got my first jeep after 5 toyotas, its gonna be a cj2, i still need a body, heres a pic even though its not very good, you probbly dont care but im excited

bring on the flames. What the hell is that. I got some blury pieces of shit that I can post as well. Don't get me wrong I appreciate pictures but come on thats ridiculous. Try the testing section newbie :flipoff2:

Say it with me autofocus

arndog

Hmmm, well, so, nice jeep, I guess. So that's your first one, huh? Just out of curiosity, what did the first of those 5 toyotas look like? Was it made with a black crayon too?

Hey Al Kaholick,

I understand that being drunk all the time, that is just the way the world looks to you, but some of us have found that it is wise to slow down when we are out buying things.

When you sober up tomorrow, you will realized you just bought a Toro self propelled lawn mower handle.

Ed

The trruly sad thing is I can tell thats a 2a frame ;)

Originally posted by Rock Taxi
Hey Al Kaholick,

I understand that being drunk all the time, that is just the way the world looks to you, but some of us have found that it is wise to slow down when we are out buying things.

When you sober up tomorrow, you will realized you just bought a Toro self propelled lawn mower handle.

Ed :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Hate to break away from the helpful comments, but what are your plans on drivetrain so far?

Originally posted by fullygruntled
Hate to break away from the helpful comments, but what are your plans on drivetrain so far?
damn newbies....:flipoff2:

well yesterday i picked up a 383 short block from a friend of mine and he said he'd give me some heads with it, but i might not want to use them because they arent that great, im thinking a turbo400 tranny, but i might still go manual im not sure yet, and then i have FF D60 rear, and then I just need a front which will most likely be a 60 as well. I was thinking a 4 link suspension with coilovers all around, but then i started thinking about price on that so i might reconsider, I did see that pic of a green one with a caoe on top, and if anyone has more of his id like to see, his suspension a little better it looks like it works pretty well. I'll attach a better better pic for you guys too, but its still not much to look at yet.

edit: forgot the pic.
JOsh
Originally posted by fullygruntled
Hate to break away from the helpful comments, but what are your plans on drivetrain so far?

Originally posted by Rock Taxi
Hey Al Kaholick,

I understand that being drunk all the time, that is just the way the world looks to you, but some of us have found that it is wise to slow down when we are out buying things.

When you sober up tomorrow, you will realized you just bought a Toro self propelled lawn mower handle.

Ed
BaHAHAHAHAHA!!! thud thud!

:D

get ya a whole bunch of tubing and a tape measure....throw away that frame.....proceed to fab sumptin up....yer done!
now, wasn't that simple?:D

Michael J. Fox takes clearer pictures. :flipoff2:

Good luck on the build-up, keep us updated with clear pics.

Originally posted by Al Kaholick
I did see that pic of a green one with a canoe on top, and if anyone has more of his id like to see, his suspension a little better it looks like it works pretty well.

http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/tech/projects/willys/projectwillys.html

Originally posted by XtremeGod
Michael J. Fox takes clearer pictures. :flipoff2:

Good luck on the build-up, keep us updated with clear pics.
BAWAHAHAHAHA!!! ...thud:D

got a body today, still need a windshield frame and grill supports, anyone know where to buy them in the sac area? does the year matter? if it does hopefully someone can help me ID it because we're not sure. the pics arent great because its dark, but I'll get better ones tommorow.

edit: thats the only pic that came out decent, more tommorow

Wassup Ese!!

Looks like that tub needs your special touch

actually the cowl is the only bad spot the rest of it is in pretty good shape for how old it is
Originally posted by TexasYJ
Wassup Ese!!

Looks like that tub needs your special touch

Originally posted by mike
The trruly sad thing is I can tell thats a 2a frame ;)

I looks like it has a shackle reversal, wouldn't that make it an A1?

Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK


I looks like it has a shackle reversal, wouldn't that make it an A1?

Have to see it in person. After 50 some years most Willys are so bastardized it can be tough to tell what happened to 'em.

Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK


I looks like it has a shackle reversal, wouldn't that make it an A1?

Could be, but I doubt it. Get a close look in person and I could tell ya.

Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK


I looks like it has a shackle reversal, wouldn't that make it an A1?

Looks like a machine gun mount on the crossmember. Must be some sort of military frame or possibly a very early 2A. What year was it supposed to be?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=330904

Edit: In fact, now that I look at it more carefully, the front crossmember isn't round. That makes it a GPW frame doesn't it?

Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK


I looks like it has a shackle reversal, wouldn't that make it an A1?

The f~~~e looks to be a 1941-45 Ford GPW. The machine gun mount on the cross member and the square, not round, front cross member are typical Ford. Look close at the cross members, Ford stamped a lot of them with a script "F."

:eek: Okay, I need to look at my frame a little closer. My '56 CJ-5 frame looks the same as the one posted. It has that same triangle in the back, as well as the shackle reversal. I'd read that 55-56 CJ-5's had shackle reversals from the factory. Is this wrong? I don't think my front cross member is round either, but I'll double check it tonight. Speaking of that triangle in the back (don't know it's technical term :flipoff2: ), it looks like it can be removed so that a larger fuel tank can be stuffed up in between the frame rails. The one that a previous owner installed on my 5 is below this triangle, so it's a bit exposed:eek: :(

the frame is supposed to be a 52 m38a1, but were not sure, the body is what i am more intrerested in identifying, also any ideas on how to register it in california when its done? i cant find its vin # and it sure as hell wont be street legal, so i dont want them to see it

Originally posted by hubeid
:eek: Okay, I need to look at my frame a little closer. My '56 CJ-5 frame looks the same as the one posted. It has that same triangle in the back, as well as the shackle reversal. I'd read that 55-56 CJ-5's had shackle reversals from the factory. Is this wrong? I don't think my front cross member is round either, but I'll double check it tonight. Speaking of that triangle in the back (don't know it's technical term :flipoff2: ), it looks like it can be removed so that a larger fuel tank can be stuffed up in between the frame rails. The one that a previous owner installed on my 5 is below this triangle, so it's a bit exposed:eek: :(

All early Jeep frames look like that at first glance. It is true that early CJ-5s had shackel reversal from the factory. Your front crossmember should be round. I don't believe any Jeeps besides the GPW used anything else. That's true for all CJs, YJs and TJs I believe. You can remove the trianglular shaped brace at the rear if you want. I believe it was there to provide an attachment point for a pintle hitch originally.

Originally posted by Al Kaholick
the frame is supposed to be a 52 m38a1, but were not sure, the body is what i am more intrerested in identifying, also any ideas on how to register it in california when its done? i cant find its vin # and it sure as hell wont be street legal, so i dont want them to see it

Neither of those grills are M38A1. The gray one is MB or GPW. The other one looks to be CJ2A or 3A.

Well, you got my curiosity up on that frame. Did a search on the web, and I managed to find a picture of an M38A1 frame. Low and behold it had the same front crossmember as yours, so I'd say that it is indeed an M38A1 frame.

Originally posted by Grandpa Jeep
Well, you got my curiosity up on that frame. Did a search on the web, and I managed to find a picture of an M38A1 frame. Low and behold it had the same front crossmember as yours, so I'd say that it is indeed an M38A1 frame.

yeah thats what we were thinking the frame was, the body is a whole different jeep, so they may or may not be the same, im really looking to find out the year of the body, or if thats even an issue when looking for a windshield frame

I think you can use any low hood windsheild frame on any low hood body. I don't see the hinge pivots on that tub though so that may be a problem. You can get a new ones from http://www.omix-ada.com if that's the case. You can get complete windsheild frames from them too.

All this discussion... started by a picture my 4 year old would be ashamed of.

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Mo
All this discussion... started by a picture my 4 year old would be ashamed of.

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All early Jeep frames look like that at first glance. It is true that early CJ-5s had shackel reversal from the factory. Your front crossmember should be round. I don't believe any Jeeps besides the GPW used anything else. That's true for all CJs, YJs and TJs I believe. You can remove the trianglular shaped brace at the rear if you want. I believe it was there to provide an attachment point for a pintle hitch originally.

Well, I just looked at my front crossmember and it's not round. It's also not stock either!:rolleyes: Previous owner replaced it with what some channel iron. Were any spots on this fram originally boxed? :confused: There are several places where the frame has been boxed, but yet they left the original springs/shackles on. :confused:

m38a1= stock shackle reversal and partial frame boxing. frames were built to be stronger than past years, so they boxed it. that front crossmember doesn't look stock, i sold the frame to al kaholick, and the guy i bought it from said it was set up for a small block chevy. i think it had a 327 in it.

thanks nick, how do you like the body? thats what i wanted them to tell me about but they seem to like the frame
Originally posted by bigwillys
m38a1= stock shackle reversal and partial frame boxing. frames were built to be stronger than past years, so they boxed it. that front crossmember doesn't look stock, i sold the frame to al kaholick, and the guy i bought it from said it was set up for a small block chevy. i think it had a 327 in it.

body looks good!! you are sure gathering the parts quick. maybe ill swing by soon and take a look at the body

you should, i dont live too far, just over by lembi park