... using the stang computer only... and loosing all of the jeeep computer shiat....

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
im wondering how complicated it will be to put in a tj.... thinking of loosing the entire dash......... making my own, running mechanical gauges and such.... using the stang computer only... and loosing all of the jeeep computer shiat....


The 5.0 HO is a stand alone engine, contrary to what most mechanical dinosaurs think?
It basicly needs: Its dedicated engine harness and computer, the engine mounted sensors, ignition, and FI, a dedicated hot, a start, run source, and 2 dedictaed grounds. The rest is sensors for gauges, and a relay for the fuel pump.
You realy dont need to go nuts on the 5.0 for a jeep application. A few bolt on upgrades, flow match the manifold to the heads, a cam change,and adjust the sensor to within their parameters, and you can get an easy 275 hp to the rear wheels, and 325 plus ft/lbs.
The long runners of the 5.0 intake manifold gives it awsome torque, which is one reason, why it is so strong in its stock configuration.
Just beware, you can buy a "Ford 5.0" magazine, and get caught up in an engine build up that will cost thousands and net 425hp. You really dont need it. Its a very strong engine out of the factory.

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
couldnt pass it up.... complete need computer.......... hmmm do i put it in the tj? or save it for a future buggy? either way i got it... :D hell i already got the 435 tranny too ..... Yeaaaahhh
Hey Bud get ahold of "hip" on this board, he just put a 5.0 fuelie in his jeep.
He should be able to help you out, his is Saweeet..

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
I got a 5.0 too

I call it a International 304

I know a guy with a 5.0 he calls it a GM 305 :flipoff2:


All childs play, compared to what the gearheads at the track are doing with the 5.0.
There are some companies/race teams out of Texas, that are turning 200 mph/ 6 second ETs in 5.0 Pro Street.
But thats beside the point. It is just a great strong reliable engine, with one of the best engine control computers ever invented.
And the damn thing will run upside down, with decent oil pressure.
Im sure your 304 runs great too as long as the driveway isnt too steep. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by H8monday



The 5.0 HO is a stand alone engine, contrary to what most mechanical dinosaurs think?
It basicly needs: Its dedicated engine harness and computer, the engine mounted sensors, ignition, and FI, a dedicated hot, a start, run source, and 2 dedictaed grounds. The rest is sensors for gauges, and a relay for the fuel pump.
You realy dont need to go nuts on the 5.0 for a jeep application. A few bolt on upgrades, flow match the manifold to the heads, a cam change,and adjust the sensor to within their parameters, and you can get an easy 275 hp to the rear wheels, and 325 plus ft/lbs.
The long runners of the 5.0 intake manifold gives it awsome torque, which is one reason, why it is so strong in its stock configuration.
Just beware, you can buy a "Ford 5.0" magazine, and get caught up in an engine build up that will cost thousands and net 425hp. You really dont need it. Its a very strong engine out of the factory.

thats good to know.... but the tj gaiges might be a bitch to get to work.... ill go all mechanical and loose all the jeep puters and such. as far as performance mods.... i wont go over board, ill just look for a torquey cam and a few other things..... do you use the factory computer or did ya get an aftermarket one?

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
not sure of year but it is the newer rounded style stang... the last ones the 5.0 come in... 90,000 miles runs strong... but will be tweaked before i put it in

'95 was the last year of the 5.0's. '96 and up are the 4.6L

I put a 93 in my wrangler a few months ago and man is it awesome. I fits into a wrangler beter than the factory 4 banger.

Congrats and enjoy the benefits ;)

Originally posted by badassjeepguy


thats good to know.... but the tj gaiges might be a bitch to get to work.... ill go all mechanical and loose all the jeep puters and such. as far as performance mods.... i wont go over board, ill just look for a torquey cam and a few other things..... do you use the factory computer or did ya get an aftermarket one?


I use a 93 Cobra computer from Ford Racing.
The 89 automatic, computer and the 93 Cobra, are widely considered the strongest power band programming.
I use after market gauges also.
I get some of my performance parts,from Ford Racing such as the cam, injectors, wiring harness, and computer. I bought a complete Cobra manifold and plennum kit from a guy in Vegas for pennies on the buck(but i havent gotten around to installing it yet)
The 73mm mass air meter I, got from Vortec.
the fuel pump and regulator are BBK.
I run an MSD ignition, and plug wires.
Ill probably use a Ford Racing 65mm throttle body, and EGR spacer, when I finaly get around to installing the Cobra Manifold.
Ive been slowly gathering the Cobra mainfold related parts, and will install them when I have the time. But like I said earlier, the engine is strong from the factory, and can be made very torquey with just a few mods.

