: Do you carry a Spare?


0ILBURNER
02-14-2002, 02:13 PM
Hey guys, Everybody knows how much of a pain it is to carry a spare tire. Who all is carrying one on their trail runs?

Rockrat
02-14-2002, 02:17 PM
Club rules you want to ride full size spare required:smokin: :D

squirrelman83
02-14-2002, 02:21 PM
I've got a matching spare (just happened to get find it behind the local 4x4 shop and he said I could have it)! :D I just think it is better to have your own rather than relying on someone else's. Plus, most of our trail runs are a long way from home (all trails at least 1 hour away, most 2.5+ hours). ~Steve

0ILBURNER
02-14-2002, 02:46 PM
STOP "VIEWING" & START VOTING! :D :flipoff2:

CSR
02-14-2002, 02:47 PM
I still have my little 30x9.50 on a reversed stock wheel for a spare. I guess I need a bigger spare tire, but I've never needed it so.....

I Am running Goodyears now instead of Swampers. So, yeah, I may need that fullsize spare!

dangerber
02-14-2002, 02:49 PM
Kinda...I always have one back at camp. I will carry one if it is required for the run. But then again, that was with my rooomy 4runner, things may change with a sammi! :D

ROCKILLER
02-14-2002, 03:12 PM
I used to on my fullsize but I run beadlocks on my sami and I always have my plugs and some air. maybe one day I'll get off my a$$ and build a mount.

zukstur
02-14-2002, 03:25 PM
I use to carry one but what a pain. now i just carry plugs , starting fluid and on board air. O ya duct tape.:D

grimbo
02-14-2002, 03:27 PM
I carry a 31" until I can get my hands on a 16" rim for my full size 34" spare

Azrckcrawler
02-14-2002, 05:40 PM
I didn't carry a spare with my SX's. Basically didn't like all that weight on the back and my Zuk seems to climb better without it back there. Now that I got some claws I am going to get my 33 x 9.50 back and put it on a toy rim and keep it in my tow rig. Eventually when I tube the rear I will most likeley run with it. I think I'll try and find an aluminum rim for the spare, that'll shave some weight of (my SX w/ steel rim was 85lbs).

CSR
02-14-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
Now that I got some claws I am going to get my 33 x 9.50 back

Are you talking about the borrowed Claws or did you buy a set?

jp008
02-14-2002, 06:41 PM
I always carry a spare. Granted it's not a 33 GY MT/R but it will get me out of a trail when needed. My spare is a 235/75-15, and I run the GY 33's. I guess I'll have to put it on the front if I get a flat in the back, the locker won't like the smaller tire very much.



Edit: I voted Tim :D

DannyL
02-14-2002, 08:34 PM
Spare what?

fatkid
02-14-2002, 11:29 PM
Always have a spare, not to mention a plug kit. Don't be that guy, I also keep a second spare for the Zuk at the tow rig...:)

Azrckcrawler
02-15-2002, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by CSR


Are you talking about the borrowed Claws or did you buy a set?

Oops, let that one slip. Yeah, turns out Mark had some 37" Claws and rims waiting for his rig, so these were going to sit in the corner. I made him an offer and we mounted them on my rims last night :smokin: I even got some new sidewalls to abuse, we flipped all the tires around so now them look new :D

Azrckcrawler
02-15-2002, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by mickfatty
Always have a spare, not to mention a plug kit. Don't be that guy, I also keep a second spare for the Zuk at the tow rig...:)

Oh yeah, when I dumped my spare I bought a ton of plugs.

TNToy
02-15-2002, 07:57 AM
Chris V - are you talking about the 37" Mickeys that he was running? I know you didn't talk him out of those sticky mickeys, did ya? Were these regular compound ones he had waiting around for someone else?

CSR - If I ever meet up with you again, I've got four old buckshots that have been lying around forever that are 33" tall with lots of tread. I think I may start pawning them off on people as spares, if I end up too tall to stick with 33s after the axle swap.

0ILBURNER
02-15-2002, 08:42 AM
Hmmm......

MANY more folks not carrying a spare tire with them than I thought there would be. :(

Question: If you were on a ride consisting of several rigs, and you slashed a tire to the point that it is un-patchable, you'd have to get someone to lend you a spare or take you back to civilization (or your tow vehicle) to effect repairs. If you had someone in your truck with you, one could stay with your rig while the other heads back. If you're riding without a passenger, then what?

I was just wondering what the contingency plan is for those who don't carry a spare? :confused:
I have to tow my rig a L-O-N-G ways to get to the cool stuff - I don't wanna be the guy to have to take you back...

Or is there a rule that if another guy in the group doesn't have a spare, then HE has top take you back? :D

Root Moose
02-15-2002, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Hmmm......

MANY more folks not carrying a spare tire with them than I thought there would be. :(

Question: If you were on a ride consisting of several rigs, and you slashed a tire to the point that it is un-patchable, you'd have to get someone to lend you a spare or take you back to civilization (or your tow vehicle) to effect repairs. If you had someone in your truck with you, one could stay with your rig while the other heads back. If you're riding without a passenger, then what?

I was just wondering what the contingency plan is for those who don't carry a spare? :confused:
I have to tow my rig a L-O-N-G ways to get to the cool stuff - I don't wanna be the guy to have to take you back...

Or is there a rule that if another guy in the group doesn't have a spare, then HE has top take you back? :D

I think what you are getting at is this: Is proper trail ettiquette to bring a spare?

It's almost like when winches weren't as common on a rig as they are now - before they became "standard equipment"; the guy that had the winch kind of wished he didn't have one either by the end of the day becasue he spent the whole day winching instead of driving. :)

I always carry a spare - don't want to be tempting fate. I'm the guy that always gets kicked in the nutz when he gets careless or takes a chance on the equipment. :)

Once I get my mini tent trailer going I'll have full size tires the same as the truck on it and a spare on it as well. Potential for two spares for the truck if the worst should happen.

r@m

Azrckcrawler
02-15-2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Yota_san
Chris V - are you talking about the 37" Mickeys that he was running? I know you didn't talk him out of those sticky mickeys, did ya? Were these regular compound ones he had waiting around for someone else?

CSR - If I ever meet up with you again, I've got four old buckshots that have been lying around forever that are 33" tall with lots of tread. I think I may start pawning them off on people as spares, if I end up too tall to stick with 33s after the axle swap.

I bought the ones he loanded me for the test. 37's on a stock wheelbase Zuk would be a little too hillbilly looking:D

Azrckcrawler
02-15-2002, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Hmmm......

MANY more folks not carrying a spare tire with them than I thought there would be. :(

Question: If you were on a ride consisting of several rigs, and you slashed a tire to the point that it is un-patchable, you'd have to get someone to lend you a spare or take you back to civilization (or your tow vehicle) to effect repairs. If you had someone in your truck with you, one could stay with your rig while the other heads back. If you're riding without a passenger, then what?

I was just wondering what the contingency plan is for those who don't carry a spare? :confused:
I have to tow my rig a L-O-N-G ways to get to the cool stuff - I don't wanna be the guy to have to take you back...

Or is there a rule that if another guy in the group doesn't have a spare, then HE has top take you back? :D

Personally if you have a near indestructable tire I don't think it's required. If your tires are known to get ripped up (like BFG's) then it's smart to have a spare. But why stop at spares, shouldn't we turn people away if they don't have spare axles/tools and supplies to change the axles? Not only do you have to drive them back to the tow rig but then in to town to find an axle. How many of you carry a spare alternator/battery or other critical component? This is a good question Tim, I guess down here we just band together and find a way to get everyone home, but then agan I wheel with above average four wheelers and trust their judgment when it comes to what the carry on the trail. Regardless, if you go to the Con or some other remote trail, definately toss a spare onboard no matter what. I'll have mine in there when we hit Moab:D

0ILBURNER
02-15-2002, 09:39 AM
Like Chris said, if you run meaty tires & carry plugs, Etc. the odds are rather slim that you couldn't at least limp out w/ a bad tire. And I think it is universal (particularly w/ the Samurai crowd) that no one wants to leave someone stranded.
I was more wondering what the game plan was for those who don't carry a spare tire. There always seems to be some dumbass showing up with a rig that isn't prepared, and he becomes a liability instead of a wheeling buddy. I'm Sure everyone has their stories about this situation!

If you're wheeling with a familiar crew/buddies often where it wouldn't be a big deal to take you back, that situation is a Lot different than someone towing 8 hours or more to wheel with a bunch he's never previously met. I personally am accused of carrying too much $hit on my rig, and sure, usually I don't need any of it, but you just Never Know....:D

dangerber
02-15-2002, 09:58 AM
The only time I don't carry my spare with me is when we are wheeling in an area where it is quick and easy to get back to camp. When I wheel with my club on our private land, there are several "bail out" points that go back to camp. If I'm at a trailride where I may not be able to get to my spare, it comes with. I think I'll have a spare with me at all times with the zuk, cause I think I may feel the need to "get it" a bit more now! :D

Azrckcrawler
02-15-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Like Chris said, if you run meaty tires & carry plugs, Etc. the odds are rather slim that you couldn't at least limp out w/ a bad tire. And I think it is universal (particularly w/ the Samurai crowd) that no one wants to leave someone stranded.
I was more wondering what the game plan was for those who don't carry a spare tire. There always seems to be some dumbass showing up with a rig that isn't prepared, and he becomes a liability instead of a wheeling buddy. I'm Sure everyone has their stories about this situation!

