Some questions about receivers for the Romy Gs:

I have been leaning towards an 80% mostly because I like the idea of doing as much of this myself as I can, and I also don't mind avoiding the FFL fee.

Looking at the pre-bent receivers, none of them have any dimples. One retailer, referring to the large dimples for the magazine, said they weren't needed since the lower rails have a magazine alignment on them. Does that make sense to you guys? I've found some fairly easy methods for forming the ramp at the magazine slot and it doesn't look like the crows feet and the one at the safety selector are that critical. What are your opinions?

Second option is to buy a flat that has all the holes and dimples. Problem is I don't have the tooling to bend them. I have access to a press, just not the rest of it. Reading on Pookie's website, he says they can be folded on one of the sheet metal brakes from Harbor Freight. Has anybody seen it done? What did you think of the end product?

This is long winded, thanks for your input.

RD


I make my own receivers from a blank piece of 4130 so anything is possible.

Yes people do use a press break to fold a flat
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6596881&postcount=1281

I have the jig and die for doing flats, and I let folks borrow it. Someone here has it now.

I found the answer to my main question over on the Gunco forums. Seems that the magwell dimples are unnecessary if you get the OEM style rails that have the stabilizers on them. That said, several people on that forum have had good experience with Cold Steel. I'm going to email them tonight and see what they have in stock or reasonable wait time.

RD

These guys say they have the magwell dimples - and their 80%'s look pretty darned good. Anyone ever use one?

http://www.coldsteelsolutionsincorporated.com/css,_inc.htm

a guy I know ordered about $500 worth of 80% stuff from there...took like 5-6 MONTHS to get it all, came in several shipments...

Don't know about making your own but you could always get a snap cap, if you don't feel safe enough with the firing pin out.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SNAP762-55691-1162.html

Only reason I skipped mentioning the gunsgutsgod (ggg) guy is - I emailed him about a month+ ago and never heard anything back. Not sure what his dealio is at this point. Looks like he makes some super nice stuff - but not sure he's actually making anything right now. I think I may try the coldsteelsolutions place out.

Also - Anyone know if they ever made a VEPR style stock for the AK? I LOVE this stock and pistol grip - and am having a very hard time finding any aftermarket stocks I really like..

http://tinypic.com/k1cr37.jpg

I too am struggling in looking for a stock I like. Being in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia, I have very limited choices to stay legal. Basically, no folding stock. I can have a pistol grip, but then I have to fix mount the magazine :rolleyes: Ideally, a thumb through stock will enable me to have a pistol "style" grip and still have exchangeable magazines. Any help any body know of is greatly appreciated!

Ideally, a thumb through stock will enable me to have a pistol "style" grip and still have exchangeable magazines. Any help any body know of is greatly appreciated!

An SVD type stock.

http://www.globaltrades.com/ak_stocks.html

Cool link, thanks. Can anyone clarify for me that I am right about the CA law thing? Really, I dont want a thumb through but I do want removable mags...

If you plan on doing more then one rifle consider buying bulk.
http://www.fastener-express.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=220
I have some 1/2" long 8x32 and 10x32.
I use the cutoff on the Dremel to get them to length. Thread a nut on, cut, couple seconds with a swiss file and its gtg.

Reality is I might do 2-4 rifles total. :shrug: Jsut overkill for me to order those kind of numbers.

He is very difficult to get hold of. I did get an email from him last Tuesday. Replied to his email and haven't heard back again. He said he had all the stuff in stock but did not know when he could ship again (estimated about 3 days to 2 weeks) 'cause he had cut down a tree and had to get it cut up :D

I ordered a couple of kits and the Paypal shopping cart was a bit funky so I'm not totally sure that the order went through. The kits come with the wire for holding the pivot pins. If you want the other type of clips and/or the center support you will have to email him to tell him that - I never saw anyplace to put that info in the shopping cart.

I had the best luck using the fxrfkr@screwkit.net email address. He didn't respond to an email I sent to the yahoo address.

Cool, thanks. I emailed him at every address I could find (3 total I think) I am glad to here he is still around, and I am in no hurry. I paypalled him and it is jsut sitting out there undeclared :laughing:

I hear you on the bulk screws but I will probably only do two guns and couldn't think of any other use for the screws. What swayed me most of all was the taps that he offers. I couldn't find any local places that could touch his price and any mailorder places wanted more than that for shipping. Figured as long as I'm getting taps, might as well get the screws too. Then he throws in the e-clips, center support and a piece of wire for the pin retainer if you don't want to use clips.

I debated screws vs rivets for a while and decided for now that the screws will work out better. I'm folding my own receiver and figured that if at a later date I decide to change over to a 100% for resale or whatever, I don't have to do the demil over again. Might not make any sense at all, but thats my story. I can always go back and do rivets later if the screws don't work out.

He is definately offering a good package and folks over at ak.net have good things to say.

Word - I can understand that I guess - absolutely zero contact with someone buying stuff from you, even just a "hey, I got your order, I'll ship it whenever I feel like it" is just bad business.

I'll try to ease up off him a bit - sounds like a good guy.

He isn't a web geek like us, he actually does shit every day ;)

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dude that looks "odd" :laughing:

I think its the wood AK stock and the long as fuck FAL flash hider.

but I like it, its sorta a deranged Tuscan Raider rifle :flipoff2:

Better:D

well dont feel too proud :flipoff2:


im building 2 more as we speak :evil:


gunshow is may 19-20 at reliant. im going to be scouting for my romak3 parts.

and picking up a few thousand rounds :D

Sol,
is that the Tapco folder?
How do you like it?
I had heard a couple complaints about 'flimsyness'.

I wish I had more cash right now, it's all tied up in work on the truck, because I would love to pick up a couple of the Romak kits.

well tell me where you find them. i have seen them, but they are all sold out :(

Copes had them listed on their web site. There was a post just last week on AK files. But I don't have the $$ so I never followed up on the 'story'.

Sol,
is that the Tapco folder?
How do you like it?
I had heard a couple complaints about 'flimsyness'.


yes
I like it
it seems sturdy enough to me.

That last one is sweet!

I don't like the top one it's like it's made out of hard plastic. not the best grip material to me.

have you looked into the AK to AR grip adapter. It's about 6-7 dollars and then you can run almost any of the AR grips. That's what I'm doing. I've got a hogue ar-15 grip.

anybody used one of these grips?
http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/072700000/72700615/pix200499734.jpg



I just got one of those from Cheaper Than Dirt - and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm ordering 3 more for future builds. I like it a lot more than the saw style - may not fit all hand sizes and types well - but for me, it's damn near perfect.

I just got one of those from Cheaper Than Dirt - and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm ordering 3 more for future builds. I like it a lot more than the saw style - may not fit all hand sizes and types well - but for me, it's damn near perfect.

IMO, the Ergos are more comfortable. I know a few people who orderd the G27? or whatever thinking is was stippled soft rubber.....only to find out it's hard plastic. That's what they get for not reading....

I am interested in building a ak but where are you guys getting your parts kits from? Checked out copes but they don't have any ak's with folder stocks.

thanks,
mike

Thanks for the feedback, i ordered a roma kit today from copes.

ordered another kit today. Already have the receiver ready to go, so we'll see what happens when the kit gets here...

snagged a few VZ-58 mags for 10 bucks each too. That's kinda sparked my interest in building it again. When I got the kit, it came with one mag, and additional mags were next to impossible to find. Now I'm considering getting on the waiting list for a receiver and actually attempting to build the thing :D

I am subscribed to this post and have read all of it over the last 6 months.
My first build is going to be a Romo kit, but while I was researching Receivers, over the last few months. I saw somebody selling a drillied flat that was laser etched at the bend points, which made it look alot eaiser for a fist timmer with just a bench vise and some 1" and 1-1/4" key stock(very square stock).
Does anybody now who sells them?
Thanks

like i said if i wanted a full auto i would just appy and pay the tax stamp

Isn't a legal full-auto AK going to cost you many thousands?

Don't you need to intsall a transferable auto-sear or something?

So whats the going price on kits these days? I found a semi local fella (who also carries all the parts) that has rommies for 110.

So whats the going price on kits these days? I found a semi local fella (who also carries all the parts) that has rommies for 110.

Thats a fair price for a good to excellent condition, numbers matching kit. Look back a few pages in this thread - I listed all of the pieces that should have numbers. Copes has hand-picked kits with the US fire control group for $137 plus shipping.

I ordered some buffers from Copes so hopefully that will take care of it, otherwise I'm gonna have to try to add some material back to the rail. While I was at it, I ordered 2 more romi kits and a bunch of mags, you know...to save on shipping...:laughing:

So whats the going price on kits these days? I found a semi local fella (who also carries all the parts) that has rommies for 110.

its bad enough that the cars you work on almost kill you. why do you need something that could kill you easily now :confused:




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its bad enough that the cars you work on almost kill you. why do you need something that could kill you easily now :confused:




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It would be the second one fawktard. :flipoff2:


Plus it aint the cars, its the combo of the owners and engineers. :laughing:


I'm also a looking a FAL kit. :smokin:


edit, not to mention you work on one product line bitch.:flipoff2: I work on 5. :eek: You buying the first or second round in rockville?

whatever you want man. hope it is worth it. just hope i dont drink you under the table :evil:

whatever you want man. hope it is worth it. just hope i dont drink you under the table :evil:



No worries, I just get 'em started then hold back and laugh as they fall off their stool. :laughing:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/rsharpe08/AK%20build/done.jpg

Not a fan of silver myself, but that came out looking very nice

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/rsharpe08/AK%20build/done.jpg

I dig it. I think I would get tired of it pretty quickly though.

too bad their aint nuthin in it :flipoff2:

Parked not painted :shaking"

Are there any current sub $250 sources for Underfolders? All I can find are Copes and few other places with Polish UF for $250+.

Get a Romi kit, add an underfolder from DSA for another 80. Then a Bulgy underfolder flat from AKBuilder
Will mean fabbing the rear trunnion.

Aha! Thanks for the info. I didn't even look at the details :)

if you "post stamp" the center of your rivets with a small stamp with your logo/design you can hide imperfections AND add a labeling to your AKs :D


Wonder how hard it would be to make a small logo stamp? hmmm


Keith,
no problems :D

Pete

if you "post stamp" the center of your rivets with a small stamp with your logo/design you can hide imperfections AND add a labeling to your AKs :D







So do you think it'd be possible to stamp in an hex hole in the rivet after it's set, to give the "riveted, but looks like a screw build" effect?? :p


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you mean the "effect" of pissing of AK "purists" :laughing:

Wonder what "effect" mine would have on them... got the front trunion, trigger guard, and center support welded in, and the rear trunion screwed. :laughing:

Pondering building another since my wife was pissed when she found out I built this one without involving her, so I might have to build one with her--gotta decide if I'm actually painting AR parts pink first, though.

Yikes. Rereading that... there's so much wrong with this post, on so many levels... I can't even begin to make it right. :laughing:

Wasn't included in the parts.
I still need to make one up on the lathe :D

A lathe!?!?!? I make mine by cutting the head and threads off a 1/4" bolt :D

A lathe!?!?!? I make mine by cutting the head and threads off a 1/4" bolt :D

I use the lather for the tapping. I have a bunch of plain rod for the piece itself :D

ak-builder.com



Made an order tonight. Thanks.

I use the lather for the tapping. I have a bunch of plain rod for the piece itself :D


I use rod, and it's worked just fine.


and I'm kinda liking the flash hider on the end of that last build... might have to consider one like it for my next build....

im still voting on marsh hawk arms. i was very happy with his 100% recievers and romy's from him are 130 shipped right now.

im still voting on marsh hawk arms. i was very happy with his 100% recievers and romy's from him are 130 shipped right now.



it's so much cheaper/funner to make your own receivers :D

DING DING!!! found a guy on gunbroker selling romy's for 110 shipped. not bad!


and dibs too! i emailed him asking how many kits he had :evil:


i would make them if they wernt such a pain in the ass. i liked my 100% cause ill i had to do was assemble it and shoot it. plus it was a perfect fit.

DING DING!!! found a guy on gunbroker selling romy's for 110 shipped. not bad!


and dibs too! i emailed him asking how many kits he had :evil:


i would make them if they wernt such a pain in the ass. i liked my 100% cause ill i had to do was assemble it and shoot it. plus it was a perfect fit.


all I've ever had to do was assemble and shoot. Bending, welding and heat-treating are just a few more fun step in the process.... :D

the heat treating and grinding just aint in my schedual. i mean, i wouldnt minde trying it and seeing how easy it is. maybe ill try it on my next one. fixin to get a "few" more :evil:

im still voting on marsh hawk arms. i was very happy with his 100% recievers and romy's from him are 130 shipped right now.

Aren't his receivers just NoDakSpuds?

Oh and ultimate in cheep is still my 1.50$ make it your from 4130 sheet

and I'm kinda liking the flash hider on the end of that last build... might have to consider one like it for my next build....

Customer provided, but they work very well.

I think you can get them from Copes or AK-Builder. I ordered a couple myself.

Nope, they are those out of spec, too long, selector hole too low, and spot hardened junk Ohio Ordnance Works receivers. Except for the Yugo and Polish underfolder ones, those are Nodak/DCI.

really? i got the yugo underfolder receiver. it was bueno? no problems.

ok definition of a nodack/dci nospudwhateverthefuck?

really? i got the yugo underfolder receiver. it was bueno? no problems.

ok definition of a nodack/dci nospudwhateverthefuck?

The Yugo is a NoDak.

I am thinking about contacting them and seeing if they give any sort of a dealer break. His quality is so good and it would save me so much time for my builds its probably worth it.

Pete

Send it to me along with your CC number ;)

BLARGH!!!

I'm never gonna get this thing done!

maybee i'll ship you everything i got and just have you assemble it all.

Nope, they are those out of spec, too long, selector hole too low, and spot hardened junk Ohio Ordnance Works receivers.

I have three builds on Ohio Ordnance receivers and all were pretty good just minor trim and fitting for the front trunion:confused: All three are pretty much tack drivers as far as AK's can be anyway:laughing:

And of the 5 OOW receivers used during my '06 build party, none had any serious issues.

The two we build into Romy folders worked fine except the irritating but minor gap at the selector. I've been playing around with a selector mod to cover the gap and add a tab below for trigger finger use. Clearance of the folder is an issue though.

We would have gone NDS but at the time they had yet to even prototype their underfolder version.

Its taken me a few weeks to read through all of this great info, just curious where I might find assembly instructions? I know its basic just never assembled one, plan on building a Romy for my first build.

If I wanted my builds to be that big of a pain in the ass I'd still be bending up my own flats.



I bend my own flats :D

well lemme get some from you, since im lazy and just wanna weld/assemble them :)

I make my own receivers from a plain piece of 4130.

well lemme get some from you, since im lazy and just wanna weld/assemble them :)


That might be possible... I plan on bending some in the very near future...

I make my own receivers from a plain piece of 4130.


How are you doing the x and y stampings, as well as the mag dimples?

I might have to get some 4130 blanks from you and give it a try...

Minor trim is the wrong answer, Nodak receivers are 98% of the time plug and play. OOW continues to ship a product that they know is out of spec and a pain in the ass to build on with no attempts to fix the issue.

On the two Nodak's I've built on both needed the upper rails trimmed down alot. I'm still gonna stay with them though, I've heard nothing but good about them and mixed reviews on almost everyone else's.

I've built a couple on NDS receivers and they were both fantabulous.

If you go back to post 350 and the few that follow, my photos of the bending jig are with my home made flats.

I can't believe I never posted how I made the flats.
I have two pieces of 1/2x6x12
I scribed the center line of each piece and then measured for the 1/8" locating pins and drilled the holes. These are the holes at each end of the flats and used by the locating pins in the bending jig.
On one of the plates I then laid out the center for each hole that needs to be drilled in the flat.
I pinned the two plates together and set the stop on my drill press to go through the top plate and just barely into the lower.
For the bump near the selector I drilled a large hole in the top plate and a small dimple in the lower.
For the mag bumps I hollowed out an area on the lower plate with the dremel and welded a short piece of rod to the under side of the top plate.
For the mag well ramp some more dremel work and a little welding.
I didn't worry about the X and Y.

For the metal, .050x6x12 is ~$1.50
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/4130sheet.php

Mark the center line of the sheet.
Layout, mark, and drill for the two 1/8" locater holes.
Place the pins in the bottom plate. Place the sheet over the pins.
Put on the top plate.
Place in the press and squeeze to make the mag dimples and mag well ramp.
Remove
Use a 1/4" pin punch and make the selector dimple.
Then drill all the holes.
Remove from the plates and bend.
Cut rails.
Drill holes to size.
Cut out mag well.

I only did this for myself and one other person...I believe a certain 9mm AK was build on one of these.

For customers I am using AK builder flats. But I am probably going to start using NDS now. The time involved is just not worth it.

I built a couple hundred uzis this way about 8-9 years ago...worked well...I made a hydraulic press into a setup to bend flats into receivers...cut a few holes and welded them up...worked very well for the then-available parts sets...

Minor trim is the wrong answer, Nodak receivers are 98% of the time plug and play. OOW continues to ship a product that they know is out of spec and a pain in the ass to build on with no attempts to fix the issue.

I here yea, but as Animator said it was fun, After my 1st AR build AR build are kida retarted LOL

Still fun but in a LEGO way:laughing:


AK build= Erector set

AR build= LEGO's:)

I just got two romanian parts kits in from AK-47s.com as well as a hungarian undefolder rear trunnion. Everything in great condition.

Also have a blem parts kit from Classic Arms on the way(woot $99) and my little brother got one as well... Apparently they have surface rust, hopefully nothing a little sand blasting can't take care of.

This thread is no longer in use for active posting. a cleaner more direct thread is now located here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638505

please place all new questions and answers there.

so close the thread :rolleyes:



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so close the thread :rolleyes:



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because people have THIS thread bookmarked on this and many other forums.
but ooooooooh nooooo you did not think of that did you? :flipoff2: