I lost my red star and am too cheap to re-up..


Shouldn't member #6 be exempt from paying dues... Seriously. :rolleyes:

Drove down (near) Rubicon Springs Friday, what an adventure..

First on the drive up the engine started rattling, for some reason I thought it was an exhaust leak and kept driving until it heated up to 240 when I realized I had no oil pressure and had been driving on it that way for quite some time. Ooops..

Pulled over and called a buddy who brought me a couple quarts of oil. It fired up and sounded fine although it still did not register oil. Motored on to South Lake Tahoe where I picked up my Dad and we started in on the trail. My fuel pump has been whining since day one but as we were driving along near Miller lake I said "eventually that pump is just going to stop" and literally right after.. it did. Luckily I had a spare so I swapped it and drove on. I guess I pinched a hose so not much further after smelling fuel we checked it out and had to replace a fuel line. No big deal on we go. A few odd noises caused us to stop but we couldn't figure it out until the bottom of Cadillac where bam no power and.. no transfer case. It literally fell off, the aluminum coupler broke 3 of the 4 ears off on my 203/300 Northwest fab coupler and we were done!

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/44503_1416342283266_1073861600_30998230_69045_n.si zed.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/46163_1415076251616_1073861600_30993948_486645_n.s ized.jpg

Set up camp and first thing in the morning I pulled off the broken parts for a hike to town. Luckily some guys in a XJ drove by right then and gave us a ride. They were on their way to get parts for 2 of their rigs that were dead at the springs. Got back to tahoma and called for a ride. Called around and found a guy to weld the ears back on, and he did a nice job (pics to come).

I posted some pics up on my good ol facebook account and called a few friends but Mocha Mike came to the rescue since he was camping near by. He not only gave me and my dad a ride back but provided some killer manifold rito's and Tecate! You rock Mike!!

So we made good time back to my rig and I put in the doubler and hooked everything back up. Fired it up and we were off... for a bit. Right at that rock that keeps you from going down the hill I spit out a cap and destroyed my stub and inner shafts. A bit beat by now I just unlocked the hubs and kept going. "Practically" no more issues, my track bar busted off but that didn't stop me as I did finally drive out under my own power. Oh yea, one of my rear caliper pistons was leaking fluid as well as my power steering pump and since the adapter was welded some of the seals could not go back in right and it leaks so I need to fix that..

Shew, that was an eventful couple days. Other than those issues I was diggin the scout, out of all the rigs I've driven it feels the best. Got the front end mostly tore down and I am going to turn the knuckles (I have 16 degrees of caster) toss in another shaft and hit the trail again.

WOW, now that was a trip from hell . I hope they all get better after this one.

Brandon drives better in 3 wheel drive than I do in 4.

What a fun extra trip to my week in Tahoe...

Pix of carnage/trip out...

Welded adapter:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1512.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1514.jpg

First 100 feet after fix (every time he stopped I cringed)...
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1515.jpg

This the section his D44 spit a cap.... I pulled up & stopped,liked the way my rig looked, so snapped a pic: (sorry for the clutter Brandon)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1516.jpg

Look out at the top of Cadillac at Sunset:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1520.jpg

Ray told me what happened. Sorry to hear you had so many problems with your Scout. I am glad you took that other pump with you, we just talked last week on how that thing sounded like it was going to go out soon.

Even after seeing all that carnage, seeing pics of you camped in the Con makes me want to keep and build my Scout even more. :smokin:

I pulled up & stopped,liked the way my rig looked, so snapped a pic: (sorry for the clutter Brandon)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1516.jpg


^^^Nobody likes a smart ass show off Mike. "Oh look, Brandon broke and axle, let me get my poser mall crawl on." :flipoff2:

j/k The Scout looks good Mike.:grinpimp:


Look out at the top of Cadillac at Sunset:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/mochamike/Wheeling/Rubicon0810/IMG_1520.jpg

^^^ That is a cool pic.

Brandon, sorry that you had problems. Is this the first real 'wheeling trip since you got it "done" ? Even with the busted parts, it sounds like you had a good trip. :beer:

Which version of the NWF doubler do you have? Kyle mentioned that had updated the design, but it looks like yours is already the newer design.

Looks like you'll need to add another mount to take the stress off the adapter. The clocking feature is neat, but it's obviously a weak point. That's why I passed on getting the NWF doubler and ended up with an all steel Jed's doubler.

No regrets, had a great time! Yea, really the first wheeling trip in the rocks anyway.

Sent an email to NWF last night, will try to follow up with a phone call today. Curious to see what they say and yes, looking at ideas to support the 300, ideally to the 203. I don't think jeds makes one to a 300 but I'll have to look.

