First of all I'll introduce myself... the names Phil, I've been lurking here for quite sometime and PBB is by far the best! I'm from Ontario, Canada, race motocross, ski, skate and off-road, I own a screeprinting company and work at my family book business so if anyones looking for books let me know... I've werked on bikes since I was 15 and have a pretty well set up shop. I'm no dummy but the Rovers are a little new to me.. I've fabbed my own steering rods, dampener relocation kit, spring spacers, winch bumper..blah blah blah So I'm always interested in DIY mods rather then forking out the coin or i should say pulling out the plastic.
Ok enuf Bs about me...

I have a 95 D1 with 2" RTE springs, 2" Body Lift, lockers and some other sheet(I know pretty wimpy so far but axles are on the way, and I'll be looking into shafts and gears soon as the wife turns her head :) )

OK OK heres my question/perdicament I can get some tires for a really good price (right now) but can't decide on the coices i have??? First off I'd rather not have to get wheel spacers..

Heres my choices
1) 32" X 8.5"tread width and 8.8" CS - A little narrow looking for me, but I imagine little or no steering rub.
2) 32" X 9.0" tread width and 11.93 CS -Steering rub? A little steering rubs fine with me.
3) 33.5" X 10.2" tread width and 12.3" CS -I'm assuming these might have some serious rubbing problems when steering, but this is the size I'd like..

Anyhow I know you guys hate the old what size tire question, but I had to ask.. I was booted from dweb for arguing with some kyle guy about how a body lift adds clearance and he disagreed..Those guys say they wheel but all the pics show little or no body damage so i have my doubts.

flame away if you must... :D

PS You guys have me searching yards for Toy parts now... I have a feeling there is no turning back for me.. I'm even trying to get some prices on portals from my buddy in Malaysia.. if i could only talk the wife into pawning her wedding ring for portals...
PEACE!

what do you use the truck for?

-ben

Anyhow I know you guys hate the old what size tire question, but I had to ask.. I was booted from dweb for arguing with some kyle guy about how a body lift adds clearance and he disagreed..Those guys say they wheel but all the pics show little or no body damage so i have my doubts.
Ha Ha, don't even get me started! Kyle is never wrong!

its sorta 50/50 on and off road. I live in the country and have some serious tight, and swampy trails around me... I'm pretty hard on my truck and have some serious problems getting hung up in certain areas... always having to winch my ass through the tricky parts.. and I consider myself to be a very capable driver, I can pick a good line like Tony Montana...

Anybody who was booted from dweb for arguing with Kyle is OK in my book.

With 2" springs and 2" b-lift, go with 255/85-16's - those are roughly 33x9.5. With a little sawzall on the rear wheel arch, they'll fit nice. With LR steel wheels, they don't rub on the radius arms hardly at all.

If you drive that combo hard in good traction situations, you'll break the crap out of the drivetrain if you run lockers. Get HD axles and prepare to do something about the front CV's.

Ha Ha, don't even get me started! Kyle is never wrong!

lol... I told him that if he's correct (he said the BL won't help with clearance) then it must be an illusion that the fenders are further from my tires after the BL.. He then continued to ask me what i did about the steering and hi/lo shifter , I told him he should check out rovertyms website and stop buying fancy knives and fire extinguishers from EE..

Welcome newbie! And thanks for the quote-worthy material :D

Anybody who was booted from dweb for arguing with Kyle is OK in my book.

With 2" springs and 2" b-lift, go with 255/85-16's - those are roughly 33x9.5. With a little sawzall on the rear wheel arch, they'll fit nice. With LR steel wheels, they don't rub on the radius arms hardly at all.

If you drive that combo hard in good traction situations, you'll break the crap out of the drivetrain if you run lockers. Get HD axles and prepare to do something about the front CV's.


I figured I'd get some love here for being booted from dweb! lol

Problem is I can only get a deal on Super Swamper TSL's or the LTB's and they don't seem to have 33X9.5's? This is why I'm having so much trouble deciding..

The LR steelies your referring to are they the stock D1 spares? They seem to measure the same as the alloy (16X8)? I do have some steelies I might steal from my old mans Dormobile which i think are either 15X7 or 16's, can't recall. If they are 15's that will solve all my problems, as long as they are straight?

I also have 2 sets of spare alloys so the meats will go on for the trails and the At's for road...

I'll definatley be taking it easy till I get the HD axles, and upgrade my drivetrain. Although I shouldn't have problems in the mud. I also have a 2 spare parts D1's if I break anything... :D

lol... I told him that if he's correct (he said the BL won't help with clearance) then it must be an illusion that the fenders are further from my tires after the BL.. He then continued to ask me what i did about the steering and hi/lo shifter , I told him he should check out rovertyms website and stop buying fancy knives and fire extinguishers from EE..
You are my new best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad you guys have enjoyed my post! :D In the future I'll remember if i ever get flamed here I'll just mention I hate Kyle...

Been in the ring with Kyle on the BL...same reasoning I had: "As long as the tires are further away than the tires for 235$ and no negativity in the drivetrain, that's cool with me".

Swampers have the "Narrow S.S." a.k.a. Pizza Cutter sizes in 33.8x9.1 in 16" flavor that are REALLY deep...

I'd go for the biggest tire possible and cut whenever possible...hey, its better to cut it off rather than reshape the whole fender back in place because that nitty bitty inch of aluminium hit something on the trail...

D1 steel spares are 16x7 (at least they are down here) perfect for a 235x85 which are 33.5" tall and about 10" across the sidewalls. with 2" spring and 2" body lift any trimming would be minor if required at all. Ditto what others have said about lockers and axles.
As for Kyle, he just doesnt get body lifts, or big tyres, or serious cutting, toy axles conversions, portals.............

Come join the skinny tire club...

Oh, and Kyle's a c**k b**e. You're okay in my book.

D1 steel spares are 16x7 (at least they are down here) perfect for a 235x85 which are 33.5" tall and about 10" across the sidewalls.


What brand 235/85's are that big ?? You mean 255/85 ?
Every 235/85 I've ever measured is a lot closer to 32" then 33...

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The so-called 'Wolf' steel wheels have (I think) less backspacing then stock Disco alloys. I rub my 235/85-16 snow tires on factory alloys at full lock - my MT's on Wolf's don't rub and they're bigger.

Been in the ring with Kyle on the BL...same reasoning I had: "As long as the tires are further away than the tires for 235$ and no negativity in the drivetrain, that's cool with me".

Swampers have the "Narrow S.S." a.k.a. Pizza Cutter sizes in 33.8x9.1 in 16" flavor that are REALLY deep...

I'd go for the biggest tire possible and cut whenever possible...hey, its better to cut it off rather than reshape the whole fender back in place because that nitty bitty inch of aluminium hit something on the trail...

hmm! before suggesting anyone use the narrow ss, ya better see what TomW has to say. when he owned my disco, he carved out teh wheel arches for these, and found they were too flexy as so thin. I am running them on the series III now with no issues though, just too much weight on the disco apparently for them? personally have not tried, and am curious, so will someday install them again and see.

Paul

Not firsthand knowledge, but I have it on pretty good authority that a lifted Disco with skinny tall tires gets REAL tipsy...

I know I get a little tipsy after a few tall ones.. :D


Checked out the steelies spares my dad had laying around and they turned out to be 16X6 rims which might work for me just hoping they will reduce steering rub?.. Or I'll stick with the stock alloys 16X7 haven't decided yet???

I'm down to checking out the following tires...

1)Narrow SS 9/34-16LT - 33.8"X8.0" tread width 9.1" CS - 2370lb max load.

2)LTB 33X13.50-16LT - 11.3" tread width - 12.6 CS - 2755lb max load

3)LTB 34X10.50-16LT - 9.25" tread width - 10.7 CS - 3195lb max load

4)Swampers TSL 33X12.50-16.5LT - 10.1" tread width - 12.2 CS - 2930lb max load

5) Swamper TSL 12-16.5 33.5" X9.0" - 11.93" CS - 3000lb max load.

Oh, and Kyle's a c**k b**e.

what's a "b**e"?

Bone?

Brie?

Bane? I like that. A cock bane.

I didn't think I was an innocent naif, but I guess I'm just not that hip anymore. Or maybe it's you..?

Have you considered Q78x16 TSL's? They will fit your rims, don't know about the fenders.

Real dimensions 9.8 TW, 10.5 CS and 35.5 dia if my memory serves med right.

I ran them on my D110 before I got hold of some Michelin 255x100-16's.

hmm! before suggesting anyone use the narrow ss, ya better see what TomW has to say. when he owned my disco, he carved out teh wheel arches for these, and found they were too flexy as so thin. I am running them on the series III now with no issues though, just too much weight on the disco apparently for them? personally have not tried, and am curious, so will someday install them again and see.

Paul

Yup, those were 9x35 Special service swampers, great traction, but they had alot of sidewall flex, more than I cared for ( and I'm nuts :goofball: as I'll drive pretty much anything ), but the Disco was definately a poster child for weight watchers at the time... I bought em for the series and they work excelent off road for that and fine on road ( noisy... but, hey its a series, if wasn't tire noise, gear noise is a close neighbor :)... these were on series steelies.
On another note I had a set of Michelin XCL's ( 235/85 or the metric equiv ) and they were fine on the Disco ( ya it had some flex, but not as much as the SSR's )
However these were mounted on stock 95 D1 alloys and were prolly only 32" as opposed to 34" for the ssr's ( mounted on I think narrower steelies )

I ultimately ran Radial Rover Mud Terrains ( or whatever there called ) in a 255/85 I think ( Paul ya still got em? ) which measured out at 33.5" on the rig...

I had to trim in front of and behind the rear wheels. I had to trim/nibble into the rear doors to get em to fit also, I Silicon sealed the door bottoms ( Paul, I'd check that out for a re-application of Silicon as its been a while and there might be a pool of water with tadpoles in your door :grinpimp: )

The radial rovers did not rub up front, although I prolly tweaked the bump stops a tad. I was running a self made custom suspension with 3" to 4" of lift

TomW

Yup, those were 9x35 Special service swampers, great traction, but they had alot of sidewall flex, more than I cared for ( and I'm nuts :goofball: as I'll drive pretty much anything ), but the Disco was definately a poster child for weight watchers at the time... I bought em for the series and they work excelent off road for that and fine on road ( noisy... but, hey its a series, if wasn't tire noise, gear noise is a close neighbor :)... these were on series steelies.
On another note I had a set of Michelin XCL's ( 235/85 or the metric equiv ) and they were fine on the Disco ( ya it had some flex, but not as much as the SSR's )
However these were mounted on stock 95 D1 alloys and were prolly only 32" as opposed to 34" for the ssr's ( mounted on I think narrower steelies )

I ultimately ran Radial Rover Mud Terrains ( or whatever there called ) in a 255/85 I think ( Paul ya still got em? ) which measured out at 33.5" on the rig...

I had to trim in front of and behind the rear wheels. I had to trim/nibble into the rear doors to get em to fit also, I Silicon sealed the door bottoms ( Paul, I'd check that out for a re-application of Silicon as its been a while and there might be a pool of water with tadpoles in your door :grinpimp: )

The radial rovers did not rub up front, although I prolly tweaked the bump stops a tad. I was running a self made custom suspension with 3" to 4" of lift

TomW
Yeah! still got teh remains of the dunlop mt's they are on Elgie right now, as the disco is sporting the alloys/at's from your d-90 still...

funny how they didn't rub, but the 265-75-16 at's do! or at least one does...just never bothered to adjust that..

Paul

what's a "b**e"?

Bone?

Brie?

Bane? I like that. A cock bane.

I didn't think I was an innocent naif, but I guess I'm just not that hip anymore. Or maybe it's you..?
Bite, he's a cock bite. Oh, did I say that out load?

Not firsthand knowledge, but I have it on pretty good authority that a lifted Disco with skinny tall tires gets REAL tipsy...plus it looks :rainbow: it's just like pontiac says "wider is better" :flipoff2:

[QUOTE=Discosaurus]What brand 235/85's are that big ?? You mean 255/85 ?
Every 235/85 I've ever measured is a lot closer to 32" then 33...

oops, must engage brain BEFORE fingers, you are right of course they are 255x85x16. Must have been all the Kyle talk intimidating me into not suggesting anything bigger than what he uses, after all we could not know better (could we??)

Go steel wheels and reverse them to increase your track. you can gain 2" offset per wheel which means nothing scrubs on front arms etc, but you will need flares to cover them after you cut.

Kevin

hehe - I always liked the idea of those 9/34-16's.

But, IMO, all the Swampers suck on road (bad wear). Since we Flatlanders have to drive thousands of miles to get to any decent wheeling spot, I passed on the idea.

If you really want to do it right, go with the big Rovertyme springs (5" ??). With those and your body lift, you're minutes away from 35" nirvana. Look at Darkstar's rig - I've wheeled with it and it's BAD.

(Of course, it won't keep up with the Mog - ppffffttt :flipoff2: )

Those guys say they wheel but all the pics show little or no body damage so i have my doubts.


Nice! :D

what's a "b**e"?

Bone?

Brie?

Bane? I like that. A cock bane.

I didn't think I was an innocent naif, but I guess I'm just not that hip anymore. Or maybe it's you..?

bite

Well I am the one that does the banning and I dont see a single name here that I have banned. So find another way to look "Cool" boys... Thinking back the only thing I can find a few of you guilty of is being a moron and if I banned every single instance of that I would have a full time job doing so. In fact I would have to ban myself , in which case I would no longer be able to handle the moron influx and someone else would have to take over.

I think the one guys statement about no "body damage" meaning wee havnt been anywhere pretty much says it all... So where you been "saunders racing" (Aka "Discokings") ???

Now I get to use this cute little flip off guy for my one post on this bbs... :flipoff2:

AGRVR = Kevin Collins

You banned me and that's not why you suck.

You suck because you're a little bitch.

Well I am the one that does the banning and I dont see a single name here that I have banned.

"JVance"

I was banned soon after the "lounge" was formed...asked for an explanation, never received one. However, I'm willing to accept this was due to a computer error if you wish to deny responsibility.

lol , I am a little bitch eh ? Coming from you Kevin that is hillarious.... And no , I did not BAN you... Nor did I ban Die Lucas.... Perhaps you were prevented from using the BBS ?

Had to edit here to make things clear.

If I BAN you and you try to hit the site , you get a message that pretty much tells you why you were banned and there really is no way around it. You get no site at all. Is that what you got ?

Nor did I ban Die Lucas.... Perhaps you were prevented from using the BBS ?

Had to edit here to make things clear.

If I BAN you and you try to hit the site , you get a message that pretty much tells you why you were banned and there really is no way around it. You get no site at all. Is that what you got ?


I'm sorry...let me clarify. First, my member status was changed to "on probation," then a week later, I could no longer log in or post using my username. After inquiring as to why this occurred, and receiving no response, I decided to just leave...

This occurred to other members as well. Some of them created new log-in names and returned to vent their ire over what had happened...they were, in turn, ridiculed by the "Lounge" members for having done so, suggesting that those members were "banned."

So why was I *prevented* from using the BBS? Was my post-count too high, surpassing that of some whiney "Lounge Member?"

If I BAN you and you try to hit the site , you get a message that pretty much tells you why you were banned and there really is no way around it. You get no site at all. Is that what you got ?
change your ip.

Well Ax usually handles the BBS admin crap. As you know , I rarely care what gets posted. I will comment on it or argue with the person but its very rare that I delete it or prevent the person from using the BBS. If someone is on my nerves enough for me to do something I simply ban them at the server level and thats that. If they come back I ban thier whole range . It takes about 2 minutes and makes it nice and tidy. Keep in mind that there are three of us and therefore there are three different ways to get on an owners nerves. We dont argue with one another and we dont debate each others decisions. So if one of them bans you , or I ban you , there is very little to be done about it. (The web site sucks anyway right?) So yes , your mails more then likley went unanswered. I had nothing to do with the creation of "The Lounge" and made comment frequently on how lame it was and some of the actions of "The Lounge members" so I cant help ya with that debate..

Lately there seems to be a massive influx of morons (As I am sure is evident here when the site was down) and I WILL ban more then I have in the past just to keep it in check. I am not saying I am not an asshole , I am just trying to keep the facts straight......

1) I totally got nailed from dWeb for dissagreeing with Kyle about some stupid shit about suspensions. Then after we sent out an email to some board members introducing Red Rhino they started flaming us for that. The thread had like 300 posts and we received an addition 500+ hits to the site that month. Hmm...let's help promote the guy we banned. :flipoff2:

2) I run 9/34's on one of my Rangies and I love them! I have 5" of lift + 2" body and I am running them on steels that stick out a bit farther. I went out to some decent articulation spots where some guys with fat tires ended up maxing out due to damage and or rubbing. The 9/34's tucked in real nice and allow me maximum flex. With the long travel suspension I also found that in the mud they just dig down deep and find hard ground and dig. As far as the road, I use CounterAct instead of Equal [it's not affected by mositure] and up to 80mph there is little vibration just a lot of noise.

Hope this helps in some way...

So if one of them bans you , or I ban you , there is very little to be done about it. (The web site sucks anyway right?)

I didn't ask for anything to be done about it; I accepted that I stepped on somebody's toes...whose, I don't know. All I did was ask "why."

The website doesn't suck so much as it requires an endless effort to dispell the unfounded myths of the automotive-ignorant. You guys have that population in spades. I no longer own a Disco and my tech contributions are dubious, at best...so I guess not much is left to be done. :D

As for Jason here , he got banned because he is a moron. I did indeed BAN him at the site level a few times. I might have all of the bitching whining emails you sent still Jason ? Would you like me to post those to keep things in perspective ? Hows the "Stock market problems" going these days ? Jason holds the record for whining emails sent , I will give him that...

And what you did was spammed people. Not only there but from other sites as well and you caught shit for it from them right along with us.

I had some time so I thought I would expand a bit... :grinpimp:

1) I totally got nailed from dWeb for dissagreeing with Kyle about some stupid shit about suspensions. Some time after we sent out an email to some board members introducing Red Rhino they started flaming us for that [we appologized]. The thread had like 300 posts and we received an addition 500+ hits to the site that month. Hmm...let's help promote the guy we banned. Thanks guys, :flipoff2:

Not too mention that just because I wasn't featured in a groovy off-road movie like Hole in The Rock constantly blowing my ARB airlockers means all my trucks are shit, the Rangie, Hybrid 100" Defender and even the Outback Challenge Discovery we are building. Sounds to me like I have a smoking hot woman who loves Rovers, a fun Rover related business, and the backing to race in Australia, Malaysia and Africa and some people are just jealous. :flipoff2:

2) I run 9/34's on one of my Rangies and I love them! I have 5" of lift + 2" body and I am running them on steels that stick out a bit farther. I went out to some decent articulation spots where some guys with fat tires ended up maxing out due to damage and or rubbing. The 9/34's tucked in real nice and allow me maximum flex. With the long travel suspension I also found that in the mud they just dig down deep and find hard ground and dig. As far as the road, I use CounterAct instead of Equal [it's not affected by mositure] and up to 80mph there is little vibration just a lot of noise.

Hope this helps in some way...

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Blow Me!

Um,,,,,,yeah Jason,,,,,carry on.............

Um,,,,,,yeah Jason,,,,,carry on.............
That's cool, I've said my peace..

As for Jason here ...

Oh :mad: ...wait :confused: ...not me! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

:HIJACK:

Lucas!,

Have done a HEI refit yet, the pic of the Dizzy's and your name leads me to belive you have? DUI is sending us some samples to test on our Defender, Rangie and Disco and I was curious if you had any experience with the results? I know with the Hybrid HEI's I build we can increase plug gap which helps with fuel economy & bang not too mention the fact you can run a hose on it without skipping a beat. I am anxious to see the difference between the DUI and the Hybrid that I build. I am thinking at this point that's its only the fact that they computer calibrate them.

But hey, I'm a "moron." :flipoff2:

:HIJACK:

Lucas!,

Have done a HEI refit yet

Yeah, it's just the cheap bastard HEI ignition amplifier conversion. Simple, works great, triggers the ECU fine as well.

I tried a number of aftermarket ignition bits and failed. When I toasted the stock igntion amp, I decided to try a Pertronix Ignitor in place of the stock magnet/reluctor/pick-up. It sucked. Didn't trigger the ECU. Tried an MSD ignition box with both low and high-impedance coils...didn't trigger the ECU. Tried the ECU/tach adapter...didn't trigger the ECU. What good is spark if you have no fuel?

Anyway, I'm sure you can get away with increasing plug gap if your spark is markedly hotter. I'm using a stock-ish coil with my HEI ignition amplifer, so stock heat range and gap on the plug is what I'm running. I had bad luck with a hotter plug, but I've also got some fueling issues with my 3.5 engine and 3.9 EFI (too rich).

The DUI system sounds good, as long as it triggers the ECU reliably. Unfortunately, it's too much for me to spend when a $15 fix is working fine as is.

/hijack

No, Red Rhino, not a moron, just a spammer. But thanks for bringing us lurkers some tech to read :flipoff2: :rolleyes:

No, Red Rhino, not a moron, just a spammer. But thanks for bringing us lurkers some tech to read :flipoff2: :rolleyes:
you like reading "spam"? :rolleyes:

you like reading "spam"? :rolleyes:

The ingredients are interesting...

Running the risk of opening Pandoras box and without sounding bias, If I received email from anyone related to "Rovers" I would check it out and not consider it SPAM. As we found several people dissagreed, so we stopped.

:Waiting for Bluewater to fill my mailbox with blank emails with a subject of "Cool new parts for your Rover..." :)

Lucas, from what I gather you used an HEI with an external coil right? The DUI unit and the units I build have an internal coil do you have any experience with those? It's a really nice package you can eliminate all the Rover shit that dies on a regular basis and you have two wires, positive to ignition and tacho...check it out on our site http://www.get-rhino.com/offroadgear/ignitionsystems.htm

http://www.get-rhino.com/images/hybrid1.gif

http://www.get-rhino.com/images/hybrid2.gif

It's a really nice package you can eliminate all the Rover shit that dies on a regular basis and you have two wires, positive to ignition and tacho...

I already eliminated all of the Rover (LUCAS) shit...all it cost me was $15.

Have you used the DUI yet? Does it trigger the ECU (and well)? Some people have experienced problems with low-impedance coils and triggerring the ECU...since current follows the path of least resistance, some low-impedance coils draw too much current away from the ECU, attenuating the pulse the ECU needs for to trigger each injection event. I, however, never experienced this with the stock ignition amplifier and Mallory Pro-Master coil I was using, but others have documented problems.

I have not used the DUI unit, the samples should be arriving next week sometime. What you are saying makes sense to me I have not had any weird problems with the unit I make but that's not the DUI...

Do you know who else documented issues?

Do you know who else documented issues?

http://www.rangie.com/articles_topic.php?id=380&cat=6&subCat=30

That thing looks pretty damn big...you might have some issues with its clearance near the t-stat housing and such. If I remember correctly, its a pretty tight fit with the stock setup.

If I received email from anyone related to "Rovers" I would check it out and not consider it SPAM. As we found several people dissagreed, so we stopped.
:Waiting for Bluewater to fill my mailbox with blank emails with a subject of "Cool new parts for your Rover..." :)
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I wouldn't call it spam either. I personally like your website and the products you offer. How bout a free wading kit for my disco? :flipoff2: i'd must rather hear the tech you post about than the large amount of the "dweb is down" group that we saw.

:Waiting for Bluewater to fill my mailbox with blank emails with a subject of "Cool new parts for your Rover..." :)
I already did i emailed you asking about the 88 Range Rover you had for sale. marmotmountain11@bellsouth.net ;)

sachilles, my woman says the same damn thing every night... ;) As for clearance if you just pound it hard enough it'l go in. :) Seriously though, depending on what model rig you have there are a few adjustments but NOTHING major. We are working on different model testing to see what the variance is.

Bluewater, now I remember...I was all like "Ahhh....SPAM." :)

She must be tiny, you are a lucky man. :p
Just curious to see one in place...the few times I've had to pull the t-stat, the cap has needed to be removed so I could have any place to work and the rest of the dizzy didn't help matters.

FYI.. Dweb has been taking a beating over on the MuddyOval.com as well. Appears the Dweb is back up but no one really cares, so Kyle has gone out of his comfort zone to start fights in an effort to bring people over to his board.
He's really too dumb to argue with, and EE, well that's a just a joke in itself...the whole operation seems like about 5-10 guys that sit around and take turns telling JL how great he is...
Its too bad, cause Ho seems like a really good and smart guy..

Just curious to see one in place...the few times I've had to pull the t-stat, the cap has needed to be removed so I could have any place to work and the rest of the dizzy didn't help matters.

Ask and yea shall receive
www.enzemble.co.nz/solihl/Hose&Cap.jpg shows hose to cap clearance (very tight) and
www.enzemble.co.nz/solihl/HEIin.jpg shows the engine bay. Yes it is a very dirty disgusting looking, the leads were all over the place and too short after changing the ends to suit the HEI, new leads correctly routed make it look better now, but itis a good photo to show clearance issues.
This is also not a "rover" V8, it's a tall deck version made down under, a P76 which are 4.4 litre. Clearance was actually tighter than a rover, due to the taller deck height the intake fouls the distributer more. It does make the world of difference though in respect to power, starting, economy and WATER!!
I wrote a full tech piece on this conversion a year or so ago, can probably find a link if anyones interested

Kevin

Full tech article is here http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14921
Some familiar looking pic's shown earlier in this thread!
kevin

Well I am the one that does the banning and I dont see a single name here that I have banned. So find another way to look "Cool" boys... Thinking back the only thing I can find a few of you guilty of is being a moron and if I banned every single instance of that I would have a full time job doing so. In fact I would have to ban myself , in which case I would no longer be able to handle the moron influx and someone else would have to take over.

I think the one guys statement about no "body damage" meaning wee havnt been anywhere pretty much says it all... So where you been "saunders racing" (Aka "Discokings") ???

Now I get to use this cute little flip off guy for my one post on this bbs... :flipoff2:

Hey VanTassels nice to see you lurking the pbb board, theres lotsa useful information here, I think you'll find it quite useful... :D

I couldn't tell you if I was banned, or what?? but I was seriously affected emotionally by your attack on my bodylift and the fact I had given someone advice on them. This led to a few other posts and some razzing and ribbin that may have gotten under some skins, but next thing I knew we couldn't sign in. Problem solved after I signed up for a new account. I now try to refrain from leaving my seat and speaking out of line these days...I have learned my lesson.... :D I love dweb it was just some of the resistance I was getting there for what I wanted to do to my bent, bashed and abused disco, that drove me to this frenzie!! (you know)
..and yeah I know you've been all over the frickin world caravanning and where have I been right? I'm a poor broke ass bastard who can't afford to leave my province, but the trails around here don't let you in or out with out some sacrifice..its a little ritual around Ontario, home of the worlds most challenging terrain..

anyway I wish I had time for more fun and ribbin but i need to paint my spring spacers black so I don't look like a poser. or will i be more of a poser for painting them black to hide em??

anyhow, I hope we can never all get along I need to sharpen up my arguing skills at times
...and the tires I'll finnally go with are 33's :flipoff2: I don't mind hackin up my rig if needed its no show truck, heck the trees and rocks have already done half the work..

PEACE :grinpimp:

lol , I am a little bitch eh ? Coming from you Kevin that is hillarious.... And no , I did not BAN you... Nor did I ban Die Lucas.... Perhaps you were prevented from using the BBS ?

Had to edit here to make things clear.

If I BAN you and you try to hit the site , you get a message that pretty much tells you why you were banned and there really is no way around it. You get no site at all. Is that what you got ?

Coming from me huh? And yes you did, from the yahoo group before there was a bbs.
Talking to people gossiping about how someone you've never met did an "insurance job" on their truck makes you a little bitch.

