: I made a new knife today
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 02:31 PM this is a for my neigbor. she wanted me to make a knife for her husband after she saw some of my work.So in essence this is a gift for both of them as i am not charging her for the work :D Its a 440 stainless blade as he is not a real "knife care" guy and wanted to give him something simple to own. its also chizel edged so its esy for him to keep sharp. aluminum bolsters and granite Coreon(sp) scales.
i will post up a couple more once i stop having upload problems
side view
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=164875&stc=1
another angle
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=164876&stc=1
ridges on back for a nice thumb purchace
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=164877&stc=1
rockota 12-31-2004, 02:33 PM you make that from scratch?
rusted 12-31-2004, 02:34 PM Hey that's a nice one. Good work, I like the handle quite a bit.
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 02:46 PM you make that from scratch?
yes. i copied the blade style(sorta) from a cheap folder that she liked the rough shape of. The only bitch was getting the stupid thumb hole to come out right :shaking: i would have rather threaded it for a stud.
Joe_W 12-31-2004, 02:46 PM I'm not a "real knife" guy, could certainly use one, and would love something easy to sharpen
I'm just saying ;)
FordCarnage 12-31-2004, 02:46 PM Damn that's impressive. What tools do you use to machine the blade?
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 02:50 PM Hey that's a nice one. Good work, I like the handle quite a bit.
i love working in the solid counter top material :D you can sand it to a satin finish or buff the fawk out of it like i did
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 02:55 PM Damn that's impressive. What tools do you use to machine the blade?
belt sander. anything else will make your life suck realy bad :laughing: you leave a "handle" on the blade blank or weld a rod to the end so you have something good to hold on to when grinding the angles.
The trick to grinding good blade angles is not to think and stay commited. once you start and angle DONT STOP. wait untill the grind is done and then work from there
and then buff
and buff
and buff
and fawking buff some more :laughing:
ScottFJ40 12-31-2004, 02:55 PM Gil,
we need to talk. :D
rockota 12-31-2004, 02:56 PM Okay - I have to ask...
How do you make the blade?
FordCarnage 12-31-2004, 02:59 PM I will say it looks better than the Gerber that's in my pocket.
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 03:15 PM Okay - I have to ask...
How do you make the blade?
buy steel of the variety you want from a metal supply or off ebay (great sorce for small pieces of exotic steels)
take a sharpie and draw the rough 2d shape of the blade on the steel and grind it like 1/16 oversize.
Make another one cause you will fuck up your first one :flipoff2:
using a stationary belt sander using no rougher than 120grit paper (use NEW for each side) unless you have a vise to hold your angles then you can start rough and work finer. grind your blade bevels DONT TRY TO SHARPEN IT that is the last step. remember you only want to bevel half the blade thickness so visualy make sure.
90% of what i do is by eye as i am much more acurate than by measure.
flip and do other side.
another option is to use a end mill and a milling machine. much easier
grid the rest of the blade shape and remove the "handle" that you had attached to do the grinding. drill and tap all needed holes
put a ROUGH sharpend edge on it
temper the steel (you look this up for the rockwell required for your use and the type of steel and what shit you have available to temper it)
polish like a motherfucker remebering NOT to over heat the metal and lose your temper. also polish away from an edge so you dont launch a blade into your leg when it catches the buffing wheel :shaking: ask me how i know
polish polish polish
even if you are putting a satin finish
polish
leave polished or bead blast for a satin finish or for moly coating
TAAADAAAAA
you have a blade :flipoff2:
thats really cool to be able to make something like that from nothing. true talent
:eek: :eek: That is amazing!
Very nice work, Doc!
FordCarnage 12-31-2004, 03:23 PM I foresee a blade in my leg later tonight. Thanks for the instructions.
BUZZISCRAZY2 12-31-2004, 03:24 PM Wow man, kick ass ! You should be selling those puppies.....serious
Spawn_X 12-31-2004, 03:29 PM you got any tips for sharpening knives? i got a fancy stone i bought, but not sure what angle to use and how to keep it "constant" and not change angle as move the blade..
