: pro's and cons CJ 7 BODY LIFT


atroader
02-23-2002, 07:57 PM
Already well lifted suspension-wise. I've even installed fender flares from a TJ, but since going with full width axles I'm going with a body lift for the xtra clearance.

I'm looking at either the 2" or 3" body lift-- I know that the 2" doesnt really pose problems, but what are the problems associated with a 3" lift--
like with raised radiator, heater core, etc.
also with the length of the steering shaft, and whatever else may apply.

I'd appreciate the advice!
thanks

landusepbb
02-23-2002, 09:11 PM
3" too much. You have issues with gas hoses, steering shaft, stress on body mounts, and worst of all you start having COG issues. Take a look at most competition rigs, they are running big tires with not a mile of altitude. There is one guy that posts here, Jeff, H8Monday, that just took his body lift OFF of his competition rig because of COG and other issues.

H8monday
02-23-2002, 09:43 PM
Thats a fact, Brad.
I hate body lifts, because it is just dead weight, positioned higher. It really doesnt affect the rig to the point of rollover, but it can easily, transfer weight away from a needed uphill traction tire, durring off camber steep climbs.
I installed the body lift, to solve some fittment problems while installing the 5.0 HO engine, and had planned to remove it soon after,...but other projects kept coming to the forefront and the body lift stayed. I finally got around to removing it along with re positioning my engine and drivetrain, and although it was a shitlload of work, it was well worth it.
The Jeep feels way more sure footed, in all situations.
I would just limit my uptravel in my suspension, before I would ever use a body lift to solve clearance problems again.

You have to always remember, when building a seriouse off road rig,...."Gravity, is not your freind!"

StoopidMonkey
02-24-2002, 02:52 PM
I personally have never had problems with my 2 inch body lift on my EB, i will probably never take it off. It made getting to the bellhousing bolts, and clutch linkage very easy. It also made it so my NP435 fit better without having to cut a larger whole. Air cleaners fit now with out being squashed. Also if i put a taller motor in i probably wont have to get a hood bubble. The only downside i have is that it strecthed my gas filler hose, so now it leaks if i over fill my tank. Oh and after we put the lift on we started the motor and the fan ate the fan shroud. :D But other than that i like mine. On CJs though i think they look ugly as hell.

Cutter
02-24-2002, 03:30 PM
I had a 3" and took it off after a month, and just cut more sheetmetal off. I didn't like the looks and i've decided to get the center of balance as low as possible. I don't think there is anything wrong with running one, I just don't want to. A few of my wheelin buddy's have them...but then, they're scared of the sawzall
:D

atroader
02-24-2002, 04:27 PM
well, the sawzall is our friend, BUT, I've already used that enough in my opinion-- the only other trimming I'd consider is trimming the TJ flares I already put on. the only body lift I would consider is 2", 3 is too much and 1 is worthless.

I WANT to stay SUA.== this is a daily driver that see's occasional trail use, and I just dont have the time to work out the Soa bugs involved. i dont hardly have the time to finish the projects I've already started.
right now w/ nothing but springs and tj flares a true 35" tire will fit JUST FINE, NO RUBBING W/ FLEX. I would like to be able to run a 36x12.50 though (or at least a true 36") to help counter the no overdrive and 4.10 gears for hwy speeds.
final drivetrain will be 355, sm465, d300, d44, d60 (trimmed).

cowmooflage
02-25-2002, 04:54 AM
My body was/is so fawked up that I put a 3" body lift on just to straiten it out a bit, 3" here, 1" there, 2" here, etc...:flipoff2:

Jakesteramalamajama
02-25-2002, 05:41 AM
I'd say that like most things, they're O.K. in moderation. I have the Daystar poly mounts that add 1 inch of lift and the complications are minimal. I'd say any more than an inch is too much though...

Another 'pro' that nobody has mentioned is that a body lift makes it easier to cram a big tranny like an NV 4500 into your rig without having to drop your skid plate.

HTH,
Jake

CJ-Jeeper
02-25-2002, 01:01 PM
I also use the 1" poly lift. Not enough to cause problems, but that little extra clearance for the drivetrain & tires is nice.
Several friends have 2" w/ no problems.

RCKRATZ
02-25-2002, 01:13 PM
I have a 2 1/4" body lift that is being cut off as you read this.....way too much stress on the body imo. The more body lift you put, the worse it gets too. I would just say limit the uptravel, and run it.

mmvarsity
03-18-2003, 04:59 PM
hey landuseorc (Brad Ullrich),

What does "COG" stand for? I have a CJ7 sprung under with 4" springs and a 3" body lift. Ever since I put the body lift on, my clutch tends to stick to the floor when I depress it all the way. I can simply pop it back into gear by sticking my toe behind it and pulling up, but it gets scary sometimes when I'm climbing hills and it sticks.

Do body lifts alter the way the clutch linkage operates? If I changed from a 3" to a 2" body lift would that help?

RCKRATZ
03-18-2003, 05:02 PM
COG= Center of Gravity

CJ-Jeeper
03-18-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by mmvarsity
Do body lifts alter the way the clutch linkage operates? If I changed from a 3" to a 2" body lift would that help?

If your's is like mine, one end of the belcrank is attatched to the belhousing & the other to the body. If you have'nt modified one or both of the brackets to level out the belcrank, your linkage is f*ed up & I'm surprised it even stays together.