: Help identifying GM350 block year - need flywheel


tys
02-24-2002, 02:17 PM
Hey gang-

Info gathered from front corner of block. Need to know what year vehicle this mutha came out of so I can get the proper flywheel for it. I bought a flywheel for a GM350 this weekend and it no fitty...bolt pattern too large.

The info:

V1209FLL
131403

Note that in the bottom row of numbers, the 1's were slanted to the right, so they may not be 1's but /'s rather....who knows?

Can you help a poor brotha out??? :smokin:

BTW, I need a flywheel (& a dust shield) so I can install my SM465.

-Chris :rasta:

mj
02-24-2002, 02:45 PM
i am no expert but isnt there only 2 bolt patterns for SBC
depending on rear main seal it is either 1 piece (new) or 2 piece (old)

Cheepin
02-24-2002, 02:50 PM
Are you sure of the numbers?Can't find that suffix code.Is it a 1 piece or 2 piece rear seal?Blazin:rasta:

tys
02-24-2002, 04:03 PM
Are you sure of the numbers?Can't find that suffix code.Is it a 1 piece or 2 piece rear seal?

How can I tell if it's 1 or 2 piece without tearing into it? I know it is a newer style, because I picked up an older style flywheel and it no fitty. But just so I know what I have, I'd like to know what year this puppy is.

Did a comp. check on it today too.....real bad.....gonna have ta tear into it. Here are my results (dry test)...

#1 = 60
#2 = 60
#3 = 80
#4 = 70
#5 = 65
#6 = 40
#7 = 70
#8 = 30

Charly
02-24-2002, 04:43 PM
1 piece cranks will have a 3" diameter bolt pattern for the flywheel/flexplate, and you can easily see the seal housing (it bolts to the block).

Charly

tys
02-24-2002, 04:59 PM
Then yes, I have a 1 piece rear main seal as I remember seeing the seal housing you are refering too.

Still, what year is this thing?

-Chris

Cheepin
02-24-2002, 06:36 PM
Well if it is a 1 piece seal,than it is an 86 or newer(I think?).Check the suffix code again.I looked all over and couldn't find that code.The suffix code is the last 2 or 3 letters in your first number.This will tell you what year or years it could be.

ranger
02-24-2002, 06:45 PM
1 piece rear seals started in 85, I got one in my garage out of an 85 van.:skull:

4X4HIGH
02-24-2002, 10:22 PM
Hey ranger, GM did not go to the 1 piece rear main until "86". They went with roller cams in the cars in "87". They also went center bolt valve covers in "87". Also the 2 center intake bolts changed to a different angle starting in "87".

Big__B
02-25-2002, 07:24 AM
I just went through the same situation with my 85 K5 which has a later engine when I converted from auto to stick. I just went to the parts store and bought a flywheel for an 87 chevy truck and it only cost about 80 bucks.
On Chevy trucks, they don't start listing parts for one piece rear seals until 87.

ranger
02-25-2002, 08:25 AM
This is strange! :skull:

JK5
02-27-2002, 05:26 AM
I found the suffix code!! FLL is a 350 CID (VIN code M) out of a 85 3/4 ton! I hope this helps

tys
02-27-2002, 06:09 AM
I found the suffix code!! FLL is a 350 CID (VIN code M) out of a 85 3/4 ton! I hope this helps

That can't be true. Owner says it's the orig engine out of an 87 1ton van. Besides, it has a 1 piece rear main seal...which began production in 86. Could it be possible that the same code was used in later engines?

Chris

tys
02-27-2002, 09:25 AM
Ok, just got off the phone with the orig owner. It wasn't a G30, but a C30. AND I got the VIN# from him. So he says it came from a 1987 C30, and that it's the orig engine.

Thanks for all the help gain. I'd still be interested in knowing if the FLL code matched what I say it came from.

-Chris

ForestCam
02-27-2002, 11:17 AM
You may already know this trick but if not.....

Do another compression check but take an old squirt style oil can and put a few shots of oil in each cylinder before you do the check. If your compression come up you need rings if it doesn't change you need a valve job.

If you find you need rings try running a can of 5 minute flush trough the engine and then see if the compression comes up. You may just have stuck rings from either sitting or lack of oil changes.

Years back when I worked at a dealership one of the mechanics sold a customer on a new longblock because of bad compression and it was burning oil badly (1/2 ton w/90k on it). When he was switching the heads he noticed the cylinders didn't even have a slight lip at the top. He pulled a piston and the rings were stuck solid with varnish. Come to find out this was a target engine that was only 2 years old. Luckily the guy just bought the truck off a used car lot that has a shady rep. so the mechanic could cover his ass and no the customer never saw the old block (if I remember right the mechanic ended up soaking all the pistons in carb cleaner and taking it home). We all agreed that a can of engine flush would have fixed the problem.