I'd like to run Toy axles, but I really wanna keep my wheels (cuz they were so damn expensive). Does anyone redrill the 6 lug to 5x5.5, or could it even be done? Thanks. ~Steve

I have my axles but they havent been dropped off yet I will definatly look at that option cause I dont want to have to purchace new rims either .

For the rear, you can try and find a 2WD toy axle. They were 5-lug from the factory. Pretty sure it was a 5.5 bolt circle, too.

Uses the same 8" diff as the 4WD, but the parking brake mechansims were really goofy. I'm thinking that they're the same width, but don't know for sure.

There was something in General 4x4 that said something about 2wd axles, but I think it said they weren't as strong as 4wd's (not 30 spline axles). Plus it said they are 5x4.5. :( ~Steve

V-6 2wd axle same strength, same spline but it is 5-4.5 thought about it but still doesn't solve buying new rims

check out some of the ricer/mini truck sites. i remember when i had my mitsubishi that one of the sites had these conversion plate things, where you could change the lug patterns. dunno how good they would stand up to wheeling or if they are remotely safe, but it might be worth looking into.

You could have an adapter plate made at your local machine shop !

how exactly does that work? I mean, do you redrill the flanges? or do you get a spacer that bolts to the flanges? Pics? Has someone actually done this?!!

Maybe simplify your life, and sell your sammi wheels to a fellow zuker, and buy 6 lug toy wheels. Toy wheels are easy to find used, and cheep. Plus chev 6 lug is the same, lotsa chev wheels out there!

Just my 2 pesos, I'd rather get new wheels than run some hoky converters, but that's just me. :D

point taken but I no for me I would like to keep the custom 2" offset wheel I already have if possible

Do you need the offset with the wider toy axles? I suppose it doesn't hurt any...

I would not recommend using the 2wd toy axle, unless it looks to be as strong as the 4wd rear. Most of them that I have seen have pretty dinky tubes, and don't look very stout. AFAIK, you could get the drums redrilled, but up front may be a different story.

Originally posted by Rockrat
point taken but I no for me I would like to keep the custom 2" offset wheel I already have if possible

You can run standard 3.75" backspaced Toy rims and be within a half an inch of a Zuk (w/ stock axles) with 2" backspaced rims. But if I had to do it again I would just get the 2" backspaced rims for the Toy to start with, wider is better :) With my wheelspacers I have the equivalent of a 2.25" backspacing.

I would not recommend using the 2wd toy axle, unless it looks to be as strong as the 4wd rear. Most of them that I have seen have pretty dinky tubes, and don't look very stout. AFAIK, you could get the drums redrilled, but up front may be a different story.

V-6 toy 2wd axles are the same axle just different bolt pattern there 5 on 4.5

Originally posted by dangerber
Maybe simplify your life, and sell your sammi wheels to a fellow zuker, and buy 6 lug toy wheels. Toy wheels are easy to find used, and cheep. Plus chev 6 lug is the same, lotsa chev wheels out there!

Just my 2 pesos, I'd rather get new wheels than run some hoky converters, but that's just me. :D

I run MRT beadlocks. If I could sell them for close to what I bought them for, sure, but I know I won't be able to get anything close to what I payed for them. And then, to have to go special order new beadlocks with 2" backspacing... :eek: . I've considered sell 'em, but I would lose way too much money. ~Steve

re drilling the rear and doing some sort of disk brake swap may be possible but the front is where the real fun will begin.Wonder if you could adapt the spindles to sami stuff or something. But in the end New wheels are probably the less expensive and less mickeymouse way to go.

i was thinkin the same thing about 1.5 months ago, and i came up with a spacer/adapter design, i tried to go as thin as possible, but even that design isn't that strong for wheelin on rocks. so just save up the $$ and make yer sammi buddies know you got the 6 lug-super axles under yer rig.
-justin

Everyone is focused on "if" the toy axles could be re-drilled to the stock Samurai wheel lug pattern. I can tell you this : sure, it could be done, at a cost of no less than $200 + shipping two ways (I'd guess) The patterns do not clear each other - that is, one of the lugs overlaps unevenly when you lay one pattern on top of the other. The correct solution would be to have all the 6-lug holes plugged/filled, then have the new pattern drilled.

The question is:
Which would cost more?
Selling your wheels with depreciation, and buying some more that do not have to be offset (cheaper)
-or-
Going through the cost, hassle, and down-time of changing the pattern on the 2 rear axles + 2 front hubs.

I would not consider running an adapter of any type, but that's only my opinion.:barf:

What do think of these babies? *Bling*Bling...
Now all I need is the time to put them on.:)

I still believe it is cheaper and way less hassle to just get 6 lug wheels. You can even find used 6 lug beadlocks around. And, you wouldn't need the fancy offset, so they would be off-the-shelf toy wheels(cheap) as oilburner pointed out.

Yeah, guess I never thought about how much it would be to redrill the axles and everything. Guess I'll just wait till I need new tires, sell my beadlocks with the current tires, buy new 6 lug wheels (maybe beadlocks again), and do the axle swap all at the same time. Reasoning for doing it all at once is the cost of mounting/balancing the beadlocks; our local shop (the only guys who do it) charge 2 labor hours (about $140) to mount/balance beadlocks. :eek: Only time will tell. Thanks, guys. ~Steve

Fatty always flaunting his wealth!...........:D

Don't know if it will help but look at this page...
http://caraddons.com/Catalog/subpages/Wheels/custom_wheels_a-dapt-it.htm

or there 's this 5x6 spacer (http://64.49.196.9/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=316&1=359&2=-1)

http://64.49.196.9/images/products/adapters/img/adapt6-5.jpg

I took my Toyota axles to a buddy who works in a machine shop. He drilled the 6 on 5.5 to 5on 5.5. It works fine. Only problem is one bolt hole just touches the original hole. I put the stud in and tack welded in place and that worked great.

I've been beating on redrilled axles for years with NO issues. I'm running a built 44 in the front but the rear has stock shafts redrilled to 5x5.5 and I have never broke them. I was running 37 stickies also. You only need to drill 4 holes. Quick and easy!!

At least your searching.

The patterns do not clear each other - that is, one of the lugs overlaps unevenly when you lay one pattern on top of the other. The correct solution would be to have all the 6-lug holes plugged/filled, then have the new pattern drilled.




Only problem is one bolt hole just touches the original hole. I put the stud in and tack welded in place and that worked great.


Did you even read any of the original replies before you posted in a 9 year old thread...???? :shaking:

Your really on top of $hit aren't you...