: 4 link system


Rover/Scout
12-26-2004, 02:18 PM
Has anybody used D and C extreme's 4 link kit with a shackle frt/shackle rr. set up? I was wanting to use fullsize chevy truck leafs with shackles frt and rr. for control, flex, and street manors. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
My rig: 76' Scout II soa, 9" rear w/ 4.88's and spool, disc frt/rr. frt d44 w/detroit 4.88's, crossover steering, moser axles frt/rr twin stick d20, full cage, 304/t19 w/headers and dual exhaust. I am working on dropping in a 99' Vortec 350/NV4500 combo next.

Doyle
76' Scout II
90' Range Rover

Houston, Tx.

snoop dogg
12-26-2004, 03:13 PM
i knew of someone that ran the front and rear shackle setup....performed pretty good...on a YJ though.

if your going to think it, i think you should just run coils....opens up a lot more space, less chance of getting hung up than if you kept the leaves, not sure but i bet you could still break/bend a leaf....id say run coils.

look up joshc, he has this setup with coils....looks pretty good

Urban Wheeler
12-26-2004, 06:32 PM
Are you talking about a 4 link with 1/4 elliptic leaves, or 3/4, or what? Sounds like you want to add a 4 link to a leave sprung truck. (As in having both at the same time)

I'm not really understanding what you want to do.

snoop dogg
12-26-2004, 06:36 PM
shackles on both ends of the leaves...a free moving spring setup, but needs links. i don't really understand doing it, it works though...but i think it's pointless if your going to link it you might as well run coils, or coilovers...if cost is a thing, then just run some stock coils off of something...keeping the leaves in there is just another thing to get hung up on, or break.

Rover/Scout
12-26-2004, 09:22 PM
ok guys this is new teritory for me. if i were to just go ahead and run coils, to keep from driving me nuts what would you guys suggest to start with for coils? the truck wieghs 4550 with all gear and me in it. what might i steel them off of? i would not mind going to after market, BUT i don't want to brake the bank, i am on a budget. :confused:

reuben
12-26-2004, 09:43 PM
josh c and myself both run wild horses coils in the rear. they perform great.

dukguy
12-26-2004, 10:22 PM
That's called a floating leaf spring set up. The guys at 4Wheelers Supply, www.4wheelers.com , have a heep setup like that. It's supposed to be a little harder to setup than it looks. You might want to give them a call.Personally I would think that coils would have a better ride, alot more flex and just as much contol as leaf springs. But what the hell do I know. If that T19 you're gonna pull is a wide let me know, I'm looking for one and I'm local.

JoshC
12-26-2004, 10:27 PM
They work great... Even you you lose the lower spring mount.

http://beer.thisdysfunctional.org/kids/albun20/100_9891.sized.jpg

JoshC
12-26-2004, 10:30 PM
Here's a parking lott pic

http://beer.thisdysfunctional.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=750&stc=1

JoshC
12-26-2004, 10:38 PM
Search (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137514&highlight=Extreme)

JoshC
12-26-2004, 10:50 PM
I have a couple of pics in this thread on ZBinder Bulletin too.

http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1343&page=2&pp=30&highlight=JoshChttp://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/showthread.php?

slipscomb
12-28-2004, 06:36 AM
I used Ford Bronco/F-150 coils on mine. 2" lift coils in the rear and 4"ers on the front.
http://members.cox.net/jtolly/images/slipscomb/images/slipscomb019.jpg
http://members.cox.net/jtolly/images/slipscomb/images/slipscomb043.jpg

Snoopy
12-29-2004, 09:21 AM
My system isn't really made to use with leafs. I'm sure it'll work with the 'floating leaf' setup, but it'd probably be cheaper to put some coils or even a couple air-shocks on it instead!

Scout8hundred
12-29-2004, 10:35 PM
Has your system been tested on an 800?

I know the frame width is slightly different and what, if any problems, will this pose?

Snoopy
12-30-2004, 09:05 AM
Has your system been tested on an 800?

I know the frame width is slightly different and what, if any problems, will this pose?
Being an 800 Freak, I built the system FOR an 800 to begin with ~ one of the reasons the Scout II 'Link-to-frame" mounts are out side the frame! :D

It was adapted for the Scout II after-the-fact. Since we haven't had any full installations on an 800, I've yet todo the testing on an actual 80/800 ~ but we did put them on a Jeep XJ ~ which also have wider frames. They worked as perfectly as the Scout II system did/does. :grinpimp: :evil: :grinpimp:

Snoopy
12-30-2004, 09:13 AM
~ oh, and in my defense, I've wanted to build a Scout 800 kit. HECK ~ I've told Dan (BinderBound) and Carl (Desiel Smoke) ~ that they'd have my full attention if they'd ever want a Scout 800 buggy ~ but they "want to wheel RockScout a bit first" ~ Something about getting their bearings ~ finding their "center" ~ or something like that. Ya think they'd simply go to church or try yoga to do that! ;) :D :eek:

I'm telling you, the nerve of some people ~ Offer them a full-out competition buggy and they turn you down. WHATS UP WITH THAT!?!?! :confused::confused::confused:

So despite them, I'm going to build one anyway. I figure RockScout will be a pile of dents from being a full-body competition rig by the end of the year (yes, I've seen CalRocs courses up close). I'm thinking they'll be beggin for Rusty's "BIG-but-Little" brother by the end of the season ~ expecially when they see the build. :evil:

Snoopy
12-30-2004, 09:22 AM
Had to post this. Here is one of the original screen-shots of our 4-link kit in the CAD program ~ 800 guys may find the frame a little familiar.

Brandon
12-30-2004, 06:29 PM
any reason that would be bad on a DD 80?

Snoopy
12-30-2004, 08:47 PM
the only reason I could think of is that the hiems would wear out in a year or two. Bushings or johnny joints would be a better fit for a daily driver.

reuben
12-30-2004, 09:42 PM
http://beer.thisdysfunctional.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3229

here is mine. i started it before i saw JoshC's rig. i wish i would've known or i would have bought yours, it seemed much easier to do than build it all from scratch