any one have any ProRock updates havent heard a thing, My best friend was in it this weekend he had a big ass black Jeep Wrangler on 44 TSL, I here he broke any one have any news at all? Thanks:skull:

Yeah, I saw your buddy grenade his front driveshaft. He put on a good show doing it though. In fact 4 guys in a row broke in the same spot. Then Jason Bunch walked right up it.

I saw it. Too bad I saw it because I saw it means we broke too. My friend Bob, and Jason broke right before him. Grenaded a Warn 35 spline rear full floater axle.

Lance was in second as of yesterday. spotting for the JP Off Road stock class rig. The "B" side or west? course was much harder there was a huge differeence in points between the two.

JeepMangled87,
If the black jeep on 44" TSL's is the same one Im thinking of, it was a kid driving it, and he basically got laughed off the course because he couldnt drive. Got constant heckling, and timed out on more than one course, having to back out. I think he eventually went home after he got sick of the heckling. It was all in all a decent event. Not as much carnage as Ive seen before, but some decent stuff. Tri county managed to flop over on their side, then drive it back onto its wheels and still finish the course in record time. That was cool. Not very much carnage though. Im hoping to make it to cal rocs to see more carnage the weekend after TDS :)
Scott

His spotter wasn't doing much spotting.

Just got back from ProRock this weekend. We placed 9th out of 21. Had a great time spotting for Walker Evans. Wow!

Got lots of pics, will post them tonight!

Chris, you were spotting for walker evans? I saw your truck out there, but I didnt know that was you spotting for Walker. So you're the one that picked up his headlight after it popped out of the front end, and he ran it over?? :D :D
Scott

Yep, I hate leaving trash/parts on the trails.

He lost lights on three corners, only one tail light was on the truck when it was done. The other lights were picked up and put into the trash too.

Who won?

Can't wait of the pics!!!!


later :jeep:

Originally posted by 1badjeep
JeepMangled87,
If the black jeep on 44" TSL's is the same one Im thinking of, it was a kid driving it, and he basically got laughed off the course because he couldnt drive. Got constant heckling, and timed out on more than one course, having to back out. I think he eventually went home after he got sick of the heckling.
Scott

Well put Scott, That was probably the most pathetic driver I have ever seen in my life!!! :flipoff2: It was really funny watching his all show, no go wrangler attempt all these hills and get stuck before he made it past the second gate :rolleyes: :rolleyes: then Tri-County's little beast cruise right on through with no problems.. LOL!!

Jordan/Watson First
Robbins/Luly Second
Bunch/Hastings Third

I got a call on Friday morning at Midnight from Cathy @ JP Offroad. She said they were putting the finishing touches on a brand spankin' new stock-modified aluminum bodied TJ, and wanted to know if I'd spot for her. So I hauled ass down there, and got it awn. We came in 3rd place overall. Stock-Modified is a sweet class. It's definitely much more of a challenge getting a SM rig up some of those obstacles! I had a blast....

I've never seen Chris Geiger move so quick in my life! He was bustin' his ass for Walker! :D

Dang! Did Jordan ever get off the rocks after the womans course or did he just stay there practicing day and night! :eek:

How did Jason Paule do? Didn't he rebuild both Jordans and Robins 'whatleftacruisers?

later :jeep:

Originally posted by Mieser
Dang! Did Jordan ever get off the rocks after the womans course or did he just stay there practicing day and night! :eek:

How did Jason Paule do? Didn't he rebuild both Jordans and Robins 'whatleftacruisers?

later :jeep:

Jason kicked ass on the first day but had electrical problems on the second day. I believe he came in 4th or 5th in the trophy class.

Thanks Lance

Was it Jasons nice new Ramjet 350 that was giving him all the trouble? At least he managed to get up towards the top.

later :jeep:

Originally posted by Rockbuggy


Well put Scott, That was probably the most pathetic driver I have ever seen in my life!!! :flipoff2: It was really funny watching his all show, no go wrangler attempt all these hills and get stuck before he made it past the second gate :rolleyes: :rolleyes: then Tri-County's little beast cruise right on through with no problems.. LOL!!
Yeah I was real impressed with Tri county's junk. Did real well. My favorite part was when he tipped it, then continued to drive it back onto its wheels :)
Scott

This thread needs pics...

and...

Way to go Chris....this post did need some color!

How about a pic of Paules buggy!

later :jeep:

and...

Originally posted by Mieser
Way to go Chris....this post did need some color!

How about a pic of Paules buggy!

later :jeep:

What was he driving?

It should look kinda like this....unless he changed the paint.

later :jeep:

So what are the results???

Originally posted by 66CJdean
So what are the results???

