I have a 1996 F-250 Powerstroke, and the only thing keeping it from being a real truck is getting rid of the ttb. Is there any way that a Superduty dana 60 will slide under my truck without major torching??? I know that the tierod ends are different and the hubs are metric, but could I replace the superduty hubs with the hubs off my ttb, put on superduty tie rods, and roll???

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What are the reasons for this? Thanks

Have you compared the width of that axle with the width of a pre-98 D60? It will work but if you outboard the springs, but you will track far wider in front unless you add the accompanying Sterling SD rear. Either way, it's too much of a pain in the ass to be worth it. That axle isn't much of an improvement over TTB. Search for a pre-98 D60.

yup you dont want to bother shoving that under your truck. There realy isnt anything wrong with that axle though, exept for the wheel bearing design. The bearings are fine for stocl tires, but will wear faster than the old design wit big tires on them. Not much faster but a bit. Ford carnage must be thinking about the solid Dana 55 thats in the F- 250`s as the axles neck down to dana 44 size (1.31" 30 splines) and the ruing and pinion are small (dana 50 TTB). The axle from the F-350`s is a real 60 same as all the older 60`s, just a bit wider, metric bolt pattern, and those wheel bearings. They have one cool option though , the hubs. The hubs have the old dial, but they have lock and auto, this auto is not like the old weak shitty auto hubs though. Auto is still un locked unless you supply vacuum to them. Im plumbing in vacuum passages into my 96 axles so I can lock and unlock each hub individualy (4wheel steering) In muddy areas Ill just get out and manualy lock the hubs so I dont need vacuum sucking mud and water in, but for trails or rocks I can stay inside. My favorite thing about these is that there are no moving parts inside like the old style, these are just like normal manual hubs but with a diaphram behind the dial. Imagine sitting in traffic having to piss real bad, pull the shifter, flip a switch, put the front tires against the divider, get the valves floating, dump the clutch, hop the divider, shift back to 2wd and unlock the hubs. All without getting out and locking the hubs like a homo. Or showing people what you could do with your FORD in 2wd "look chevy fag, Im still in 2wd !" I cant wait to drive my Ranger....crying

Ford carnage must be thinking about the solid Dana 55 thats in the F- 250`s as the axles neck down to dana 44 size (1.31" 30 splines) and the ruing and pinion are small (dana 50 TTB).

Doh! You got me.

Prior to 02, all SD's except duallies had D50's.... There is no such thing as a D55... Dump a SD D50 BOM into the Dana expert if you don't believe me...

well it may not technicaly be a 55. People around here call it a 55, maby only, to not confuse it with a 50 ttb, dont know where it came from, but I have a habit of using it myself. I dont think there is such a thing as pumpkins under trucks either or for that matter was there even such a thing as a Super Duty between 1998 and 2002 then? I we get technical I would say any fullsize with widened toyota axles under it wouldnt realy be a Super Duty type vehicle

Well, the Super Duty 50 is quite a bit beefier than a Toyota axle... My wallet will attest to that after having done the ball joints and in the one I had(was a '00 250) It's a D60 in all but the R&P, carrier and inner axles, outers and U-joints are all 60 stuff.
There was no Super Duty 4x4 out of the factory before 1999... Trivial fact, but, there was no 1998 F250HD or F350....

Check out www.thedieselstop.com if you want good info from guys that work on the older PSD's daily.

From what I have heard the 99-02 (except dually) is a Dana 50 center section with Dana 60 size knuckles.

Don't know where you're located but I know a guy in Denver CO that has 4 or 5 pre 99 Dana 60's in Stock right now.

I can get his number for you if you are interested, also check out the for sale page on thedieselstop, might find what you need.


Tyson

well it may not technicaly be a 55. People around here call it a 55,
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Must be a metric thing. :flipoff2:

Thanks for all the replies and help to all! I really wanted a 95-97 F-350, but to find one that had been babied, I fell short and settled for my 96 F-250 Pwrstrk. Its a super truck, no complaints other than the ttb. I want to lift it 4 inches and everything that I've found has shown problems with lifted ttbs. Not bashing the axle, I just believe the less moving parts the better. Thank you to wheelin66bronco for the http://www.dieselsite.com info. I've already purchased a bunch of products from these guys...a must site to bookmark for anyone with a Powerstroke!! Wheelin, I'm located in Iowa, but drive quite often through denver. Any info you or anyone else has on where to get a good pre 1999 dana from at a reasonable cost let me know.
Again Thanks!

1996 F-250 Powerstroke TS perf chip, k/n intake, 4" straight pipe, full autometers, work in progress......

black smoke why dont you just get the correct axle for your truck? 86-91 was king pin and will bolt right in.92 - 97 is ball joint and will bolt right in. Dont know where you are but there are plenty around here. I have one in the garage right now and at least 1 more down the road.

black smoke why dont you just get the correct axle for your truck? 86-91 was king pin and will bolt right in.92 - 97 is ball joint and will bolt right in. Dont know where you are but there are plenty around here. I have one in the garage right now and at least 1 more down the road.
Fuzzynuts, I do want to get the correct axle for my truck, but there are none near me. There are a few superduty one tons locally, so that is why I asked about those. If I had the right one near me, I wouldn't probably be here on this message board asking about it. I was hoping some of you guys could help me out on locating a good one. Thanks

Check the vendors forum, HighHonda usually has a few.

There was no Super Duty 4x4 out of the factory before 1999... .
There wasn't ?........that's funny I have 2, 95' F350's.......Says Super Duty :confused:

Highhonda usually has cheby 60's

you didnt catch what I meant. I was making fun of the 99-02 F250`s that have axle shafts the same size as a Toyota

Prior to 99, the Super Duty was a model, as in F-SuperDuty, also baged as the F450, leaf sprung solid front 2wd, 10 lug wheels, 4 wheel discs, cab and chassis dually only.
I've seen lots of Heavy Duty badged 92-97 F250's and 350's, but never one baged Super Duty.

As for all this axles shafts no stronger than a toyota shit... I've yet to see a SD break a 50 axle... I have seen the pinion twisted off though...

Thanks for the help guys. I got ahold of highonda, and he has a 96 dana60 that depending on what the pictures look like, will be what replaces my ttb. Ahhh, finally making progress on getting my rig off the ground.
1996 F-250 Powerstroke TS perf chip, k/n intake, 4" straight pipe, full autometers, work in progress......

I've seen lots of Heavy Duty badged 92-97 F250's and 350's, but never one baged Super Duty.


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I think he means from the factory :flipoff2:

:confused: The Badges Are factory.........

Sure, they're Ford badges for sure, but, unless that truck started life as a 2wd with 10 lug wheels, duals in the rear, and a looong ass wheelbase, it ain't factory installed. Cab and chassis F350's still got badged as F350's,

Sure, they're Ford badges for sure, but, unless that truck started life as a 2wd with 10 lug wheels, duals in the rear, and a looong ass wheelbase, it ain't factory installed. Cab and chassis F350's still got badged as F350's,

Gottcha.......I bought the cab from Ford, it was a test dummy. Badges were already on it.

That's prolly why my other 95' F-350 has the F-350 badge and not F-SD, though that one started out life as a dually longbox w/diesel

Learn somthin new everyday........ :)

Nice... I wish I was in a location where I could get parts like that...

mines got superduty on it too, I bought the entire front clip, doors and box from a wreaker,. Regular long box. 1997 or maby 96, cant remember, and I also got the frame, my truck started as a half ton now has the frame from that truck too . Could it be deisels that had SD badge, cuz my parts came frome a deisel

Diesel didn't have anything to do with it.... aside from *maybe* being the standard motor in the F450 at the time. I've never seen one with a gas engine, but the badging was for the GVW.

The F-SuperDuty/F450 of that era was 460 or diesel power only, hence diesel power being mighty common....