the boys at S&N Fab drove my TJ down to Randy's Off Road to challenge THE RAMP!!!

http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy088.JPG

http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy089.JPG

http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy090.JPG

http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy091.JPG

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Ya think its tall enough now that you can take off the shopping cart guards on the tail lights??:flipoff2:

That thing turned out kick ass, congrats.

i love the hoops thru the hood....looks real sick!:D

Originally posted by Cutter
i love the hoops thru the hood....looks real sick!:D

you should see them from the driver's seat :D :D :D

damn that things pretty bad ass! nice flex :D

Looks awesome, I love the way you have mad flex, but it is well balanced between front and rear. And the hoops through the hood show that you mean business!

-Bart

So what degree is the ramp?:smokin:

The rear seems to move REAL well. How's the front? Is everything maxed out in the front end? It doesn't look like the front axle is articulating quite as much as the rear.

If there is still some flex left in the front end, you *might* benefit from some sort of torsion bar in the rear. I'd mention the Currie A/R bar, but I don't think even the Currie setup could handle that much movement efficiently. You would probably need something custom.

cmk

What size tires are those?

That thing kicks ass.

Originally posted by cmk
The rear seems to move REAL well. How's the front? Is everything maxed out in the front end? It doesn't look like the front axle is articulating quite as much as the rear.

If there is still some flex left in the front end, you *might* benefit from some sort of torsion bar in the rear. I'd mention the Currie A/R bar, but I don't think even the Currie setup could handle that much movement efficiently. You would probably need something custom.

cmk


That is what I was thinking, the rear is trick but you can gain more travel out of the front. What is limiting the droop on the front axle?

Is the rear a triangulated 4 link?

Originally posted by Beast40



That is what I was thinking, the rear is trick but you can gain more travel out of the front. What is limiting the droop on the front axle?

Is the rear a triangulated 4 link?

there isn't anything limiting the front, it's just that the rear ended up being softer than the front, so it does it's thing sooner...we're going to play with the charge pressures first, but we'll probably end up bumping up the rear spring rate a bit...

and the rear is an upper wishbone with lower triangulated links...

Originally posted by Rodney YJ
What size tires are those?

That thing kicks ass.

37" SSRs...

the specs are at:

http://www.sn-fab.com/brett/

:D :D :D

Originally posted by cmk
The rear seems to move REAL well. How's the front? Is everything maxed out in the front end? It doesn't look like the front axle is articulating quite as much as the rear.

If there is still some flex left in the front end, you *might* benefit from some sort of torsion bar in the rear. I'd mention the Currie A/R bar, but I don't think even the Currie setup could handle that much movement efficiently. You would probably need something custom.

cmk

If he would have backed up the ramp, you would think the same about the rear set up.

Ramps are :rainbow: for the most part, but good to check for binding on new stuff, and checking out shock length, etc....

Very nice looking rig. I like the stance of it and those towers through the hood look great. Nice job on it and congrads for getting it done...for now at least

So did you disconnect the Currie Anti-Rock to ramp it ?

I'll wager you did, because there's no way in hell it'll go that far up the ramp with it connected ;)

Also, judging from the offroad pics, your suspension is anything BUT balanced due again to the AR.

The rear appears to be doing 90% of the work.

Take that useless AR off and wheel it and let me know you don't prefer it.

I dare you :)

DS

Originally posted by DippStick
So did you disconnect the Currie Anti-Rock to ramp it ?

I'll wager you did, because there's no way in hell it'll go that far up the ramp with it connected ;)

Also, judging from the offroad pics, your suspension is anything BUT balanced due again to the AR.

The rear appears to be doing 90% of the work.

Take that useless AR off and wheel it and let me know you don't prefer it.

I dare you :)

DS

yep...disconnected it to ramp

and right again about the pics...it was connected here, and on the stiffest setting:
http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy082.JPG

after the monster tire pick (and after removing the seat from between my butt cheeks) we disconnected the AR and ran without it...we didn't run that same section again, but on the rest of the trail the improvement was HUGE...they were calling it the StayPuff marshmellow Jeep because of how softly it went...so the AR will be coming off during pretty much any serious wheeling...