Jordan/Watson First
Robbins/Luly Second
Bunch/Hastings Third

So Chris are you going to spot for Walker at the CalROCS event? The top 3, Jordan, Robbins, and Bunch will competing at CalROCS also. Along with many more..........
Rich

Originally posted by Chris Geiger


Jordan/Watson First
Robbins/Luly Second
Bunch/Hastings Third

Only 3 people showed:flipoff2:

No Dean they had a few more.....But they did get upset that I was handing out fliers for CalROCS at there event. I said I was sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, and then I was allowed to continue. It was good to see all those who had run in the first CalROCS event and some of the new teams that will try CalROCS out this time.
Rich

Originally posted by Big Rich
So Chris are you going to spot for Walker at the CalROCS event? The top 3, Jordan, Robbins, and Bunch will competing at CalROCS also. Along with many more..........
Rich

Short Answer: I don't know.

Long Answer: Walker told me he did not know if he was going to make Calrocks, but was still thinking about it. As to spotting for him in the future, I have no idea. Walker was extremely nice to work with but I could not really tell if he felt I was a good spotter. Our first day was not great, but we did much better on the second day. Bottom line is results, we did not do as well as I had hoped to, and I am sure he was thinking the same. I am surprised how well we got along and when planning lines. We had nearly the exact same ideas. During the runs, he kept his cool even when things were not going right. He seemed to trust and listen to me. He followed my instructions even when his rig was teetering and about to roll over. He truly has no fear when driving.

It was a blast working with him, and driving a top dollar rig like his was very interesting.

I sure would like to do it again! Had a blast!

Well Chris I hope you get a call today, Phyllis said she is sending over the evntry form today.
Good Luck, see ya at CalROCS
Rich

Originally posted by Big Rich
But they did get upset that I was handing out fliers for CalROCS at there event. I said I was sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, and then I was allowed to continue.


Heheheh, yeah Hazel's a little sensitive about people promoting their events at his events. Personally, I'm happy to have people handing out fliers at my events - 'cause I'm gonna do it at theirs :D

BTW, for the spectators who are pokin' fun at the guy who "couldn't drive", well the kid did pony up the entry $ & give it a shot. That's more than most ;)

TEX

Originally posted by TEX

BTW, for the spectators who are pokin' fun at the guy who "couldn't drive", well the kid did pony up the entry $ & give it a shot. That's more than most ;)

TEX

Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't see those guys out there giving it a shot. :rolleyes:

yep ya both beat me to it...... ill be in arkansas pro rocks.... i know only one thing... i will have fun...

Does anyone have the top ten?????? Or maybe a link to a page that has them????

Originally posted by Brian E
Does anyone have the top ten?????? Or maybe a link to a page that has them????

I will post them tonight.

PLEASE!!!!! Need Pics!!!!!

Must web-wheel....... :D

yes please more pics. any body got any of the My buddy Jeep on 44's yeah maybe he couldnt drive but he just got that heep finished so he's had no time to practice. oh well he had a hell of a time I here.:smokin: :skull:

BTW, for the spectators who are pokin' fun at the guy who "couldn't drive", well the kid did pony up the entry $ & give it a shot. That's more than most ;)

I agree. That kid worked on his Jeep all night before the competion. I did not hear the other participants giving him a bad time. Just the white trash spectators. Too bad those spectators don't have balls to compete themselfs. Then again they would not have a chance in their oil burning Toyota Corola. Most of the spectators were pretty good but some were just IDIOTS.

Kevin, lance and Chris, will you be judges if we get an oil burn'n corolla class set-up. Just an Idea........
Rich

1badjeep and rockbuggy....this is the kid that couldent drive in the black show jeep...... and i didnt c u competing either one of u, and for the most part most of the spectators came up and told me good job and all of the competitors were real nice, and no i didnt go home... i attempted every obstacle there.. and i live in texas and my jeep was not built for those tight turns ill be the first to admitt it.....but my pump went out and i basically had no power steering thats why i hit the gates for the most part its kinds hard to turn 44s manualy.....but ohh well if it makes u 2 feel cool to make fun of someone more power to u..and about the tri county comment he spanked almost everybody he got 3rd... so just shut ur mouth and compete next time and c just how "easy" it is...overall i had a good time and for the next one i will be more prepared i hope so c yall at farmington:smokin:

Yep, and this is the spotter who was not spotting. HMMM, he's 18 and im 22. You guys realize this is our fist time to see or watch any Rockcrawling event, much less compete in one, but hell we drove all the way from TX to start this shit. There was not much we could do with 44's and no steering, but it was a great time and learning experience. So we hit a few cones and timed out some big freaking deal!! It was nice meeting u Lance, Chis G, and everyone else there. We'll be back and better prepped. Hey withamc, I was nervous as F#@k so :flipoff2: . Obviosly we found out bigger is not always better. So you bitches who want to sit around and talk smack, I know Bob had lots of entry spots left, where the hell were u??? Oh yea yelling at me!!!:D We had a blast! BTW we didn't get last ,and we did attempt every course. U think he drove bad in JV, wait until Arkansas!!

