Sorry if this question sounds vague but this has been on my mind now that I have my project TJ and have wondered if anyone has looked into this.

Could someone give me the basics on what it would take to stretch a TJ to about the length if not a little longer than a CJ8? I'm talking chopping it in the bed, then adding in the frame and body panels so there is more room in the rear plus extended wheelbase.

What materiels would you use to make the frame and the body panels for the gap? Rather than that of course what else would need to be done rather than a new driveshaft and extensions for brakes.

Thanks! :beer:

Here's an article on one stretched like you want. http://www.extreme4x4.com/vol5num3/stretch/index.html
Also do a search on Rock Taxi, He stretched a CJ-5 and posted some pic's and info on it.

Cool thanks I'll search Rock Taxi. That article didn't give me any insight into what materials were used and what needed to be done, looking for more technical articles.

Thanks a lot though!

Sure thing. You'll definitely get more info from Rock Taxi.

I'm planning to do the same late next fall. Add about 20"s behind the the driver and in the wheel well.

Goal is to track down a Scrambler fneder flares for the rear, and YJ flares for the front.

Then, hack the hardtop. That'll be fun, but worth it.
Post pics when you're done.:D

http://www.campbellent.com/index.html
They have a pics of the TJ they did. You can e-mail them and find out how they did it.
HTH
Mike

E-mail Me
Rocktaxi is a friend of mine. i helped him stretch his....I will give you his e-mail....
Mike

There was a TJ that was stretched by Sunray I think. The guy was at the Dakota Territory Challenge last year. He stretched it in the cowl area. I like the idea of stretching the body more. My CJ2A is stretched in the hood area and makes it look out of balance. Just $.02

Erin

Originally posted by ROKN ZJ
Here's a guy that stretched a TJ:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000232

http://www.promed-systems.com/prod02.htm

I know it's not really what you want to do, but it could help.

Hal

I have followed this guys rig... and read other post he has responded too. It appears he is a humble MASTER at craftmanship with experince in building 200mh fast cars. I think he is an engineer in aerospace or something. His rig is awsome.

they're not done with the body work in the pics, but here's another one.
http://www.foothills4x4.com/stretchedtj.htm

http://www.foothills4x4.com/images/strtj009.jpg

Willymut
That guy lives here in dallas along with Rock Taxi....His name is richard Strellar..i might be able to get a picture of it. if you guys need it.....it is wild looking....
Mike

I saw a guy in Farmington last year that had lengthen his TJ forward. He added another cowling in front of the windshield, and streched the frame. The TJ was red and had a LT-1. I think he was from TX. Sorry NO PIC.

AEV Conversions (http://aev-conversions.com/gallery.html) stretches TJs to 104" or 112" wheelbase. Might call them and see if you can pick their brain.

Originally posted by crazy8
Here is a pic of my nearly complete tj stretch...was going to do the AEV thing, but took it to BOB ROGGY ENTERPRISES. He is a good guy and a fabricator without equal.

Yep, I took Bob some parts and was checking it out...Bob is a genius at fab work. Your TJ is a work of art.

http://islamabadjeeps.com/misc/DSC01209.jpg
A CJ5 extended here in Pakistan

Originally posted by crazy8
Here is a pic of my nearly complete tj stretch...was going to do the AEV thing, but took it to BOB ROGGY ENTERPRISES. He is a good guy and a fabricator without equal.

hehe, I was going to post that picture you just sent me! (After I asked you that is)

Goal is to track down a Scrambler fneder flares for the rear, and YJ flares for the front.

what does a Scrambler rear flare look like. is it longer or something. I dont recall a Scranbler flare any different than any other CJ. have I been sleeping?

Originally posted by TJ
I saw a guy in Farmington last year that had lengthen his TJ forward. He added another cowling in front of the windshield, and streched the frame. The TJ was red and had a LT-1. I think he was from TX. Sorry NO PIC.

Saw that dude at last years palo duro challenge... It was pretty crazy looking. He rolled it forwards the second day and almost completely crushed his cage... It wasnt much more than a stock setup w/ front cage added, not enough to support it in a rollover especially with 60's and 42's . :rolleyes: Other than that it was badass

Do you have to stretch the body if you want to extend a TJ to 100" or can you do this just by doing a lil' cutting in the rear fenders?

Originally posted by Brien
Do you have to stretch the body if you want to extend a TJ to 100" or can you do this just by doing a lil' cutting in the rear fenders?
Just a little tiny bit of cutting will suffice ;) :p
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02096.JPG
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02099.JPG
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02098.JPG

OK here is a stretched TJ, that a freind of mine did in SC.

This is how is started.
http://srv.cj-8.com/projecttj/album/images/p-side1.jpg

Here it is done
http://srv.cj-8.com/projecttj/final1/Image02.jpg

http://srv.cj-8.com/projecttj/final1/Image06.jpg

In this pic you can see the custom soft top .
http://srv.cj-8.com/projecttj/final1/Image08.jpg


Here you can see how much he cut and stretched it.
http://srv.cj-8.com/projecttj/album/images/p-cut1.jpg


If you want more info contact Matt at : http://www.cj-8.com

Ken C

Originally posted by RightPedal

Just a little tiny bit of cutting will suffice ;) :p
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02096.JPG
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02099.JPG
http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/4xadventure/DCP02098.JPG


Does that thing still fit on an 83" wide trailer? I'm worried mine wont fit after I swap some full width D60s. I know it will all come down to backspacing and brakes.

That TJ's stretch approach is pretty similar to the way I stretched mine.

I'll save the bandwidth. Check out my websites

www.rocktaxi.com

www.blacksheep4x4.com

Ed

Originally posted by Blame Canada
Goal is to track down a Scrambler fneder flares for the rear, and YJ flares for the front.

Don't bother. The TJ fender openings are larger than either of these flares will cover.

Most of the TJ stretches I have seen were in front of the firewall. This makes room for LT1 with plenty of working room. I am sure there is a company making the Cowl sheetmetal extensions just like they do for the CJ. Contact Sunray Engineering in Weatherford, TX.

Someone makes cowl extension sheetmetal? Details please.

Ed

The stretched rigs I see around here are spliced behind the doorwell ...

Yes Ed.
There is a company that makes cowl extensions. We make them here and weld them too the cowl. Mine got finished this week while I was in Cruces. If any want to see pictures of the TJ we built stretched in the front check out the web site, we also just finished a CJ stretched the same way, pics to be on the site this week.
Ed, did you get your new motor running yet?
Lance Gilbert
www.SunrayEngineering.com

Cool Lance, I need to talk to you about those cowls. :)

No, no damn luck on the motor. Idles fine, nothing else. I sent you a download of some run data from the ECM, but could see nothing grossly out of whack. Did you not get the data?

Looks like I am going to need more help. I am going to rework the distributor (the big problem with poor idle earlier in the project) and if no dice, it might just be time to "Sunray-It".

Ed

Very nice, Lance!

http://www.sunrayengineering.com/images/moab02-7sm.jpg

More of the Sunray TJ

http://www.fifthgearonline.com/dtc/P1010045.jpg

Any one wanting to see this same treatment applied to a CJ check out "P III" in the projects section of our site, new pics up today.
Lance Gilbert
www.SunrayEngineering.com

Did anyone get a price on the cowl?

I wheeled with the red one in Clayton, that is a tricked out jeep. The nice thing about the strech on that ride is you don't have to modify the soft top or hard top, not to mention the extra room under the hood for more horses!

Looks good....but..... i think when I stretch mine I'll just move the front axle forwards, flatfender the front, move the rear axle back, then chop the rear from the top of the wheelwell back. Seen it dont before, looks good, and you can't beat the approach angle gain.

Originally posted by Outshined
Looks good....but..... i think when I stretch mine I'll just move the front axle forwards, flatfender the front, move the rear axle back, then chop the rear from the top of the wheelwell back. Seen it dont before, looks good, and you can't beat the approach angle gain.

front like THIS (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209331&highlight=stretch+TJ)? :D

Originally posted by P&T Jeeps


what does a Scrambler rear flare look like. is it longer or something. I dont recall a Scranbler flare any different than any other CJ. have I been sleeping?

The scrambler rear flares look like yj rear flares, sorta squared of. Where as the cj5 and 7 are rounded.

Originally posted by P&T Jeeps


front like THIS (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209331&highlight=stretch+TJ)? :D

Yep, exactly like that. I'll do it eventually, as soon as I have the money to make it trail duty only and I find a RC 60 :) Also going to move the gas tank straight up and locate the rear axle far enough back that there's zero overhang.

Originally posted by Outshined
Yep, exactly like that. I'll do it eventually, as soon as I have the money to make it trail duty only and I find a RC 60 :) Also going to move the gas tank straight up and locate the rear axle far enough back that there's zero overhang.

that's exactly my next mod, except I'm gonna build a custom fuel cell, as I don't need all of the volume in the stock tank & don't want to lose too much cargo space. once I get all of that tweaked out the D60's go under... :D