I need help with this! I am ready to buy new tires for the truck I'm almost done building. I had 35" boggers, unmodified, on my previous wheeler. It had some problems sliding sideways on sloppy wet hills and such, but I never really had a problem on dry surfaces.

Anyway, what's everyone's opinon on this? I need a tire that measures 39"+, so that leaves out almost all other tires...

Squash

You could cut the boggers but if I was you I would do the BOGGERs in the rear and TSL's on the front.....seems to be the best all around conditions.....so I hear......I haven't done this-Yet!

:beer: :D ;)

How about cut TSL's. Here are my 39.5X15X15's
http://www.respite.org/images/cj66dean/tire.jpg

Dude did that take you like 8 years to cut those TSL's like that, Hey I want to see some pics of some cut Boggers!:smokin:

Holy Bajesus, that really must have taken a damn long time. Way to stick it out :beer: I second Shaker's idea, TSLs in the front, then run cut boggers in the rear. Dig it...

I will cut whatever tires they are, but I'm thinking a cut set of Boggers compared to the same size TSLs won't have the sidehilling abilities. Interesting concept with bogs AND tsl's.

Squash

I really depends on where you wheel. I feel that TSL's are the best "all-around" tire while boggers are great for going straight in the deep mud, or climbing big ledges in Las Cruces. The reason people run tsl front/bogger rear, is because the front is the easy part of the vehicle to get over a ledge. The rear is always the hard part, and nothing compares to those paddles for ledge-grabbing ability. With this setup, you still have some decent side-hill ability because the steering tires are TSL, unless you have rear steer, then it really don't matter cause you could crab uphill.

Anyways, if you are gonna be in mud, dirt and rock, go with TSL's.
If just rocks, then where?? For moab or other relatively smooth-type surfaces, TSL would be my choice, for Las Cruces or Farmington, with the sharp ledges, i would go tsl front, bogger rear...

just my .02

A 31" TSL and a 40 TSL have the same amount of lugs just the ones on the 40 are larger so it takes about the same amount of time to do. The tip is have the tire warm before you put the iron to it and I have 2 different size irons so that helps. In all it takes about 30min a tire once you get set and going.

my cut sx's


they are cut similar to 66cjdean and they work great
my next tire will be a 42 tsl cut the same way

Boggers are for mud. Hated mine on the rocks. Ledges, yes slick rock, wet rock NO!!

Cut SX's and this took me about 2 hours for all 4 tires

Good info guys, thanks. I was also thinking cut 42" TSL's... My terrain will be midwest style rocks, many times slippery, but no deep mud bogging type stuff. And if everything goes good I'll be heading out west a couple times a year for some hardcore rock-crawling.

Squash

Originally posted by 66CJdean
A 31" TSL and a 40 TSL have the same amount of lugs just the ones on the 40 are larger so it takes about the same amount of time to do. The tip is have the tire warm before you put the iron to it and I have 2 different size irons so that helps. In all it takes about 30min a tire once you get set and going.

:rolleyes:

http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/SipingTool.jpg

My tool of choice, no irons, and warm tires needed, just do it on a windy day.
Going to stack a pair of blades next time, get a lil wider cut.
15 min per tire, 33" TSL's.

Always wear your safety glasses, and keep all body parts out of the way.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/SipedTSLSideLugs.jpg
With this one I was just experimenting on the side lug cuts, trying to keep away from the edges of the lugs to avoid anymore chunking than their already is.(Critical remarks unneccesary this isnt a fashion show!) ::flipoff2:
You can see some of the P.O.'s knife sipes in the body of the center lugs.
Problem with the saw is control..I got pretty good after doing three tires. :D :rolleyes:
WOuld like to try the same thing with one of those mini-skill saws..that would be much easier, or a router...but i'm not sure how the bits would fare, or what ones to use.

MJ

Cut my old buckshots with a SawZall. Funny thing is, it doesn't matter if you use a wood or metal blade. Neither cuts worth a damn till it gets hot.
<img src="http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/buckshot/tire09.jpg">

You can barely see it, but I siped my MT/Rs with a utility knife. Your hands get really sore after 2 tires.
<img src="http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/mtrs/mtr01.jpg">

This guy made paddles for his Rail with a set of buckshots and a chainsaw. :eek:
<img src="http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/01-20-02/Jan20_38.jpg">

here's a bogger i cut up, still need to try em

http://www.texasoffroad.net/albums/members/album28/Jam055.jpg


ric

I had a set of 38" TSL's that were about half worn out. I bought a Tire gooving iron from Randys Race Mart, and went to work. Before, the tires did not impress me too much, now they work great. All of this work was done with a $50 tire grooving iron. It made the tire flex alot better and clean alot better. You can't tell from the pics but the tread was siped before I did the major re-shaping. Obviously these are no longer street legal but they work great off-road.

To see some pictures of my modified 38" TSL's, Check out the following links.

http://www.alaskaoffroad.com/images/Tech/cut38s7.jpg
http://www.alaskaoffroad.com/images/Tech/cut38s6.jpg
http://www.alaskaoffroad.com/images/Tech/cut38s4.jpg