Originally posted by Ricktard
Hey withamc, I was nervous as F#@k so :flipoff2: . So you bitches who want to sit around and talk smack, I know Bob had lots of entry spots left, where the hell were u??? Oh yea yelling at me!!!:D
Ricktard - read my first post too:
Originally posted by Ricktard

Yeah, I saw your buddy grenade his front driveshaft. He put on a good show doing it though. In fact 4 guys in a row broke in the same spot. Then Jason Bunch walked right up it.
Take it as constructive criticism and not so much as "talking smack". Maybe you got to watch how some of the other spotters and drivers were in constant communication. Get some practice sessions in and learn how to use hand signals and work as a team.
Where was I? I was watching my first competition. My Jeeps not ready yet. I've still got high steer clearance issues to work out, and a better T-case with 4:1 gears before I'm ready. I'm looking forward to competing one of these days. For the record I was not one of the "white trash" hecklers.
Congrats for having the balls to enter and keep at it even if you were having a tough time.

I dont know but I thought you guys did real well working togerther. You know I agree totally with the comment about the hecklers therer were a bunch of them out there, I watched more than one of them as they left in their vehicles that didnt even look like they could have made it to the comp, ;et alone compete. Well anyways as for the 1badjeep well just take it for what its worth:rolleyes: . I think I got a few pictures of your rig and I will try and post them as soon as I get them developed.

Doug

Originally posted by withamc

Ricktard - read my first post too:

Take it as constructive criticism and not so much as "talking smack". Maybe you got to watch how some of the other spotters and drivers were in constant communication. Get some practice sessions in and learn how to use hand signals and work as a team.
Where was I? I was watching my first competition. My Jeeps not ready yet. I've still got high steer clearance issues to work out, and a better T-case with 4:1 gears before I'm ready. I'm looking forward to competing one of these days. For the record I was not one of the "white trash" hecklers.
Congrats for having the balls to enter and keep at it even if you were having a tough time.

No hard feelings man, it was a great learning experience. I talked for a long time with the spotter for Tri-C-G, during the event and after. I have never really spotted at anything like this before, Im usually driving, but my rigs torn down too. The heckling is part of it, I can handle it and any criticism, we'll do better like u said it takes practice. :beer:

We came in last in the modified class. As far as I'm concerned they did better than Matt and I. We broke and did so very early on. Why would any of us competitors talk smack about someone that was out there actually competing. Our steering bound up in the first obstacle. On the second we punctured the oil pan after we knocked the skid plate off. On the third we punctured a factory non fixable fuel line, lost a coil spring, bent/wasted a shock, and twisted a bunch of control arms. So it seems they did much better than us.

Some of our friends that were there said you guys were having a great time. That's all that counts.

Hey Brian heard you got married :eek: J/K The yellow TJ sure didn't work well this time too.

I talked to the "boy wonders" from Texas for about an hour as we were waiting for the closing ceremonies. I was parked right next to them and we talked about the runs and their rig. It's true their rig did not score a lot of points, but these first timers to Johnson Valley had no idea what they were up against. They did their best and were able to keep there rig together for most of the event. They did better than many other rigs. Talking to them they clearly knew what they needed to do to and planned to make the changes as soon as possible.

The ARCA course was used for most of the trails but the lines marked were harder than any other event I have seen in JV.

They sure did a whole lot better than the yellow mog that pulled up and broke 20 feet into the run, failing the rear shaft, right front U joint and then catching on fire. That mog sat there blocking the trail for about 6 hours!

I think the Texas boys are going to be back next year with a new improved rig and a much better idea of what it takes to conquer these trails.

Matt just sent me a pic from the event of walker and I....

I chatted with the TX boyz on Friday night (great to meet you guys!). In our conversation, he was tellin' me about the wheelin he's done, etc. I told him he hasn't seen real rocks till he has wheeled the rocks he's about to wheel tomorrow. He starts telling me about his mud covered rocks at home (typical East coast crap ;) ) yadda yadda. It was then I started getting pictures of DRM in my head. Right then I knew he was toast. :D:flipoff2::D:flipoff2::D Just givin' ya a hard time, buddy! I will see you guys at the next one....

Does anyone have a top ten list yet????? I wanna know how Jason Paule finished, and how the Waggoner's did in the stock mod class (Little yellow '5).

Originally posted by Brian E
Does anyone have a top ten list yet????? I wanna know how Jason Paule finished, and how the Waggoner's did in the stock mod class (Little yellow '5).

