I thought maybe we could come up with a checklist to follow when laying a truck on it's side or over on the trail. Unfortunatly my trucks are no strangers to being on their side but I worry that I don't always check everything that i need to afterwards. Anyone have things for the checklist?

-Steve

Experience talking here. This is all Toyota related, so I don't know how much you'd need for a Heep, etc., but here goes.

Gear oil, at least a gallon. Don't forget the quart container with the tip to fill your diffs, tranny, etc. that people usually leave at home. Especially the tranny and dual cases.

Motor oil, at least 3 quarts. To fill up that now empty crankcase that will burn oil for about an hour after you finally get it running.

A new set of plugs. Might as well pull the old ones and put in the new ones after you put it past 90 degrees. You were going to do this to keep it from hydrolocking anyway, might as well throw in a set of fresh plugs. A cheap $1 swapmeet wire brush will keep the fresh plugs coming if it fouls up again.

Water, in case the radiator leaked out stuff. Also the battery. I run an Optima, so this isn't a worry anymore. I suggest you do the same if flops and rollovers are in your future.

This is all I needed from my last 4 wheel in the air flop, but it varies. I keep 5 quarts of oil, two gallons of 80W90 gear oil, a quart of PS fluid, WD40, a tub of grease, and a couple of gallons of water with me every trip. I never know what I may need or someone else. Don't be afraid to help others with what you've got, it's good karma.

Pat

Everything, and everyone, needs to be strapped down. And that doesn't mean wedged between the back of the seat and the something else.

I'm sure none of us want our toolbox, or box of spare parts to crack you (or your passenger) on the noggin.

10-4 MO.

it really is so simple but i see people ignore a very simple rule every day i have ever been wheeling.


STRAP ABSOULTLY EVERYTHING DOWN SECURLY.

other than that it is a good idea to make sure there are no sharp edges on the interior of your rig for people to tear on. that and having a save place for people to hold on during a crucial move is important. can't tell you how many time i have had to tell my passanager to remove thier hands from the top of the cage.

i'm not so much interested in what to do to be safe in a rollover...i hope we all know that. Of more interest to me is how to make sure the truck is ok after the roll. I got the Bronco on its side this weekend but it wasn't there for more than a minute before we got it back over, started it up and kept going.

-Steve

How important is it to get back upright quickly? Is it worth taking a little more body damage to go ahead and flip it back fast, or can you afford to take an extra 20-30 minutes to do a more careful job?

Also, if you lay it over and the motor's still running (assuming you think you can get it back on its feet pretty quick), is it better to leave the motor running or turn it off?

Originally posted by camo
10-4 MO.

it really is so simple but i see people ignore a very simple rule every day i have ever been wheeling.


STRAP ABSOULTLY EVERYTHING DOWN SECURLY.

other than that it is a good idea to make sure there are no sharp edges on the interior of your rig for people to tear on. that and having a save place for people to hold on during a crucial move is important. can't tell you how many time i have had to tell my passanager to remove thier hands from the top of the cage.

HAHAHA Are ya getting this Todd?

I know that EVERYONE carries a fire extinguisher but make sure it can be accessed when the truck is on either side or its lid. which might mean carrying two of them.

Oh yeah, STRAP 'EM DOWN!!!

You just rolled over and now you are concerned about body damage... Hmmm
Almost every time I roll the body gets torqued pretty hard anyway... You should Shut Off the Engine as soon as you can reach the key.

I haven't ever been 4 wheels up, and I've never had to do anything but start it again.
If the starter can't crank it like it should, it could have oil in a cylinder (or ? cyls. ), and will need to be cleared out before you can start it...pull the plugs, if they have oil on them, crank the engine to pump some oil out and then clean the plugs with gas. Other than checking the battery, brake fluid, strg. fluid, oil, radiator, auto trans and fan belts and Throttle RETURN Springs :eek: (long story) ...everything should be good.
If it cranks but won't start it could be flooded..hold it wide open and crank it a while to clear it out.

I've hit so hard before that the clutch pedal moved 6" and wouldn't work , but things like that are hard to miss. ;)

Originally posted by 92xj
How important is it to get back upright quickly? Is it worth taking a little more body damage to go ahead and flip it back fast, or can you afford to take an extra 20-30 minutes to do a more careful job?