I did run without the AR, and with the tires at 8psi for a couple of miles on the street to get to a buddy's house to air up...can you say 'serious pucker' :eek:

Hey, the jeep looks great :D , and those Loops in the hood look sick, but what the hell are they? Just for looks?

Seth

Originally posted by LordRatner
those Loops in the hood look sick, but what the hell are they? Just for looks?

Seth

are you serious?

I feel like I'm repeating myself :P

If you add a rear swaybar you can keep your anti-rock, and your front will imediately start to flex more and the jeep will be much more balanced and more stable on the street as well as the trail.

CJ

the hoops are sweeet....:smokin:

Originally posted by LordRatner
Hey, the jeep looks great :D , and those Loops in the hood look sick, but what the hell are they? Just for looks?

Seth

Yes newbie, they're just for looks. All the mallcrawlers are doing it... :rolleyes: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by Cutter


Yes newbie, they're just for looks. All the mallcrawlers are doing it... :rolleyes: :laughing: :laughing:

LOL...that's too funny:goofball:

just 2 days ago Jason and I were BSing about making stick-on shock hoops that you could apply to the hood without cutting a hole...we figured it would sell big with the "StreetLock" crowd :D :D :D

Originally posted by LordRatner
Hey, the jeep looks great :D , and those Loops in the hood look sick, but what the hell are they? Just for looks?

Seth

:laughing::laughing::p NEWBIE, if you had looked at the pics closer, you would see that those "loops" are the shock hoops for the coilovers:flipoff2:

Originally posted by M/C MAN
So what degree is the ramp?:smokin:

http://jeep-club.irtech.com/Phils_Mods/30degree1.jpg
http://jeep-club.irtech.com/Phils_Mods/30degree2.jpg

The ramp we use is a 30deg. The one in the posted pics looks like a 23 or 20.

The real test is on the trail.....

Originally posted by 664n668


LOL...that's too funny:goofball:

just 2 days ago Jason and I were BSing about making stick-on shock hoops that you could apply to the hood without cutting a hole...we figured it would sell big with the "StreetLock" crowd :D :D :D

BAWAHAHAHA....THUMP!
I bet they would sell! Have you noticed the crap they sale at Autozone for the ricers? Freakin amazing what people will buy and hang on thier junk:rasta:

Yo 664n668,

What springrates did you run on the front coilovers? Are you happy with the performance?

Thanks!

Originally posted by orbitcat
Yo 664n668,

What springrates did you run on the front coilovers? Are you happy with the performance?

Thanks!

Spring rates are
250/375 front
225/350 rear

the front seems just right and the rear is just a bit soft...we'll probably bump them up just a bit

but that's just for my application...not sure how it would work for you...

When purchasing coil overs do you pick the spring rate and then the length of the shock? How do you determine how much lift the coilovers will net you?

Out of curiosity, did you go through the tub in the rear?

Originally posted by orbitcat
Out of curiosity, did you go through the tub in the rear?

like this??
http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/roundy015.JPG

:D :D :D

lots more pics here:
http://www.sn-fab.com/brett/

the link to the pics is at the bottom

Did you reduce the angle of the rear coilovers? Just curious.
Got to love those front spankin ass hoops!
Nice work ;)

I love that tire pick shot on Expressway. First time I saw it I went "Oh shit he flopped already!" :D

-J

Originally posted by doctor_G
Did you reduce the angle of the rear coilovers? Just curious.
Got to love those front spankin ass hoops!
Nice work ;)

nope, kept them at the original angle, and as predicted, the body roll is minimal...

I think that if you saw the rear suspension cycle through it's entire range it would make a lot more sence why the coilovers are at that angle...

and thanks!...the guys at S&N Fab did a fabulous job on my rig...drove it home Tueday night and drove it to work yesterday and today...can you say 'perma-grin'??

One question....
Can it fly? (will it be able to take small/medium jumps)

Looks great, I cant wait to get my coilover swap done one of these months.

Originally posted by Lowrangerider
One question....
Can it fly? (will it be able to take small/medium jumps)

Looks great, I cant wait to get my coilover swap done one of these months.

I'm thinking it will:D :D :D

when I find a place to jump it I'll make sure I get some good pics and let you know:D :D :D

:smokin: Saw the pics a couple days ago....they didn't do your rig justice. It's sweet and the fab work looks great. What size are the rod ends on the rear links?...and how bout a pic of the drivers side frt. upper CA on the diff. Again....:smokin:

Originally posted by CJ Lagos
I feel like I'm repeating myself :P

If you add a rear swaybar you can keep your anti-rock, and your front will imediately start to flex more and the jeep will be much more balanced and more stable on the street as well as the trail.

