: Goodyear MTR vs BFG Mud ta?


stapleton
02-22-2002, 08:40 AM
I am looking to replace the tires I am running. I am trying to decide between the BFG and the Goodyears. Has anyone run both? Whats your opinions of each? Remember this is my daily driver F-150 running 35's not my Jeeps that see mostly off road. I primarily run rain, snow and mud with this truck. I can buy the tires for the same price so I am looking for the better of the two.

offroadr35
02-22-2002, 08:49 AM
i've run both but had the old style BFGs (not sure what the difference is). I run MTRs on my daily driver and really like them. Offroad they are much better than the BFGs and onroad i never had a problem with either. If they're the same price go with the MTRs.

-Steve

2Dogs
02-22-2002, 08:54 AM
I like my MTRs on the road but they really shine offroad!

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Rerard
02-22-2002, 09:04 AM
I have heard nothing but good about the MTR's... go for it if they are the same price.

Archie_G
02-22-2002, 09:16 AM
I have heard that you can get MTR's from Sears and for an extra $7 get roadhazard coverage. Just a thought.

mtadams
02-22-2002, 09:48 AM
I would go MTRs over the BFG MTs... but I think the MTs are probably a harder rubber compound, and may be better for purely a street tire.

-Matt

1MutCJ7
02-22-2002, 04:35 PM
I've wheeled both in the snow and rocks. The MT/R's spank the BFG's (the old ones, but the new ones don't look that much better).

Oh, and they drive well on road too.

tZUKnami
02-22-2002, 05:11 PM
I sold my BFG's (even though I loved them) to get some MTR's. Extremely glad I did. Better everywhere, and look a lot better.

Shawnboy
02-22-2002, 05:55 PM
I run the new BFG M/T KMs. Let's see, I've flipped and rolled one truck, and just today I got stuck balls deep in the mud. Could be the tires or it could be the driver. Either way, they are not a good tire where icy conditions exist.Lots of snow here and have had some difficulty with the BFGs in situations that did not warrant the conditions. After reading the other posts, I will try the GoodYears.

willymutt
02-22-2002, 08:10 PM
I traded my BFGs for MT/Rs. That has to be the best deal I have ever made. They are great on and off road. If I could swing it I would put them on my pickup too, but I would need to get new rims and all. Oh well.

Erin

jp008
02-22-2002, 08:45 PM
MT/R's


I have never owned a better tire. No complaints on or off-road.

stapleton
02-23-2002, 06:08 AM
Thanks guys! I guess that I will be oredering the Goodyears. Anything has to be better than the ProComp's I am running now.

MillerMan
02-23-2002, 07:35 AM
MT/R Tires are quite soft. Buddy of mine ran them on a 97 TJ for 2 years. It is his daily driver. Loved them off-Road but they didn't last 25,000 miles. He rotated them twice and ran 28lbs of air. I had BF-G's on a full size Chevy (33's) and I sold the truck with 40,000+ miles on it and they will last the guy another 5,000-10,000 easy! So, I am by no means bashing the MT/R, Greg loved them off-Road, but if this is a Daily driver reconsider. they might be close to the same price now but on a fullsize daily driver, 25,000 miles from now the MT/R's might not have been so cheap after all!!!

Just My $.02 Take It For what It Is worth!

:beer: :beer: :beer:

TNToy
02-23-2002, 09:38 PM
This is one of my 33" MT/Rs... it has 20,000 miles on it with a DD w/ a rear locker. It's 2 years old...
<img src="http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/mtrs/mtr03.jpg">

kwrangln
02-23-2002, 11:07 PM
Got my MT/R's 2 days ago, cant wait to mount em. I've been running BFG MT's for the last 7 years and have no complaints at all, put em through hell, but its time for a change. tirerack (www.tirerack.com) has 35/12.5/15's for $156 a tire. 4 Wheel Parts didnt want to even price match since that is only $6 over what they pay for em. Cant wait to beat on these tires to see if they are worth all the hype.