Also, if you lay it over and the motor's still running (assuming you think you can get it back on its feet pretty quick), is it better to leave the motor running or turn it off?

WHATWHATWHAT?!?!?!?

If it can safely be flipped back over fast, then do it asap before all the fluids end up all over the ground and make sure you clean up any fluids before leaving.

LOL, if the engine is still running and the rig is on its side or top, it wont be running for long. Unless you have a bunch of guys standing right there and can get it right back over in a few seconds, (but they will be to busy getting pitures and checking out the body damage to help) so just shut it down. LMAO!!!

Originally posted by Ramstein


HAHAHA Are ya getting this Todd?

I know that EVERYONE carries a fire extinguisher but make sure it can be accessed when the truck is on either side or its lid. which might mean carrying two of them.

Oh yeah, STRAP 'EM DOWN!!!

Ummm... Who's Todd? And what did he get hit in the head with?

Originally posted by Mo


Ummm... Who's Todd? And what did he get hit in the head with?

Todd is "Todd" hehe member #422

Todds Roll (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/e72df54e/bc/movies/todds+roll.mpg?bcXQbe8Ad6MvLTjO)

He didnt get hit with anything but his tools, cooler and spares ended up all over and under the rocks.

Originally posted by Ramstein


HAHAHA Are ya getting this Todd?

Oh yeah, I got it, and you'll see that I really got it this weekend :D:D:D:D:D. There ain't shit goin nowhere!!

Originally posted by Ramstein


WHATWHATWHAT?!?!?!?

If it can safely be flipped back over fast, then do it asap before all the fluids end up all over the ground and make sure you clean up any fluids before leaving.

LOL, if the engine is still running and the rig is on its side or top, it wont be running for long. Unless you have a bunch of guys standing right there and can get it right back over in a few seconds, (but they will be to busy getting pitures and checking out the body damage to help) so just shut it down. LMAO!!!


So, what then, you mean to tell me these guys were lying? What good is the search function if all you get are lies? And after all the money I spent grooving my SX's...... Lance, i want my $20 back (oh, wait, I think I'm still mooching)



Originally posted by whatdaphuk
I know i'm still a newbie, but, unless you have a hydraulic winch, why would you keep the engine running when you are on your roof??:( Can someone politely enlighten me?



Originally posted by twistedmetal
Cuz, if you're runnin SX's, then there is always the chance you could hook up and right yourself, thus cancelling out your friends' laughter that you knocked it over. So, in the words of Homer-"Yoink!"



Originally posted by DownunderBender


Everyone knows if you groove your SX's with an air vortex grooving pattern, and run them at about 4psi, you get a tire oscillation condition at 2500 rpms, which creates a swirling vortex, around the tire.
The swirling vortex will,l propell you forward (or rearward if you throw it in reverse) , even while on your lid.
Works great, Ive done it many times,(mostly downhill though).

Im sure someone could post a pic or a link to a site, that shows the "air vortex" grooving pattern.

:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Mo


Ummm... Who's Todd? And what did he get hit in the head with?

LOL.... a friend of mine i was spotting on jack hammer that decided he was gonna have a garage sale and skatterd his junk during a 360 barell roll




hey todd your pre roll check list is .......

1. is camo spotting me? :flipoff2:
2. don't go that way

I second the get-it-on-it's-feet-as-quickly-as-possible. Two quarts of gear oil on the ground will mess up a lot of surface water (like three square miles IIRC). Fluid on ground=bad for the trail.

SeanP

Originally posted by 92xj


So, what then, you mean to tell me these guys were lying? What good is the search function if all you get are lies? And after all the money I spent grooving my SX's...... Lance, i want my $20 back (oh, wait, I think I'm still mooching)



You are kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding :laughing:

But in case you're not, under the right conditions this is posible. Even I have managed to up-right my old heep when it was on the drivers side in a notch but i was only leaned over maybe 70 degrees or so. But I dont consider that a "roll", hell some of like to drive on our sides

If you think you're in a position to throttle off your side, then stay on it. :D

Yes, I'm kidding. My original question was serious though, cuz I thought I remembered somebody had said something about wanting to keep the jeep running if he went over. When I went back to look at the thread, though, I saw it was just these two newbie-baiting posts.

