http://pak01.pictures.aol.com/NASApp/ygp/Login?event=ViewFilm&filmId=508.586.1103848789620.1&locale=en_US

It is driveable on the street as is. After I move the cab mounts rearward a few inches, it will be trail ready. Looks like sex on wheels doesn't it? :smokin:

Buford

That you got pictures thing ain't workin boss. You got another way I can see it, I'm interested.

email me the pics and I will post. recockulous@pirate4x4.com

there is a brand new f350 down here that some guy bought and chopped with a sawzall, he runs 44s stock. recently broke his front end too.

I emailed one picture to the kind gent who offered to post them. They work for me, when I click on the link. I put the same link on my club site. See if this link is dead too.

http://www.ohio4x4.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1305

I have the pictures in an aol photo album......maybe that's the problem. If someone has a few minutes to spare, send me an email on how to post a picture......without having someone else do all the work. :rolleyes:

Thanks,
Buford

nope still doesn't work

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there is a brand new f350 down here that some guy bought and chopped with a sawzall, he runs 44s stock. recently broke his front end too.

So this dude buys and cuts up a brand new F-350 SuperDuty, stuffs 44's on it, and breaks his front end?

Unless it's a dually, it should still have the D50 front axle. A stock 60 often isn't up to the task of 44's without upgraded axles. If "dude" can afford to hack up a brand new F-350 SuperDuty, "dude" can afford to upgrade his front end. :flipoff2:

Buford

Thanks MANTECA! I'll send a a couple more pictures within the hour. I have dial-up......living out in the sticks of Ohio, so it may take a while.

I appreciate you taking the time to make up for my computer illiteracy. :beer:

Buford

Nice front fenders :flipoff2: Yea, I've always loved the 42" tsl's, I prefer their width over the 44s.

It's cool looking, but I don't get it. Why 42's on an otherwise stock rig?

So this dude buys and cuts up a brand new F-350 SuperDuty, stuffs 44's on it, and breaks his front end?

Unless it's a dually, it should still have the D50 front axle. A stock 60 often isn't up to the task of 44's without upgraded axles. If "dude" can afford to hack up a brand new F-350 SuperDuty, "dude" can afford to upgrade his front end. :flipoff2:

Buford

If it 02-newer it would have a unit bearing 60 front ;)

A for effort on tire fitment.

It's cool looking, but I don't get it. Why 42's on an otherwise stock rig?

Stock Rig?

Dana 70 U rear: 1.5" axles, 35 spline in place of the stock D60 1.31" axles, 16 spline. Yes, according to the books, this axle should not be in the rear of my truck. It should have been 30 spline 1.31" axles. Add approximatley 80% strength in the axles alone. Stock?

Spicer 35 spline stubs: Stock?

Spicer 35 spline drive flanges: Stock?

460 engine: The engine is stock, ie: not built up for more power. However, a factory 460 Ford 4x4 wasn't available until 1983 or so. Stock?

4 wheel Disc Brakes: Stock?

Quadrajet carb on factory Ford 4bbl intake: Stock?

Piddly stuff:
Dual add-on transmission coolers: Stock?
Huge oil cooler utilized as a power steering cooler: Stock?
16" auxillary electric fan in front of the two trans coolers: Stock?
12K Electic Winch...granted it's junk, but will be fixed my the manufacturer in a week: Stock?
Saginaw Power Steering on a Ford truck: Stock?


I'd be willing to put my pile up against yours. I'd be willing to bet my pile would eat yours and ask for seconds. ;)

Buford

Roy, be careful challenging the big boys. and what do you mean your truck isn't stock, sure looks stock. my Barbie jeep could "eat your pile." :flipoff2:

ANYways....the point is that you don't often (if ever) see 42s on a Ford fullsize with no lift. Its pretty cool since you're taking steps to make it work; moving the cab mounts for example. No firewall issues? Lower center of gravity is our friend :D

ANYways....the point is that you don't often (if ever) see 42s on a Ford fullsize with no lift. Its pretty cool since you're taking steps to make it work; moving the cab mounts for example. I appreciate the compliment. No firewall issues? Well, I haven't wheeled it yet, but after the body mount "box" is removed, I should be good to go. If something is in the way, I'll cut it out. Lower center of gravity is our friend I agree 100%. :D


Lugie 98 TJ has wheeled with me a few times, drank cheap beer in my garage, and assisted in the wasted effort of "boring the Dana 60 rear spindle to accept 35 spline 1.5" axles." While we have completely different rigs, and have argued many times, we get along well enough...........when it comes to modding and wheeling our junk. :grinpimp:

Buford

Nice front fenders :flipoff2: Yea, I've always loved the 42" tsl's, I prefer their width over the 44s.
What width? :flipoff2: I highly doubt I'll be seeing you put those "little" tires back on your truck. :grinpimp:

Look man, STOCK gear ratio, STOCK t-case ratio/# of t-cases, STOCK transmission, STOCK suspension travel, STOCK wheelbase. Saginaw ps pumps were available STOCK but it's great you have one either way. I asked what for putting 42's on it. You seemed to have popped a gasket cuz I said stock and go listing all the stuff you put on it, but you never answered my question... Why? Your pos vs. my pos WHERE???

