pick a jeep, any year, any model and make it trail worthy with only 5 mods. what jeep would you pick? what parts would you pick? why? spring over does not count as 1 mod, as you have to modify alot more than one thing to get it done. get it? the article in JP "take any jeep through rubicon" got me started on this one.:beer:

i'd get a 80s cj-7 with a 258 and an auto.
1) MPI- it would run anywhere
2) 1pc. axles- cause 2pc. are weak
3) rear locker- do i need to say why?
4) winch- for those times you stop moving
5) rocker guards- cause with no lift your gonna hit your rockers
this should be a class for competition. you'd know who the better driver was for sure.:beer:

M715
Mod's later

Ditto M715
1. MPI
2. Rear Spool
3. Front Detroit
4. Small lift
5. 38" Swampers

1 Brand new Purple Liberty:

Mods:
1. bujillion watt stereo system
2. black hole quality - light absorbing window tint
3. 1 55 gallon drum tack welded to the exhaust pipe
4. 15" wide low profile tires mounted on 3" wide gold rims
5. a set of pants that hang off my ass

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Momma I just had a nighmare!!! Hold me, I'm scared!!!!

Ed

Ok, if it were mine....

91yj to start with, and the 4.0 auto combo.

1. RE 4.5" Xtreme duty lift
2.front lockright
3.rear detroit
4. 44's front and rear.. yes, thats ONE mod LOL
5. 36" swampers

And lots of cutting.. thats not a mod :)
Scott

take my 81 CJ5 with 304 V8

1. Upgrade axles
2. Big Lift
3. 35 inch tires
4. Winch
5. Rear locker

stock 4 cyl auto TJ

4" Lift
35" SS Boggers
gears
winch
rear locker

a commando with:

television/sattelite dish
lap top
leather
wet bar
playboy bunny

Originally posted by Rock Taxi
1 Brand new Purple Liberty:

Mods:
1. bujillion watt stereo system
2. black hole quality - light absorbing window tint
3. 1 55 gallon drum tack welded to the exhaust pipe
4. 15" wide low profile tires mounted on 3" wide gold rims
5. a set of pants that hang off my ass

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Momma I just had a nighmare!!! Hold me, I'm scared!!!!

Ed
Don't be fooled people, Ed's building this as I type!:flipoff2:

95 YJ

1. 8.8 rear end
2. rear locker
3. sawzall till 35's
4. gears
5. winch

I'd take a Venezuelan build Jeep CJ-7 (~60" wide D44's Front and Rear w/ 4.10's, thankyou!) They were still making these in '91 when I was there taking care of some business for my Uncle (you may know him, his name is "Sam"?)

1. EFI Vortec V-6/4L60E swap - plenty of power but mild enough not to break parts, and fuel injected, cheating a little, but since they're both connected (and can remain connected throughout the install) -- I count that as one mod.

2. 4" Lift - one of those lift kits that come complete with shocks, brake lines, etc...

3. 36x12.50 TSL/SX tires*

4. Rear Locker**

5. Front Locker

*Unless removing sheetmetal is a Freebee then 38x12.50 TSL/SX tires

**Unless mods you can do for FREE are not counted here, then Lincoln Lock (weld) and use #4 for a Winch.

newbie to the board here (insert,flame funny comment). two options here all purpose driver/ trail beater or all out insane beast.

option #1-
2003 tj rubicon-lockers, 4-1gears, d44's, h.d. t-case,and winch(optional) all from the factory

1-8" skyjacker rock ready
2-37" super swampers
3-gears to match
4-a winch(although that a factory option)
5- full cage
*6- a big grin as i walk over everything i can then drive to work the next day

option #2
m715-beast right out of the box - minus the 232 "lightly blowing breeze" engine

1-good seats
2-welded diffs
3-42" boggers siped and little lugs cut
4-chevy leafs for super flex action
5-1 custom built, baja 1000 race truck 700hp+ small block ford

sawzall action doesn't count as a mod in my book.

1. flatfender.
2. 1-ton running gear
3. rollcage
4. little 4 cylinder turbo diesel motor.
5. tires

THATS CLOSE TO 5 MODS?:rolleyes: i guess you guys missed the point.:rasta:

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
1. flatfender.
2. 1-ton running gear
3. rollcage
4. little 4 cylinder turbo diesel motor.
5. tires

CAll me when it's done. That's the SHIZAT!!!!

To bad this is not what I'm working on at the moment.
Maybe the next project :D

Sure would be cool wouldn't it.

just my opinion but its just as easy to do and soa as it is to bolt up a suspension lift, actually easier if your talking a tj or xj lift

what i mean is 1 mod. modify 1 part, thats all. 5 mods. that soa requires alot more than changing 1 part.:rolleyes: now do you get it? i know there easy, i drive a fullwidth, 108"wb, V8 cj-5. i know how to modify, just seeing what you would change if you had to keep it down to changing 5 parts.:beer:

Only 5 mods.. start with my TJ and...

- 10" Skyking Coilover Lift
- D60 Front
- D60 Rear
- 4.3 Atlas II
- 39.5 Boggers

Oh yeah and some napkins for all this drool :D

I have to start out like monkey boy---------------- That is with a flat fender.. A 48 CJ2A to be exact... now to begin the mods----.

#1* swap the original L-head for a 2.2 Turbo II to gain FI and increase torque and hp
#2* swap the original T90 for later model 5spd to get the OD and lower 1st gear.
#3* swap the D18 fpr a D300 for more strength and lower low range
#4* swap the D27 front axle for a D30 narrow trac to gain disc brakes but keep the 5.38 gears
#5* swap the D41 for a D44 or amc 20 narrow trac to mate up with the D300 ie centered diff also keeping 5.38 gears..

* I do not know if each of these would count as 1 mod or more than 1 mod according to the criteria.. If they count as more than more than 1 mod start dropping mods from the bottom till you get it down to 5..These are the actual mods I am performong on my Willys in addition to adding rear disc brakes.power booster and MC from a Caddilac.. will also change to more modern steering system in the future hopefully power..

I definitely agree with eastcoast strongarm on what vehicle to start with. The TJ Rubicon is definitely the best stock platform Jeep ever produced. Then I would:

1. 6" Rubicon Express Exteme Duty kit (or is that 5.5", who gives a sh*t)
2. sawzall enough for 37" SSRs
3. 15x10 Eaton beadlocks with 3.25" backspacing (black of course)
4. the new Warn 8274 winch
5. 4.88 gears and lockers (c'mon, I counted the WHEELS for chrissake!)
:flipoff2:

Jeep: new TJ with these options:

5' 10" blond, (female) blue eyes, 140 lbs, 36 D's.., well educated

her twin sister

their trust-fund being fully vested

myself being independantly weathly

and the time to do whatever I wanted...





Is this what you meant?

--Sherpa

mid 70s comando


1. weld front diff

2. weld rear diff.

3. install 38 inch tires

4. sawzall to fit tires

5. 9K winch

hmmm... thats a tuff one


I say beer tap... lol

Rubicon TJ
1.lift
2.Tires
3.winch
3.6 pack
4.12 pack
5.case

start w/ 78CJ5 w/ t18a and 304


1.cage
2.move spring perches on top of axle :D thats 1 mod
3.locker in front, weld rear
4.drop pitman arm (does this count?)
5.big ass tires
and if 4 doesn't count, warn 8274

'76 thru '79 CJ-7

1) 2 1/2" lift
2) 33"s
3) lockers or weld
4) cooler
5) beer

With that CJ, it already came ready to crawl from the factory with the exception of hight and positive traction.

I did it in 3 mods or less and it WILL do the 'con, what do I win??

1. Chrome Bumpers
2. Sticker that reads"its a jeep thing you wouldent understand"
3. Dual CB Antennas
4. Some of those chrome pedals
5. Some Chrome Rims with no backspacing

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
what i mean is 1 mod. modify 1 part, thats all. 5 mods. that soa requires alot more than changing 1 part.:rolleyes: now do you get it? i know there easy, i drive a fullwidth, 108"wb, V8 cj-5. i know how to modify, just seeing what you would change if you had to keep it down to changing 5 parts.:beer:

Your MPI swap should take up at least 4 mods then. Actually.. more than your allotted 5 given the wiring ;) seriously dude. I cant think of a worth while mod that doesnt require changing multiple things. Afterall, some folks consider adding a hilift a mod :rolleyes:

what the new Warn 8274 winch? where can i see one or read about one? oh and i would tart with a rubicon TJ.

1.RE 5.5 long arm
2.426 HEMI
3.D60 front and rear
4.38x14.5 tsl/sx
5.ox lockers
:smokin:

Okay, now why on earth would you put a 426 in a jeep? Looking to pull 10 second quarters?

Originally posted by mike
Okay, now why on earth would you put a 426 in a jeep? Looking to pull 10 second quarters?

HAHAHA yeah i just thought it would put a little "pep" into my Jeep, plus it would be another new totally ridiculous mod that someone did. :flipoff2:

God its NOT the big block I'd bother with in a jeep. It kicked ass in my duster... but I kinda like leaving my jeep run at idle most of the time :beer:

Originally posted by whitefro
2. 426 HEMI
Daaaammmmn! Who needs that much engine in a SWB Jeep. I could see someone swapping that into a Commando or something...

Either way, that's got to be more than one mod -- you'd need to widen the whole Jeep to fit that mother under there. That is one WIDE engine... I think in a narrow track CJ, the tires would just about rub the valve covers.. :D

- Mike

1 time

2 money

3-5 more of 1-2

86 Scrambler With the dana 44 rear option and dana 300 transfer case.... (already has the long wheelbase and a good rear axle....
1 bob rear end
2 swap in 44 front
3 spool rear
4 cut the hell!!!! out of the fenders
5 throw on some little 33" tires cuz that is about the biggest that would fit. even with the fenders cut to oblivion bwahahaahahah

'79 w/t sj Cherokee w/ 258-6, t-18(a), d20

1. EFI
2. 4" Skyjacker Softride
3. 33" BFGs
4. Warn M15000
5. locked rear

good point on the MPI, but you order it as one part. i was letting all the lift "kits" slip on by as 1 mod also. who wouldn't want a HEMI? i'd let that baby idle all day! of course i'd have to add another 22gal cell..................:p

Choice of mods depends on your purpose, of course. I could live with several of the above configurations, but here's a different one for you. This is for a canoer who works all the time and has to make the most of his limited time off. It's got to be fast getting out of the city, a good highway driver but capable of reaching the most obscure launch spots on all the good rivers, low maintenance and reliable:

New jeep TJ
1. Souped up motor
2. 15K winch (for wall climbing)
3. Modest 2-3" lift
4. Biggest, widest tires that will fit
5. $80 canoe rack

SOUPED UP? like cambells chunky beef soup?:flipoff2:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
SOUPED UP? like cambells chunky beef soup?:flipoff2:

Well, that depends. I wasn't sure how much you'd let me get away with and still call it 1 mod. Premium vichyssoise if money is no object, campbells if you're gonna be strict, just as much as I can do to the motor for only one mod.

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
good point on the MPI, but you order it as one part. i was letting all the lift "kits" slip on by as 1 mod also. who wouldn't want a HEMI? i'd let that baby idle all day! of course i'd have to add another 22gal cell..................:p

I've had one :D like I said kicked ass in the duster it was in. But it's kinda a waste to go slow with one ;)

start with any jeep:
1. trade for 72 bronco with 200 6 cylinder, and factory 4.56 gears
2. swap stock 3.03 3 speed for NP435
3. sawsall to fit 36" tires, along with sawsall to rocker panels, and bottom corners of front and rear
4. 36" swampers
5. weld- rear diff
(if you don't count the sawsall action use #3 for a front detroit

5 mods, and it makes a truck that I'd be willing to take through the rubicon, johnson valley (but not all of the trails, unless a winch was around on another truck in the group), to moab, tellico, pretty much anywhere...

