Howdy, Our project scout is almost ready but oh the light at the end of the tunnel seems so far. I think we lost the clutch today just sits there when she's in gear. So wanted to know if anyone knew where the heck I could find a clutch?

Aaron

What motor? And don't say "slant four" because that really burns my ass. (but it's ok to say 4 cylinder, or better yet, 152/196)

Check the rear axle first. ;) Does it move if it's in four wheel drive?

I'm such a dumb ass, Ok I found the complete clutch kit for $399 on Scoutparts.com and btw. My Scout has a V-8 not even sure which one, according to the gentlemen at scoutparts he stated that I have a T-90 trans. but not certain if I have a 10" or an 11" clutch. I figured I could just remove the panel on the bottom and measure it, but he said the something was either 7/8" or 1 1/8" and that made a difference. "DOES IT MOVE IF ITS IN 4 WHEEL DRIVE" well no the front drive shaft is sitting in the front seat. Also I need to get some gears I was told the stock gears ratio is 350 and the guys at Randys Ring and Pinion said they could only go as low as 376's which didnt seem like much to me. The problem is we went front stock somewhere around 28" tires to 35's and didnt switch out the gears yes yes I'm a dumbass didn't even ocour that she is slow because the gears aren't right. It is a Dana 44 anyone know whats available? Also anyone have any idea what type of T case I have its a Dana but which one? Yes it is a twin stick.

Thanks Guys

Aaron

I'm going to flame you here.... but you might desirve it....

Your doing a build up on a truck, your putting 35's on it and you have NO IDEA WHAT COMPONANTS ARE ON IT TO BEGAIN WITH!!


why did you even start with a Scout... have you owned scouts? Have you searched for the likely stock componants that make up a simular year scout?

What is your past 4x4 experiance?? What are you trying to do with this Scout? Were are you getting some of your information? 3.50 was not a gear ratio avaliable for D44's (or D27's for that matter, which your front axle is unless its been swaped out).

NAPA, Carquest, heck Shucks/Kragen should be able to get you clutches too.... did you try them?

Ok sweetheart as I stated in my post "Randy's Ring and Pinion" Said they were 350 Im going to go and take the diff apart and verify that. Yes I looked elswhere for the clutches and they range from $500-$900. I figured through "anything scout" it was a safer bet the shit would fit. And if you were to read my post further there is a little more to it that that, there are 2 types of clutch diameters as well as some other shit. Also was told by "scoutparts.com" that it was a rare mix the V-8 with the T-90 tranny. I have to remove the freakin tranny to figure out. What to do with the scout? Its in the project mode to be a badass daily driver. Have I owned one before obviously no I have not otherwise I wouldnt be asking these questions.


Aaron

Ben, this is the type of thread that should be in the Newbie section.


Dan, you have to either learn to Search (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?) or go to the BB. :rolleyes:

Sorry guys cant be as cool as you but as certain that I am you were here once too, now I'm just reminded of some snobby ass jeep owner. As far as that goes are no way any of your post deemed classified and I will be sure to post where ever I think someone might be able to help so to all you that suck, well you just suck. But to all of you who have helped thank you .

Aaron

I have to remove the freakin tranny to figure out.
dont you have to drop the tranny to replace the clutch anyways? Its obviously not goin anywhere fast...

you need to hookup with scouts west, they have no clue whats going on either.

Sorry guys cant be as cool as you but as certain that I am you were here once too, now I'm just reminded of some snobby ass jeep owner. As far as that goes are no way any of your post deemed classified and I will be sure to post where ever I think someone might be able to help so to all you that suck, well you just suck. But to all of you who have helped thank you .

Aaron

All I can say is you got ahold of some really bad info. Scoutparts isn't the best source, try your local Napa if you have one or take the clutch in and get it rebuilt. As for the V-8 to T-90 combo, the truck is almost 40 years old, who knows what has been swapped out or changed?? Scoutparts was most likely talking stock from the factory, but that doesn't mean anything. As for the Transfer case, it is a spicer 18 or a Dana 20, either way they were used in just about everything, so they aren't too hard to find parts for. As for your axles, whoever you got ahold of at Randy's is an ass hat. Scouts use Dana axles, probalby a 27 or 30 front and a 44 read for some sort. The lowest gears you can get for the 44 are 5.89 and I have seen 27 as low as 5.38. The ratios that the guy at Randy's told you are flat out wrong, maybe if you had a Chrylser they woulbe be right. He probaly ment that you have a 3.54 and the lowest you could go on that carrier is 3.73. Good luck with you project! It appears you have a lot to learn. The info is around just SEARCH FOR IT!!!

I'm going to flame you here.... but you might desirve it....

Your doing a build up on a truck, your putting 35's on it and you have NO IDEA WHAT COMPONANTS ARE ON IT TO BEGAIN WITH!!


why did you even start with a Scout... have you owned scouts? Have you searched for the likely stock componants that make up a simular year scout?

What is your past 4x4 experiance?? What are you trying to do with this Scout? Were are you getting some of your information? 3.50 was not a gear ratio avaliable for D44's (or D27's for that matter, which your front axle is unless its been swaped out).

NAPA, Carquest, heck Shucks/Kragen should be able to get you clutches too.... did you try them?


Credit card wheeler?


What happened to the days of wheeling a stock truck, then upgrading as your skills grew and the truck broke? I think there are probably quite a few people here that have little experience wheeling but want a "bad ass" truck for their first ride.

Sounds like our buddy here wants a mall wheeler. Mall wheelin is really tough.

Ban this guy. :rolleyes:

You guys trying to reason with someone on the BB level doesn't help things at all. This isn't the BB and many of us would like to keep it that way.

Ok I'll play nice for a little bit.

"DOES IT MOVE IF ITS IN 4 WHEEL DRIVE" well no the front drive shaft is sitting in the front seat.

Aaron
Before you go pulling everything apart, put the front driveshaft in and see if you can drive it in 4. It only takes a few minutes, costs nothing, and may save you hundreds and a headache. Point is, you probably have a tapered axle and one of the keys may be broke. I had that happen to me before. Fixed it twice before fixing it for good by replacing the damm thing with a SII d44

BTW, make sure to lock in the hubs. It isn't one of those fancy new pushbutton 4x4s. :flipoff2:

better than taking the time to put the front driveshaft in, put it in 4 wheel and just see if the yoke spins. This will work because the scout doesnt even move forward in gear so you can still be underneath it without it rolling.

better than taking the time to put the front driveshaft in, put it in 4 wheel and just see if the yoke spins. This will work because the scout doesnt even move forward in gear so you can still be underneath it without it rolling.

Sounds like a Darwin award winner of an idea.

Sounds like a Darwin award winner of an idea.
I would put the rear on jack-stands or pull the rear shaft first..


heck, if the tunnels off, you wouldn't even need to crawl undernieth.

The yokes would probably still turn when you let the clutch out, unless the clutch is completely gone, as in not physically there. As long as there is physical contact between the friction disc and pressure plate or whatever, there will be some friction. Maybe not enough to move the truck, but probably enough to spin the trans a bit. I stand by putting the front driveshaft back in.

The yokes would probably still turn when you let the clutch out, unless the clutch is completely gone, as in not physically there. As long as there is physical contact between the friction disc and pressure plate or whatever, there will be some friction. Maybe not enough to move the truck, but probably enough to spin the trans a bit. I stand by putting the front driveshaft back in.
Why? If the rear driveshaft turns, but the truck doesn't move, then you already know where the problem must be right away! You needn't waste any time installing the front shaft! Come on, use your head! :flipoff2:

P.S. Besides, it sounds like this guy probably just can't figure out how to get his factory twin stick D20 out of neutral.... :)

I don't think it matters anymore. I think he got scared off.

Why? If the rear driveshaft turns, but the truck doesn't move, then you already know where the problem must be right away! You needn't waste any time installing the front shaft! Come on, use your head! :flipoff2:

P.S. Besides, it sounds like this guy probably just can't figure out how to get his factory twin stick D20 out of neutral.... :)
If you take Rustoleum's advice and pull the rear shaft or put the rear on stands, it won't really prove anything like I said, but if one was to lay next to the truck in such a way as to be able to see the driveshaft, or just look through the wheel well at the yoke, then yes, you are right.


How does this thread keep going without the original poster? I think my work is done here.

I'm such a dumb ass, Ok I found the complete clutch kit for $399 on Scoutparts.com and btw. My Scout has a V-8 not even sure which one, according to the gentlemen at scoutparts he stated that I have a T-90 trans. but not certain if I have a 10" or an 11" clutch.
Aaron

Wow, Ya know how to tell if ya have a T-90 3 speed piece o crap....It would have 3 gears and a T-98 4-speed would have 4 gears, and a T-18 with T-98 top plate (196 version 4-speed) would have 4. T-90 would be 10 inch, and 4-speed would most certainley be an 11. If its stock V-8 then again most likley a T-98.

Now I also think i need to raise my prices from $250 to $399 if he is getting that kind of money for a clutch kit...WOW :eek:

Yes I looked elswhere for the clutches and they range from $500-$900.
Where the hell are you finding them for $500-$900 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: