: help with recomending a good tire for tracker please
pirhana 01-28-2005, 08:29 AM I am about to purchase a 94 geo tracker wich will be used primarily for a daily driver back and forth to work and occasional ride into town, but will be used for light to moderate off roading in the trails up here in the pocono mountains. I would like to put offroad tires on the tracker after giving the ride a 2-3 inch lift but not going much taller then that but I have NO IDEA of what sized tires to go with being a noob in tires. I like the appearance of the TSL Boggers ( told to go with raidal for daily driving ) but still unsure of what size or if even boggers is the right choice. I dont want that stuffed look you get with stuffing the biggests fat tire one can get under the fenders, but do want an aggressive look and performance from the tires... Can anyone kind of push me in a direction of what size I should be looking at?? I do howver want to go with a wider tire then there is on there now, for better balance and traction. Thank you for any information you guys may provide.
SilverZuk 01-28-2005, 08:41 AM 30x9.50 sidewainder fir on my cousins stock soft top with no lift or trimming.
You have a lot to learn if you are thinking about putting a bogger on a DD.
Go with a radial.
You also might want to put on your flame suit.
pirhana 01-28-2005, 08:51 AM 30x9.50 sidewainder fir on my cousins stock soft top with no lift or trimming.
Ok, so the 30x9.50 tires fits on the stock ride, does it look stuffed under there or is there good ammount of travel room for the tire? Thinking if he has the 30 under there with no suspension lift, then a 2-3" suspension lift should provide a decent ammount of room. thanks for the reply.
Any thoughts as to what type of super swamper I should run under there? I am looking on super swamper site now and love the look of these particular tires, but what is best for a daily driver that will be used for light to moderate offroading in the pocono mountains?
Super Swamper TSL
Super Swamper TSL/SX
Super Swamper Radial SSR
pirhana 01-28-2005, 08:54 AM 30x9.50 sidewainder fir on my cousins stock soft top with no lift or trimming.
You have a lot to learn if you are thinking about putting a bogger on a DD.
Go with a radial.
You also might want to put on your flame suit.
Hey I said I was NOOB, NO NEED IN GETTING INSULTING! I just want to get a decent look to the ride and be able to do light to moderate offroading down the trails around me... anything wrong with that?
86sami 01-28-2005, 08:54 AM The best tire i found was a round one. :p
Anyway for a DD i would recomend the Goodyear MTR, Its light, great on the rock, ok in the mud and great on the road, wears well and a 2-3" lift you would probable get a 31 squeezed on. I run the MTRs and like the alot thats my $.02 others will tell you diffrent(dont listen to them there all wrong) J/K lots of good advice on here.
pirhana 01-28-2005, 09:06 AM The best tire i found was a round one. :p
Anyway for a DD i would recomend the Goodyear MTR, Its light, great on the rock, ok in the mud and great on the road, wears well and a 2-3" lift you would probable get a 31 squeezed on. I run the MTRs and like the alot thats my $.02 others will tell you diffrent(dont listen to them there all wrong) J/K lots of good advice on here.
thanks for the advice, I had read somewhere on this forum about the Goodyear MTR being tied with super swampers but there seemed to be a conflict in that statement. I will look up the Goodyear MTR and see what they look like. Guessing being light is a plus especially considering the LOW HP these trackers have wich I am prolly going to be doing something about, granted minor but at this point anything would help out in the HP area of these rides lol
PS..
Whats DD stand for????
FJ40Dude75 01-28-2005, 09:08 AM 30 x 9.5 retread mud terrain awsome tire for the money cant beat 45 a tire and the run smooth on my tracker
Toolbox 01-28-2005, 09:47 AM tires (http://www.high-tec-retreading.com/sizes.html) Yeah, check out hi tech retread, I ran a set of OTR 31's on my old tracker and they were a great tire for the price.Mine were Michelin carcasses, which were a little stiff, but they balanced just like a new tire, which shocked me.
flatbroke 01-28-2005, 09:58 AM PS.. Whats DD stand for????
your kidding right?...DD(in case your not )=Daily Driver :shaking:
Orionn 01-28-2005, 10:46 AM Pirhana;
Chill man; SilverZuk was being nice, So I'll say it...