2003 Jeep Rubicon
1. 8" lift
2. SYE
3. 35s
4. 4.88s
5. winch

2003 Rubicon edition TJ
1-huge shop
2-tig welder
3-tubing bender
4-shopping spree at Currie
5-ability to excreet large amounts of $$$$$$$

Oh that doesn't answer the question does it
New TJ
1- Sawzall the hell out of the fenders oh hell just cut the front ones off completely
2- 2.5 ton axles w/ welded diffs
3- extend wheelbase to 110"
4- Atlas II 4.3:1
5- 44" TSL SXs (I know they don't make them, but were just dreaming anyway):emb:
:beer: :beer: :beer: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

hhmmm, the old "take the radiator cap off, move the jeep over and jack up a bronco underneath it" reply.:nuke: i'll throw down and play your little game(i say little cause were talking about a ford here). 435 swap takes more than 1 part to accomplish. and i could have sworn "welded diff and rockstomper beadlocks" was 2 mods, but i could be wrong. so learn how to be a good smart ass if your gonna play!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
hhmmm, the old "take the radiator cap off, move the jeep over and jack up a bronco underneath it" reply.:nuke: i'll throw down and play your little game(i say little cause were talking about a ford here). 435 swap takes more than 1 part to accomplish. and i could have sworn "welded diff and rockstomper beadlocks" was 2 mods, but i could be wrong. so learn how to be a good smart ass if your gonna play!:flipoff2:
ok, I was counting welding as a freebie, but if we're playing like that, skip the rockstompers, with the factory 6"rims I don't need beadlocks anyways:D As for the 435 it comes as a kit, just like your MPI, or others "lift kits", or atlas transfercases. Maybe being used to jeeps you are used to having to swap everything around:D but on bronco's it's pretty simple (it helps to not have to combine parts from every manufacturer to get a decent rig...the 435 bolts to the stock bellhousing, uses the stock clutch, and stock crossmember, a 1" adapter (comes with the tranny) bolts to the back of it, and the bronco adapter housing, and dana 20 t-case bolt right to that. the only thing that requires some alterations is that since I specced a 6 cylinder truck the rear driveline will need to be shortened, and possibly lengthen the front (although you can probably wheel it with the stock length front shaft). If I had used a v-8 truck I wouldn't even need that, since it stacks up stock length in the v-8 trucks. Since you can buy the whole thing as a kit, it fits the same criteria as you've used elsewhere, and is alot more 1 mod than the stretching TJ wheelbases to 110" mentioned elsewhere...lesse here, fab custom framerail extensions, fab custom suspension, extend rear driveshaft, custom brake lines, etc...so :flipoff2:
BTW, I wish I still had my flatty too, but it had way more than 6 mods to make it a capable wheeler...

Originally posted by Rock Taxi
1 Brand new Purple Liberty:

Mods:
1. bujillion watt stereo system
2. black hole quality - light absorbing window tint
3. 1 55 gallon drum tack welded to the exhaust pipe
4. 15" wide low profile tires mounted on 3" wide gold rims
5. a set of pants that hang off my ass

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Momma I just had a nighmare!!! Hold me, I'm scared!!!!

Ed The color purple would make that six mods.

so now all us jeepers are educated on swapping a 435 into a bronco. :zzz: accually my dodge 435 bolted right up to my dodge 360 motor.:flipoff2:

Take my '60 CJ5 with a PTO, 5.38's and a twin stick Dana:

1. Lift 2.5" (lift kit, one mod, right?)
2. 35's (does a sawzall job count as it's own mod?)
3. long shaft for the T90
4. Dauntless V6
5. AA T90-Dauntless adapter

I suppose welding the gears would count as #6? BTW, If the thing came with an engine in it rather than a big ol' gaping hole like when I bought it, the list would be:

1. Lift 2.5" (lift kit, one mod, right?)
2. 35's (does a sawzall job count as it's own mod?)
3. Full Cage
4. 5 point harness
5. hand throttle (one mod buying it in a kit? :))

I'd still count on welding the gears as labor rather than changing out a part...

Best Jeep with only 5 mods would be:

1.4 inch lift
2.Sawzall Fenders
3.35X16 Boggers
4.Dana 44 front(assuming alrdy has 44 in rear)
5.Weld spider gears

keeping engine stock and lift minimal, the reliablity should be pretty good.

anything with 4x4
1) case of beer
2) sawsall off anything resembling a fender
3) weld spider gears
4) 35 inch tires
5) another case of beer
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

m715

1) weld front and rear diffs
2) slap in a ford 460 :p
3) 38.50x11x16.5 boggers
4) rusty's 6" lift kit
5) bob the bed