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 03:31 PM grab an old big ass file and grnd both sides flat and go at it (they make nice blades) solid countertop scraps can be got from ANY countertop install place for free or near free.
Buzz i dont deal with customers when it comes to my artwork very well :laughing: like this one is a x-mass present and i told her when i started "i havent done a folder in like 6 years, it will piss me off and will probly be done after the 25th" :D she laughed and said that would be fine
FourBanger 12-31-2004, 03:34 PM I foresee a blade in my leg later tonight.
:laughing: :laughing:
BUZZISCRAZY2 12-31-2004, 03:50 PM grab an old big ass file and grnd both sides flat and go at it (they make nice blades) solid countertop scraps can be got from ANY countertop install place for free or near free.
Buzz i dont deal with customers when it comes to my artwork very well :laughing: like this one is a x-mass present and i told her when i started "i havent done a folder in like 6 years, it will piss me off and will probly be done after the 25th" :D she laughed and said that would be fine
Not even 1 ?...........Have an uncle who collects knives and would love 1...... :(
Kellydayz 12-31-2004, 03:55 PM Great work, didn't you also make a trick burrito cooker?
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 04:14 PM Great work, didn't you also make a trick burrito cooker?
well one of them :D mine was da blingin stainless and aluminum one
Spawn_X: if you suck at sharpening knives (like i do) then i recomend a nice smith or gatco sharpening system. :laughing:
but here are some "go by angles"
11* razor blade. sharp as fawk basicly what is called "a wire"
15* wood carving blades or trout knives
19* fillet or boning knives
22* kitchen knives and high end shit. caping knives,pocket knives that dont see abuse
25* basic kinves
29* utility and beaten on knives
Shades76cj5 12-31-2004, 04:21 PM Awesome work! A guy I work with is making a barbarian sword out of a piece of 3/8" by 3" spring steel. It has a 3.5 ft blade on it. Its pretty wild lookin................ I need a garage so I can play. :(
rockota 12-31-2004, 04:31 PM buy steel
<do stuff>
you have a blade :flipoff2:
About what I thought... Thanks! :D
Nice work Gil! Files also make nice chisels and plane irons ;)
Lloyd 12-31-2004, 05:30 PM Very nice work. You're making me feel the need to create again...
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 06:08 PM ok after the numerous PM's
I will not be making custom knives at this time ! :laughing: :laughing:
i will give you hints and or supply locations to get just about any shit you want but i HAVE to finish APRILRAZZ's jeep if i enjoy oral sex :D
come spring i may start making shit :flipoff2:
basketcasejeep 12-31-2004, 06:10 PM How many hours do you think you have in that knife? looks great by the way...
rockota 12-31-2004, 06:11 PM ok after the numerous PM's
I will not be making custom knives at this time ! :laughing: :laughing:
i will give you hints and or supply locations to get just about any shit you want but i HAVE to finish APRILRAZZ's jeep if i enjoy oral sex :D
come spring i may start making shit :flipoff2:
Not sure what you are saying... Does that mean "NO custom knives"? Or just not until next week?
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 06:13 PM How many hours do you think you have in that knife? looks great by the way...
total maybe 14. it would go a LOT quicker if i had a small mill or a drill press that could handle a cutter. It actualy takes less time to do stuff in all steel as aposed to aluminum. i have to stop and let the work cool because of the heat transfer of aluminum.
in other words i burn my fawking hands when machining it :flipoff2: so i stop and have a Mt Dew and a smoke...
this takes up a good portion of my time :D
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 06:15 PM Not sure what you are saying... Does that mean "NO custom knives"? Or just not until next week?
:flipoff2: springtime fawker :flipoff2:
:flipoff2: springtime fawker :flipoff2:
Yea fawker! It's gotta be at least 90* and 95% humidity in Fredneck before he starts again!
JeepinDoug 12-31-2004, 07:32 PM Nice work Doc. Have you ever forged a Damascus blade? It's something I'd like to try someday.
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 07:43 PM Nice work Doc. Have you ever forged a Damascus blade? It's something I'd like to try someday.
yup
first one i did was by hand,3lb sledge, piece of I beam as an anvil, charcoal fordge blown by a HVAC blower using Borax as flux :laughing:
that was a few hours of suck :D
GonZu 12-31-2004, 08:09 PM Do you take Paypal ???