Search is your firend, reading gains you knowlege, Knowlege wont alow you to ask a question like this: PS..
Whats DD stand for???? or what size of tire will fit...
You asked for help, well, if you want to lift a Tracker, you need to search and read, there are not alot of options for that 4x4, and not all of them good, nor are all of them easy.
2-3" of lift on a tracker, keeping the IFS, is alot of work for very little gain.
For a DD, just run a 30" tire. Stock, the Tracker does not articulate enough to worry about rubbing if your doing light trail running.
Run the retreads or a set of BFG muds.
good luck
i agree, tossing 800 bucks worth of 30 inch rubber at a stock tracker is a lil excessive, get a generic mudder from your local tire dealer, you'll be plenty happy with them. oh and a 235/75/r15 might get you a few less odd looks when you ask for em at the counter.
pirhana 01-28-2005, 11:44 AM I should have seen DD as Daily Driver lol, oh well... Like I said, I am a noob when it comes to things like this lol
I was looking at a 3" suspension lift from CALMINI just to gain a little more ground clearance for the ride, incase someone was interested in looking up the exact lift kit I was thinking about...
CALMINI 3" SUPER ARTICULATION SYSTEM & 6" COMBO SYSTEM (http://www.puresuzuki.com/3_lift_kit.htm)
The lift kit alone was appealing to me, but unsure of the 3" body kit for a total of 6" lift between the suspension and body. I am new to off roading and totally new to trackers so no idea what a 6" lift would gain IF I went with the body lift as well.
I am not looking for as some would call them " rock crawlers " but I would like to be able to get out in the trails and have some fun, and the trails around here can be somewhat unforgiving from what I have heard.
U.P. Zuk 01-28-2005, 12:07 PM I run a set of Buckshot Maxxis Mudders 30X9.50's on my DD cherokee. They have seem to wear pretty well, and aren't super noisey on the road. I would try to stick to a radial tire because you'll get more give from them and when you air down you'll most likely get a bigger foot print than with a bias ply tire. I know a couple guys running the Hi-tech re-treads and love them, they would be a good choice because they are very affordable and you may want to get bigger tires in the future.
When it comes to lifts take Orions advice and use the search. I have learned tons by just hanging around, reading, reading, and reading some more.
It sounds like your just getting into the Off-Roading thing. I would recomend finding a club to join. You can learn a lot from people who have been at it for a while. Plus its always best to go wheeling with friends so you have someone to help when you get stuck or broken.
Don't be afraid to wheel your stocker. I wheeled a stock toyota pickup for years and even wheel my Chrokee a little. Stockers are a lot of fun.
pirhana 01-28-2005, 01:58 PM I run a set of Buckshot Maxxis Mudders 30X9.50's on my DD cherokee. They have seem to wear pretty well, and aren't super noisey on the road. I would try to stick to a radial tire because you'll get more give from them and when you air down you'll most likely get a bigger foot print than with a bias ply tire. I know a couple guys running the Hi-tech re-treads and love them, they would be a good choice because they are very affordable and you may want to get bigger tires in the future.
When it comes to lifts take Orions advice and use the search. I have learned tons by just hanging around, reading, reading, and reading some more.
It sounds like your just getting into the Off-Roading thing. I would recomend finding a club to join. You can learn a lot from people who have been at it for a while. Plus its always best to go wheeling with friends so you have someone to help when you get stuck or broken.
Don't be afraid to wheel your stocker. I wheeled a stock toyota pickup for years and even wheel my Chrokee a little. Stockers are a lot of fun.
Yeah, so far everyone is saying a radial tire so thats what I am going to stick with, its just a question as to what size lol... hearing anywhere from 30 - 33". Considering I am not looking for the stuffed under the fender look I will prolly go with the 30".
This will be my first real attempt to offroading and my two brotherinlaws are beginners in this offroading thing as well ( but have at least a year or more experience on me ) so I would probably be offroading with them. I am however looking for an offroad club in my local area to get out with the more experienced offroaders to learn more about it, but even then the tracker prolly wont be abused too much off roading and more just for the fun of getting out there and getting it dirty from time to time.
