: Longer springs?


smithers
01-23-2005, 01:38 PM
I need some 7" lift springs for the rear of my D1, at a reasonable price and good quality. Do you have any ideas?

Thanks

TuffRR
01-23-2005, 02:32 PM
You need 7" lift springs??? :eek:

Are you building a Slinky or a D1?

Its hard enough to run anything above about 3" with a D1 without having to do serious geometry work. There will be no off the shelf 7" springs for a Rover, your best bet would be custom made or maybe some other model would fit.

Good luck and make sure you post pics of it on its side. :flipoff2:

Serious One
01-23-2005, 02:56 PM
You need 7" lift springs??? :eek: :flipoff2:

SMACK! :flipoff2: Nice one. :D

smithers
01-23-2005, 03:24 PM
My disco is already at the 7" level, so the geometry issues have been addressed, Thanks. I'm just looking to remove my 2" spacers and use a taller spring.

cptyarderho
01-23-2005, 04:11 PM
hmm, RTE has a 5, never seen a 7 unless you can find a similar spring for a Jeep or something. What size tires, etc... that you run 7"? Seems like it would be tipsy as hell :confused: curious to see it. Ask any of the current spring makers is they could get you a one-off set that big, but I would think it would be doubtful.

Serious One
01-23-2005, 07:27 PM
My disco is already at the 7" level, so the geometry issues have been addressed, Thanks. I'm just looking to remove my 2" spacers and use a taller spring.

Oh come on Smithers...you come in and on your first post ask for 7" taller springs and don't expect any flack? You say you have your geometry worked out, well that's great. I suspect your brake lines, drivelines, and every other line is just fine and dandy too eh? Well, we need some proof that you're just not some poser on a cheap hockey-puck body lift.

I, for one, would like to see some pics of the geometry and how you're making it all work. THEN I'd like to see some pics of why you actually think you need 7" taller springs and the kind of gnarly terrain your'e taking your monstrosity through.

After you produce evidence of this monster you've created, can you kindly bring out the Bigfoot corpse that's been hiding in the basement?

:shaking:

smithers
01-23-2005, 07:38 PM
WOW, my first post and I'm already getting attacked? Look I was just asking for some help. There were pictures of my rig on here a couple of years back, when it was first assembled. Anyway, if you can help with the springs great. If not please do not respond.
Thanks.

Discosaurus
01-23-2005, 07:43 PM
hehe

Don't think he's bitin' Mikey :)

Here Smithers - http://www.rovertym.com/
Get out your money clip and ask him to wind you a set.
Over.

lwg
01-23-2005, 07:47 PM
can you kindly bring out the Bigfoot corpse that's been hiding in the basement?

:shaking:

:laughing:

cptyarderho
01-23-2005, 08:13 PM
not quite an attack yet, but my question remains unanswered. Why the need for a 7" spring? Maybe there is a scenario where it makes sense, I cannot picture it.
Oh- and this thread is useless without pics.

Buckon37s
01-23-2005, 08:15 PM
Call Valley Spring, give them your demensions, requirements and $250 and they will make you a set. Now post pics, we are all thinking that this has about an 80% chance of being :rainbow:

JSBriggs
01-23-2005, 08:45 PM
You don't happen to have a red RR do you???

-Jeff

lwg
01-23-2005, 09:40 PM
You don't happen to have a red RR do you???

-Jeff

Yes I do!

smithers
01-23-2005, 10:22 PM
I have a green Disco 1 on 37 mtr's. I'm not interested in posting pics. Like I mentioned before about 2 years ago someone did post pics of my disco on here. I'm sure that the next post must be to the effect that somthing has to be wrong with what I have done to my rig? Nobody should ever need a Disco that big, right? I could still use the springs if anybody can help.

SeaRover
01-23-2005, 10:26 PM
>> Look I was just asking for some help.

... and we were just asking some questions. grow some thicker skin and start talkin', newbie.

madcowdungbeetle
01-23-2005, 10:27 PM
i remember, it was the northwest rover performance site or something like that...

smithers
01-23-2005, 10:34 PM
You were not just asking questions. You were assuming that I did not know what I was talking about or maybe I'm full of shit either way I must be a poser, right.

SeaRover
01-23-2005, 11:02 PM
<< You were not just asking questions. You were assuming that I did not know what I was talking about or maybe I'm full of shit either way I must be a poser, right.>>

either way we're caring less and less :rolleyes: got some tech for us?

androbus
01-24-2005, 12:15 AM
You were not just asking questions. You were assuming that I did not know what I was talking about or maybe I'm full of shit either way I must be a poser, right.

well, you are coming accross as one

....or a troll, to many of us!!

we are here to help each other, and have always asked each other what we were doing to get where mechanicaly etc..with photos to explain things. this is NORMAL! in the general human populace! don't get all huffy, and share what you have. if you are agonna be like this you will continue to get similar response.
remember the PBB is famous for dumping on people for being stupid or similar, it's YOUR responsibility to prove otherwise, not to make your response.

if you do, and tone down your attitude you will be accepted here. if not, well...anyway....

I for one would love to see photos and some tech about what you did as would the rest of us.

Paul(who just can't see how you can fit 37" tires under a disco without jacking it up like one of those stupid-looking no-flex poseur trucks that never really go offroad...)

madcowdungbeetle
01-24-2005, 02:03 AM
my buddy had 37" mtrs on his disco for a while, now he's running 40" mtrs.

I'll be running something that big by spring... so it can be done.

deathorglory
01-24-2005, 07:50 AM
http://www.northwestparts.com/NWP_SPRINGS.htm

found that by searching...
you cant access that link from thier homepage, so these springs may not still be offered but anyways. there you go. 7" springs. and for only 600 bucks, what a steal...

Slunnie
01-24-2005, 08:34 AM
I have a green Disco 1 on 37 mtr's. I'm not interested in posting pics. Like I mentioned before about 2 years ago someone did post pics of my disco on here. I'm sure that the next post must be to the effect that somthing has to be wrong with what I have done to my rig? Nobody should ever need a Disco that big, right? I could still use the springs if anybody can help.
This one?
http://www.northwestparts.com/NWP_Springs/JSMITH2x.JPG

Discosaurus
01-24-2005, 08:41 AM
I'm sure that the next post must be to the effect that somthing has to be wrong with what I have done to my rig? Nobody should ever need a Disco that big, right?

Hey Pal - EVERYBODY here needs a Disco that big, if it works - that's the point. Look over the archives to see what this site is all about.

You must have had a bad experience at DiscoWeb.org sometime in the past.

Post Up, Bubba.

red90rover
01-24-2005, 10:06 AM
Anyway, if getting springs that long make sure you check into the stability of the actual springs. As that length you are working around the stability limit. You also need to be careful with proper design to keep stresses in an acceptable range, which is not really simple in a spring of that size.

IMO, it would seem simpler to use normal springs and move the upper spring perches down. Well actually, coil overs would be simpler, but this is cheaper.

Buckon37s
01-24-2005, 06:13 PM
Stock drivetrain. cool. :rolleyes:

DieLucas!
01-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Is this your truck? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hmmm...

...so the geometry issues have been addressed

How about brake lines, caster angle, and spring perch angle? Not that anybody should be concerned about these while driving off road, much less on the street :shaking: The quick and dirty response is to tell us this is not your truck. Please, this isn't your truck, right?

androbus
01-24-2005, 06:33 PM
This one?
http://www.northwestparts.com/NWP_Springs/JSMITH2x.JPG

is it just me...or does this have such limited upwards flex w/o fowling the body, that it's just a waste?? shouldn't the wells be hogged out for upward travel??(obviously..)

like I guessed above, like the typical posuer american rig!

what is the point? seriously? am not insulting, but am asking! is this just to wade deeper in mud or water crossings? it'll not be much help in rugged terrain on a side slope..especially with 7" flexy springs?? or are you looking fofr stiff springs...or??
expain please

cptyarderho
01-24-2005, 06:42 PM
This one?
http://www.northwestparts.com/NWP_Springs/JSMITH2x.JPG

How can anyone hate on mad flex like that? :p
Any more and it tips over.
no one is assuming much (yet) but as a newbie to rovers myself this sounds way strange. I have seen more than a few big Rovers at events here on the east coast, but nothing with springs that big.I can only imagine what the arms look like..______
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I love booty fab pics, so come clean!

DieLucas!
01-24-2005, 06:44 PM
The truth is we're all a bunch of haterz and your ride is the shinznit.

TuffRR
01-24-2005, 08:37 PM
This one?
http://www.northwestparts.com/NWP_Springs/JSMITH2x.JPG


How do you reach the roofrack? Do things come off it covered in snow? :D

Seriously, post up the tech and everyone will be keen to help. Deep down we all want to run 7" springs and want to know how you fixed all the geometry issues!

androbus
01-24-2005, 09:58 PM
How do you reach the roofrack? Do things come off it covered in snow? :D

Seriously, post up the tech and everyone will be keen to help. Deep down we all want to run 7" springs and want to know how you fixed all the geometry issues!

if it could work, we'd love to know how !

all I want to have really is maybe 35" but don' wanna deal with the upgrades right now...until I talk with a friend....an w/o certain axles and all it'll be al breakin again like the old daze...pm me TomW!


Paul(with sawzall(ok makita(sawzall's deep in storage..can't find it...) between me and the disco, but no incentive..yet...yeah right...it's been cut up ages ago for 34", but...)

SonarRover
01-25-2005, 12:11 AM
Hmmmm, perhaps your next mod should be a complete exocage. Or is it too late? Is that why no new pics? :D

Grimace
01-25-2005, 03:06 AM
My range rover was about 6.5" over standard when i first put my springs in (rovertym 5" lift) it has droped to about 5-5.5", its a bitch :D

I could lift it another 2 inches but there is no way I would...... After i finish the bar work I will be dropping the springs buy 2 inches and fitting a BL.... the 35s will be replaced with 38s.....

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP YOUR TRUCK AT 7" OF LIFT..... ?
You seem to have run away from this thread so maybe its all :rainbow:
Put sum recent pics up of it and sum OFFroad shots b4 i go to :zzz:

Serious One
01-25-2005, 07:15 AM
Hmmmm, perhaps your next mod should be a complete exocage. Or is it too late? Is that why no new pics? :D

Yeah, and then he can carry around a bunch of tractor weights on the roofrack to make it even more topheavy.

I wanna see some pics of this guy gettin' it. :rolleyes:

merv
01-27-2005, 02:36 AM
This had turned into a very funny thread. Anyone remember 3 or 4 years ago when it was shock and horror at the thoughts of putting 35" tyres on a D90? 33" on a Disco?

Anyone who never made a mistake never made nuthin. I for one would love to see how a D1 can be made work with 7" springs and 37" tyres. Anyone want to admit this guy has figured out something that everyone else missed? All we gotta do is see the rig.

Worst that can happen is that some of the folks here pass smarty pants comments. And that happened already so thats no biggie.

Best that can happen is that you get the credit for a few new or novel ideas that bypassed the rest of the Disco crew (distancing myself here.. :cool2: )

Show or describe what ya got. Nutthin to loose, and possible loads to gain if someone can point out any possible flaws in what ya got.

Serious One
01-27-2005, 07:22 AM
Anyone want to admit this guy has figured out something that everyone else missed?

Yeah, come on Einstein, post up on how you have managed to defeat the fundamental laws of physics as we know them.

Post up or shuddup.

DiscoDino
01-27-2005, 07:47 AM
We all realized that longer springs are USELESS back in the late 90s...its all about having stable articulation, enough clearance for bigger tires, and the drivetrain to suit...the clearance used to be solely from springs, then people started body lifting, then others started cutting...it IS a balance of all of these and more to get the largest tires CORRECTLY on your rig...its not ONE or the OTHER than wins!

This guys is STILL at the point of 7" springs? Damn, I was on 4" and puking!

TuffRR
01-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Funny how the Rover guys (well most of us :rolleyes: ) realised that huge lifts are :rainbow: years ago. Toyota and Nissan guys over here are still super keen on fitting 5"+ spring lifts even though their wheel arches are huge to start.

cptyarderho
01-27-2005, 03:38 PM
I am not saying it is a crappy idea (yet) just curious. I will admit I was wrong if the proof is there, and I will listen to anyone for ideas. That is why I have so few posts in 2 years, I mostly lurk. :flipoff2:
AGAIN- no pics no point, unless you are still a the mall. :p