CJ

Ditto.

Originally posted by harsanyj


Ditto.

ditto that he's repeating himself?...or ditto that a rear swaybar will give me a more stable street ride?...

both are kinda obvious aren't they? :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

oh, cooool man, that's kicks arse!!!

you even got the "go through the hood and make people ask questions" stylin' upper mounts.

who makes that kit?

Originally posted by 'tswaylo
oh, cooool man, that's kicks arse!!!

you even got the "go through the hood and make people ask questions" stylin' upper mounts.

who makes that kit?

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: kit??...does this count as a "Funny Newbie Saying"...:D

just joking...thanks man!!...but you can't buy this 'kit'...it's all custom from the boys at S&N Fab :D :D :D

My sense of humor was too dry, the kit thing was meant as tongue in cheek. January 2000 issue of Fourwheeler has a rig in it called the Hellcat that my buddy and I built for a certain offroad event promoter. It has little bubbles ball-peen-hammered into the hood to cover up the upper structure that holds the Sway-a-ways.

I think I like your way better, looks mean.

Later

thanks man!!

I smelled the dry humor :D

Originally posted by Chark
:smokin: Saw the pics a couple days ago....they didn't do your rig justice. It's sweet and the fab work looks great. What size are the rod ends on the rear links?...and how bout a pic of the drivers side frt. upper CA on the diff. Again....:smokin:

thanks man!:D :D :D

the axle side heims are 1", the rest are 3/4"...and there is no upper CA on the driver side...that side is wristed...the pass side has a radius arm type UCA that land high and inside:
http://www.sn-fab.com/brett/roundy046.JPG

sorry...that's the best pic I got...I can try to get a better one of the front geometry if you want...

:D :D :D

:smokin: Again nice work by S & N...how about a pic of tha wristed arm? Thanks.

What happend to the ramp that they used for Lance's rig? :eek:

CJ is right on the money....regarding the rear sway bar.
Only idiots discard or remove shit they cant get to work LOL

Email CJ offline I am sure he will assist you in further tweaking your awesome creation. Good job on being one of the first to do it to a TJ. WOW

T

Dippstick yer still an idiot no matter what board you hide on:zzz:

TNugent ,

Idiot, big word for a newbie :flipoff2: :flipoff2: Now go back to the JU board where you belong.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by TNugent
Only idiots discard or remove shit they cant get to work LOL


you lost me with your logic here...this rig has a totaly custom suspension...so we basically started at zero...and as such, by definition there was nothing to 'discard or remove'...

:confused:

Posted by TNutsack,


"Dippstick yer still an idiot no matter what board you hide on"


Yeah, I'm such an idiot that I graduated with honors in the top 10 of a class of over 150 when I got my engineering degree 8 years ago.

I'm such an idiot I make probably more money than you'll ever see, short of pimping your sister.

I don't like the idea behind the Currie Anti Rock. Neither do lots of other people.
True, unless you do what CJ says and run one in the rear you will not have a 'balanced' suspension. However, there is very little point in my opinion in building a long travel suspension, only to limit its droop severely using anti-rocks or any other form of swaybar.
A TJ with front and rear disconnected will give you a balanced suspension too. It will also give you a LOT more flex, which is surely the whole point of the exercise ?

One other thing, if you know who I am then I think it's you that's hiding behind a newbie name - why don't you step up and reveal yourself you big mouthed cowardly little fek ?

DS

Originally posted by DippStick
Posted by TNutsack,

One other thing, if you know who I am then I think it's you that's hiding behind a newbie name - why don't you step up and reveal yourself you big mouthed cowardly little fek ?

DS

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

NICE!! :D

Dippstick,

Gonna have to disagree. Whether one is needed on the RE long arm kit is one thing...but on a heim jointed coilover suspension I definately would want them. Most people just use extremely stiff springs which IMHO isn't that great of a solution. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a super nice shock that can get your ride to be like a caddilac only to use really stiff springs as a bandaid to combat other things. Just start talking to the guys at swayaway or other shock places that REALLY know their stuff...