Originally posted by SeanP
I second the get-it-on-it's-feet-as-quickly-as-possible. Two quarts of gear oil on the ground will mess up a lot of surface water (like three square miles IIRC). Fluid on ground=bad for the trail.

SeanP

This is a good point.... Stuff like extra paper towles and rags are good to have to wipe up your spilled fluids. Getting you rig rited quickly is the eaysest way for the least amount of cleanup. ''The Esclator'' in moab is a prime example of people floping over and spilling fluids and not cleaning up it is really descusting there cause of all the spilt crap on the rocks. THis is the stuff people from Tree huggers R us love to use aginst us.

Originally posted by 92xj
How important is it to get back upright quickly? Is it worth taking a little more body damage to go ahead and flip it back fast, or can you afford to take an extra 20-30 minutes to do a more careful job?

It doesn't take long to flip the truck back over. It shouldn't take more than about 10 minutes(usually less, it depends on how long everyone spends laughing) unless your hair gets caught in the roll bar. :D

Ive seen a direct injection engine gun upsidedown untill it started to spew white smoke from the oil being sucked into the combustion chamber. But, i would shut it down the second you feel you cant power out of it. In a roll or side flop type situation. Shure you engine might run, but it will take alot of damage from lack of oil. Your oil pump is only designed to work when the pan is level or close to it. *fyi, the kid's injected engine threw a rod later that week when he was driving to work. Ill assume it was cause of that little roll.*

Originally posted by camo





hey todd your pre roll check list is .......

1. is camo spotting me? :flipoff2:
2. don't go that way What, you think you scared me off?? It's almost time to give it another try at Jack, I just want to get some Longfields first. I took care of that gearing issue, but I'm still doing some cage gussetts. :D:D:D:D:D

Eveytime time i saw people roll ( i have never got mine ALL the way over,, just push it back up, open the hood make sure your Fan is not in your radiator, and then move it out of the way and check all your fluids on the side of the trail

Once upon a time in a land to close to where I live....

Make sure you take a cute girl out while on your first date ever then roll while trying to impress said girl.

Needless to say they got married shortly there after and now have 3 kids with one on the way, the truck doesn't run, and he doesn't get to go wheeling anymore.....they did just buy a new mini-van though.

Makes you think a little bit! I am soooooo glad that wasn't me!

later :jeep:

haha this weekend was the first time i've taken my gf out with me. Of course, trying to impress her I end up on the passenger side and gave her a nice bruise on her leg. She was way cool about it though and even picked my trashed windsheild up and put it in the back for me...maybe she's a keeper ;)

-Steve

Originally posted by offroadr35
haha this weekend was the first time i've taken my gf out with me. Of course, trying to impress her I end up on the passenger side and gave her a nice bruise on her leg. She was way cool about it though and even picked my trashed windsheild up and put it in the back for me...maybe she's a keeper ;)

-Steve

If you didn't lose your hearing from her screaming at you, methinks she sounds like a keeper!! Now, if she starts challenging you to try stuff you probably wouldn't normally try, and calls you a pussy if you won't-DEFINITELY a keeper!! :D

i am in the flop it back over as fast as possible crowd. i have floped 4 times and never took more than 5 mins to put it back. just fired it back up and took off. but if you trully roll one, you need to check it out pretty good[as in all fliuds and motor mounts] mike

here's what i learned in addition to what has been said.. obviously a fluid check is in order.. i say get it back over NOW.. and kill the motor the second it goes over!

also, check your front clip.. look at the radiator and the fan.. make sure it's ok.. other thing is CHECK BODY MOUNTS.. this can tweak steering.. and mine was so bad the clutch couldn't go far enough down to let the truck try to start (oil in cylinders anyway).. so always check body mounts.. this is another reason why body lifts aren't worthy..

If it's on it side, go full throttle and see if you can power out and get it back on it's wheels! Get it!

Originally posted by Chris Geiger
If it's on it side, go full throttle and see if you can power out and get it back on it's wheels! Get it!

In other words, "The answer is gas it! Now what's the question?"
That's school I came out of too.

When I laid my TJ on its windshield going up a steep hill. I just hit it in reverse and it kinda slid itself back upright. Then right back into 1st and get it again. Up and over!

Speed helps... Get it back upright quickly.