Just placed the order for the 42" IROKs for the Disco from the Lebanese supplier - they should be in by September (I know, I know...)

Anyways, I'm thinking of how to make room for these...options are:

1. Link F/R with Air Shocks pushing axles 4" out (110" wheelbase)
2. Same suspension, add 1" & supposedly new flares
3. Same set-up, cut like MAD

What do you say?

Nadim

1. New Axles. I doubt if the toy's can handle it.

2. The sawzall is your friend.

3. Post pictures when you are done. (Ok, send me the pictures and I'll post them for you. :flipoff2: )

1. New Axles. I doubt if the toy's can handle it.


The guys over in the Toy section have run 42's with the Longfield stuff. If your not too hard on the go pedal they should work. But it would probably be like running 35's on Rover stuff.

Fawker :flipoff2: (on the pics)

I am "thinking" that the Toys should handle them...<200hp and all aluminium should be nice to the axles, no?

The Saw is indeed my friend :bounce:

Yea, you could probably run the toys, and they might survive, but for me, the piece of mind that knowing your axles will survive what you throw at 'em is worth it.

I've seen 60's break with 37's. Don't forget that it's more than just weight, it's the rotating mass itself (if I remember correctly, probably not. :( )


I say run 'em, but start saving your money. :D

Axles won't last, you are foolin' yourself about that. The toy stuff holds up in a lighter vehicle than yours pretty reliably up to 38" tires. They will not hold up to 42's on a disco/toy. Betcha a case of your favorite American beer!

Other than that, lots to think about like lift height and clearance and such. How you gonna cut out the rear without getting into the rear doors? How you gonna fit airshock mounts in the front with a brace across the engine bay? Better buy a Nitrogen tank so you can adjust pressures in those shocks.

How you gonna turn those big meats back and forth, the regular steering is not up to it.

Biggest issue will be fender clearance. Maybe a 3-4" body lift might help.

Billster

I'm not saying that you can't do it or that you're dumb for trying, but I don't think that it will be a well-rounded nicely functioning package when complete. There are more aspects to a truck than tire size, and can you honestly tell me the 36s are holding you back that much?

Sounds like a job for Captain Sawzall!

You need to go find one of those guys from Iceland with the wide flotation tires. They don't go as tall but they're hella-wide.

The ones I've seen pix of still articulate, too !

Ever consider turning the Disco into a 2 door cab with a bulkhead behind the front seats ? I've been toying with that idea for a while, seeing my Disco will eventually be sawed up into a rock mobile. That or go find a used Defender hi-cap body for it...

I understand your POVs cause I share them, but I honnestly think that I can get that truck light enough and enough clearance with the 3" suspension limit to have a wide, low stance...

36s are doing well, but there are times when I really need the extra clearance and traction...

How much do these Toys weigh that are surviving with the Longs and so forth..?

Just placed the order for the 42" IROKs for the Disco from the Lebanese supplier - they should be in by September (I know, I know...)

Anyways, I'm thinking of how to make room for these...options are:

1. Link F/R with Air Shocks pushing axles 4" out (110" wheelbase)
2. Same suspension, add 1" & supposedly new flares
3. Same set-up, cut like MAD

What do you say?

Nadim
I think you're crazy and i'm jealous all at the same time. If you're going to put that big of tires on a rover why not get a 90? I too had dreams of puttin all new axles into my disco and running some big tires but then i decided to save the $ and invest it in a 90 i think it would be the more reasonable thing to do. plus save me alot of late nights trimming fenders rearranging axles and so forth on the disco. But, what do i know this is Pirate 4x4 anything is possible. :flipoff2: I gotta see pics of this!

You need to go find one of those guys from Iceland with the wide flotation tires. They don't go as tall but they're hella-wide.

The ones I've seen pix of still articulate, too !

Ever consider turning the Disco into a 2 door cab with a bulkhead behind the front seats ? I've been toying with that idea for a while, seeing my Disco will eventually be sawed up into a rock mobile. That or go find a used Defender hi-cap body for it...

Yeah, going that way...+ maybe get the front fenders narrowed in so that the tires are naked :) and have the rears pushed back...maybe THAT is the cheapest way...

90 would be too short for 42s in my opinion...110 yeah, but a Disco on 100-106 is cool too

90 would be too short for 42s in my opinion...110 yeah, but a Disco on 100-106 is cool toogood point. got any pics of the current setup?

good point. got any pics of the current setup?

http://www.discoweb.org/nadim

Impressive, maybe i can get mine looking somewhat like that by the end of the summer.

Nadim
fit 101 axles
42's on a 90? the bulkhead outriggers get in the way beond 37's IIRC

101 or mogs? But I want to stay with the "smallish" Rover castings...

Axles won't last, you are foolin' yourself about that. The toy stuff holds up in a lighter vehicle than yours pretty reliably up to 38" tires. They will not hold up to 42's on a disco/toy. Betcha a case of your favorite American beer!

