I am thinking of getting rid of my CJ and looking into building up an EB. Right now my CJ with being SOA and and sitting on brand new 36" TSL/SX just fits through my 82" high garage door. I know the bronco has a bigger body so I am wondering how high could I lift an EB and still have it fit though that 82" high door? I imagine it wouldn't take too much before it has to permanantly sit outside in the driveway. Thanks for your input.

my '74 Bronco with 4.5" BC suspension lift, 2" body, sitting on 36" TSL/SXs is about 80" high at the mid support bar for my soft top

My EB has a 5 1/2" lift with 38" SX's and fits in my garage. Not an exact measurement, but it helps. It is just shorter than my buddies FJ40 which has a SOA and 33" tires. They have a bigger body, but the body isn't tall. The body may look taller because it wraps around the frame (rather than the frame sticking down past the body) if that makes sense.

Go for it man... EB's have more character, V8's, flexy suspensions and the chicks dig em!

Originally posted by injectedEB
my '74 Bronco with 4.5" BC suspension lift, 2" body, sitting on 36" TSL/SXs is about 80" high at the mid support bar for my soft top

How is the flex with that amount of lift and tires? Any rubbing witht the fenders? Did you cut the fenders up as far as they could go?

Originally posted by IronBender
My EB has a 5 1/2" lift with 38" SX's and fits in my garage. Not an exact measurement, but it helps. It is just shorter than my buddies FJ40 which has a SOA and 33" tires. They have a bigger body, but the body isn't tall. The body may look taller because it wraps around the frame (rather than the frame sticking down past the body) if that makes sense.

Go for it man... EB's have more character, V8's, flexy suspensions and the chicks dig em!

Wow. There is no way I could run 38's on my cj with just 5.5" of lift. Unless I baciaclly hacked all the fenders down to nothing and cut up the tub even more than I have. I have trimmed the fenders and 2" out of the tub on my CJ and still rub my 36's at full flex. You're right. I could just be the deception of the way the body is that makes it look much bigger than it is to me. How well does yours do on the trail? Does it flex well and keep the tires from eating up the body?

I am encouraged from what I hear from you and injectedEB. I think its time to get the CJ up for sale and start keep my eye out for an EB.

Thanks for your responses guys

Originally posted by Howdy


How is the flex with that amount of lift and tires? Any rubbing witht the fenders? Did you cut the fenders up as far as they could go?
It flexes pretty good - need to get a twister arm up front to relieve the binding on the radius arms though - last time I went out I had cuts in all four of my tires from hitting the lip on the inner fender wells - those are now ground off :) I did a standard cut out for the fender flares, but as I am about to cut off my bashed in rockers and bob the bottom of the fenders I will raise up the flares too - may move the inner fenderwells up some too as I know I will start hitting them with a twister in there.

I made my own wristed arm, so it flexes really well. The rear is limited by the shocks (9012's are on their way!).

I spent the weekend on putting my NP435 in. I didn't finish, but when I do that will be nice. 6.7:1 first will be nice. Keep your eyes out for that.

I cut the fender wells out and used a BFH to take the edge off of the inner fender wells. Grinder would work as well, but I would have had to walk all the way across the shop to grab it.

Good luck!

Originally posted by IronBender
I made my own wristed arm, so it flexes really well. The rear is limited by the shocks (9012's are on their way!).

I spent the weekend on putting my NP435 in. I didn't finish, but when I do that will be nice. 6.7:1 first will be nice. Keep your eyes out for that.

I cut the fender wells out and used a BFH to take the edge off of the inner fender wells. Grinder would work as well, but I would have had to walk all the way across the shop to grab it.

Good luck!

I notice a lot of people with EB's put the NP435 in. Are the Ford T-18's a direct bolt up? Just wondering cause I have one sitting on my garage floor. Not as low of a first gear as the 435, but its paid for. Is it a harder install for the 18 compared to the 435?

Everybody says that the 435 was their best mod. I haven't got it in completely, but I'd say the mustang EFI that I put on mine will be the best mod (still runs up-side down).

I think the T18 is reallly close to the 435. I think it even uses the same adapter and bell housing. But I'm not positive. Anybody else know?

I have a t18 in my bronco- as far as install it is the same as the 435. It sits a little higher but i cut out what i was told to cut for the 435 and i have no body lift and it fit fine. I wish I had the body lift when I did the install- smaller hole in the tunnel.

Also I have 5" superlift springs now in the front and matching rear- I got my wildhorses 5.5" rock crawlers last night. I can waight to she the results=MORE FLEX

I am running 35's and I am expecting to be able to get in my garage with a 2" body- and possibly 36/37's soon.

I would like to know you guy's measurement from the top of the 44 axle tube to the bottom of the frame- 6 or 7" is suppose to be stock. I have 11 1/4"= 4 1/4"

Would be interesting to compare ours with different springs/motors/winches

Funny you should mention this. WH actually gave me the wrong springs. They were supposed to give me the 5" rock crawlers and I measured it and it's only a 3 1/2. I don't think they are the rock crawlers either, because it flexes well, but my springs are my limiting factor. That just isn't right. I'm going with the BC Bronco's coils. From what I hear they are the best and Chuck the owner is supposed to rock for service.