CheaseMuddin
02-25-2002, 07:42 PM
The wetter (more mud) the conditions, the better the BFG's do in comparison to the MTRs. I own the BFG KMs now and wish I had gone for the MTRs.

RobTB
02-25-2002, 08:25 PM
I have heard nothing but good things about these tires. I sure know which ones i am going to buy once my SAS is done. The MTR's of course. I can get a good price at central $160 a tire for 35's and i live next to a store that stocks them so i dont have to pay shipping.

camo
02-25-2002, 08:40 PM
let it be know that i think they suck on my wifes expedition. i am switching back to the bfg

jslamerman
02-25-2002, 08:45 PM
In what way, tire wear????

camo
02-25-2002, 08:51 PM
no i never expect long wear from a mt style tire.


they have aprox 1/2 tread depth left and the howl so bad i am throwing them away. i have had to get them rebalanced twice in 15k miles. and yes they have been rotated and inflated correctly from day one.

Lance
02-25-2002, 08:53 PM
an interesting tidbit for you all...

I've run MTR's on my rig (37 x 12.50's :p ) and I loved them. In fact I will have a new set of them for CalROCS next month. This weekend we ran the ProROCKS event down at Johnson Valley in a new vehicle that had metric MTR's (16" rim, 35" equivalent). I didn't think anything of it at first. After running a couple of obstacles, I noticed that the tires were not "biting" like Im used to seeing an MTR do on rock. The tires were not holding their line very well @ 7p.s.i. (plenty low enough for a radial MTR) Then John Currie pointed out that our tires were "D" load rated tires vs. the normal "C" loal rating of the non-metric MTR's. Our conclusion was/is that the metric "D" load MTR's do NOT work as well as the "C" load tires presumeably because of a stiffer tread and sidewall.

camo
02-25-2002, 08:57 PM
things that make ya go hhhmmmmm

also gotta keep in mind when watching the top ten arca guys who run mtr that they have special soft compounds that really hook up.

camo
02-25-2002, 09:01 PM
lance:

if you were buying a trail tire from your own hard earned cash at normal prices would you even consider a MTR?

Lance
02-25-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by camo
lance:

if you were buying a trail tire from your own hard earned cash at normal prices would you even consider a MTR?

Are you talking about a 37" MTR @ $400 each? If so, HELL NO. I'd get a 38" SX. But it's not who you know, it's who you blow. :D:flipoff2::D:flipoff2:

camo
02-25-2002, 09:06 PM
ok just making sure you didn't fall off your rocker. i can get em at competior prices and even so i like the sx better. if i was competing i would run em just because. but sence i am :rainbow: and don't compete in my rig.........................

Ryan
02-25-2002, 09:29 PM
Okay, so here's an obvious question that I'll go ahead and ask(at the risk of looking as stupid as I am). Are all 37" MT/R's a softer compound? I mean they aren't making special compound MT/R's just for competitors, right?

And another question, supposedly the 37" BFG's are a softer compound as well, and I guess same question as above about them.

I called BFG for contingency tire prices today, and the yahoo on the other end of line didn't know jack. I guess I could get off my butt(or ON my butt) and e-mail them if nobody knows off-hand.

Ramsey Offroad
02-28-2002, 11:19 AM
Dude,
The MTR's rock!

kidwired
11-29-2002, 09:20 PM
aaarrgghhh I hate this!!

yea yea SX's rule...if you dont have em on a DD. Camo, do you think the weight of the vehicle had anything to do w/ it?

Lance, which tire would you run on your DD that you also wheeled in rocks and snow if you were pimping your ass to pay for them?

I'm scraping together the funds for new rubber and gotta decide.
35x12x15
mtr $680
bfg mt $640
tsl (bias) $700
tsl trxus $610

Shrock
11-29-2002, 10:19 PM
I havent run BFG's MT's on a DD in many years, so I cant really compare directly, but I can tell you about my MT/Rs on my Trooper DD/tow rig/wheeler mix.

They were great at first, then got damn loud after about 6mo. Balance and rotate and they were OK for about another 6mo. Since then nothing would quiet them down. They were loud enough that it was hard to talk on my cell phone.

Back to BFG AT's on the DD for me.

kidwired
11-29-2002, 10:30 PM
I'm runnin TSL SSR's on my jeep now ANYTHING would be an improvment. you can even hear the radio unless you stop. :shrug:
nosie not an issue more concerned about longevity on street and performance/sidewall offroad.

4x4junkie
11-30-2002, 01:41 AM
Well, seeings how someone revived this old dead ancient thread, I guess I'll say the MT/R is a bit better offroad than the BFG MT, but with the squirmy tread blocks, faster wear and the fact these MT/Rs like to spin on the dammed rims when aired down even just slightly (prevents keeping them balanced), I think these problems outweigh the offroad advantage on a daily driver.
The difference offroad is not dramatic, anyway. They're both great tires.
I think I may go back to my trusty ol' BFG MTs.:flipoff2:

tansloth
11-30-2002, 02:09 AM
my .2 cents

bfg last longer

mtr grip better

GRMhick
11-30-2002, 05:02 AM
i have been trying to wear down my BFG mt's to replace them with MTR's, but cant do it. I already have 40k on them, and they still have a decent amount of tread on them (this is on a 5,500 lb ram too). I know i wont get the same milage out of the goodyears, but it is just downright scarry with the bfg's in the rain. Last rain storm i drove from LA to San jose, and the day i was up in san jose, i almost got a new set of AT's, because of their crappy rain skills. But it was dry, and the tires work GREAT on dry pavment.. so they still are there.
Only complaint i have had to date with my 33" BFG's, is the rain, they pretty much work great for my daily driver everywhere else.


Garrett

godzuki
11-30-2002, 05:24 AM
they are both ok for allterains if you want a mud tire get a swamper.the one the only.:flipoff2:

DutchTJ
12-01-2002, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Hick
i have been trying to wear down my BFG mt's to replace them with MTR's, but cant do it. ..........

Garrett

just go playing in the rocks .... you don't have to wear them down ..... .they will slash side walls like a knife will slide through butter :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Get the MT/R's if rockcrawling is your thing ..... get the MT's if mudding is the main 'concern' :D

TuffTruck
12-01-2002, 10:03 PM
OK I have run both BFG is by far the a better tire had MTR had nothing but trouble would not hook up any were BFG did much better except in the snow but all tires suck in the snow except Swampers. I love Swamper its worth the noise and crappy on road manners bud I do alot of hunting, fishing, wheeling and by far the Swampers out perform MTRs BFGs Procomps hands down dont care as long as its baise ply it good for me except square tires on cold mornings buddy on his DD got 35000 on his Swampers but about 5000 left getting pretty bald.

Old Scout
12-01-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
Are all 37" MT/R's a softer compound? I mean they aren't making special compound MT/R's just for competitors, right?


I was told that if they have white letters on one side there NOT the softer compound.

Po' riggity
12-01-2002, 10:35 PM
Ive run the old style BFG, and a set of MTR's on the same jeep, iin the same wheeling conditions, and I'll just say that I went everywhere on my BFG's that I do on my MTR's. And as far as on road mileage, the guy earlier in this thread that commented on his buddies MTR's on his TJ not lasting long, Id say it had something to do with his pressure/rotation. Ive got about 20k on my 35" MTR's, and they have about 70% tread left. Id be willing to bet I get 50 k out of them. With all that said, my next tires gonna be a swamper :flipoff2: But then again, Im at that stage with my rig, that Im trying different tires in the type of terrain I wheel to see what works best.
Scott

GRMhick
12-02-2002, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by DutchTJ


just go playing in the rocks .... you don't have to wear them down ..... .they will slash side walls like a knife will slide through butter :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Get the MT/R's if rockcrawling is your thing ..... get the MT's if mudding is the main 'concern' :D


yeah, i would, if it wernt my daily driver. I just leave muds on it so that when i hit some mud, i dont get stuck (got real tired of that with AT's), and also, the most rock this truck sees, is what granite is on overgown fire roads on my way to remote fishing spots- In other words, not a hardcore wheeling rig.