: Superduty Lift questions...


Souperfly79
12-24-2004, 02:01 PM
Aight, here it goes.

I'm in Iraq, back in Jan and buying a lift off a friend. It is an Explorer Pro Compo 6.5" and he's running it on a Powerstroke, Crew Cab long bed. I will also be buying a 4" set of shackels with hangers to make the lift 10.5" and looking to run 37" - 39"s. I was informed by another Superduty owner that running any lift over 8" will require cross over steering.

So if its true, I don't plan on buying the shackels/hangers and just running the 6.5" lift. My truck is a V10 ext cab short bed. I heard that you can add 2" to any lift being it is a V10 instead of a PS. With that in mind can I get away with just the 6.5" lift and 37"s? He is currently running 36x15" SSR's with slight rubbing. Whatta ya think?

BTW, it just turned midnight here in Iraq, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Souperfly79
12-24-2004, 07:50 PM
Bueller, anyone???

FordCarnage
12-24-2004, 08:29 PM
37's will fit just fawkin fabulous with 6.5" of lift. You would have gotten a faster response in the newbie section.

Souperfly79
12-25-2004, 11:19 AM
37's will fit just fawkin fabulous with 6.5" of lift. You would have gotten a faster response in the newbie section.

Thanks, I guess.....


I figured a Ford specific question would belong in a Ford specific category, but hey, sometimes I'm wrong I guess.. :rolleyes: I've been a member of plenty of forums, and all are a little different I guess...

Anyone else know if 8" or more require a cross over stearing mod? I prefer to go 10.5" with 39.5"s, but I can settle for just 6.5" of lift...

Greatlakeoffroad
12-25-2004, 11:32 AM
Well, if its like my 02 PS I run 4" lift and 35's, there is slight rubbing on the rear side of the front inner fenders when you turn sharp. We are also running 10" wide rims. But I'm looking at moving the axle forward about 3/4" to clear the rear inner fender as there is tons of room front side of the wheel. I would think this relation would be the same w/ 36's/37's and 6" of lift. And as far as any of you other guys flaming this dude. As far as I'm concerned you can go jump in a freezing lake or wake up & show some RESPECT. Because of his sacrifices we are able to celebrate this holiday w/ our families. Peace and God Bless and I hope you make it home safely to finish this project. Shawn

Thanks, I guess.....


I figured a Ford specific question would belong in a Ford specific category, but hey, sometimes I'm wrong I guess.. :rolleyes: I've been a member of plenty of forums, and all are a little different I guess...

Anyone else know if 8" or more require a cross over stearing mod? I prefer to go 10.5" with 39.5"s, but I can settle for just 6.5" of lift...

FordCarnage
12-25-2004, 03:28 PM
Who the fuck is flaming? :shaking: I gave him a legitimate answer, they would fit fine with that amount of lift. A question like this WILL get a faster response in that forum. Good luck in Iraq man. Come home safely.

Souperfly79
12-25-2004, 05:48 PM
Doesn't matter, I'm sure I'll get more responses when people get back to work and are bored with the Christmas stories.. Thanks to both so far, can't wait to come home!

optiwizard
01-02-2008, 06:48 AM
Superduty's come stock with crossover steering are you talking about Hi-steering.
Custom steering knuckle with steering arm.

cool_racer
01-02-2008, 12:32 PM
maby your thinking over 8" and you need longer drive shafts? i do know that, steering may need to be extended/ adjusted

03f350
01-02-2008, 10:31 PM
most 37s will fit on a 6" lift and most 39's will fit on a 10" lift for street use. if you wheel it i would go 35/6 and 37 or 38/10. I would run an 8 inch rim with a shallow back spacing no matter what tire.

as for the high steer, you do not NEED it but it is a good idea. the superlift 10" lift kit does not come with high steer, but donahoe racings 10.5" lift kit does. IMO donahoe is a much better company. If you plan to wheel this thing at all you should get high steer.

most SD lifts are put into 2 classes V8, and V10/PSD. im pretty sure the V10/PSD springs have a stiffer spring rate. but the V10 is not that much lighter than the PSD (if at all) to gain you 2 more inches of lift.

come home safe and enjoy your new lift.

