: 5 lug or 8 lug


Lozy01
02-10-2002, 07:57 AM
I currently have 15x10 5 lug wheels, and it's looking like i will have to be buying 8 lug wheels. What are the odds of finding front and rear 5 lug 60. I pretty much know my answer there SOL. So are there any other ways to get around buying new wheels?? Or is 15 x 10 too small of a diamater for the 60 brakinig system. any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks again,
Lozy:beer:

Lozy01
02-11-2002, 04:22 PM
I know sombody has some light to shed on the subject.


Lozy:beer:

saf-t scissors
02-11-2002, 04:47 PM
What are you asking? If D60 rears with 5/5.5 exist? Well sure, but you're going to have to pay $$$ to somebody or build your own. Use a D60 housing with 9" BB ends and a 9" full-floater kit.

Front D60's can be done a couple of different ways. Do a search in General 4x4. The only one I remember is turning down a D60 hub and drilling for 5/5.5.

If you're going 8-lug, you'll have to convert the front too, and there aren't a lot of options for fitting 15" wheels. Chevy single-piston stuff can be ground down to clear 15" steel wheels, but that's about it. Some have found particular year single-piston stuff that works with lots of backspacing.

Lozy01
02-11-2002, 06:11 PM
Well i guess the best way is to just buy new wheels which is no big deal i was just wanting to know my other options. thanks for the info

Lozy:beer:

Flatty
02-11-2002, 10:56 PM
ACtually a J20 truck rear is 5 on 5.5, and when one side is narrowed, it comes to about the same width as a Bronco. They are stock 35 spline shafts semi float too.

Dimitri

Lozy01
02-12-2002, 10:02 AM
What size wheel whould you suggest 16x10???

Lozy:beer:

tsm1mt
02-12-2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Lozy01
I currently have 15x10 5 lug wheels, and it's looking like i will have to be buying 8 lug wheels. What are the odds of finding front and rear 5 lug 60. I pretty much know my answer there SOL. So are there any other ways to get around buying new wheels?? Or is 15 x 10 too small of a diamater for the 60 brakinig system. any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks again,
Lozy:beer:

5 lug 60 rears are not *that* uncommon. I think you can find 'em under some F150s along with IH tow-pkg 1/2T Travelall and Pickups, plus the J trucks..

Of cousre, they're almost (barring the J trucks) all 30sp stuff.

Up front.. 5 on 5.5 60 would be a Dynarape kinda thing.

IMO, far cheaper to just buy new wheels.

If you can get the tires you want in a 16" size, go 16s and you won't have to clearance anything to clear your calipers.

Of course, Interco doesn't seem to make anything bigger than the 38x13x16 TSL for a 16" wheel, and if you go 16.5s you'll want beadlocks...

Talk about snowball effect. :D

mtadams
02-12-2002, 01:16 PM
I put a Ford 10.25" in the rear of my 95 Bronco which is 8 lug. The 15x10 w/ 3.5" backspacing fit fine over the drums... However, the Dana 44 front converted to 8 lug with ford dual piston calipers required a minor (about 2-3 hours per side) or grinding. More than I wanted to grind that's for sure. Anyway, if you had 15x10s with 2.5" backspacing, you should fit over the dual piston with very minimal grinding at all.

-Matt

Lozy01
02-12-2002, 01:39 PM
probably a dumb question but just thought i might ask a 35x12.5R15 wont fit on a 16" wheel will it?? yeah i know oh well i guess when i am doing the swap this summer i will have to sell my tires and wheels and get new ones. DAMN!

Lozy:mad3:

mtadams
02-12-2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Lozy01
probably a dumb question but just thought i might ask a 35x12.5R15 wont fit on a 16" wheel will it??

Lozy:mad3:

Nope.... sure won't...

-Matt

Dustball
02-12-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by mtadams
I put a Ford 10.25" in the rear of my 95 Bronco which is 8 lug. The 15x10 w/ 3.5" backspacing fit fine over the drums... However, the Dana 44 front converted to 8 lug with ford dual piston calipers required a minor (about 2-3 hours per side) or grinding. More than I wanted to grind that's for sure. Anyway, if you had 15x10s with 2.5" backspacing, you should fit over the dual piston with very minimal grinding at all.

-Matt

Whoa... you used Ford parts to do an 8-lug swap? I couldn't find any way to do that so I ended up using Chevy 3/4 ton parts, was still an easy swap anyways.

Lozy01
02-12-2002, 04:00 PM
Yeah i was just in denial well here in Sept will anyone be interested in 4 35x12.5R15 goodyear MT/R's on Mickey Thompson Classic II 15x10's

Lozy:beer:

mtadams
02-12-2002, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Dustball


Whoa... you used Ford parts to do an 8-lug swap? I couldn't find any way to do that so I ended up using Chevy 3/4 ton parts, was still an easy swap anyways.

Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...

-Matt

AZFord4x4
02-13-2002, 04:24 AM
A 15" wheel with 2.5" backspacing willl clear the twin piston calipers with no grinding.

mtadams
02-13-2002, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Fullsizes Rule
A 15" wheel with 2.5" backspacing willl clear the twin piston calipers with no grinding.


Yup... that's what I thought :sigh:

Unfortunately with the bad planning on my part, I already had brand new 3.5" backspaced rims. :( :(

-Matt

Dustball
02-13-2002, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by mtadams


Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...

-Matt

Oh, I knew about that swap. I wasn't sure which 44 you had. :emb:

clc900
02-17-2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by mtadams


Yep... I have a 79 F150 D44 in the front. I threw spindles, caliper brackets, dual piston calipers, hubs, rotors, and bearings off a 79 f250.... everything bolted on just fine once I got all of the proper parts from the parts stores..... the only problem was fitting the 15" hub over the calipers...

-Matt

Can you just swap the 8 lug rotors and keep all the 5 lug stuff, meaning calipers, spindles, caliper brackets? I have a 5 lug D44 I want to convert to 8 lug. Is the way listed above the ONLY way to do the swap (using everything from spindles to brakes)?

Does this make sense?

D60
02-17-2002, 08:50 PM
clc900, you'll have to be more specific about WHAT you want to convert to 8 lugs? A solid D44, or TTB? And before someone asks, TTB=Twin Traction Beam=Ford's IFS from '80-96. You can convert either, but they're both gonna require spindle-out, minimum.

emsoffroad
02-17-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Flatty
ACtually a J20 truck rear is 5 on 5.5, and when one side is narrowed, it comes to about the same width as a Bronco. They are stock 35 spline shafts semi float too.

Dimitri

All J20s will be 8 lug. You are thinking of the older J4000.

clc900
02-18-2002, 09:46 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by D60
but they're both gonna require spindle-out, minimum. [/

That answers my question, Thanks.

mtadams
02-18-2002, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by clc900


Can you just swap the 8 lug rotors and keep all the 5 lug stuff, meaning calipers, spindles, caliper brackets? I have a 5 lug D44 I want to convert to 8 lug. Is the way listed above the ONLY way to do the swap (using everything from spindles to brakes)?

Does this make sense?

Definitely requires spindle, bearings, hub, rotors.... by using the 8 lug rotor, that requires the new calipers as well.

-Matt

Rubicrawler
02-19-2002, 09:29 AM
You never said what this axle is going into. But have you considered just building a 9"? 35 spline axles, your choice of locker from a spool to an ARB, full floater's, you name it. You can build a 9" pretty damn strong today.

This come from a guy that had a D60 built for his EB several years ago. If I had it to do all over again, I'd go 9". Just my .02 worth:)