Seems like a lot of people do a 2" body lift on the EB's. Sounds like its almost a must for putting in a differnt trans or TC.

That is true, the 2" lift is very common. You don't need it for the tranny unless you are going to put in an AOD or a C6. Bronco's come with a fairly low geared Dana 20, so tcase swaps aren't common.

I think the best reason to do it is to fit a bigger gas tank. But I don't wany my EB to get too tall, and I want all the suspension movement that I can get out of it. So only suspension lift for me.

Originally posted by IronBender
Funny you should mention this. WH actually gave me the wrong springs. They were supposed to give me the 5" rock crawlers and I measured it and it's only a 3 1/2. I don't think they are the rock crawlers either, because it flexes well, but my springs are my limiting factor. That just isn't right. I'm going with the BC Bronco's coils. From what I hear they are the best and Chuck the owner is supposed to rock for service.

Did you call WH and inform them of the mistake? I'm sure they will make it right if you give them the chance. Jim has always taken care of me in the past. Just my .02:)

I might. There are a lot of things to take into consideration.

First is I have a set of their Gorrilla War flares that I was going to install. However, when I got the fenders cut out, I decided I liked the way they looked without the flares. So I'm going to try and return them for store credit. With that store credit, I want to buy a set of their rear leaf springs (I'll have to shell out another $150 or so).

If they are cool about that, I intend to buy a set of Rancho 9012's for the back.

I don't know if I want to add onto that returning bad springs. It may overload them. The flares being returned is the biggest thing. I have the original boxs and everything and they were never installed. But that $300 credit would go a wrong way toward the rear springs...

What do you guys think???

Sounds like you have a lot going on so I know how you feel. Do you have the receipt for the coils? It should say which coils you purchased. If it says 5 " and you got the 3.5's- I'd ask for an exchange. I assume you installed the coils, right? Are they in new and sellable condition?

They guys at WH have always been fair with me. It wouldn't hurt to ask:)

Good luck!

The coils have been installed for a couple of months and have the little dings in the paint that would be expected. WH couldn't resell them as new, that's for sure. I don't think I have the receipt. I wonder if they keep a log that they can check? I'll give them a call and find out.

There is a guy local that might buy the flares from me. If he does, that will be less drama. Else, we'll have to see. This will be a good test. Everybody is loyal to BC Bronco's because of Chuck's quality of customer service. I've had a couple of bad experiences with WH and this will do it for me. It will decide who get's my bucks and my endorsement in the future.

Details to follow...

-Jack

Jack- Fair enough. Good luck!

Let us know how it turns out:)

Originally posted by IronBender
Funny you should mention this. WH actually gave me the wrong springs. They were supposed to give me the 5" rock crawlers and I measured it and it's only a 3 1/2. I don't think they are the rock crawlers either, because it flexes well, but my springs are my limiting factor. That just isn't right. I'm going with the BC Bronco's coils. From what I hear they are the best and Chuck the owner is supposed to rock for service.

With flex you'll need more room. I have a 3" body lift, and a 5.5" suspension lift, and with my 36's I still rub. I'm going to 39.5's soon so I'll be doing some body loss.

hey coby whassup? I haven't seen you on here before... I think in the case of EB's the more room for tires is better addressed through trimming, I have a 3.5" wild horses rockcrawler suspension (it's sagged to about 2") and a 3" body lift, then I just pulled out the air nibbler to make room for my 38.5's with the wristed arm on the front, it keeps my CG low (especially with a 500 LB axle in each end and 200LB wheel and tire assemblies), but still allows for awesome flex (should be 1000 or better on a 30 degree ramp, and well balanced and stable in the real world.)

Coby! Welcome to the board. My EB lost a lot of weight around the fenders. I trimmed it up pretty far and beat all the internals down so there is nothing sharp. I have a wristed arm, so I'm hoping the 5 1/2" lift will clear me. Else I'll lose the inner fenders as well.

I'm at 77" with 3" body and 3" suspention and 35" bfgs However I think I need to go eith some 38"s more lift. We will $ee.

I got my new springs installed and they sit at the exact same hieght as before. I had rancho or skyjacker 5" springs and I just installed WH 5.5" springs. I still have 11 1/4" between the top on the axle tube and the bottom of the frame.

I do have much better flex, my shocks are limiting me know. I have f250 mounts and shocks ready to install.

My WH 5.5" springs were like 22" long out of the truck- can anyone confirm this measurement? They were 3" or so longer than the stupidstiff springs I took out.

ovarall pretty happy so far- would just like to know for sure that I have the 5.5" not the 3.5" springs.

I plan on insalling 38" sx's in the next few weeks. I have a 2" body also.

Originally posted by Coby_S_Hughey


With flex you'll need more room. I have a 3" body lift, and a 5.5" suspension lift, and with my 36's I still rub. I'm going to 39.5's soon so I'll be doing some body loss.
I love bringing up old posts!
i have 5.5 WH with a 3 inch body, and Cobys arm, i just barely cleared the 35's, i took a lot of fender out with my 38's still run a little, but with different back spaced wheels i think i can take that out

An update on my end is that my fronts are 5.5" coils. They must need to be worked out a bit. We'll do that at the tank trap on the 23rd. My only problem with clearance is the inner fenderwells. I've cut a lot of them away and I may need to get longer bump stops.

-Jack