Just for those who might ask what my brotherinlaws have for offroad... the one has a 96 toyota pickup with 4" lift 31"s ( dunno what make ) and an aftermarket exhaust system from the cat back, while the other has an older montero that has 3-4" lift ( I believe ) with a conquest turbo motor and custom exhaust from the exhaust manifold back and has 33's for tires and again, dunno what make they are lol
bob large 01-28-2005, 02:41 PM NO NEED IN GETTING INSULTING!
Ya i'd go with the Boggers. There great for daily drivers. :laughing: Lets say a 44, that would look about right. and just some minor fender trimming. :flipoff2:
pirhana 01-28-2005, 02:47 PM Ya i'd go with the Boggers. There great for daily drivers. :laughing: Lets say a 44, that would look about right. and just some minor fender trimming. :flipoff2:
ROFLOL, yeah ok, I am taking that idea seriousely lol. I do know that boggers have problems for daily driving, one being road noise and another being flat spots in the tires when sitting for a while... say when at work. And 44's??? I dont want the stuffed look and thinking a 44" tire on a tracker would definately qualify as " STUFFED ". Dont even think the tracker would be able to turn a 44" tire well if at all lol
But hey, thanks for the comic relief :flipoff2:
pirhana 01-28-2005, 02:54 PM But since I am allready seing a potential for noob bashing here, let me attempt to squash it before it gets out of hand. I like the look of super swampers and aggressive tires, but having been told about the short falls of having " boggers " on a DD and advised to go with a radial tire in the 30 - 31" size, it looks as if I am going to end up with Super Swamper Radial SSR. they are radials with the aggressive pattern I am looking for, and according to the sites I have read about these particular tires are good for on road and offroad as the offroad lugs dont touch the road
Toolbox 01-28-2005, 06:36 PM , it looks as if I am going to end up with Super Swamper Radial SSR. they are radials with the aggressive pattern I am looking for, and according to the sites I have read about these particular tires are good for on road and offroad as the offroad lugs dont touch the road They are one mother-fawking heavy tire. :eek: That'll sap what precious power that engines got.
Orionn 01-28-2005, 08:09 PM Just a word about the 3" body lift:
DON'T DO IT!
Anything more than a 2" body lift and you start to stress the body mounts, as well as the bolts and frame mounts.
Lifting the body does little more than give clearence to the tires. YOur better off achiving this by triming back the fenders and quarter panels and adding a set of flairs.
You will get some who will say I am full of $**t, and more than a few use 3" or more body lift. Well good for them. :shaking:
As for tires, listen to Tollbox. If you run that swamper under the tracker, on the front, you WILL be replacing the half shafts, and potentially the Aluminum half axle housing as well.
On road you wont have problems except the HP loss, Ofroad you will eventially :nuke:
the rear axle will be OK for tires up to 33"
bob large 01-28-2005, 08:53 PM But hey, thanks for the comic relief
Well, I aim to please. :flipoff2:
But to get real for a second. Bogger’s are about the most aggressive, worse riding, loudest tire that’s dot approved. Don’t even think about running them on a daily driver unless you’re a hardcore wheeler. Now if you want to go Interco, then take a look at the TrXus. If you want to go Goodyear, then the MTR. They work pretty well in the mud, great on the rocks, and are not bad at all on the road. The TrXus’s compare about the same to the MTR, from what I’m told. I have no personal experience with TrXus. But quite a bit with the MTR (which I love).
As for what size you should run, I have no info.
http://www.intercotire.com/assets/images/trexus_mud_terrain-200.jpg
Zuki Tyler 01-29-2005, 10:19 AM I do know that boggers have problems for daily driving
pfff...I like not being able to hear my engine when I drive around the block.