If you're wheeling with a familiar crew/buddies often where it wouldn't be a big deal to take you back, that situation is a Lot different than someone towing 8 hours or more to wheel with a bunch he's never previously met. I personally am accused of carrying too much $hit on my rig, and sure, usually I don't need any of it, but you just Never Know....:D

My pictures scare most of the dumbasses away :laughing: My game plan is plugs/patches, more plugs, duct tape, swear, limp out. Now that I don't run SX's you have me spooked :eek:

TNToy
02-15-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Azrckcrawler
My game plan is plugs/patches, more plugs, duct tape, swear, limp out. Now that I don't run SX's you have me spooked :eek: Don't forget bailing wire. It helps to sew up a really bad gash in the sidewall that would otherwise flex too much for the tape to stick.

I hear you on the unprepared guy ruining the ride. Two weeks ago we had a guy show up whose ignition coil died, and we had to sit there for 3 hours til a buddy could bring one in on an ATV.

scwafish
02-15-2002, 09:30 PM
I have a spare for the rig, but its not full size. I'm using a 33x9.50 bfg on a skinny little wheel. Its the wheelin equivalent of a space saver. I figured the 33 at full presssure would be close enough to the rest of the 35s aired down. Pretty lame, but it beats walking.

zukstur
02-16-2002, 03:54 PM
I have a spare at my tow rig for the next days run, but i carry plugs duct tape and a tire tube. I can stuff the tube under my seat. For the guys that dont want to carry a spare because of weight take a tire tube along. Duct tape the large cut put in the tube. :D

Azrckcrawler
02-16-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Yota_san
Don't forget bailing wire. It helps to sew up a really bad gash in the sidewall that would otherwise flex too much for the tape to stick.

I hear you on the unprepared guy ruining the ride. Two weeks ago we had a guy show up whose ignition coil died, and we had to sit there for 3 hours til a buddy could bring one in on an ATV.

I carry a spare coil, plug wires, cap, rotor, brake line, rag joint (for others), t-case mounts, metal for welding, too much to list really.

Zukster
02-17-2002, 10:30 AM
I Carry 2. One is left on the trailer though. Ever since Christmas Day '93 when I tore the sidewall out of 2 Swamper TSL's, I've carried 2 spares.

zukikid
02-17-2002, 06:13 PM
i usally carry a spare starter...a spare tire (fullsize)spare coil...spare alt...hand tools to take a part any thing on a zuk...break fluid...tow strap...four way tire iron...spark plugs...carb cleaner...pb blaster..com a long...gear oil enuff for a full change over...enigne oil for a full change over.oh yeah...spare u joints.
i would hate to hold people up on the trail for to long ...hell after today i am thinking about carrying a spare mirror....i keep going though them one way or another
zukikid

TNToy
02-17-2002, 06:32 PM
Well, I'll be carrying one when I go up to the 36" TSLs I just bought. It's narrower (Q78) but it's the right diameter.

Bill4rest
02-17-2002, 06:53 PM
Now that I'm back in CA. and "IF" I ever get my zuk running again, I'll keep it at the tow rig. I don't think I'd like to carry a 35" tire all around... too much wieght for me. Plugs/patches/bailing wire should be fine till I get back to camp.

zukin
02-18-2002, 07:26 PM
I got tired of my wife whining about being cheap about tires....
I bought 5 new tires and a new rim for the spare.
There only 31X10.50X15's but I love them alot more then the crappy thornbirds I had!
Anyway... a friend always comments that I am putting my poor little motor through un-needed stess by carrying that spare.
Oh well!:flipoff2:

mudlite
02-19-2002, 06:00 AM
Hell NO!!!!!!!
Anyone wanna carry a 38 for me? Didn't think so. If we are doing trails that don't have roll over potential, I carry a 33 ontop.

But I sure ain't carrying a 38 up there:flipoff2:

izooki13
02-20-2002, 10:17 PM
after my plans on running 33's with almost stock axles, im deciding on carrying spare axles underneath the zuk. as far as anything else goes, ive got 2 battaries on-board, required tools, and the spare tire mount is built into the roll cage.