I just wanted to get some opinions on GBR HD axles or any other HD axles you guys are using b4 I buy.

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Damn...I have to agree with Adam once again.

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GBR sells Maxi Drive I believe. Very good axles.

I just wanted to get some opinions on GBR HD axles or any other HD axles you guys are using b4 I buy.

I've been using GBR's rear HD axles for a number of years of moderate wheeling in CO/UT in a usually expedition-heavy, Detroit locked and 33" tire Disco 1. Except for the bling center caps wanting to fall off all the time (locktite fixed 'em), I've had no issues and minimal twist.

I've been running the GBR (Maxidrive) axles for about 5 years with a Detroit. The last couple with 35s. Haven't broken one yet.

What is this Discoweb? Give Keith a call. He has never had a broken axle. And with the money you save you can get some Sand Ladders. :flipoff2:

I hope that was not directed toward me! I was simply wanting some unbiased opinions instead of calling the manufacturer. And fuck Dweb the only thing I can read on that shit hole is the 16 year old wanting to know if 32x10.50 will fit his ride or some fucking imbasile wanting an 8 inch lift. So don't tell me to go to Dweb (which I'm not sure that was directed at me) but anyway, I try to be polite and post what I need to know instead of making some smart-ass remark about fucking Dweb! The only thing that place is good for as someone elluded to in another thread is fancy knives and BS like that! And you can stick those sandtracks up your .........!

Quit confusing the newb. A Rover just aint a Rover without some sand ladders nailed ot it somewhere. Poser! :flipoff2:


What is this Discoweb? Give Keith a call. He has never had a broken axle. And with the money you save you can get some Sand Ladders. :flipoff2:

And you can stick those sandtracks up your .........!

ya know, this matt kid is pretty ok :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I am using GBR 24spl HD rears in '91 RR & Rovertracks 2522 HD front kit( approx. 9-10 mos now?) happy w/ it so far- nothings broken. I guess its a good enough set-up ...unless you're some trust fund spendin' rover owner wheelin' mom's old Rangie and can blow $5K on axles,etc. , its decent for tha money!

GBR axles are good for rovers with upto 35inch tires on the front . With larger tires and hard wheeling you will break them. The rears might be good for 37 inchs tires.

Agree...I am running 33x10.50-15 ,so not nearly as heavy a set up as 35-37" tires---looks like LWG has done a pretty good job recently on this BB with the Toyota / big rear fender mod

for a drop-in 24spl replacement, I think Keith's axles are the best on the market and the best priced. for comparison, here's a quick pic of one sitting next to the old 10 spliners before dropping them in.

-happy customer

http://www.speakeasy.org/~thefains/img/roverPics/axle_comparison.jpg

I appreciate the input guys, minus Larry I got some good info. I guess that guy wasted a minute of his life writing that smart-ass comment. I'm a newb when it comes to Rovers, but I know my shit on FJ40s so please excuse me if I'm not yet a guru on Rovers, and I'm definitely not a poser nor a trust fund baby, I'm in college and basically try and save every dime to make my 97' Disco. an animal offroad yet still driveable to school. But thanks again to those who provided some good info.

FWIW Matt, a local buddy of mine was running RoverTracks HD rears (D1 w/ Detroit 33" ) and then he and I both got RT HD 2522 fronts about the same time. Well, mine sat on the workbench for 2 months while he put his in and wheeled @ Paragon, PA. One of the fronts blew halfway through the weekend on a mild obstacle; he called Keith and they talked it over, etc. I gave him one of my yet to be installed cv's and a week or so later one of the OTHER fronts blew ! Keith & Troy @ RT were very cool about it , actually said they had a bad batch of heat treatment or something, replaced all said cv's w/ new batch and all has been well since. So....I would rate Rovertracks pretty high but I would also say GBR is pretty reputable as well.

I appreciate the input guys, minus Larry I got some good info. I guess that guy wasted a minute of his life writing that smart-ass comment.

Somebodies a little sensitive! Remember thick Skin! :flipoff2:

BTW, if I'm not mistaken I did give some good info, you just didn't want to hear it the way I put it.

Nobodys sensitive man, I let everything roll off my back, I just hate to ask a simple opinion question about what works and what may not and you chime in with a smart-ass remark like " go to Dweb " :flipoff2: :flipoff2: And what good info. did you provide the only thing you said was call Keith, he has never had a broke axle. Like I said before I'm not going to call the manufacturer for his opinion, but thanks anyway.

Looks like somebody might have a little sand in his vagina. :flipoff2: Might be a good idea to listen to the guy running 37's on hard trails with "bolt in" axles (larry). Or not.

Nobodys sensitive man, I let everything roll off my back, I just hate to ask a simple opinion question about what works and what may not and you chime in with a smart-ass remark like " go to Dweb " :flipoff2: :flipoff2: And what good info. did you provide the only thing you said was call Keith, he has never had a broke axle. Like I said before I'm not going to call the manufacturer for his opinion, but thanks anyway.
:rainbow: :crybaby2: newb

And what good info. did you provide the only thing you said was call Keith, he has never had a broke axle. Like I said before I'm not going to call the manufacturer for his opinion, but thanks anyway.

Hey Dumbass! Keith is not the manufacturer. He resells Moser axles. The only other way to get Moser axles made for a Rover is to call Moser. Then you will have to machine the spacer he sells.

I still think your too sensitive! :rolleyes:

Hey Larry, liked the pics of your Rangie from last week. Looks like the Toyota's held up well. I just got mine with the E-lockers in my old leafer today and will wire them up tomorrow. I had Dutchman make my axles for me. The fronts are based on a D44 with u-joints...It's a little 88" Series on 31"s so I'm not too worried about breaking them and they fit perfectly inside the swivel ball.

Is Keith having them made for Series trucks too or just coilers?

Hey Larry, liked the pics of your Rangie from last week. Looks like the Toyota's held up well. I just got mine with the E-lockers in my old leafer today and will wire them up tomorrow. I had Dutchman make my axles for me. The fronts are based on a D44 with u-joints...It's a little 88" Series on 31"s so I'm not too worried about breaking them and they fit perfectly inside the swivel ball.

Is Keith having them made for Series trucks too or just coilers?

I'm not sure if Keith is making them for Series. I suspect he could make them for anything and would consider it. Why did you go with U-Joints? Will the Longfield CV's not fit in the ball? The 30-spline longfields are way strong than D44 U-joints according to the testing he has done. Otherwise you should have a pretty sweet setup!

i take it back.

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

what are the specs of the moser axles
material, size, waisted-non waisted?
serg

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

That's what I'm talking about. :shaking:

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Wow are we up to like one idiot a week going over the edge now? :shaking:

Common decency? You're looking for it in the wrong place. :flipoff2:

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Don't freak out dude. You got your answers, and some free entertainment too. What's the problem? :flipoff2:

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Hooray I still got it. Newbs beware. Matt get back to us when your balls drop.

I got a new magazine today so excuse me.

JP

Relax hammerhead, I'm a newb here too and they don't bust my balls.....much. :flipoff2:

Thanks Larry. I went with the u-joint for no other reason than I don't know much about the CVs and their dimensions. The u-joint axles were modeled after the original 10 spline inners and the 24 spline outers that Rover used in the later 109s. Doing it this way allowed me to keep everything stock up front as far as the stub axle, hub, FWH, etc. I had to sleeve the inners just a bit for the collar, inner axle bearing race and retainer but the outer is exactly the same as the Rover one except the bigger yoke. I didn't even bother with CTMs and just plunked a Precision 371 in there. To tell you the truth, I've never even broken a 10 spline rear let alone a front so I'm not too worried about it. I did this swap for the locker more than anything. I run an 80hp diesel and 31"s so I think I'm pretty safe. And seeing what you're doing with the Toyota centers and 37"s in a big Rangie only reassures me!

jim

Fuck you Larry, Fuck you Pendy, Fuck you Buckon your mom has sand in her old wrinkly vagina!!!!!! All you guys may be pretty smart when it comes to Rovers but you have no common decency, to answer a gd ? :smokin: :flipoff2: the only thing I asked was for your opinion and I get three morons talking smack about how much they know. Yeah you can put your gay pride flag and laugh or whatever. And for the most part you all make a big shit about somebody being a fucking newb to LR but who fucking cares anyway everyone of you fags started in the same gd place. From the bad feedback I have gotten from you fuckers I don't even care if they boot me from this site I guess I'll go to Dweb and talk to normal fuckers unlike you fags that spend every waking moment beating off to 4x4 mags. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Just when I forget why I love this board, I get reminded! good times, good times.

Dame :p :shaking:

what are the specs of the moser axles
material, size, waisted-non waisted?
serg


I honestly don't remember what the Rover spec'd Moser axles are. I wanna say they are roughly the same diameter as the Maxi's. Regarding waisted or non, it seems they are the opposite of Maxi's in this regard. Give Keith at rovertracks a call, he will definitely know the specs.