:flipoff2:
pirhana 01-29-2005, 01:17 PM well, I went and purchased the tracker today, I pretty much knew I would considering the great shape the body was in as well as how clean the interior was, but it all rested on the test drive today... passed with flying colors. I got the tracker home about an hour ago and rather then taking the driveway in, I went in through the woods in 14" of snow wich required going over a small 30 degree angled hump from off the road, manuvered around the few trees and brought it into the driveway... didnt get stuck once BUT was a little squirley in that snow, after all these trucks are light I suppose, either that or there was a sheet of ice under the snow :D . All in all, for the power that these trackers have and ground clearance, I figured taking it through the woods to my driveway was a good starting point for a test to see what the tracker could offer... You can bet you will be hearing from me soon with the upcoming things to do and doing on this tracker
MuddMachine 01-29-2005, 04:00 PM Go with the TRXUS, I think theyre better than the MTR
pirhana 01-29-2005, 04:18 PM ok, will look into trixxus as well...
A little information regarding the trackers state as of now.... just bought a performance chip and a cold air intake off ebay for the tracker, sending out funds monday morning ( paypal empty lol ) and should recieve the intake and performance chip by friday/saturday lol... and the mods begin lol
Bobzooki 01-31-2005, 02:35 PM Here's what those Goodyear MTR's look like - 31 X 10.50's - (and the Calmini 6" lift).
1bille1 01-31-2005, 02:50 PM Go w/ the MTR's and get them "siped" in the center tread portion. They 're a good wearing tire on road and longer even still when cut... CAll around- most tire shops say, " Siped, what's that? "
Shouldn't be more than $15 per tire.
86sami 01-31-2005, 04:47 PM "Siped whats that" JK If they are siped will they balance, just wondering as its his DD.
pirhana 02-01-2005, 03:54 AM lol ok, now I know I have ALOT to learn lol... WHAT IS SIPED... Thinking your refering to having the center tread cut but not certain so asking just to make sure
BTW, that ZUK with the calamini 6" lift and MTR 31" tires is hot... think MTR might just be the way to go after all lol
Bobzooki 02-01-2005, 06:12 AM Siping (sy-ping) cutting little thin cuts through the big lugs on the tire - it gives you more "edges", and greatly improves your handling on ice. My Goodyear dealer cringes when I mention it. So, the local direct sales place will do it for $10 per tire, I believe. I haven't done it yet. One of my friends has done it on her 35's she's got under her behemoth Wrangler, and loves it.
This, of course, is just the beginning...
http://img183.exs.cx/img183/9340/bellyarmorsmall7ag.th.jpg (http://img183.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img183&image=bellyarmorsmall7ag.jpg)
zookiemike 02-01-2005, 09:35 AM I like my MTR's
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/502000-502999/502516_31_full.jpg
Bobzooki 02-01-2005, 11:00 AM just bought a performance chip and a cold air intake off ebay for the tracker
Do NOT put the "performance chip" on your rig. It is a rip-off, that tells your ECM that the air temperature is always 32º - which is going to end up giving you no gain in HP, and will burn up your plugs faster, if I remember correctly, from those who have done it. The cold air intake will help a bit - until you dunk it under water, and destroy your engine. Think "snorkel".
shmoesmith 02-01-2005, 04:23 PM I took a chance on the hi-tec retreads and they are fawkin awesome..first time I used them,I took them up the moab rim trail and on goldbar rim...pounded the crap out of them, but they look great and hold up great. I have around 10,000 miles on them now and they still look almost new. go with their all terrain tire. SERIOUSLY, THEY GRIP BETTTER THAN THE BFG ALLTERRAINS I HAD ON MY TRACKER, AND THE MUD TERRAINS. I am sold on them and will not buy another new tire and will be a customer for life. My whole set, including shipping cost me around $260...hell, for that price, you can buy 3 sets of them and be setup for a couple of years, rather than one set of brand new tires....dont mean to advertise for them or anythign, but I have absolutly nothing bad to say about them as a vice and no other tire I havetried on my truck, sammy or tracker has even come close to how well they grip and hold up.
86sami 02-01-2005, 07:09 PM Do NOT put the "performance chip" on your rig. It is a rip-off, that tells your ECM that the air temperature is always 32º - which is going to end up giving you no gain in HP, and will burn up your plugs faster, if I remember correctly, from those who have done it. The cold air intake will help a bit - until you dunk it under water, and destroy your engine. Think "snorkel".
What he said, and a snorkel looks cool,
Is it an automatic or 5 speed if it auto, you could swap the 3rd members from a 5 speed (2door) and that will give you lower gearing giving you more power to the wheels. 3rd member are the peice that the drive shafts connect to on the the front and rear axels. you should be able to resell your 3rds and make most of your $$ back. MTRs
pirhana 02-02-2005, 12:47 PM What he said, and a snorkel looks cool,
Is it an automatic or 5 speed if it auto, you could swap the 3rd members from a 5 speed (2door) and that will give you lower gearing giving you more power to the wheels. 3rd member are the peice that the drive shafts connect to on the the front and rear axels. you should be able to resell your 3rds and make most of your $$ back. MTRs
LOL ok, so no performance chip and the Air Intake would be bad idea IF I were to get too deep in water... Hadnt thought about it that way, and didnt know of any snorkel kits for the tracker, wil have to look into that.
My tracker is a 5 speed manual 2 door... so guessing the job your talking about is allready done??
jollypirate 02-02-2005, 02:55 PM if you don't mind a loud hum and a bumpier ride, i would go with ltb's or boggers.
pirhana 02-02-2005, 03:43 PM lol, no thanks... the ride is choppy as it is lol, then again I AM used to sport sedans so maybe its just me lol
pirhana 02-02-2005, 03:46 PM Started to look into snorkels... any thoughts on safari snorkels? They seem to be boasting GREAT product, but then again EVERY manufacturer regardless of what they are selling claims to have the best product lol
jollypirate 02-02-2005, 03:58 PM i would go the DIY route with some pvc pipe, costs 20 bucks and works just as good.
Bobzooki 02-03-2005, 08:41 AM Started to look into snorkels... any thoughts on safari snorkels? They seem to be boasting GREAT product, but then again EVERY manufacturer regardless of what they are selling claims to have the best product lol
I absofawkinglutely LOVE my Safari Snorkel.
It's saved my cookies more than once!
http://www.rocky-road.com/kicksnork.html
Trust me they're a great off road tire but not good for a daily driver. Here's mine 32.5R15 on a Calmini 6" combo lift.
Bobzooki 02-03-2005, 09:38 AM Wow, that's a LOT of black! I thought Thunderchickens weren't good for ANYthing???
Wow, that's a LOT of black! I thought Thunderchickens weren't good for ANYthing???
Baaka, Baaka, Baaka, Baaka SUPERCHICKEN ! ! ! Good for cursing the numb nut that threw out the cigarette butt, and I found it by driving over it...
pirhana 02-03-2005, 10:40 AM Trust me they're a great off road tire but not good for a daily driver. Here's mine 32.5R15 on a Calmini 6" combo lift.
SWEEEEEET ride!!!!!!! Well now I know approximately what my ride will look like with the lift with the exception to having different tires :D
pirhana 02-03-2005, 10:42 AM I absofawkinglutely LOVE my Safari Snorkel.
It's saved my cookies more than once!
http://www.rocky-road.com/kicksnork.html
Thanks for the link... not too bad of a price either
Bobzooki 02-03-2005, 11:03 AM Thanks for the link... not too bad of a price either
That's ME on their website, with the "Oh Shit" look on my face.
And I see that now it says sometyhing like "90-94" Kicks... Well, I don't understand that, seeing as how mine's a 95, and took no modification or whatever.
pirhana 02-03-2005, 11:46 AM That's ME on their website, with the "Oh Shit" look on my face.
And I see that now it says sometyhing like "90-94" Kicks... Well, I don't understand that, seeing as how mine's a 95, and took no modification or whatever.
Sweet ride... and yeah seing the " oh sh*t " look lol
whitfield 02-06-2005, 12:20 AM 36" TSL's
http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/whitfimb/P1011244.JPG
or
34" LTB's
http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/whitfimb/whitfield_kodack1.jpg
31" LTB's would work well for ya. 2" Sky MFG. body lift & some EBAY Jeep Coil spacers (Cut the centers out to fit 2.25" or 2.5" ID ). Then modify/adjust the lower strut hole to realign. And last, Trim the rear of the front fenders to match your taste.
Sidekick Lift write up... http://www.zuwharrie.com/content/view/11/27/
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