Spawn_X 12-31-2004, 09:45 PM ok, is there anything out there that will basically let me "adjust" the angle and use as the "angle guide" to sharpen the knives??
thanks
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 09:48 PM yes, there is (or used to be) a clamp that attached to the backbone of the blade that would control the angle as you used a whet stone. you would just let the clamp "skim" across the stone as you sharpend
i will look for it
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 09:57 PM ebay link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43220&item=6502221806&rd=1)
found some
bigNATEŽ 12-31-2004, 10:37 PM how long is it?
theres a c-note for you if you want to make me one with a black handle ( at your leisure)
usmcdoc14 12-31-2004, 10:40 PM how long is it?
theres a c-note for you if you want to make me one with a black handle ( at your leisure)
about a 4inch blade
see above big fawking letters :flipoff2: :laughing: i will add you to the "list" :D
bigNATEŽ 12-31-2004, 10:47 PM I saw the big letters above, I figured you had a waiting list already and I assumed correct, lol
rockota 01-01-2005, 01:13 AM :flipoff2: springtime fawker :flipoff2:
I've been drinking for 12 hours, so excuse me if I'm not 100% up to speed... So you're saying you will start taking custom orders by the 2nd week of Janurary??? Cool - put me down for one!!!
:D :D :D :D
Spawn_X 01-01-2005, 03:06 AM thanks for the link, bid on one now.. :D
peej410 01-01-2005, 12:24 PM wow thats awesome, kudos on the great work it looks like it came from the CRKT factory or something. i once used the tig to heat the crap out of a piece of steel and pound it into a knife shape. then i got a book on forgeing and wanted to stab myself for being stupid enough to use mild steel :)
i have an old manual surface grinder thats in very good condition, i might try and make some stuff like this some day, do you think a surface grinder would come in handy?
usmcdoc14 01-01-2005, 12:31 PM yes if set up right making the bevels would be simple.
and suck less :D
I just want to pick up a well used bridgeport and set it up with some simple digital readouts and go at it. I used to "trade" time at a shop,i would work on jobs one day and the next day was mine to do whatever. So i would set up the miller and cut knife blanks all day.
I was making a killing just doing custom blades :D
peej410 01-01-2005, 01:26 PM i have a bridgeport too :) got an atlas lathe bridgeport and surface grinder plus about 300 lbs of tooling and unused stock for 800 bucks hehe
Pazuzu 01-02-2005, 10:29 AM ebay link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43220&item=6502221806&rd=1)
found some
Those look like cheap shit. Check out http://www.razoredgesystems.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=73 if you want a guide that uses your current stones, or http://www.lansky.com/products/systems/standard.html if you want a guide that has stones in the kit.
Hey Gil, nice knife ;) If you're giving those away for $100 I'll take one with black micarta handles and D2 steel :D
robinhood150 01-02-2005, 02:00 PM I've got a two tiered system for sharpening my knives. First, I'll use a lansky or gatco type shapener to set the angle. Then for the final hone I'll use a spyderco sharpmaker to really get a razor edge. The first step is to set the angle more acute than the spyderco sharpener, otherwise you'll be dragging the edge across the ceramic stones for hours. The spyderco sharpener is where its at though. The lansky will only get the edge decently sharp where the spyderco will get it breathtakingly sharp.
My friend sent me two knives to sharpen and when he got them back he was so impressed by how sharp I got them he immediately wanted to know where to order the sharpeners. These sharpeners are easy to use too, anybody can do it. The spyderco one will sharpen serrated blades too.
Simon 01-02-2005, 03:35 PM I've been wanting a good folding blade for quite a while, and I have a brother who is a cop and I'd like to buy him one for his birthday (next December!) So if you are seriously keeping a waiting list for blades, I would like to be on it x2. It would be great to buy an American made, handmade knife.
As for sharpening, having earned my way through a few years of college shearing Christmas trees each summer I can tell you that the most important things about sharpening are time, patience and a good two grit stone, minimum. With the time and the patience, you will develop the skill to get a good edge.
Simon
usmcdoc14 01-02-2005, 06:43 PM fawk you Paz you can get in the long HYPOTHETICAL line if i decide to sell them :flipoff2:
D2 when tempered and then cryoed works reeeeeal nice :D
but i am not taking orders at this time :laughing:
NEWMANS OWN 01-02-2005, 08:21 PM Well if and when you do take order please keep me in mind I need a set made (6) in total made as a gift for and Everst Expedition. Fixed handle Either titanium and a darker steel... please keep me in mind great work
newmanj81@aol.com
f0cker 01-02-2005, 09:48 PM Doc, since you're taking orders, I'll take one too. And I'd like it by the 2nd week in January. Aluminum handle, with an unobtanium blade that has been heat treated, cryoed, hot and cold forged, re-cast, and ZIG welded. I'll give you $20 for it, and it has to be here by next Monday. Thanks dude, it's for my trip to the moon.
:flipoff2:
ScottFJ40 01-03-2005, 09:43 AM Hey where my fucking knife????? :mad3: I virutally ordered it 14 minutes ago and it's not ready yet :mad3: We need a bad vendors section on this board. :mad3: I am going to post this on every forum godammit :mad3:
:flipoff2:
usmcdoc14 01-03-2005, 09:48 AM Scott your gonna get cut ya keep it up :laughing:
rusted 01-03-2005, 09:50 AM Out of all the 'stuff' available for purchase (or not!) on the PBB, I have to say if you decide to commercialize, Gil, you gauranteed have a customer right here. I don't want to pressure you, I'm just saying, if you do decide to do a small PBB run, I want in.
Joe_W 01-03-2005, 10:16 AM Though I didn't send a pm I wonder if Gil was able to understand my "hints" on post 2 of this thread :D
edit: oops..post 5
Deranged 01-03-2005, 10:45 AM Ok I think I'm down with how to make the blade. So how do you make the handle and locking stuff and all that jazz?
rusted 01-03-2005, 10:52 AM Ok I think I'm down with how to make the blade. So how do you make the handle and locking stuff and all that jazz?
Out of the millions of megabytes of information on how to make knives available on the internet, why are you trying to learn in this thread? :confused: I mean, if you think you are 'down with how to make the blade', you most definitely are not down with how to make the blade!
SilverZuk 01-03-2005, 11:12 AM Nice knife.
There are some old timers in my area that have forges and like to make knives.
They generally use heavy truck leaf springs.
The problem is that some of those springs are already cracked internally.
They hammer and forge it, then use it a few times and it breaks.
It is still cool to see their handy work.
Deranged 01-03-2005, 11:24 AM Out of the millions of megabytes of information on how to make knives available on the internet, why are you trying to learn in this thread? :confused: I mean, if you think you are 'down with how to make the blade', you most definitely are not down with how to make the blade!
Cause Doc seems to really know his stuff when he talks of his tats and art and machining. Unlike you who tends to just spew bullshit at every opportunity. Don't even begin to think you know me from one question on the web. Besides, I have a BP mill! :flipoff2:
usmcdoc14 01-03-2005, 11:57 AM Ok I think I'm down with how to make the blade. So how do you make the handle and locking stuff and all that jazz?
buy some cheap crosslock knives online
disasemble
copy
adapt and improvise
:flipoff2:
seriously.
I learned by taking apart knives i liked the funcction of and coppied them or adaped them to my use
rezuked 01-03-2005, 12:49 PM grab an old big ass file and grnd both sides flat and go at it (they make nice blades) solid countertop scraps can be got from ANY countertop install place for free or near free.
Buzz i dont deal with customers when it comes to my artwork very well :laughing: like this one is a x-mass present and i told her when i started "i havent done a folder in like 6 years, it will piss me off and will probly be done after the 25th" :D she laughed and said that would be fine
I finally got around to reading this thread... very nice work!
We used to sneak and make knives on the belt sanders at the place I used to work. Files make excellent blades, but I have been very happy with the two I made from a power hacksaw blade. Talk about holding an edge, it has to be some of the best steel I've ever seen.
rusted 01-03-2005, 12:54 PM Cause Doc seems to really know his stuff when he talks of his tats and art and machining. Unlike you who tends to just spew bullshit at every opportunity. Don't even begin to think you know me from one question on the web. Besides, I have a BP mill! :flipoff2:
Well at least one member of PBB understands me, I *do* spew bullshit at every opportunity, and i have no ieda what a bp mill is.
Deranged 01-03-2005, 12:55 PM buy some cheap crosslock knives online
disasemble
copy
adapt and improvise
:flipoff2:
seriously.
I learned by taking apart knives i liked the funcction of and coppied them or adaped them to my use
Nice...thanks for your honest answer...sounds like just the type of piddling around work I need on my days off. And great work!
what about these? can I place an order yet?
usmcdoc14 02-11-2005, 06:04 AM what about these? can I place an order yet?
what is with you fuckers and dragging up my old threads :flipoff2: :laughing:
YES i am a procrastinator OK!!!!
and no i am NOt making knives :p
dammit
ScottFJ40 02-11-2005, 08:03 PM what about these? can I place an order yet?Got mine already sucka!
Thanks Gil. :laughing:
usmcdoc14 02-11-2005, 08:22 PM Got mine already sucka!
Thanks Gil. :laughing:
lieing whore :flipoff2:
RichieOTR 02-11-2005, 10:36 PM $100 would be a bargin for a custom folder. That's some nice work, especially for someone who does it as hobby. I've seen lots of custom knives made by "professionals" that aren't that nice. I made one knife with a knifemaker when I was 13...I just don't have the patience for it.
how long is it?
theres a c-note for you if you want to make me one with a black handle ( at your leisure)
ScottFJ40 02-11-2005, 11:00 PM lieing whore :flipoff2:
Oh, I gotcha now.... ;)
mojo74 12-30-2005, 08:58 AM what is with you fuckers and dragging up my old threads :flipoff2: :laughing:
YES i am a procrastinator OK!!!!
and no i am NOt making knives :p
dammit
ready yet? Its been a year:rolleyes: .
Pazuzu 12-30-2005, 09:02 AM ready yet? Its been a year:rolleyes: .
I bet not, he hasn't even called and asked for my hand dimentions so he can make it absolutely custom fit for me. Bastid.
basketcasejeep 12-30-2005, 09:24 AM ready yet? Its been a year:rolleyes: .
He's probably too busy building AK's :grinpimp: , or taking all those decorations off the amigo. :laughing:
ScottFJ40 12-30-2005, 09:53 AM Gil,
I just wanted to thank you for the knife you made me, it came in the mail today :smokin:
hahahaha fucker, this should get you some grief. :blackflipoff:
HighToy 12-30-2005, 10:16 AM Gil,
I just wanted to thank you for the knife you made me, it came in the mail today :smokin:
hahahaha fucker, this should get you some grief. :blackflipoff:
Awesome. I hope it's as nice as mine. Really smooth action. I had Gil make the blade half razor and half serrated.
slackin ass :blackflipoff:
Pazuzu 12-30-2005, 12:22 PM I'm not worried if mine isn't ready yet. He's making the handle from the thigh bone of Damage Inc, and AFAIK, that dillweed isn't completely dead yet (he is brain dead though...).
Spawn_X 12-30-2005, 01:04 PM I'm not worried if mine isn't ready yet. He's making the handle from the thigh bone of Damage Inc, and AFAIK, that dillweed isn't completely dead yet (he is brain dead though...).
awesome. maybe after you get yours, trip, and land on it, i could have gil make me a shank out of your rib bone
critterkiller 12-30-2005, 01:04 PM Nice blade. Have you ever heard of Robert Terzoula? Custom folder maker, I'm actually going to hang out with him tonight. I've forged a few fixed blades before, and made an awful lot of Damascus, but I think a folder from scratch is the ultimate challenge in knifemaking.
Pazuzu 12-30-2005, 01:05 PM awesome. maybe after you get yours, trip, and land on it, i could have gil make me a shank out of your rib bone
Haven't you learned anything? NEVER EVER make ANYTHING out of a man's ribbone.
