: 5 lug or 8 lug
Lozy01 02-10-2002, 07:57 AM I currently have 15x10 5 lug wheels, and it's looking like i will have to be buying 8 lug wheels. What are the odds of finding front and rear 5 lug 60. I pretty much know my answer there SOL. So are there any other ways to get around buying new wheels?? Or is 15 x 10 too small of a diamater for the 60 brakinig system. any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks again,
Lozy:beer:
Lozy01 02-11-2002, 04:22 PM I know sombody has some light to shed on the subject.
Lozy:beer:
saf-t scissors 02-11-2002, 04:47 PM What are you asking? If D60 rears with 5/5.5 exist? Well sure, but you're going to have to pay $$$ to somebody or build your own. Use a D60 housing with 9" BB ends and a 9" full-floater kit.
Front D60's can be done a couple of different ways. Do a search in General 4x4. The only one I remember is turning down a D60 hub and drilling for 5/5.5.
If you're going 8-lug, you'll have to convert the front too, and there aren't a lot of options for fitting 15" wheels. Chevy single-piston stuff can be ground down to clear 15" steel wheels, but that's about it. Some have found particular year single-piston stuff that works with lots of backspacing.
Lozy01 02-11-2002, 06:11 PM Well i guess the best way is to just buy new wheels which is no big deal i was just wanting to know my other options. thanks for the info
Lozy:beer:
Flatty 02-11-2002, 10:56 PM ACtually a J20 truck rear is 5 on 5.5, and when one side is narrowed, it comes to about the same width as a Bronco. They are stock 35 spline shafts semi float too.
Dimitri
Lozy01 02-12-2002, 10:02 AM What size wheel whould you suggest 16x10???
Lozy:beer:
tsm1mt 02-12-2002, 11:05 AM Originally posted by Lozy01
I currently have 15x10 5 lug wheels, and it's looking like i will have to be buying 8 lug wheels. What are the odds of finding front and rear 5 lug 60. I pretty much know my answer there SOL. So are there any other ways to get around buying new wheels?? Or is 15 x 10 too small of a diamater for the 60 brakinig system. any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks again,
Lozy:beer:
5 lug 60 rears are not *that* uncommon. I think you can find 'em under some F150s along with IH tow-pkg 1/2T Travelall and Pickups, plus the J trucks..
Of cousre, they're almost (barring the J trucks) all 30sp stuff.
Up front.. 5 on 5.5 60 would be a Dynarape kinda thing.
IMO, far cheaper to just buy new wheels.
If you can get the tires you want in a 16" size, go 16s and you won't have to clearance anything to clear your calipers.
Of course, Interco doesn't seem to make anything bigger than the 38x13x16 TSL for a 16" wheel, and if you go 16.5s you'll want beadlocks...
Talk about snowball effect. :D
mtadams 02-12-2002, 01:16 PM I put a Ford 10.25" in the rear of my 95 Bronco which is 8 lug. The 15x10 w/ 3.5" backspacing fit fine over the drums... However, the Dana 44 front converted to 8 lug with ford dual piston calipers required a minor (about 2-3 hours per side) or grinding. More than I wanted to grind that's for sure. Anyway, if you had 15x10s with 2.5" backspacing, you should fit over the dual piston with very minimal grinding at all.
-Matt
Lozy01 02-12-2002, 01:39 PM probably a dumb question but just thought i might ask a 35x12.5R15 wont fit on a 16" wheel will it?? yeah i know oh well i guess when i am doing the swap this summer i will have to sell my tires and wheels and get new ones. DAMN!
Lozy:mad3:
mtadams 02-12-2002, 03:34 PM Originally posted by Lozy01
probably a dumb question but just thought i might ask a 35x12.5R15 wont fit on a 16" wheel will it??
Lozy:mad3:
Nope.... sure won't...
-Matt
Dustball 02-12-2002, 03:40 PM Originally posted by mtadams
I put a Ford 10.25" in the rear of my 95 Bronco which is 8 lug. The 15x10 w/ 3.5" backspacing fit fine over the drums... However, the Dana 44 front converted to 8 lug with ford dual piston calipers required a minor (about 2-3 hours per side) or grinding. More than I wanted to grind that's for sure. Anyway, if you had 15x10s with 2.5" backspacing, you should fit over the dual piston with very minimal grinding at all.
-Matt
Whoa... you used Ford parts to do an 8-lug swap? I couldn't find any way to do that so I ended up using Chevy 3/4 ton parts, was still an easy swap anyways.
Lozy01 02-12-2002, 04:00 PM Yeah i was just in denial well here in Sept will anyone be interested in 4 35x12.5R15 goodyear MT/R's on Mickey Thompson Classic II 15x10's
Lozy:beer:
mtadams 02-12-2002, 04:32 PM Originally posted by Dustball
Whoa... you used Ford parts to do an 8-lug swap? I couldn't find any way to do that so I ended up using Chevy 3/4 ton parts, was still an easy swap anyways.
Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...
-Matt
AZFord4x4 02-13-2002, 04:24 AM A 15" wheel with 2.5" backspacing willl clear the twin piston calipers with no grinding.
mtadams 02-13-2002, 09:29 AM Originally posted by Fullsizes Rule
A 15" wheel with 2.5" backspacing willl clear the twin piston calipers with no grinding.
Yup... that's what I thought :sigh:
Unfortunately with the bad planning on my part, I already had brand new 3.5" backspaced rims. :( :(
-Matt
Dustball 02-13-2002, 06:55 PM Originally posted by mtadams
Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...
-Matt
Oh, I knew about that swap. I wasn't sure which 44 you had. :emb:
clc900 02-17-2002, 03:12 PM Originally posted by mtadams
Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...
-Matt
Can you just swap the 8 lug rotors and keep all the 5 lug stuff, meaning calipers, spindles, caliper brackets? I have a 5 lug D44 I want to convert to 8 lug. Is the way listed above the ONLY way to do the swap (using everything from spindles to brakes)?
Does this make sense?
clc900, you'll have to be more specific about WHAT you want to convert to 8 lugs? A solid D44, or TTB? And before someone asks, TTB=Twin Traction Beam=Ford's IFS from '80-96. You can convert either, but they're both gonna require spindle-out, minimum.
emsoffroad 02-17-2002, 08:55 PM Originally posted by Flatty
ACtually a J20 truck rear is 5 on 5.5, and when one side is narrowed, it comes to about the same width as a Bronco. They are stock 35 spline shafts semi float too.
Dimitri
All J20s will be 8 lug. You are thinking of the older J4000.
clc900 02-18-2002, 09:46 AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by D60
but they're both gonna require spindle-out, minimum. [/
That answers my question, Thanks.
mtadams 02-18-2002, 12:25 PM Originally posted by clc900
Can you just swap the 8 lug rotors and keep all the 5 lug stuff, meaning calipers, spindles, caliper brackets? I have a 5 lug D44 I want to convert to 8 lug. Is the way listed above the ONLY way to do the swap (using everything from spindles to brakes)?
Does this make sense?
Definitely requires spindle, bearings, hub, rotors.... by using the 8 lug rotor, that requires the new calipers as well.
-Matt
Rubicrawler 02-19-2002, 09:29 AM You never said what this axle is going into. But have you considered just building a 9"? 35 spline axles, your choice of locker from a spool to an ARB, full floater's, you name it. You can build a 9" pretty damn strong today.
This come from a guy that had a D60 built for his EB several years ago. If I had it to do all over again, I'd go 9". Just my .02 worth:)
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