Look man, STOCK gear ratio, Is it ideal? No. I drive about 100 miles to and from my trail rides...no need to scream the engine getting there and back. STOCK t-case ratio/# of t-cases, I agree with you on this one, a Stazworks doubler is planned this spring. STOCK transmission Why change it?, STOCK suspension travel, RTI is around 950 with the stock suspension STOCK wheelbase Why change it? Saginaw ps pumps were available STOCK They were stock on large Ford/Lincoln/Mercury cars of the 70's, and they were available on vans.....I'm not doubting your claim, but I wasn't aware of them coming factory of Ford trucks but it's great you have one either way. I asked what for putting 42's on it.

1. Increased ground clearance.
2. I like the low COG, the wheelbase, and the fact that it has a definite sleeper look on the trail. It has shown up more than a few $30K-$50K Jeeps and left the owners scratching their heads. When this happens, their general response is, "It's a wheelbase thing." Different wheelbases are beneficial for different types of terrain. However, if the long wheelbase is always so desireable, why isn't everyone wheeling long-bed trucks?
3. My original plan was to run 38.5" Boggers on my old 16x8 wheels. Then I ran into a guy who knew a guy who new another dude who could get killer deals on TSL's direct from Interco. He couldn't get the deal on Boggers or IROKS.
4. The tires were brand new, stickers, teets, etc. These 42's were ordered for someone else, from the dude who can get them at cost/near cost. I originally wanted 39.5 TSL's, but it would have taken a month or two to get them. The original buyer backed out & left "dude" stuck with this set of 42's. The holidays were approaching, etc, etc. Bottom line: I bought (4) brand new 42's for $600.
5. The main reason was #4. :rolleyes: ;)

You seemed to have popped a gasket cuz I said stock and go listing all the stuff you put on it, but you never answered my question... Why? $600 for 42's....... :flipoff2: Your pos vs. my pos WHERE???

I do understand your point. I like it looking stock. It's good to be the underdog. If I remember correctly, you are in Oregon. I am in Ohio. It doesn't sound practical to have a wheel 'off at this time. :goofball:

Moab is close enough to half-way!!!

(stir, check, stir some more)

After 20 posts on this topic, I think I finally have a link that will work:

http://www.ohio4x4.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8463&sid=9e5204988537b2561f779b7641290e5b#8463

Buford

Dual tool boxes........Bitchin

























Nice Ford too :flipoff2:

It's cool looking, but I don't get it. Why 42's on an otherwise stock rig?

Actually, if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. You get the benefit of the bigger tires w/o the hassle and LACK of reliability that comes with the typical mods you'd find in conjunction with said rubber.

TEX

I don't dislike what Buford did, I just was wondering what the reasoning behind it was. He got around to telling me, it just took some time. That's cool. If I had #4 (above) I'd have jumped on em too. I think half the 950 RTI is frame flex but flex is flex. We'd definitely need a sponsor for the Buford-Bronco wheelin event.

I highly doubt I'll be seeing you put those "little" tires back on your truck. :grinpimp:

Well, those little 42 tsl's DO make much better street tires for running to the mall than my boggers :D

Sheep shaggin hippie :flipoff2:

edit: 950 rti!? I didn't see that? Makes me wonder what degree the ramp was.

A few guys in our club built a 33 degree ramp. The Ford scored 571. The old ramp standard used to be 20 degrees, before people started maxing out over 1000. The difference between a 33 degree ramp and a 20 degree ramp is 1.65. 571 x 1.65 = 942. So if I had my junk on a 20 degree ramp, it would have scored "about 950."

The following link has the scores of some of the guys in the club. I did have another link in the thread (that is now dead....deleted it trying post the cut fender pictures) that had three pictures of the Ford on the ramp. I still have the pictures in my computer. If someone wants to post them, I'll send the pictures in an email.

http://www.ohio4x4.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=932

BTW, 460 Bronco: I didn't mean to sound like a wanker, we're cool. :smokin:
And yes, the frame flex played a large part in the score. :D

Proeliator: I was originally guessing that it would score about a 550 on a 20 degree ramp. In the link above, there are some RTI scores from stock and mildy modded rigs from the early-mid 90's. Most of the solid axle trucks scored 450-550......that's what I was basing my original estimate of 550 from.

So it was 571 on a 33 degree ramp.

Buford

I sent the three pictures to Proeliator.

Thanks for the pics and explanation. Looks good man, pretty impressive. Yea, thats why I wondered about the ramp degree because you always see guys throwing rti #s out and they don't mean much for comparison unless you know what degree the ramp was. Anyways, looking good :smokin:

Thanks Proeliator, and the rest of you too.....Merry Christmas guys.

Buford

Merry Christmas bro.

So when are we headed out to Moab Roy? or you can join us at the Hammers next November. I wanna see some full bodied rigs run the hammers.

there is a brand new f350 down here that some guy bought and chopped with a sawzall, he runs 44s stock. recently broke his front end too.

actually hes running 39 IROKs