Yeah, I have a 203/205, I don't think Jeds has a 203/300 doubler....but I bet his Ford 6 bolt round pattern would bolt up, not sure about the 203 to 300 mid-shaft though.

Man....... sorry i missed out. I was definately surprised to get a call from you on a Saturday.....

Kyle at NWF wrote me back and then I called him up. He's hooking me up with the newer style adapter, looking forward to that. Gonna go ahead and cut/turn my knuckles - been putting that off forever. Thinking about 5 degrees instead of 16..

Kyle at NWF wrote me back and then I called him up. He's hooking me up with the newer style adapter, looking forward to that. Gonna go ahead and cut/turn my knuckles - been putting that off forever. Thinking about 5 degrees instead of 16..

Good idea.

Good to know NWF hooked you up like that.

Glad to hear you got it on the trail. That section is tough for sure.

Right on Mike:smokin: Right place at the right time.

Kyle at NWF wrote me back and then I called him up. He's hooking me up with the newer style adapter, looking forward to that.

That's cool that he's going to send you a new one. I'd be curious to see the difference(s) in the new design.

They have new directions on their web site that show the new design, looks to be MUCH better just by the pictures (no little tab ears to hold the entire outer case on). I think I am actually getting the exact pieces that are in the tech article :)

Man....... sorry i missed out. I was definately surprised to get a call from you on a Saturday.....

I just called the guys that gave me a ride out, they are still stuck down there :eek:

I posted in the ruby section, I really hope someone pulls through to help them out.

They have new directions on their web site that show the new design, looks to be MUCH better just by the pictures (no little tab ears to hold the entire outer case on). I think I am actually getting the exact pieces that are in the tech article :)

Hmmm that new design does look beefier. The last time I looked they still had pics of the old style, but it's been a year or two since I had last looked.

You'll still want to add another crossmember and mount to support the D300.

on a positive note, both rigs look good.

did you happen to be at kragen on bradshaw today?

Saw a scout that looked a whole lot like yours but with the top off. Was gonna stop in and say hi since that kragen is my home base, since i live right there, but had to run and rescue my wife with a flat tire.

Nope, rig is in the garage tore down.....

then you have a twin scout. Same primer/brown color, didnt see wheel/tire combo. Had top off and a family 4pt lookin roll bar.


weird

Both knuckles are cut and free, where's the bible on what to use for caster? Guessing 5 degrees..

Waiting on the NWF parts so I can get it back out again..

Also looking at some chromo shafts, what's the dealio..

Looking at the Yukon shafts. Little tight on funds (ok very tight) but I don't have a spare shaft so at the least I'd like to get the short side stuff (dodge d44 length short side).

Both knuckles are cut and free, where's the bible on what to use for caster? Guessing 5 degrees..



Yeah 5 to 7* seems to be a pretty good number to shoot for.

a little more if you are running hydro, helps with return to center

Sucks dude...that is some broken shit right there.

Glad to hear it is at least back in the garage.

let's see, minor stuff...

Ordered new BJ's (ball joints). Ordered the XRF's or whatever based on a pirate search. Less than 100 bones shipped and they have good reviews so we'll see. Ditching my steering spacers and bolts so also ordered new knuckle studs. All the little needle bearings popped out of one of my spindles so I ordered a new bearing there, hoping that's not too much of a PIA to swap out..

New Brake MC, and what I thought was a leaky rear caliper was actually the rear axle about to slide out (loose) and oil coming out on the tire. Waiting for my new doubler still so the rig is still on jack stands for another weekend...

Oh yea, yukon doesn't make a short side dodge shaft so I need to find someone else that does, or someone that will custom cut a 17.1" long one..

Have a spare stocker with a new 760x ready to go in for now..

Brandon,

Yukon is running a 1/2 off sale, let me know if you want in.

will they do custom cut shafts? I need a dodge short side (17.1") and they don't list it..

Long side is wagoneer, a bit more common.

Brandon,

Yukon is running a 1/2 off sale, let me know if you want in.

so.. you gonna give me a quote or what? :grinpimp:

question on D44 ball joints. What are the specs?

Tighten bottom to.. 70?

Tighten adjuster to.. 50?

Tighten top nut to?

thx...

question on D44 ball joints. What are the specs?

Tighten bottom to.. 70?

Tighten adjuster to.. 50?

Tighten top nut to?

thx...

I always went 80 bottom. 40 adjuster, 120 top. You don't want that adjuster coming loose.

weird, why different specs

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PDFs/Federal_Mogul_4X4_Balljoint_installation.pdf

Probably depends on the ball joint mfg. Follow the torque specs that come on the little folded up piece of paper (instructions) that you threw in the trash :flipoff2:

IIRC, when I did a set of TRW(?) ball joints it was 80ft/lbs lower, 50ft/lbs adjuster, then 100ft/lbs on the upper nut.

I used spicer joints only and was taught by some crusty old timers.:D

The billavista link shows the adjuster at 70ftlbs. That seems high to me but if it says it.......

sorta seems to make sense to have the same torque top n bottom but who knows, my XRF's didn't come with any specs. Oh well, went with the billavista link..

Still haven't welded my C', trying to find something that tells how to tell how far out they should be based on a certain lenght axle. I built the axles a while back and it seems one is different than the other (shaft goes in further).

got my replacement NWF adapter yesterday, too bad I didn't get it before the IH run...

pics? :p

Still haven't welded my C', trying to find something that tells how to tell how far out they should be based on a certain lenght axle. I built the axles a while back and it seems one is different than the other (shaft goes in further).

Is there a question here? Do you need some kind of measurement?

it's not rocket science, I can put a tape in the tube till it bottoms and measure to the center of the BJ's but I assume the shaft should not bottom, should be some sort of tolerance..

I dunno, I shoved em in and put the outers back on. Out of town for work right now but if it steers and turns without binding I'll weld it up.

pics? :p

I need to renew my star, but I got a pic on my FB you can see :p

it's not rocket science, I can put a tape in the tube till it bottoms and measure to the center of the BJ's but I assume the shaft should not bottom, should be some sort of tolerance..

I dunno, I shoved em in and put the outers back on. Out of town for work right now but if it steers and turns without binding I'll weld it up.

This could be your opportunity to adjust the tube to a stock axle length...

I need to renew my star, but I got a pic on my FB you can see :p

Photobucket is your friend.

Here ya go. :smokin:

Photobucket is your friend.

Usually on my Droid phone so it's a pain to host elsewhere, I have my own hosting when I am not so lazy.

Thank J

so what's the stock axle tube length for a short side dodge and a long side wagoneer? I could go to the PnP but I have to be within an 1/8". I did put in stock shafts, just a bit afraid they are slightly too long but one way to find out :p

so what's the stock axle tube length for a short side dodge and a long side wagoneer? I could go to the PnP but I have to be within an 1/8". I did put in stock shafts, just a bit afraid they are slightly too long but one way to find out :p

http://www.jeepswag.com/superior/2009scat.pdf

Don't have the tube length, but here is axle length. Fronts start on page 18

went to put my 203/adapter together today but I seem to be missing the 203 locating pin

http://www.northwestfab.com/203-205adaptorinstallpg2.html

probably a little roll pin, and I probably never even had it to begin with but where the heck do I find a replacement?? Gonna call Northwest tomorrow, hate to have that stupid little part shipped from canada.

damn, it better not be as much as this 205 locating pin

http://www.makcotransmissionparts.com/301485.html

this is better..

http://cobratransmission.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=55013041

Used a needle bearing for the pin, then ran into a few other issues. The 300 would not fully seat. According to the directions I cut the mainshaft but that did nothing. Ended up grinding out about a quarter inch of the inner splines on the 203. Finally got it back together though (thanks Jeremy). Got my track bar welded back on and am ready to roll again.. finally.

Also took out my spacers on my steering arms, used to have bolts and I went back to studs.

Proof it moved. :smokin:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t51/drummondj/4X4/IMG_20100925_160538.jpg
Next time i will bring more :beer:

brandon,

how far to the pass is your motor?

About two inches offset.

what is your belly pan (bottom of frame rail) at?
Where is the top of the motor mount bracket level with at the frame? Meaning, where is the flat surface of the two mounting bolts in relation to the frame? Just trying to get an idea on how far in the frame rails the motor should sit?

what did you use for a radiato and steering box?

I really need to update this thread..

Anyway, radiator is from speedway motors but I think summit sells the same one. Very impressed with it, works great.

I don't see the ford one right now but like this, bout $100
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Chevy-Universal-Radiators,3557.html

Steering box is from a wagoneer, standard sag box
http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80ss/2008_oct27_canon_010.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80ss/2008_oct27_canon_009.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80ss/2008_oct27_canon_012.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80ss/2008_oct16_canon_001sm.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80ss/2008_Aug05_040.sized.jpg

I haven't posted in ages so probably missed a lot - redid the engine cradle for max clearance (flanged it for removal), put in shock hoops in the rear, added tcase support for rear case (no more broken adapters I hope!!).

