: 17" BS and TR flip help needed
caryt 03-15-2005, 07:08 AM I need to order 17" rims asap and back spaceing is all over the map. I have the bulet proof steering and I will do a flip to get it all on top. With my 15" I could not do this cause of clearence issues. 17" should clear no problem but I am hopeing someone that has done this can conferm. I will either go with Walker Evans 17x8.5" beadlocks at 3.75bs or get some forged centerlines 17x9" at 4-4.5"bs and send them to Champion to be beadlocked. I would rather have the forged wheels if the bs will work. I will run 37"MTR's
Thanks, Cary
1uglyranger 03-15-2005, 07:27 AM Both should work, but the 3.75 will definetly work, cause thats what mine are, and thats how my steering used to be set-up. I would suggest not stacking the two hiems on top of each other though...... it causes a lot of binding.......
caryt 03-15-2005, 07:57 AM Binding.... did ya use a spacer between them???
Cary
JeepinCJ7 03-15-2005, 10:32 AM I would run the Walker Evans beadlocks. It gets you more trackwidth similar to what you are already running. 4.5" backspacing will pull the tires closer to the inner fenders. You "could" do it and run wheel spacers, but why. The Walker Evans BLs are the doo doo.
1uglyranger 03-15-2005, 01:11 PM Binding.... did ya use a spacer between them???
Cary
Yep, it had a spacer, but with the right side stuffed, and the left dropped out, it bound pretty hard.... The spacer only allows for a certain amount of angle. Now I have a couple of tabs welded to the tie rod, and the hiem on the draglink is perpendicular to the ground..... zero binding, no matter the angle :D
caryt 03-15-2005, 02:51 PM Brian, do yu have a picture of the 'TAB'
Cary
caryt 03-15-2005, 03:06 PM Scotty, I was thinking that if I went to 4"bs+- and a 9" wide rim that would be better and I though that I wouldn't need a spacer,but can't find a rim... I see that you run mtr's and iroc's, your pro's and con's would be appreciated. I have found 37x17's mtr's for $226.00+ taxes but they are local so no shipping!
Cary
1uglyranger 03-15-2005, 03:08 PM No, but it looks like 2 half cirlces, tapered at the bottom edge to better fit the round tube, with a 3/4" hole for the hiem.
Oh yea, they are 1/4" thick......
caryt 03-15-2005, 03:29 PM ??? I think I understand.... but if ya get a picture let me know.
Thanks, Cary
caryt 03-15-2005, 04:55 PM I need to order wheels asap and need to know what the max backspace I can use without needing spacers. I will be fliping my bullitproff steering to the top and running 37" MTR's. My 3.75 bs 15" were a problem and I ran a .250" spacer just to clear the heims on the stock hubs without fliping them to the top :-X I think with 17" rims, flipping them up clearence should not be a problem ?:? . But the tire to everything else could be. I have found 17" centerline forged that I can get beadlocked and be into them cheep but the backspace is 4" which should be fine. The only other choice is Walker Evans at $$$$ and 3.75bs. The other consideration is the centerlines are 8" wide vrs the Walker's at 8.5" is that going to be a problem?
Thanks, Cary
JeepinCJ7 03-15-2005, 10:20 PM I need to order wheels asap and need to know what the max backspace I can use without needing spacers. I will be fliping my bullitproff steering to the top and running 37" MTR's. My 3.75 bs 15" were a problem and I ran a .250" spacer just to clear the heims on the stock hubs without fliping them to the top :-X I think with 17" rims, flipping them up clearence should not be a problem ?:? . But the tire to everything else could be. I have found 17" centerline forged that I can get beadlocked and be into them cheep but the backspace is 4" which should be fine. The only other choice is Walker Evans at $$$$ and 3.75bs. The other consideration is the centerlines are 8" wide vrs the Walker's at 8.5" is that going to be a problem?
Thanks, Cary
Cary, I personally like being full width. And I run stock width EB axles. I run 1.5" wheel spacers on all four and have 2.5" Backspaced Centerline Hellcats with Champion beadlocks. With the Iroks I am 82" to the outside of each tire. Now, with the 15x8 Baja wheels at 3.75" backspacing and 37" MTRs I am only 77" to the outside of the tires and that is with the same wheel spacers. Just saying that width is GOOD on the trail. I can side hill great with the Iroks, and love the full-width stability that setup gives me. If I were you, I would run a 2" wheelspacer and the Walker Evans wheels. Or, have Allied or High Impact build you a custom setup with 2.5" backspacing.
As far as the tire is concerned, I have not run a better tire off road than the Irok. PERIOD! I have not tried red label Krawlers yet though. My Iroks have done the Con', Hammers, Truckhaven, deep mud, desert running, etc. I've done the same with my MTRs. The Iroks work good in everything I have run. The MTR were a good rock tire, but still not as good as the Irok and definitely not as good in everything else. The problem is that my Bronco is my daily driver, so she runs around in MTRs on the street. Oh, and my 36" Iroks are every bit as tall as my MTRs are. I just love the extra width the Irok gives me. They are great tires. They don't flat spot overnight like typical Swamper bias plys either.
caryt 03-16-2005, 06:19 AM Why did you go with the bias over the radials?
Cary
JeepinCJ7 03-17-2005, 10:54 AM Cause I've had them for a year and a half and Bias was the only option. In all honesty though, the tires act like radials on the road. IMHO, Swamper has never built(before the Irok) what I would call a strong sidewall radial. I've seen SSRs and TSL Radials cut. Maybe the Irok radial is better, but I loved my bias plys and would run them again. 39s for me next though.
My 36s were only $153/ea from National Tire and wheel. $70 to ship them and no tax. Radials are $50 more for each tire.
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