Apimpdad
01-02-2008, 10:47 PM
Superduty's come stock with crossover steering are you talking about Hi-steering.
Custom steering knuckle with steering arm.
super dutys dont come stock with crossover steering and there is no hi-steer steering on the market. donahoe, ORU, and Dynatrac make a crossover knuckle for the super duty.

optiwizard
01-03-2008, 06:15 AM
super dutys dont come stock with crossover steering and there is no hi-steer steering on the market. donahoe, ORU, and Dynatrac make a crossover knuckle for the super duty.

Please step away from the crack pipe!!

Maybe you should explain crossover steering becuase I a fawkin retard!

This is as close to crossover as it gets before you mount the draglink to the knuckle. But why would you need this for a less than 8" lifted superduty?

I don't think he needs anything custom which a true crossover steering would be in this case. But for his answer to his question yes you will need a custom passenger side crossover steering knuckle with the steering arm mounted hi. You'll be fine with this setup with 10.5" . You don't want to go over 8" without the custom knuckle. With 8" you start to see the grease spitting out of the rod end at the pitman arm.

Apimpdad
01-03-2008, 07:20 AM
Please step away from the crack pipe!!

Maybe you should explain crossover steering becuase I a fawkin retard!

This is as close to crossover as it gets before you mount the draglink to the knuckle. But why would you need this for a less than 8" lifted superduty?

I don't think he needs anything custom which a true crossover steering would be in this case. But for his answer to his question yes you will need a custom passenger side crossover steering knuckle with the steering arm mounted hi. You'll be fine with this setup with 10.5" . You don't want to go over 8" without the custom knuckle. With 8" you start to see the grease spitting out of the rod end at the pitman arm.
crack pipe? the stock setup is NOT crossover steering. crossover is when the drag ling is mounted to the knuckle above both leaf springs, hi-steer is when both the drag link and the tie rod are both mounted above both of the leaf springs. i have always heard that anything that is 8" or more lift for a super duty should get crossover, or at least that it would be a good idea to get crossover.

optiwizard
01-03-2008, 07:57 AM
crossover is when both the tie rod and the draglink mount to the knuckle on the other side, it doesn't have to go over the springs. Always someone that knows everything. Read up son.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Steering/Steering_Research/steeringresearch.htm

Apimpdad
01-03-2008, 08:10 AM
crossover is when both the tie rod and the draglink mount to the knuckle on the other side, it doesn't have to go over the springs. Always someone that knows everything. Read up son.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Steering/Steering_Research/steeringresearch.htm
the way i explained it and what i just read in that link make sense to me.... i dont see where you dont understand. i have never heard of a super duty with leaf springs coming stock with crossover....

mytzlflick
01-03-2008, 08:19 AM
Thats funny my 1999 superduty has crossover steering on it stock? crossover means the draglink goes ACROSS the front of the truck, as opposed to non crossover which is what you see on older straight axle chevys where the draglink goes forewards/backwards.
as far as I know the high steer arms just mount your crossover steering higher and allow a bit more length.

Apimpdad
01-03-2008, 08:26 AM
Thats funny my 1999 superduty has crossover steering on it stock? crossover means the draglink goes ACROSS the front of the truck, as opposed to non crossover which is what you see on older straight axle chevys where the draglink goes forewards/backwards.
as far as I know the high steer arms just mount your crossover steering higher and allow a bit more length.
ok i didnt even think about that, but then why do companies make "crossover" steering for the superdutys?

optiwizard
01-03-2008, 10:54 AM
ok i didnt even think about that, but then why do companies make "crossover" steering for the superdutys?

Because the need to help eliminate bump steer on tall rigs.
Some make strong links with hiem's with more articulating angle for offroad purposes.

caryt
01-03-2008, 11:34 AM
FYI I am a Donahoe and a Rize dealer and if you want the best riding lift thats your only choice IMO. If I can help you with deciding what components you need to do it correctly please PM me . I also sell Bilsteins .

Cary

optiwizard
01-03-2008, 11:37 AM
FYI I am a Donahoe and a Rize dealer and if you want the best riding lift thats your only choice IMO. If I can help you with deciding what components you need to do it correctly please PM me . I also sell Bilsteins .

Cary

my front Spring rear bushings are shot. Donahoe 8" kit. Any replacement parts?

caryt
01-03-2008, 11:42 AM
Yes we can get those. PM me with all your info and I'll get you prices. Funny I have never seen them needing replacement.

Cary