Oh, and I wheeled :) Took my Scout (son) in the Scout up on the trail. Just went and camped at Wentworth and looped around to Loon but had fun..

A few pics..

tcase support
http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/IMG_20110515_103830.sized.jpg


The Trail from Airport to Wentworth, not too exciting but a nice river crossing..
http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/S80_rubicon7_11/IMG_20110708_133022_001.sized.jpg

This section has to have a name, this entrance was so quiet - I didn't see one vehicle until I got to the "Y" and then I saw a billion of them..

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/S80_rubicon7_11/IMG_20110709_090732_002.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/S80_rubicon7_11/IMG_20110709_174453_001.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/S80_rubicon7_11/IMG_20110709_174854_001.sized.jpg

and my two Scouts..
http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/S80_rubicon7_11/IMG_20110709_092720_001.sized.jpg

Gotta re-route the brake cables, smashed one but it still works :) Other than that no issues..

:smokin:

Still need to come over and check out your traction bar. This time I will bring :beer:

Good update, glad to see the Scout out on the trail :D

The top is sweet, good to see it working on the trail.

Nice build!

Took it up to the rubicon last weekend, I need to extend the bump stops and/or lift it more, front driveshaft hits the auto tranny "bellhousing" and I have allready ground it down as far as I want to.

No real exciting pictures to show..

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/Rubicon_1_7_2012/P1070156_001.jpg

Standing on Spider was a first though

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/Rubicon_1_7_2012/P1070165.jpg

got ice?

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/Rubicon_1_7_2012/329570_297123903666560_100001068577843_866550_1009 690108_o.sized.jpg

Hey I'm just gonna throw this out here because I'm new to this and I'm not sure how to go about it. I just inherited my great uncle's Scout 80. He used to take me coon hunting in it and his family said he would want me to have it. It's been sitting unprotected since 1975 and it's in pretty rough shape. It's all there though and that I'm glad about. First thing I need to know is the year model. Serial # FC 15188. Any help would be greatly appreciated and it would be a God send to find somebody around North Central Texas that might want to earn some $$ by helping me with this project. Thanks in advance. Ray.

Hey I'm just gonna throw this out here because I'm new to this and I'm not sure how to go about it. I just inherited my great uncle's Scout 80. He used to take me coon hunting in it and his family said he would want me to have it. It's been sitting unprotected since 1975 and it's in pretty rough shape. It's all there though and that I'm glad about. First thing I need to know is the year model. Serial # FC 15188. Any help would be greatly appreciated and it would be a God send to find somebody around North Central Texas that might want to earn some $$ by helping me with this project. Thanks in advance. Ray.


Try binderplanet.com before you get flamed...... other than that, post some pictures so we can see what it is.

Im just curious why you chose this thread to ask your question :confused:. Like said before, go here Binder Planet (http://www.binderplanet.com/) and look under Roy Ireland I believe, he keeps a whole thread going of ID numbers.

Hey I'm just gonna throw this out here because I'm new to this and I'm not sure how to go about it. Thanks in advance. Ray.

Well, Brandon's build thread isn't the place. For basic newbie stock scout info, head over to Binder Planet.

http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/index.php

If you are closer to DFW, try North Texas Binders: http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=105

San Antonio: Hill Country Binders: http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=90

Good luck with your Scout, start your own build thread if you think it's worthy.

used some scrap to build a skid plate to cover up the tranny and the two pans. Also picked up a spare axle shaft at the PnP, check out the cool find..

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/IMG_20120204_141227_001.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/IMG_20120129_173439.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80axles_drivetrain/IMG_20120203_162919.sized.jpg

I threw on front waggy 44044's in place of the stockers waggy's and put in a rear add a leaf to bring it back up about 2".

Like the skid plate. Good job. :)

Looks good Brandon

before.. http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80_bodywork/IMG_20120210_214230.sized.jpg

hopefully after isn't a picture of a crater where my rig was, probably should just pull the gas tank to be safe. Famous last words..

Make sure to put the beer in safe distance first. Those Bigfoots are hard to come by :beer:. Anyways, I might steal your idea so keep us posted.

Make sure to put the beer in safe distance first. Those Bigfoots are hard to come by :beer:. Anyways, I might steal your idea so keep us posted.

built the "outriggers" but didn't get them on, got all 4 built but will get em on eventually. Trying to find some sort of rubber or bushing that is the same thickness as my body mount bushings before I set the height and weld em on.

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/albums/scout80_bodywork/IMG_20120211_180421.sized.jpg