SIR hasn't released the list yet. But I already told you that Jason came in 4th or 5th. And Im not sure what place the Waggoners came in, but I DO know that we beat them. :flipoff2:

http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00438s.JPG

http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00436s.JPG

http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00434s.JPG

http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00435s.JPG

That is just cruel and unusual punishment.....


The pic above is of Jason Paules buggy......well.....I can almost make out the tires.....

Anyone have pics to post.....if you can't post to the board e-mail them to me and I will post them.....just don't make them big!

later :jeep:

Mieser,
Where are you from? Are you in South Dakota? Just wondering cause you seem to like Jason's buggy.

I do like that Buggy......I have been talking with Jason about having one built for a few months now. I really need to get a break from everything so I can make it down to see the thing run before I put down the cash....

Yes..I have buggyitus....for now I just have to webwheel :crybaby2:

You know its bad when you build new trails harder just to justify getting the buggy a little quicker...

later :jeep:

I see. The buggy is really something. It is almost no fun to go wheeling with it anymore. It is too hard to keep up in a "normal" rig. I don't know when Jason will get any time to finish the next buggy that is started in the shop. They are competing in almost every event around. ARCA, CalRocks, UROC, ProRock, etc... You should come up here, and we will show you some wheelin'.
Brian

Originally posted by incontrol
http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00438s.JPG

That thing shore is purdy! :D

Originally posted by incontrol
http://www.sonic.net/jkwaters/images/JV22202/DSC00436s.JPG
That shore is ugly :barf: :barf:

Thanks for the invite Brian. I will be up as soon as I can to hand over that nice fat check for the buggy......I will need much beer after that.....

So does the buggy really perform that well? In your opinion what makes it go so much better?

later :jeep:

Originally posted by Bones

That shore is ugly :barf: :barf:

and HUGE!
Holy shit :eek:

Well here is the top ten (Unofficial) for each class:

Trophy Class:

1. Jordan
2. Robbins
3. Bunch
4. Paule
5. Randall
6. Blume
7. Durham
8. Weaver
9. Evans
10. Yoder

Stock class:

1. Hawkins
2. Waggoner
3. Crook
4. Standage
5. Soults
6. Mello
7. Papola
8. Wallace
9. Nesselhuf
10. Pickerin

Thanks for the results Lance!

How about some PICS!!!

Ok....i'm better now...I can last a little longer now.....no really....I will be ok....don't worry about me.....i'm fine....really....

later :jeep:

Mieser,
Sorry for the late reply. I think the buggy works so well because of the balance, and the controlled flex. I have rolled my spring over CJ onto each sind more than enough times to know exactly when it is about to go. You can feel when a normal spring rig is about to go over. In the buggy we laid it completly over, and it never once felt unstable. Climbing up or down, either side, the thing never feels bad. I don't know if you have ever seen pics of the famous waterfall on Hal Johns. Jason drove to the top in the buggy, then turned around and drove part way DOWN it, stoped in the middle, and backed up it. Never felt bad. It really is an experience to drive, and ride in. The springs never unload like some 1/4 elip or coil rigs. You will have to drive it for yourself, especially now with a little Ram Jet power.

Brian,

Thanks for the info. Last time I talked to Jason he had just gotten the RamJet fired and hadn't driven it more than across the shop. The entire buggy is impressive. Do you have any pics of the ramjet installed, Jason mentioned that he was going to build a really cool dual element air cleaner that swept back along each side of the intake phenlum. I think I am going to start another thread for this stuff.....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36192

later :jeep:

Originally posted by Chris Geiger

They sure did a whole lot better than the yellow mog that pulled up and broke 20 feet into the run, failing the rear shaft, right front U joint and then catching on fire. That mog sat there blocking the trail for about 6 hours!



Chris, do you know (or does anybody) precisely what broke on the 'mog?
I run some 'mog stuff and was curious :smokin:

To the kid in the big jeep: Gawd damn straight bro. That's the attitude to have. Personally if I had people heckling me I'd be heckling them right the fuck back while going. :D

The the guys who said he sucks: Get out there and do it for yourself, THEN talk. I think we all remember a point in time when we weren't so good at wheelin now don't we? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Lance
I chatted with the TX boyz on Friday night (great to meet you guys!). In our conversation, he was tellin' me about the wheelin he's done, etc. I told him he hasn't seen real rocks till he has wheeled the rocks he's about to wheel tomorrow. He starts telling me about his mud covered rocks at home (typical East coast crap ;) ) yadda yadda. It was then I started getting pictures of DRM in my head. Right then I knew he was toast. :D:flipoff2::D:flipoff2::D Just givin' ya a hard time, buddy! I will see you guys at the next one....

LMFAO :laughing:

I'll repeat what others have said too. Least you guys gave it a shot and actually did it. There's always gonna be armchair quarterbacks :rolleyes:... You'll be better prepared next time around, and can only improve. :beer: Gawd, I'd love to try that someday :D

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