Swaybars help balance the suspensions so that they both are working somewhat equally, which will help vehichle stability. It also gives the suspension some resistance to movement that heim jointed links do not. It gives the suspension a "neutral" point...ever notice why tons of long travel trucks just lean to one side when they park....there is nothing to keep them centered.

As far as limiting flex? My swaybar didn't hinder flex at all. You just gotta use them to fine tune, the currie anti-rock is probably just too stiff for the long arm kits out there, but it works great with the stock setup...you gotta mess with it, there isn't a simple solution for all.

Start looking around at just about any 1/4 eliptical suspension. Hey, since that guy at Poly Performance started talking about he was god...why do his kits not look to be all that great? Here is a pic form his page:
http://www.polyperformance.com/prod12.jpg

Check out how the front suspension is doing absolutely nothing and the rear is totally tricked out to the max? I wouldn't enjoy driving that thing around. This is where swaybars really start helping when they can provide some resistance and force the opposite suspension to work also.

Anyway....that is my thoughts.

CJ

how am i missing the pic of it pickin a tire makin it look like it already flopped?....trail pics look good

I see where DS is coming from. I run no swaybars off road on my 3" Tera system. It works very well, burt my springs are relatively short and a little stiff. I imagine with a tall, very soft spring you would benefit from one to control lean on sidehills if nothing else. Also, don't they help to reduce tire pick and other problems associated with tall short armed TJs?

-Bart

Check out how the front suspension is doing absolutely nothing and the rear is totally tricked out to the max? I wouldn't enjoy driving that thing around. This is where swaybars really start helping when they can provide some resistance and force the opposite suspension to work also.

Anyway....that is my thoughts.

CJ [/B]

OK folks, I never claimed to be a "GOD". That was someone else "Calpolystud" to be exact. That is not me, just for the record books. The Jeep is Ghettofab's. It was build over a year ago. CJ: Take another look at the front end. http://www.polyperformance.com/prod13.jpg
Yes, that is a 9012 maxed out in the front. I won't be the first one to say it but, yes, the roll axis blows a bit and that is a bit of rear ster that you are seeing. Here was the deal. To triagulate the lowers (for a more parallel roll axis) the whole back half of the jeep would have had to been cut off. The best was done with the constraints at hand. One more thing. It drives fine on the street. Crap, one more thing. Drew (GOAT1) and Dylan @ Sway-A-Way, you guys ROCK and KNOW your shit.

Oh Sorry Goat Boy I for some reason it was you, I guess the calpoly thing and the poly performance thing had me going, sorry got too many ideas trying to get into one sentence...my bad.

I really wasn't bashing that Jeep, i think it looks great....i just was pointing out how much flex you were getting...

Sorry,

CJ

Its cool, don't sweat it. :)

I think that it boils down to a well designed suspension will perform well, and a poorly designed one will perform poorly...

with a good design you can use things like swaybars to fine tune specific performance parameters...after all, spring rate is spring rate whether is a leaf, coil, or torsion bar...

with a poor (or marginal) design things like swaybars become bandaids to correct deficiencies in the original design, and are necessary for the suspension to do it's job...

the design that S&N Fab came up with for my TJ is almost pefectly balanced (like I said previous, we'll do a slight bump up in rear spring rates to tweak it in), and pefrorms VERY well on the trail with no swaybars...the springrates are too soft by themselve for the street, so I am trying just the front AntiRock (which I already had) and the results are acceptable...we may add a rear swaybar if I feel it's needed after I drive it for a while, but it, and the front AR, are just for the street...

I agree with Dippstick, I have tried the Anti-rock thing on and off road and can't see any advantages of the products. With the AR and rear bars hooked up my TJ picks a wheel up every where. Yeah the Jeep is more flat, however it want to get tippy all the time. When I remove the AR and rear sway bar the thing is a totaly new ride. It flexs like a mother and feels very stable, dosen't pick up a wheel all the time. It just works killer.:smokin:

Hey 664n668,

Who makes the flares that are on the Jeep? Are they 7" wide? Do you know if the mfg has a website?

Looks awesome by the way! :beer:

i believe those are bushwacker flares

put me in line for some of those stickers hahahahahaahha!

that things sweet...the hood hoops are sick...kinda like a hummer...beefy looking...

