YES I DID DO A SEARCH :flipoff2: I was wondering if any one has ever seen, heard, made, or used a lifted spring perch on toyota axles? If so could you let me knwo where to get them or how I can make them? Thanks........look I even said thanks!!!!!

Build one out of 2x4x.250 tubing. Use a hole saw to make the cut-out for the axle tube, and weld it on nice and slow.

Or if you're using perches in the stock location, just weld something on top of the perch and put a hole in it for the center pin. ROKTOY did his that way:
<img src="http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk3/toyota/perch.gif">

I would not suggest running a higher pad up front if you want to be able to use a hi-steer set up.. You will be into your spring with the draglink and tierod.

In the back, you can just use a normal Samurai pad if you like.. I used a couple of Petroworks pads, and they fit just fine.

In the front, you have a larger axle tube, so you will need to get a Toyota pad. Also keep in mind that Toyota pads are not even on either side in the front. There is about 1/2" difference in height.

I'm going to head over to Currie tonight and see about getting a 1" pad for a 3" tube that I'm told they sell for about $13. This will go on the driver's side tube, and make it level to the stock pad on the passenger side. I'm leaving the passenger side pad where it is, and basically adding onto it towards the pumpkin to correct for the spring spacing. I will not run a u-bolt next to the pumpkin, but a couple of bolts as the lack of space gets tight. I should have some pictures up in a week or so.

-Wayne

Doesn't a taller pad cause more problems? You end up moving the spring up but the mounting point for the steering linkage on the steering knuckle moves down (assuming your tring to keep the draglink above the springs).

Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
Doesn't a taller pad cause more problems?
Yes. Especially if it's crossover. But he asked...

Is that true even if I am gong to run wrangler springs?

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
Is that true even if I am gong to run wrangler springs?

Lets put it this way.. Why in the world would you want to run a lifted spring perch? They only help increase spring wrap, which is already an issue with Wrangler springs. :eek:

I see no good reason to run a lifted spring perch. They are for fools that buy Glenns stuff.

-Wayne

So what you are saying is that I can run a 36in tire with stock wrangler springs on top of toyota axles and they'll fit?

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
So what you are saying is that I can run a 36in tire with stock wrangler springs on top of toyota axles and they'll fit?

I'm not a big beliver in lifting a vehicle more to clear tires.. So my answer will always be YES.

Just open up the body as needed. You will have a better rig for the bit of extra work. Any idiot can make a tall rig, but it takes skill to make a good rig!

-Wayne

well, if you realy wanted to screw things up and be a danger to your self and the comunity.. you could just use lift blocks.. hell, get a bunch of them and just stack them- that way you can get enough room for 44's..

got to think in terms of cause and effect, you move the point of leverage farther away , springs will wrap ezer. its just like putting a cheater on a wrench.

Can some one tell me how to make it BIGGER BIGGER :)



Dan:massey: LOL

Wow ladies :eek: I was just looking for a little lift. I do plan on cutting the body but really didn''t want to do that much. I don't under stand why SOME of you guy's get bent out of shape when some one askes a question. This sight is really good to get questions answered by some helpful and nice people! But then you have the ones that :crybaby2: and get :mad3: when ever some one tryes to get a little info. If you can give a helpful insight with out being :rainbow: about it than why even reply? And again I do under stand that it isn't all of you out there it is only a few. I have been helped out alot by some very nice and under standing people. Oh yea just because some of are newbies to the sight dosn't mean that we aren't experienced rock crawlers.

Can you feel the love? :D

Devin,
I figured Steve was going to fab the perches for ya. If you run all the hardcore trails with 32's why do you need 36's.

Did you sell your hard top yet?

Jeff, I am running 36's so I can run Pebbles and Bam Bam. Witch dosn't really matter me running 36's with Steve running 42's is still like running the way I am. If your picken up what I am putting down. Besides when am I going to see you get off the stocker trails. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Well, not ain't he nice..

I thought the start of this thread was very honest in opinions, and maybe the lift blocks got a little :rasta: , but he was helping to illustrate the point. On Toyota axles, you don't have the luzury of being able to use that shitty lifting device up front because of the limitations of the hi-steer. You will simply have to use a lift springs, or open up the sheet metal. To clear a 36" tire, isn't that bad on a Zuk. In terms of opening things up.

Have fun..

-Wayne

I am seeing you point. and a good one it is. Is any one currently useing wrangler springs and 36's on a sammy?

I have a buddy running 37" boggers and YJs at all four corners of his Sammy. I'll see if I can find some pics... but he hacked a lot, IIRC.

That would be great:D See this is what I mean buy nice people helping out with out being :rainbow: about it.

Thanks Yota_san

I saw this somewhere

http://www.jonesn.freeservers.com/images/spring-shock-mounttoyaxle.jpg

Originally posted by jonesk9
I saw this somewhere

http://www.jonesn.freeservers.com/images/spring-shock-mounttoyaxle.jpg

Looks like: http://www.allprooffroad.com/perch.html

made for the rear axle only.. Was just chatting with Terry over there about this as I'm about to cut my own fron spring pad. Checked with Currie, but they only have a 3/8" pad, as does Allpro. So I'm making my own custom 1" pad to level the front pads. (I am not touching the pumpkin side pad.)

-Wayne

http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/sean1.JPG

This is my rig with stock yjs in the front and 35s....the fender openings have been raised 2.5 inches. The front is tubed now, so there is plenty of clearance now!

Originally posted by jonesk9
<img src="http://www.jonesn.freeservers.com/images/spring-shock-mounttoyaxle.jpg">[/IMG]
My buddy with the 37s on his Sammy has D44s setup like that - bolts tapped into the plates, instead of using U-bolts. I'd rather run U bolts with the threads flipped upards, personally. I'd be too worried about the mild steel's threads stripping out over time.

Originally posted by RotoZuk:
...but they only have a 3/8" pad, as does Allpro. So I'm making my own custom 1" pad to level the front pads. (I am not touching the pumpkin side pad.)

-Wayne
The hieight difference between the front pads on a Toy axle is 3/8" - not sure where the 1" fits in?

you are forgetting the big picture. move the axel forward to clear tge 36's. move it forward about 5-7" and you will be reall happy. scawfish, do you have problems with rubbing on compression?

scawfish, do you have problems with rubbing on compression?

I wouldnt know, its not a runner yet. Now that the front is tubed though there is a ton of clearance.

Originally posted by Yota_san

The hieight difference between the front pads on a Toy axle is 3/8" - not sure where the 1" fits in?

Well, when you chop off the stock driver's side pad, you need a pad that is about 1 inch tall to be even with the passenger side pad. Built the new pad today. Turned out nice. I'd post some pictures, but I left the camera at a friend's garage.

I'll be happy when this build up is on the road.. Too much, too long, too expensive.. I miss my beast.

-Wayne