Edited for stupidity!

what are the specs of the moser axles
material, size, waisted-non waisted?
serg

AFAIK most Moser axles are made from 1541H - a common automotive engineering steel. The H means the axle blanks are supplied induction hardened and then the splines cut into the hardened steel. 1541H axles are usually non-waisted.

I've got Maxi's axles & locker in the rear with 35"s and my tailshaft corkscrewed on a rock climb.
Good indication of axle strength! :D

well mister Matt Diesel,

or must I write mister Mad Diesel,

if you go to the Disco web , with the talking you do here, they kick you out as fast as you came in on the forum.

Sorry that I cannot help you with your question

cheers.

The Axles I supply are of 1541 H .. A pretty common performance axle material used by Moser Dutchman and others. They are not a waisted design and THAT"S ROVERTRACKS!!! LARRY!!!!!

How soon they forget!!

It's all in good fun guys, I was a bit drunk when I came home and wrote that, but it's all good. I talk shit, you guys talk shit, it's all fun. And Pendy when my balls drop, I'll be sure they drop in your mouth, since you put your gay pride flag up I figured you might like that. :flipoff2: :D

Matt, you may search here (http://www.neverbeenoffroad.org/)

It's all in good fun guys, I was a bit drunk when I came home and wrote that, but it's all good. I talk shit, you guys talk shit, it's all fun. And Pendy when my balls drop, I'll be sure they drop in your mouth, since you put your gay pride flag up I figured you might like that. :flipoff2: :D

I will try to be more patient with you my young lad. I remember how it was over 25 years ago when my balls dropped. Of course I only have one of them left. Terrible accident really. You mom almost choked to death. :flipoff2:

It's all in good fun guys, I was a bit drunk when I came home and wrote that, but it's all good. I talk shit, you guys talk shit, it's all fun. And Pendy when my balls drop, I'll be sure they drop in your mouth, since you put your gay pride flag up I figured you might like that. :flipoff2: :DI knew i had heard your name before...from the TNRovers board..."what is needed to complete a 3" lift on a 97 disco." You can't even put a damn lift on by yourself but yet you sign up for pirate? :shaking:
http://www.tnrovers.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=531

Matt, you may search here (http://www.neverbeenoffroad.org/)

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I got a new magazine today so excuse me.

You mind uhh... lettin' me take a look at that when you're... done? :flipoff2:

Thats one of the funnier comments I've heard in a while Pendy,I mean it man I really like that comeback! And Bluewater like I said in earlier post I'm new to Landrover so I'm not sure what to expect when working on them they are alot different than a 72 fj40. And Dchapman that seems like an insightful website maybe they can answer your flashlight ? you posted on Dweb :flipoff2:

Diesel seems pretty sharp for a LR newbie. Maybe with some tweaking and fine tuning he can be developed into a member of our wonderful establishment? Every rodeo needs a clown in a barrel.

Matt, you may search here (http://www.neverbeenoffroad.org/)
That is funny. The first time I saw it I thought it was a dig against you guys by someone else. I think I actually posted that I knew one or two of the people listed, and they were not the mall crawler types. Seems I got the joke a little on the late side

Yea Matt, I did ask about flashlights on Dweb. The guys over at Dweb can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about stuff like that.

Chuck, That site is about to go crazy. I talked with the site owner last week in R'dan, and was at his house the week before. He's got some crazy ideas that are going to be really funny.

http://www.neverbeenoffroad.org/html/faq.html Damn thats funny.

http://www.neverbeenoffroad.org/html/faq.html Damn thats funny.

Almost should get a 35% warning :D

Hey Bluewater it say's you live near the Ocoee, where did you go to school at? I figured I might know you since I live up there too.

What Rover do you have Bluewater?

I go to UTC but live in Cleveland, TN. I have a black Disco I fairly stock due to the fact that i wrecked my first disco but, I'm doing some work to it this summer once i get the time. hopefully it will be sittin on 36's by the end of the summer. :D

Same here man, I go to UTC and live in Cleveland, although technically Cleveland it is actually about 10-15 minutes from the Ocoee.

Did you go to BC or CHS?

shoot me an email and we'll talk. marmotmountain11@bellsouth.net

Do you guys know Zach Jaggers? He has a black Discovery 1 with a fair ammount of stuff done to it, and lives in Clevland.

Will

Yep i know him.

i live in cleveland....didn't know there were so many rover guys from cleveland on the board...