Now I have some ideas for my FJ, in the far future ....
nice...for a jeep :flipoff2: j/k
:jeep3:

Joseph A.

664n668, What seats are you running???
About how much were they, and about how thick is the bottom pad...butt pad?
Also, do you have any other pictures of them?
Thanks

Joseph A.

Maybe your boys over at SN fab should make it in kit form. They would sell a shiteload of them to the fawkin newbie TJ crowd..bolt on, then weld for permanency...

Originally posted by TxCruzr
664n668, What seats are you running???
About how much were they, and about how thick is the bottom pad...butt pad?
Also, do you have any other pictures of them?
Thanks

Joseph A.

those are the Beard Super Seats...normal width and hieght...real comfy and great support

got them at Randy's Off Road http://www.randysoffroad.com

can't recall the price but they were quite a bit less than the price listed on the Beard web site...

all the pics so far are at http://www.sn-fab.com/brett/

Originally posted by Tron
Maybe your boys over at SN fab should make it in kit form. They would sell a shiteload of them to the fawkin newbie TJ crowd..bolt on, then weld for permanency...

:confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by DippStick
short of pimping your sister.

DS [/B]

:laughing: :laughing: :eek: :D

Brett,

The TJ looks awesome. I have a stupid question. What did you use for the trim around the cut outs for the shock hoops going through the hood? I'm looking for some basic black trim to clean up some cut fenders and all I can find is funkdafied chrome stuff at local auto part stores.

Thanks,

Mike

I am getting ready to do a coil over to the front of my YJ to eliminate the last of the pro-crap coil conversion kit.
Where would you guys go to buy the parts? Shocks themselves, springs etc?

Also getting ready for 38's

Originally posted by Grendel
I am getting ready to do a coil over to the front of my YJ to eliminate the last of the pro-crap coil conversion kit.
Where would you guys go to buy the parts? Shocks themselves, springs etc?

Also getting ready for 38's

Roggy Enterprises (http://www.roggyenterprises.com/shocks/index.html) in Camino.

Originally posted by TJoop


Roggy Enterprises (http://www.roggyenterprises.com/shocks/index.html) in Camino.

yep...that's where we got mine...and that's who Jason at S&N is working with for the other coilovers that people want on their rigs...I think that they're addictive :D

Originally posted by TJoop


Roggy Enterprises (http://www.roggyenterprises.com/shocks/index.html) in Camino.

Hell, will they do it there?
Could save me a butt load of work that I don't have time for.
Need to get around to fixing the blown D-44 rear and Ox-locker.

Originally posted by Tron
Maybe your boys over at SN fab should make it in kit form. They would sell a shiteload of them to the fawkin newbie TJ crowd..bolt on, then weld for permanency...

You know, this really jacks me off. You lump every TJ owner into a "newbie, never been off road" crowd... Comin' from a guy with the biggest fuckin' yuppie wagon available aside from that Mercedes Benz POS, I'll take your statement for what it's worth: Jack Shit.
Shove that Grand Cherokee soccer mom wagon right up your ass. :flipoff:, Fuckin' prick.

Originally posted by Mike_Lib
Brett,

The TJ looks awesome. I have a stupid question. What did you use for the trim around the cut outs for the shock hoops going through the hood? I'm looking for some basic black trim to clean up some cut fenders and all I can find is funkdafied chrome stuff at local auto part stores.

Thanks,

Mike

Hey Mike, I'll try to find out from Jason where he got it at...but he is pretty busy getting ready for Calrocs...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Tron
Maybe your boys over at SN fab should make it in kit form. They would sell a shiteload of them to the fawkin newbie TJ crowd..bolt on, then weld for permanency...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Originally posted by Welby


You know, this really jacks me off. You lump every TJ owner into a "newbie, never been off road" crowd... Comin' from a guy with the biggest fuckin' yuppie wagon available aside from that Mercedes Benz POS, I'll take your statement for what it's worth: Jack Shit.
Shove that Grand Cherokee soccer mom wagon right up your ass. :flipoff:, Fuckin' prick.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

good one Welby

Hey Tron:
http://www.keytech.com/~jtholman/threadpics/stfu.jpg

Originally posted by Welby


You know, this really jacks me off. You lump every TJ owner into a "newbie, never been off road" crowd... Comin' from a guy with the biggest fuckin' yuppie wagon available aside from that Mercedes Benz POS, I'll take your statement for what it's worth: Jack Shit.
Shove that Grand Cherokee soccer mom wagon right up your ass. :flipoff:, Fuckin' prick.