a 5.0 is a good strong engine that should do you well. A good board to go to if you are looking for performance and reliablility upgrades is www.corral.net its full of mustang ppl of course. I'm also into 79-present mustangs rather heavlily myself (i own 5, my dad has 2), so if you have any questions about anything to do with the engine and wiring and such, feel free to give me an email and i'll do what i can to help you or try to point you to where someone can help. Also, you can usually sell off any spare parts you have to 5.0 guys if its in good shape (esp if you got the whole car to part out) Another thing, the "5.0" came in many forms. The most desirable stockers for us are the 87-92 engines, because they came with a better flowing intake, a 2mm larger throttle body and had forged pistons (93-95 have hypers.) 1986 was the first year of EFI, but the heads kinda suck and the intake/tb isn't as good, plus they have flattop pistons that aren't headswap/cam friendly. 89-95 (88 california) also had Mass Air, vs speed density, and are MUCH more friendly to mods. 1985 was also the first year of the "roller" cam engines and the last year of carbs, also had better heads than the 86. and don't be afraid of an engine with over 100k miles on it, i've seen these cars last to 300k with ungodly abuse. Once again, give me an email or private message i'll help anyone out as much as i can on any 5.0 related stuff. Hope i provided something useful here :)

Originally posted by badassjeepguy


thats good to know.... but the tj gaiges might be a bitch to get to work.... ill go all mechanical and loose all the jeep puters and such. as far as performance mods.... i wont go over board, ill just look for a torquey cam and a few other things..... do you use the factory computer or did ya get an aftermarket one?

Wouldn't mess with the cam just yet. Lots of other things that are a lot cheaper and easier to do with big returns. If you're getting to the point of messing withe cam and such, you're probably building more motor than you'll ever really want. Sounds like you should really get in touch with roadburner.

Hey roadburner, quick FYI for ya: out here in CA at least, 85 was the first year of EFI. (used to have a 20th Anniv. Ed., still like the throaty purr on the carb over EFI :smokin: )

Ok ok, technically you are correct, EFI was used on earlier cars, as throttle body injection, also called "CFI" or "Central Fuel Injection" Tho, us mustang pps generally try to forget about that cause those cars were weird and rated at nearly 20hp less and have little performance potential w/out removing the pos CFI :P Those were only in automatic cars tho and thankfully ford ditched that setup in 86 when they went SEFI. :D (lets see how many CFI ppl i can make mad here :evil: )

but the tj gaiges might be a bitch to get to work.... ill go all mechanical and loose all the jeep puters and such

Why bother? YOu ought to be able to adapt your Jeep sensors (oil pressure, water temp) to the 5.0 with a couple of cheap brass fittings. Then your guages will work just like they do now. The 5.0 will have a different operating temp and pressure, but they'll be well within the display range of your guages.

You should also be able to reuse your tach, with a relatively simple electrical mod to the guage. This works for any V8 swap in a CJ or YJ. There's more info in my swap writeup (misc section) on my page.

Chris (it worked for me, at any rate)

Man, I hope you're not still making payments on that heep of yours. Your banker would shiat twice and die if he ever saw it.

Hey congrats Rob, that's a kick-ass motor.
Just don't tell me what you paid for it ya damn deal hound. :flipoff2:
I'm with you on the custom dash, My future plans include that for mine.

go for it...put it in the tj. the only thing i still have to work out is the gas tank level. if your tj had the fuel pump in the tank you dont have to change that then the fuel gauge will still work with the tj gauges. the only part that was hard for me was the wiring, i have a mechanical background and wiring scares me. i had a coupla buddies that helped and it was only like 6 wires to splice together. i love it......

No one has seemed to mention this but is this an OBD II mustang 5.0... it can be done but not nearly the quantity of info out there.

BUY the book "Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control" by Charles Probst. You'll never regret it.

I Believe if the motor came out of round 94-95 stang you have an OBD II motor... The harness, computer and injectors (I think the Injectors) are the major differences than the 89-93 mass air set ups. I would consider buying the motorsport harness (there are two needed) and earlier computer just because of the info and experience available. I'll give you a set of stock injectors if you need them.

My .02

Howard

yes buy the book and read it before you even start the swap. it gives you the entire picture of fuel injection. a real good wiring diagram of both vehicles would be very helpful along with a digital multi tester. correct voltage and ground connections are needed for this to work properly but the book explains all that in detail. good luck.

Originally posted by Mo
Man, I hope you're not still making payments on that heep of yours. Your banker would shiat twice and die if he ever saw it.

it was payed off in 1999... :D the swap is on hold..(something else brewin in my mind,,, hehehehehe).. yes doc, i got a deal.... :D ill hook you up just call

I droped mine in my bronco with 80k on it and it is still running strong as a daily driver 5 years later. Well now it is not a daily after last year but still. Much easier than a gm tbi swap. The motor witing is pretty well seperate with the exception of the gauges and fuel pump. The aftermarket intakes put out less torque than the factory ones... Great motor no complaints... Maybe go with a E series cam. But that's all you need. I dynoed mine with 350 gears and 33" tires and it only put out 156 at the wheels. it feels much better after the 4.56 gears even with the 36's