Billster

FWIW, I have my truck down to a tad over 5K lbs. Thinking I might be able to get her under 5K with a Bob and the deletion of a few more "luxury Items"... Like Seats. :flipoff2:

All in all I do agree with you though. I don't think I will be stressing the toy stuff too much with 37's. We really don't run the gearing or torque those guys run. Most of them have sick crawl ratio's. Kind of like Frankenrover. :D Also I tend to be light on the fat pedal! Of course it wouldn't really matter if I weren't as my tired engine might put out 140 HP at the wheels, probably much less than that.


BTW, I think a lot of you forget what kind of terrain Nadim wheels in. If I'm not mistaken there is tons of Sand and a lot less slickrock. Big tires are good!

I'm not doubting the fact that big tires are good and that they would help the situation, but we all know that for every modification there is a tradeoff and I think that in this case moving from 36s to 42s on a Discovery may present itself with too many serious consequences in terms of overall vehicle performance.

Kind of like in a drag car when you can't get the power to hook up at the line, it doesn't much matter how much power you have now does it?

If you cant get the suspension to flex, the truck to be stable, or the axles to withstand any amount of abuse, then having huge tires doesnt really matter does it?

I would try 39.5s but 42's is a pretty serious jump!

Seems cutting makes more sense if you can make it work, a high COG becomes flop city if you do not move the tires out a good bit.

Move the rear axle 4" back and remove the front fenders, cut the quarter panel and the 42 will fit. The extra wheelbase will be need anyway with 42"s.

FWIW, I think I could just about fit 42's in the rear of my truck now. At least on a Rangie there is a ton of room to move the rear axle back. The only issues are the fuel tank. I've got the smaller 18 gallon tank so this wasn't an issue with moving the rear axle back 2 inches.

Just placed the order for the 42" IROKs for the Disco from the Lebanese supplier - they should be in by September (I know, I know...)


What do you say?

Nadim

Part no #0042 kit Disco on steriods ( LR special vehicles sub assembly #666 otherwise know as Disco from Hell )

parts list: ( requires using existing Disco )
#1 buy a plasma cutter ( we all need one anyways, this is a good excuse ) , this presumes you have a good welder.
#2 buy alot of sawzall blades
#3 buy some beadlocks ( from your web page... you need em! )
#4 buy some earplugs, that air compressor mounted on your roll cage is in your ear :flipoff2: ..... Whatd'ya say :confused: I can't hear ya!
#5 go to an office supply place and get those wheels used for office chairs ( see assembly instructions below )
#6 stock up on Chromo Birfs, 1/2 shafts and R&P's
#7 get a hydro ram for steering
#8 get some body spacers
#9 get some bigger springs
#10 Bank account

Directions for assembly:

#1 Take plasma cutter, remove roof and body behind front doors ( leave floor intact, but bob the rear, and remove inner fenderwells ), weld up rear bulkhead and seal cab ala pickup style. Remove front 1/4 panels weld up angled down panel from hood line to above the front wheel like ( looking from front )
"--------------------- Hood line from front"
"\"
" \" this is your new mini front fenderwell.
" ----"
""
" |" this is the wheel
" |"

.........
Adjust liberally with sawzall as needed. ( I think if you look at what Doug D did when he angle the front face of his old D90 ( except he just did it to the front breakfast ( ya, its a brit car you know ) ), you'll get the angle/ look of how you will angle and rebuild the whole front 1/4 panel... IE: there is no more wheel well
except the inner part ( that is resheeted to the proper angle )

#2 fabricate aluminium flatbed for rear, narrowing in a slight "V" shape to accomadate rear tires without fenders.

#3 install body lift
#4 install bigger springs
#5 weld office chair wheels to roof ( you know why! :flipoff2: )
#6 install hydro ram steering
#7 install tires on beadlocks, install on vehicle
#8 build box on flatbed to store spare axles, R&P, tools, AAA rescue number :)
#9 insert earplugs ( I ain't saying where :D )
#10 go wheeling!
#11 use new roof slider
#12 re-insert ear plugs ( I think they nedd to be someplace besides your ears by now, or get seat covers, and clean them )
#13 keep wheelin.
#14 break driveline,
#15 use bank account, fix rig
#16 goto #10

:D

Oh yeah, I will dig up some pics of my old Disco, with a virtual pickup. and then transmorgify em with a flatbed conversion and toms "Lightweight" Disco front end conversiom (tm).... Come to think of it the front is a little similar to a 88" lightweight, but the front fenders do not extend down in front of or behinf the front wheels.... Does this make sense :smokin: :confused: :D


Who will post the pics for me ( ya I'm a cheap bastard, no star... Can I post? I don't think so )

I think it's time you go Volvos or Mogs.

A Disco on 42's is cool, but your uptime with the current axles will be limited.