Nice to see others were affected as much as I was. The anger that festered as a result of dWeb insults drove me to do all kinds of crazy thinks like build HEI's and order drop boxes from France for my 100" Hybrid... In the end, I truly think I am better off. Although, that Hybrid will have a body lift on it so it couldn't possibly be cool. :grinpimp:

Maybe you can cruise down to FL and we can install a groovy HEI and drop boxes on your rig...Red Rhino would give you a real nice price. :D

Damnit, and I swore I was done blabbing...

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Blow Me! :flipoff2:

lmao

"Blow Me" ...thats funny

Our plan is to work with Steve to build this (d100 hybrid) into a functional show vehicle for Red Rhino Products.

So the guys at D-weeb werent hard core enough so you decided to pay some guy to build you a show truck? :rolleyes:

Now wait a Damn minute here!!! We've gone from Bash "DWEB" EE and Tassel to DUI igniton without myself getting the chance to do any bashing!... Too much working I guess and Not causing trouble on pointless uneducated arguments on the worlds "Highest Tech" LR site www.discoweb.org
Wanna try something different then 235/85-16's? You are an idiot!!!!
Wait I have 35's on my Disco..... Nadim is the Devil on 36's (goin' to 37's next year Nadim :))
Sorry Kyle but we are among people here on Pirate that, while our thoughts might differ from each other we pretty much respect their opinions and want to see in the end what comes of their perhaps "crazy ideas" ... Not like your pompus POS attitude on dweb... Now I suspect that you should prompty go away because you know nothing about innovation and in two short pages and a couple of your sad posts folks have already forgotten about your sorry ass and moved on..

Sorry to the rest of the guys here on the board, basically because I didn't get to this sooner, been workin' ... On new LR ideas... Like how to fit.... shiat you guys know what I'm up to.... Pssssst don't tell Kyle..

Sorry but KVT's crap sucks, he holds down a whole group of "newbies" that some of us don't want to deal with but they want to come out and play too and they need less than "BS" opinions on dweb..

Am I being too harsh? Do I care?


Keith
www.rovertracks.com

So the guys at D-weeb werent hard core enough so you decided to pay some guy to build you a show truck? :rolleyes:
No, that's old text on the website...I'm too busy adding really cool "knives and fire extingushers :) Steve was going to help me out with some of the design work but has since proved to be too busy for charity work. The project is 100% inhouse though, well sort of out back to be exact. :grinpimp:

With my new $20 red star you all should see some pictures this weekend hopefully. If my trailor shows up... :flipoff2:

Keith , you can shut the fuck up as well dumb ass. I posted in this thread for a reason. That reason had nothign to do with tires or whatever the hell it is you are doing. I could give a shit less about what you think you are "Innovating" . This is what starts shit. I came here and posted about a specific problem with specific people and then every whiny little bitch comes out of the wood work.

Yes Kevin , I did Ban you from there . However , like I just said above. It had nothing to do with what was initially posted. Its funny coming from you as you seem to have GIANT monitor muscles.... Monitor muscles are always a funny thing....

Hey VT, what about me? :flipoff2: C'mon get angry, it'l make you feel better I promise... Well, that's what my psycho-therapist tells me anyways. :grinpimp:

Yes Kevin , I did Ban you from there . However , like I just said above. It had nothing to do with what was initially posted. Its funny coming from you as you seem to have GIANT monitor muscles.... Monitor muscles are always a funny thing....

Kyle, you've never met me - so how do you have any clue how different I am in real life as I am online? Ask these Houston fellas here what I'm like in person.

And to be completely honest, I am a little guy - but I keep very big friends. :flipoff2:

Contribute to the forum or please leave. You are 0 for 6 on tech for your posts so far. If I wanted to deal with whiney children, I'd baby sit my nieces. I'm not sure what your issues are, but maybe you could catch an episode of Dr. Phil to help work out the problems.

For the love of god let this thread die.

My names comes up and I am posting. Stop your kids from whining about that and your issue goes away.... I would expect nothing less on my site if someone brought up YOUR name...

If my name came up on DWeb, I'd probably just cry to my mom...:crybaby:

Keith , you can shut the fuck up as well dumb ass.
Ah, yet another genius rebuttal from Kyle... I think he picked this up from his mentor... seems they both think that being able to type "fuck" somehow validates their point... sweet..... :shaking:

0 for 7.

:flipoff2: 0 for 8... Just kidding sachilles, I'm seriously done now. I just couldn't resist. :D

What were we talking about again?

Acting like KVT on Dweeb gets one membership in the Band. Might I suggest (1) Closing the thread and (2) letting KVUF join Sgt. Pepper and the rest of the Band?

Sachilles is right. :flipoff2:

Best Thread Evar. Don't ban him, it's funny to see him flop around like a fish outta water. And swearing! Oh my.

Am I the only one that's never been to Dweb?

http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~joncarte/alf.jpg

http://www.coe.uncc.edu/~joncarte/alf.jpg
have you read the buying 96 discovery help yet? :rolleyes:

no.. are Alf's services needed there too? :laughing:

Keith , you can shut the fuck up as well dumb ass. I posted in this thread for a reason. That reason had nothign to do with tires or whatever the hell it is you are doing. I could give a shit less about what you think you are "Innovating" . This is what starts shit. I came here and posted about a specific problem with specific people and then every whiny little bitch comes out of the wood work.

Yes Kevin , I did Ban you from there . However , like I just said above. It had nothing to do with what was initially posted. Its funny coming from you as you seem to have GIANT monitor muscles.... Monitor muscles are always a funny thing....

So, let me get this straight. You came here to whine about other people that were on you fawkin website and you felt the need to defend your website?

That's about as gay as they come dude, seriously. What do you do, troll around other websites looking around for anyone that might have anything bad to say about Dweb? A little insecure aren't we?

Fawkin grow up. People on the PBB think DWEB is gay, DWEB peeps think the PBB is gay. But, I don't think anyone from the PBB fawkin goes over and defends the PBB (at least I should hope not) on DWEB. That's just childish and looking for a fight. (And actually a bannable offense of the PBB, to start shit with another board)

You've done it, got your panties all up in a bunch, got some sand in your vagina, (call it what you will), but now, in all reality, you've just sunk DWEB even lower in the minds of the PBB regulars.

Smooth dude, way smooth.

Now, either contribute or Shut the fuck up.

Out

Two things i didn't know about Alf. He's gay, and hung like a mule.
Is that why they never really showed his body much on TV?
I was thinking the same thing Indy.
I'll try to get this straight. I wasn't banned from Dweb, I just couldn't sign on and or my posts wouldn't show up.

Alfs doing porn in Holland these days...

Well I put an order in for LTB's 33.6/10.7 went for these because of how narrow they are... but the dam vendor says he can't get em?? Might have to go with the LTB's 32.8/12.6 just worried about the steering rub?? anyone running tires this wide on stock alloys without spacers?? I'll be fine with a 33" tall tire and my 4" lift, and if not trimming and hacking is my expertise...just concerned about width...

PEACE

just saw this thread today. i am not a pbb brand loyalist. i will go wherever i can find info and tech that will serve my evil purposes. for basic stockish disco questions i have admittedley used dweb.
but............







kyle, you are a fucktard. :shaking:

Alfs doing porn in Holland these days...

Well I put an order in for LTB's 33.6/10.7 went for these because of how narrow they are... but the dam vendor says he can't get em??

Which vendor? I bought my 34" LTBs through 4WPW...they regularly go on sale with free shipping. Mount them yourself...it won't matter either way because they are octagonal at best and will never balance worth a lick.

I can't seem to get the 33.6X10.7's at a Jeep shop near me, which is what I wanted.. I'm in Canada so ordering from 4WPW would probably wind up more expensive.. Even though free trade is suppose to mean no taxes on US made products we always get screwed and charged up the arse with 3 or 4 taxes, huge dutie charges and ups will rape you on the brokerage charges... I ship packages daily and live with it. :mad3: but to be on the receiving end is a differnet story.

If I buy from this jeep guy its a primo deal for me, although if he can't get em i may go to national4wd.com ...

Mount them yourself...it won't matter either way because they are octagonal at best and will never balance worth a lick.
Now that's funny, period.

Now that's funny, period.

That's exactly what I did...and I put 4 (or 5...can't remember) golf balls in each wheel to help balance them out.

He's really too dumb to argue with, and EE, well that's a just a joke in itself...the whole operation seems like about 5-10 guys that sit around and take turns telling JL how great he is...
Its too bad, cause Ho seems like a really good and smart guy..

LOL, this is enjoyable. my grandma used to say - if you see a great guy with a total bitch of a wife, or the other way 'round, don't believe it. The guy's just as much of a bitch as his wife, maybe worse 'cause he hides it.

This is not to say that Ho sucks - you're missing the fact that DW stays together for so many years, and "friendly" Ho shares the ownership of DW with "asshole" Kyle. How about that - when someone's trashing around trying to prove some shit, JL and Kyle just call it BS in his face, and Ho's just laughing his head off because he knows that people rarely learn until something hurts.

Somehow, the concept of learning to be a better driver is losing ground to an easier way to bolt cool shit on to one's ride - maybe for a reason, girls wouldn't have a chance to see the first.

LOL, this is enjoyable. my grandma used to say - if you see a great guy with a total bitch of a wife, or the other way 'round, don't believe it. The guy's just as much of a bitch as his wife, maybe worse 'cause he hides it.

Your grandma sounds smart enough to give internet forums a miss. :cool2: