Just wondering what youre guys opinions were on my new setup.

I had some f-150 coils laying around and wanted to put them under the rear of my scout. Because of how poor i am i didnt want to by tubing to make links (4-link 3-link). So i cut my leaf springs in half and set them down on the spring perches on the axle. I then made lower spring buckets that would mount on top of the cut leaf spring. I drilled holes in the lower spring bucket so that the u-bolts would come through and i could bolt the spring bucket down on top of the leaf springs. I have no pics yet do to the lack of a camera. But i made a drawing of it on paint program, but have no clue as how to post it.

If I understand this correctly I think you will need a pan hard bar with that setup. Better yet save your pennies and buy some pipe to make 4 links.

so the only thing locating the axle is a half a leaf spring?

If I understand this correctly I think you will need a pan hard bar with that setup..
Or a Watts :flipoff2:

DANGER DANGER.... Booty fab :flipoff2:

WAS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE LEAF SPRINGS THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO LEAVE THEM UNDER YOUR RIG. :confused:

Yeah i forgot to add a panhard bar in there somewere. I just want to see if it works. If it doesnt i will just bolt the good leaf springs back on.

The half-leaf springs will work like links with hiem joints. It wont be as good, but it will still flex.

The half-leaf springs will work like links with hiem joints. It wont be as good, but it will still flex.
I suspect they will wrap like a son of a bitch.

All the rotational force of the axle will be force on that 1/2 spring, and they wrap as it is with full springs. Plus as other said, you need somthing to hold thing lateraly (pan-hard or watts).

Booty fab, unless you ad some links on the bottom of the axle to control that wrap... even then it will be 1/2 assed.

just put it togather and see if it will work. nobody has built their rigs right the first time,who knows it might really work well.

Yeah i realize i need the panhard bar. That is what i what i was worried about, axle-wrap like u said. I was going to try duel shocks in the rear. I just want to see if i could go with coils cheaply so i could bob the rear end. I also whant to see if it flexes better than the SOA setup that i have now

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What if one were to do a 4 link, and for springs use 2 leaf springs per side. 4 total. The eyes would be connected by shackles to form a full ellipse, the the spring assembly would mount to the frame in the middle of one spring, and the axle in the middle of the other spring, like normal. I think it would flex well if you didn't have too much spring rate. (not to mention look goofy as hell)

I see a problem with spring rate. that ford spring has a 450 or so rate(very rough guess). I know the scout is heavy, but that is about 150+ too much spring rate.


Remember, it is rated to hold up the front of a truck with a 600+ pound motor.

use wild horses coils, they are progressive and great quality. i have them under the front and rear in my scout.why nut just cut the eye off of your leaf spring and weld it to a piece of 1x2 and have a rigid link.

That sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the help and opinions.

is this kinda what you were thinking this is what i have on my scout but its set up more for desert prerun racing http://img23.exs.cx/img23/5836/mvc051f4pj.jpg http://img125.exs.cx/img125/1725/mvc050f7ob.jpg

and yes i know i need to wash it

holyshit it has already been done. But yes, that is what im talking about. Does the setup work ok.

Well it is almost the same. The springs on mine will go over the axle since i already have a SOA setup, and the coils will sit directly over the axle(on top of the half-springs). The lower spring bucket will be held down by the ubolts that also hold the spring to the axle.

Jim the old owner of anything scout had a buggy with D44's welded front and rear with 38's that had the half spring links and f-150 coils. it wasnt to pretty but it worked. He did tank trap with it several times so i hear...

holyshit it has already been done. But yes, that is what im talking about. Does the setup work ok.
i love it, it articulates insanely and it takes ahd jump you can throw at it
but like i said this is set up for desert racing and i have those huge trailing arms which look like you would just drag them on some rocks

http://img74.exs.cx/img74/7517/mvc054f9fj.jpg

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/5184/mvc056f2uu.jpg

note the tie down is a temp battery hold down :flipoff2:

this is what it looks like btw http://img153.exs.cx/img153/3861/picture1358jb.jpg

this is what it looks like btw http://img153.exs.cx/img153/3861/picture1358jb.jpg
:smokin:

:trooper:

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Yessss that is coool :smokin:

going to tpaint it like the general lee this summer so well see how that turns out

were do u race your scout. That thing looks sweet.

Jim the old owner of anything scout had a buggy with D44's welded front and rear with 38's that had the half spring links and f-150 coils. it wasnt to pretty but it worked. He did tank trap with it several times so i hear...


I call BS.. jim has always had leafs on "Ruby".

going to tpaint it like the general lee this summer so well see how that turns out
it used to run the baja 500 but now adays i just race kids out in the dunes and such it has 20 inches of travel in back an about 22 in front you can see what the back is set up with and the rear has 62 in deaver springs and it has a built 345 a bunch more shit

Cruiser that is a way cool looking rig, how about some more detail pictures of the suspension and steering

Cruiser that is a way cool looking rig, how about some more detail pictures of the suspension and steering sure ill go take some in a few minutes i got it running a few months ago after it had been sitting for a year or so and some of the stearing and such are way out dated

ah i didnt have time today and hows its to dark ill try tommorow

He is actually right about jims Scout (not ruby). He hacked a stock Scout II apart welded like 5 rollbars together to make a full cage and used a leaf packs cut in half as links. At the axle he welded each of the leaves together to keep them from moving side to side. No panhard. It was amazing but it did work. I followed him up tank trap a few years ago in it. 345, auto, dana 300, 3.54's welded F&R. I don't know if he still has it or not.

I call BS.. jim has always had leafs on "Ruby".

"Ruby" was jims blue 800 which i would find hard to mistake for a buggy and it does have leaf springs. im talking about the orange buggy jim built about 4 or 5 years ago. :flipoff2: it had half spring links and f 150 coils but his was sprung under which might have helped with the axle-rap problems every ones talking about

kevo

i know about Ruby, it has the chevy moter in it. i know about the race scout he had. but i dont ever remember him having something with coils. i have been to all of the Western Regionals in Hollister for the last 5-6 years, so i am assuming that this scout was not at one of these events.

im guessing jims rig worked well with that setup?

It defied anything I know of fabricating things up properly, but I wheeled with him 2-3 times with it and it didn't break. As SJ scouter said, it was spring under and maybe that was important to the genius of the booty fab

He is actually right about jims Scout (not ruby). He hacked a stock Scout II apart welded like 5 rollbars together to make a full cage and used a leaf packs cut in half as links. At the axle he welded each of the leaves together to keep them from moving side to side. No panhard. It was amazing but it did work. I followed him up tank trap a few years ago in it. 345, auto, dana 300, 3.54's welded F&R. I don't know if he still has it or not.
Um, I remember Jim not even making it up the first waterfall :laughing: and somebody elses rig having to flop around and not make it also :flipoff2: .

It defied anything I know of fabricating things up properly, but I wheeled with him 2-3 times with it and it didn't break. As SJ scouter said, it was spring under and maybe that was important to the genius of the booty fab
:shaking: I do remember something was broke in the front axle. That thing was such a piece of shit, I didn't even want to acknowledge it was a scout.

ok i just got home from delivering my cruiser fun 17 hour trip............. :mad3: so what exactly did you wana see on it?

I was referring to the leaf spring two link not breaking. by me saying that I am in no means advocating that set up. I just remember it worked for what it was.

http://beer.thisdysfunctional.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1754&stc=1


here is the front of mine.

Are those bronco springs Reuben?

how does it drive?

yes they are 5.5 wildhorses springs in the front and rear. soon to be 3.5 in the rear.it drives, well....it drives great on to the trailer.