daaamn welby, you must not like this guy too much...... come to think of it i dont know him.... but yep..... i dont like him either.... so yeahh what welby said..... jaggoff prick! :flipoff:

Originally posted by Grendel


Hell, will they do it there?
Could save me a butt load of work that I don't have time for.
Need to get around to fixing the blown D-44 rear and Ox-locker.

yes he does all kinds of fab work, and it is VERY sick. Has built several rigs that compete in arca and cal rocks.

Thanks. I dropped a line. I guess he's a bit busy.

Originally posted by Welby


You know, this really jacks me off. You lump every TJ owner into a "newbie, never been off road" crowd... Comin' from a guy with the biggest fuckin' yuppie wagon available aside from that Mercedes Benz POS, I'll take your statement for what it's worth: Jack Shit.
Shove that Grand Cherokee soccer mom wagon right up your ass. :flipoff:, Fuckin' prick.

Well, I took your advice since you're such a crazy wheeler with more posts than wheeling trips and I can't figure out how to get my soccer mom SUV out of my ass now...can you help me o wise web wheeler? I still think it would sell to the TJ weenies it kit form.

Originally posted by Welby


You know, this really jacks me off. You lump every TJ owner into a "newbie, never been off road" crowd... Comin' from a guy with the biggest fuckin' yuppie wagon available aside from that Mercedes Benz POS, I'll take your statement for what it's worth: Jack Shit.
Shove that Grand Cherokee soccer mom wagon right up your ass. :flipoff:, Fuckin' prick.


Dude you need to Stop holding back. Tell us how you really feel about this guy. :flipoff2: :laughing:

Originally posted by Tron


can you help me o wise web wheeler?

No.... :flipoff2::D

:D Hey...I hate to bust this up...but I have a question for S&N or the owner. One your longarms, did you use a Johnny Joint or what size rod ends? On the upper control Y arm I see a bushing is this rubber or poly and what size? Thanks. P.S. Welby is right...fawk soccer mom and Tron's rig!!!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Tron


Well, I took your advice since you're such a crazy wheeler with more posts than wheeling trips and I can't figure out how to get my soccer mom SUV out of my ass now...can you help me o wise web wheeler? I still think it would sell to the TJ weenies it kit form.

yeah right...a kit...and the first step in the instructions will be

"1 - Completely disassemble your TJ discarding all roll bars, axles, suspension components, and stock bracketry. See Figure A"

http://www.sn-fab.com/brett/roundy001.JPG
Figure A

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chark
:D Hey...I hate to bust this up...but I have a question for S&N or the owner. One your longarms, did you use a Johnny Joint or what size rod ends? On the upper control Y arm I see a bushing is this rubber or poly and what size? Thanks. P.S. Welby is right...fawk soccer mom and Tron's rig!!!:flipoff2:

yeah!...let's get back to talking about my rig! :D :D :D

all of the crossmember heims are 3/4" chromolly, the axle ends on the rear are 1" chromolly, the front radius arm joint (the crotch of the Y) is another 3/4" and the front axle mounts are polly bushings...I don't recall the size offhand...

I hate to burst your bubble, but a RE long arm with longer shocks can flex that much.

Originally posted by A 4 liter V8 eater
I hate to burst your bubble, but a RE long arm with longer shocks can flex that much.

ummm...don't worry about my bubble...the RE long arm is what I got rid of...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by 664n668


ummm...don't worry about my bubble...the RE long arm is what I got rid of...:rolleyes:

What did you do with it? I could use it on my YJ!

Originally posted by Grendel


What did you do with it? I could use it on my YJ!

it's long gone...sold it to pay for the new stuff, also sold the axles, tires & rims, bolt-in front cage, inside rack, stock seats, intake, diff guards, chip, stock flares...anything I could to keep the project going...at one point I was tempted to see what I could get for a kidney :eek: :D :D :D

Oh well, all I needed was the front anyway... I guess I'll build my own or go coil over.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAA

.......THOSE LOOPS IN THE HOOB LOOK SICK. BUT WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY? JUST FOR LOOKS?.............

Had to laugh my Fawken ASS off on that one.
Bet one "could" sell the bolt-on cosmetic kit the way some PPL buy useless crap.


The shock hoops look GREAT, and the axle performance is awesome. Hats off to those who worked on the jeep.:beer:

Another one I couldn't help but notice.

..........FRONT NOT FLEXING AS MUCH AS REAR......NOT BALANCED.....

Of course the JEEP, or any other 4x4, will not "look" balanced when it is ramped forward. This is due to the centerline, or majority of the weight is placed on the rear. If the 4x4 were to be backed up the ramp, then the weight would be to the front, thus resulting in the APPEARANCE of the flex being more in the front vs. rear. IF the 4x4 were to straddle a ditch or other form of crevass, then one could truly see the balanced effect. I personally use the ramp strictly for checking clearances and movement. I use a ditch to truly test balanced flex.

Currently, just by using simple bolt-on stuff, my 84 XJ ramps a respectable 668 on a 25 degree ramp, with tires at 32 PSI.
Since this is my only mode of transportation, mods are kept to a one-day deal, I have 44's on standby, plus suspension mods on the back burner.

:beer:
:zzz:
Way to go on all of your rigs, they look GREAT.

shit...Neckster was fawkin with the web page again and changed all the URLs so now there's a bunch of boxes with little red x's in them...this is what I get for trying to show off their work :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Coilover TJ page (http://www.sn-fab.com/projects/Brett/index.html)

but he did put up pics of a bunch of other rigs they've worked on:

S&N Fab (http://www.sn-fab.com)

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

I hate to burst your bubble, but a RE long arm with longer shocks can flex that much.

You're a dumba$$. Been a member since Feb. and only talked sh@t in your posts. Add some tech for once.

And if your as hard core as you act like you are, I'll see you at the eastern rock crawling championships (http://www.erocc.com/). I'm guessing since you've got so much sh@t to talk you'll probably be the guy on the winners podium :rolleyes:

Originally posted by mtndewmaniac
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAA

.......THOSE LOOPS IN THE HOOB LOOK SICK. BUT WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY? JUST FOR LOOKS?.............

Had to laugh my Fawken ASS off on that one.
Bet one "could" sell the bolt-on cosmetic kit the way some PPL buy useless crap.


The shock hoops look GREAT, and the axle performance is awesome. Hats off to those who worked on the jeep.:beer:

that was a good one...:D

and Thanks!!!...it's SNORTclown and Neckster that deserve the :beer:

Originally posted by bigdude


You're a dumba$$. Been a member since Feb. and only talked sh@t in your posts. Add some tech for once.

And if your as hard core as you act like you are, I'll see you at the eastern rock crawling championships (http://www.erocc.com/). I'm guessing since you've got so much sh@t to talk you'll probably be the guy on the winners podium :rolleyes:

ouch...that had to sting :p

Great Work

share specs.........

what shocks did you use, coils what rate etc.............

I want to build something similar:flipoff2:




http://www.xtoys4x4.com/fotos/chacabuco16/paolo4.jpg

Originally posted by pcelle
Great Work

share specs.........

what shocks did you use, coils what rate etc.............

I want to build something similar:flipoff2:



This thread's pretty old I'm not sure if the guy with this TJ is still around...you might want to try PMing him.

done that ........:D

Originally posted by Jason R


This thread's pretty old I'm not sure if the guy with this TJ is still around...you might want to try PMing him.

you can also try hitting him up on the S.N.O.R.T. (www.snort4x4.com) board

That is a really nice rig and hats off to you and the guys that built it.

wow...this thread was from a LONG time ago...

the coilovers are Bilstein 9100s, pre-rockcrawler series...probably overkill for most applications but I wanted top-quality for my rig since it's my daily driver...

contact Jason at www.sn-fab.com for various coilover options...

and since the original post that started this thread I've put over 17,000 miles on my coilover TJ and I love driving it every day

:D :D :D

Thanks for yor reply

Ill contact Jason


Bilstein 9100s, pre-rockcrawler series.... model ?
coils .... model ?

pics .......?


:D

email is gone

but there is one prob im IN Chile !!!, kind of far will he send em ???