: what rear leaves to use for good flex


Alfred
02-23-2002, 07:53 AM
hi there,

i have a pretty "standard" sami (31", 4.16, rears upfront, spoa, LRight)

... and i am out in the market for *rear* leaves... what are you guys running for gooooood flexx???


as i run rears in the front also, i will go with m/l or DLS... but only in front ... any opinions on that?

thx
alfred :beer:

Rockrat
02-23-2002, 08:15 AM
YJ spring's all the way round cant go wrong I also run dls all 4 corners but since The S/R they'll be comin off the front .

jp008
02-23-2002, 09:03 AM
A friend of mine is running CJ front springs in the rear and he does very well in Moab. He also has the rear (sami springs) up front. I think the years you want to use are 74-86.

lilzeus
02-23-2002, 04:34 PM
I second the YJ vote.

squirrelman83
02-23-2002, 04:38 PM
I love my YJ springs. I got the conversion kit from Trail Tough and was very statisfied with the quality and easy install. I recommend them 100%. Brent, the owner, is a great, knowledgable guy.

Here's a couple pozer shots (still have flex to go):

http://a0.cpimg.com/image/C4/9A/8782020-ec40-028001E0-.jpg

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/3C/96/8766012-78f1-028001AA-.jpg

Good luck. ~Steve

Gozuki
02-23-2002, 04:49 PM
YJs kick ass!

Alfred
02-24-2002, 06:49 AM
so would that be YJ rears for the rear or YJ fronts for the sami rear?

thx
alfred

Rockrat
02-24-2002, 07:02 AM
realy doesnt matter I have YJ front packs on the rear and Rear's on the front It just happened I did the rear first and when I went to do the front I took what I could get they work the same allthough some people prefer the 5pack over the 4 help keep down the axle wrap

squirrelman83
02-24-2002, 09:43 AM
Rockrat is right, it doesn't matter. Front and rear YJ's are the same length, but they have a different number of leaves. I have 5-leaf packs all the way around and love 'em. ~Steve

ROCKILLER
02-24-2002, 11:48 AM
I have 2.5" YJ fronts all around and I love em but if you only want to do the YJ's in the rear I's wortj it. I have the YJ's with revolvers and I couldnt ask for more, except for maybe a trction bar to keep down the axle wrap.

zuk88
02-24-2002, 03:10 PM
YJ's with Brent's kit. I'd recommend 5 or more leafs if you use stock springs.

Rockrat
02-24-2002, 06:08 PM
I have 2.5" YJ fronts all around and I love em but if you only want to do the YJ's in the rear I's wortj it. I have the YJ's with revolvers and I couldnt ask for more, except for maybe a trction bar to keep down the axle wrap.

I was cureuos about the lifted springs how do they flex compared to a stock:emb:

Tusker
02-26-2002, 12:27 PM
I had a pair of CJ springs from JC Whitney and found them to be VERY stiff. I would recommend YJ's for the rear. I now have six-leaf front YJ's and five leaf rears. They YJ's flex like mad. I can get over a 36-inch obstacle without lifting a tire now :D . The front flex is about the same as with the rears up front and missing links, but the rear flexs much better than it did with the CJ springs.

moto261
02-27-2002, 09:50 AM
two wheel drive mazda sprinds they fles like shit :)
and so do the toyata springs :) just my 2
im running 2.5 lift yj in the front and coils in the rear



dan:massey:

Kingpin
02-28-2002, 03:22 PM
Hey guys i have a set of yj springs that iam going to put in to my truck was wondering how much more lift it will give it. also have most of you used a shackle reversal or fabbed up new spring mounts ?? thanks
Tim

Rockrat
02-28-2002, 03:33 PM
cant speak for everyone but fabed my own S/R and rear brackets
as far as how much lift maybe an inch I really never measuerd before and after had rears up front before and I no its taller now
with the YJ's

squirrelman83
02-28-2002, 06:33 PM
I measured the front of my Samurai before and after the YJ swap. It was about an inch taller than it was before the swap, when it had a Calmini shackle reverse and stock springs. I forgot to measure the rear, though. I would say it sits an inch or two higher, though.
As for mounts, I bought, and would HIGHLY recommend, the Trail Tough YJ spring conversion kit. Top quality and easy to install. Customer service is also outstanding! www.trailtough.com Good luck. ~Steve

zukiman
03-01-2002, 12:57 AM
YJ springs at all 4 corners! That's the only way to go....

I have stock 6-cyl. YJ 5-pack springs up front, and some custom combination 6-pack YJ springs in back, which seems to balance out my ass-heavy Samurai (hardtop with lots of gear mounted in back) and makes spring wrap a non-issue. Here's a picture of my Samurai's flex.

http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/reviews/images/cssusflex02.jpg

Kingpin
03-01-2002, 07:02 AM
Thanks for the help !
:beer:

Rocky Road
03-02-2002, 04:21 PM
First off..... that ramp looks way spooky!

The CJ springs are a very popular rear addon since they are the same width as the Samurai and can be installed inexpensively and easily.

The years you would want to scavenge from are 1976+ CJ (any model).

If you have any questions on the CJ spring swap in the rear, feel free to email us. We've done hundreds of them in this fashion.

Rlester
03-02-2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Rocky Road
First off..... that ramp looks way spooky!

The CJ springs are a very popular rear addon since they are the same width as the Samurai and can be installed inexpensively and easily.

The years you would want to scavenge from are 1976+ CJ (any model).

If you have any questions on the CJ spring swap in the rear, feel free to email us. We've done hundreds of them in this fashion.

Glenn, What about CJ's in the front?? I am running the CJ's in the rear and the sami rears up front. I was wondering if CJ's up front would be any better than the sami's rears:confused:

Azrckcrawler
03-03-2002, 08:54 AM
Here's a shot from yesterday's run showing what YJ's and a simple missing link will do.

http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/2-02lmorningstar/Dscn0118.jpg

spencurai
03-05-2002, 09:29 PM
i just did my cj springs in the rear last week. they lengthened my wheelbase by almost 3 inches it was a great mod. i did have to throw on a longer shaft and rethink my shock mounting locations but i love them. ohh and dont forget the missing link style shackles they make the whole shabang work. dont leave home without them. hey the price was right too, the springs were free from a generous local club member, they were rusting into his driveway so he decided to give them to me!!! yipee, now i have to find an hour or so to bolt the rears up front and i am off to the races!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: http--www.rockymountainextreme.com-attachment.phps=3c3ba322798c7d88a6f8c5e8a63b2d16&postid=2511

StomperZUK
03-06-2002, 12:08 AM
I've been running the CJ springs on all four corners for a couple of years now. Flex's very well, ~830something+ :rolleyes: on a 30* ramp. Not too difficult to make them work on the front, actually much easier than the YJ's to get on. Relocate the rear hanger and use missing link type shackles...

Some specific spring info that my be of some use or interest...

76-86 front CJ springs ~44" eye to eye, centered pin, 2" wide

YJ/rearCJ springs ~ 45" e-e, centered, 2.5"w

SJ-old cherokee/wagoneer fronts ~ 47"e-e, ~22.5"&24.5" pin offset, 2.5"w

XJ cherokee ~51" e-e, ~22.5"&28.5" pin offset, 2.5"w

Yota FJ60 LC ~ 57"e-e, ~25"&32" pin offset, 2.5"w

fatkid
03-06-2002, 12:19 AM
Damn, you guys have some crazy,mad,gay,sick, wack, tricknasty, stupid, freeky flex Yo!

Azrckcrawler
03-06-2002, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by fatkid
Damn, you guys have some crazy,mad,gay,sick, wack, tricknasty, stupid, freeky flex Yo!

Word :massey:

scwafish
03-06-2002, 06:53 AM
to yo' mutha! Chris and Geoff are making feel good about being lazy and skipping coils. Impressive.

mudlite
03-06-2002, 06:54 AM
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CJ7 front pack in the rear w/ 21" goofie. TJ coils upfront with Ford radius arms, Passenger side wristed. Waggy axles, and 38's.

billjohn
03-06-2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Rlester


Glenn, What about CJ's in the front?? I am running the CJ's in the rear and the sami rears up front. I was wondering if CJ's up front would be any better than the sami's rears:confused:

Using a combination of Glenn's kits... check out:
http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/reviews/rrogolong.htm
:D