It'll only haunt you for the rest of eternity.
Spawn_X 12-30-2005, 01:08 PM Haven't you learned anything? NEVER EVER make ANYTHING out of a man's ribbone.
It'll only haunt you for the rest of eternity.
well that's a downer.. thanks for the headsup
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 01:14 PM ...
Pazuzu 12-30-2005, 01:17 PM Oh, look who wandered by...the "custom knife manufacturer" who has proceeded to take orders and deposits from several people here, then dissappear, not producing the good.
I'm gonna have Butler toss your sorry ass in when he starts his smear campaign.
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 01:21 PM Oh, look who wandered by...the "custom knife manufacturer" who has proceeded to take orders and deposits from several people here, then dissappear, not producing the good.
I'm gonna have Butler toss your sorry ass in when he starts his smear campaign.
where is my deposit ? :laughing:
Pazuzu 12-30-2005, 01:23 PM where is my deposit ? :laughing:
Uh huh, the standard rebuttal from thieving knife producers. How terribly tactful you are.
Serious One 12-30-2005, 02:36 PM Wow, that is cool. All I can say that I did was *photograph* a knife today.
Send me your knives and I'll shoot 'em. :D
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 02:42 PM Wow, that is cool. All I can say that I did was *photograph* a knife today.
Send me your knives and I'll shoot 'em. :D
nice. I like the non-everyfuckinbodyelse position
lighten it up a stop. that little knife has "bright" steel :flipoff2: :p
Serious One 12-30-2005, 02:52 PM nice. I like the non-everyfuckinbodyelse position
lighten it up a stop. that little knife has "bright" steel :flipoff2: :p
Yeah, I've looked at knife sites till I'm sick in the pants. I've digested enough, now I'm doing it my way...here's another. :D
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 03:02 PM Yeah, I've looked at knife sites till I'm sick in the pants. I've digested enough, now I'm doing it my way...here's another. :D
likey:D
you should do that shot with them slightly open and blades splayed a little
Serious One 12-30-2005, 03:05 PM likey:D
you should do that shot with them slightly open and blades splayed a little
Everyone's a critic. :rolleyes:
:D
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 03:16 PM Everyone's a critic. :rolleyes:
:D
would you expect anything less :flipoff2: besides i count on you for the same :D
ScottFJ40 12-30-2005, 03:38 PM I just want to know how this thread morphed from a knife discusion, to a metrophoto discussion group? :shaking:
:flipoff2:
mojo74 12-30-2005, 04:30 PM I just want to know how this thread morphed from a knife discusion, to a metrophoto discussion group? :shaking:
:flipoff2:
When doc sends me my knife, we should get together and have the
serious one take pictures of them.:D
Serious One 12-30-2005, 05:03 PM I just want to know how this thread morphed from a knife discusion, to a metrophoto discussion group? :shaking:
I think I'm an attention whore. :D
No, I figured it was a good place to show some of the knife photos I'd taken, w/out starting a whole new thread. :flipoff2:
Doc's knife takes center stage in this thread fo' sho'. :smokin:
mudslinger99 12-30-2005, 07:40 PM ...http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=221737&stc=1&d=1135973632
You might want to delete this pic or it will get this whole thread deleted if :roxy: spots it :flipoff2:
If you cant show the other pics this week that got deleted I know this one will cause a ruckus :laughing:
Oh yeah nice knife :smokin:
usmcdoc14 12-30-2005, 08:13 PM You might want to delete this pic or it will get this whole thread deleted if :roxy: spots it :flipoff2:
If you cant show the other pics this week that got deleted I know this one will cause a ruckus :laughing:
Oh yeah nice knife :smokin:
they are fake dicks :flipoff2: fake dicks are fair game :laughing:
Serious One 12-30-2005, 08:15 PM they are fake dicks :flipoff2: fake dicks are fair game :laughing:
Trust him...he's had medical training. :laughing:
they are fake dicks :flipoff2: fake dicks are fair game :laughing:
..I hope that is NOT your position on all things that have to do with "dicks"...:flipoff2:
..By the way..nice fawking knife!
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