Okay i know you sick mental hardcore guys are gonna laugh your fawkin asses off at me but,im in a real dilema, now i need axles for my jeep. I had a d44 and a 9" in my jeep which i sold recentley.

Now, im looking to build up new ones 1 tons i guess but this is the problem.I drive my jeep everyday,so i need something reliable and strong. i have a great deal on brand new mog axles but it is too much work to fit them, and the portals arent really designed to run 90 miles/hour for a long time .I do tons of driving to and fro canada and ny etc.

If i buy 6o front and rear it's not that expensive to do gears and weld on some brackets but i need a high pinion for the rear as i have a lot of lift and my t-case is way up there and well my angle on my driveline is steep (especially with the 9),so i was thinking of getting a 60 front and build a tera 60 but this is the problem .What do i want to do keep it 8 lug make it full floater in the back which i have no idea what kind of flanges i need shafts i guess anyone can make me ie.dutchman ,moser.I want rear discs also.

Or do i make it 5 lug cj style and get the front hube machined for 5 on 5.5 and who does that . i know wagoner machine shop does it who else can do that ?

Like i said i know 8 lug is the shit but 5 lug is easier.
thanks guys :D

ahahahahahahaha.......................u were just askin for it, whadya expect??

8 lug is easier and cheaper. :rolleyes:

The axles you're looking at came that way.

No machining of hubs.
No funky brake part matching.

Just buy what you want. Have them narrowed if necessary. Bolt them up.

OKAY THATS FINE WHAT DO I DO WITH THE REAR I HAVE A TERA CENTER SECTION WITH TUBES TO WHATEVER LENGTH WHAT FLANGES AND SHAFTS AND BRAKES DO I USE:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

DONT FORGET I NEED DISCS AND CALIPERS THAT WILL USE HAND BRAKE CABLES IN ORDER TO PASS GOVERMENT INSPECTION

I am with Mo on this one. I would definitely call some of the shops like Sams offroad, if you cant build it yourself at all. There is Dynatrac, and boyce equip. I would stay 8lug, and the disc conversion on a d60 rear is like 250. I cant remember the name. The tera low 60 will have to be built so unless you are going full width the rear will cost the same either way. the 5lug conversion for the front is like 1100 bucks if bought so I wouls leave it 8lug Hope It helps you out, and one more thing

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH:eek: :flipoff2:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! I shouldn't of told you guy's not to laugh at me.Well i would never pay dynatrac 7 grand for a diff they are smoking crack.I would luv to keep it 8 lug what do i do with the rear shafts and brakes?
Do i make it a full floater?Hey take into consideration im not frikin George Steinbrener i wanna do it as cheap as i can....:rolleyes:

Hey the last one was me I forgot to log the ol lady out.


If you want specifics on the materials for your rear 60 to build maybe you should ask the person you are hiring to put it together. If you are planning on 90mph trips down the freeway I would think twice about you putting it together since you cant even put the materials together yourself. Call Art Morrison or Currie and they can get you the materials you will need. Find the brake products you will use and ask them what you need for there brackets. Try TSM they are in all the mags, along with everything else you need. I can list off the materials you need for several diff ways to go but you need to know which parts you are going to use for certain.So join the club and do some research:flipoff2:

Hey man building it is nothing .I have the brackets and all i need to know what type of flanges to use .Do i use ford big flanges with 8 lug shafts so it will be like semi floater. No one knows what to do they all tell me the same thing , but i need a high pinion.

Hey dude! Get the portals, buy a car.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by tj7
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! I shouldn't of told you guy's not to laugh at me.Well i would never pay dynatrac 7 grand for a diff they are smoking crack.I would luv to keep it 8 lug what do i do with the rear shafts and brakes?
Do i make it a full floater?Hey take into consideration im not frikin George Steinbrener i wanna do it as cheap as i can....:rolleyes:

So who is gonna build it? You? then you just need a flange on the end that the big spindles fit to and the large shafts fit through. I think it is a torino or big ford flange. then you can run flanged axles and discs and forget the spindle. all the axle manuf. make an 8lug flanged 1.5in 35spline axle for around 295.00That is how I would biuld it and forget the full floater. then if you ever convert the front to 5on 5.5 then you can just have the rear flanged axles redrilled to 5 0n 5.5

AHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! that was an idea dude but i luv driving my jp,and scaring the shit outta guys on the interstate :eek: trust me they move over real quickly for me.Besides i am an extremist if i were to get a second car i would prolly get a 68 charger hook it up and be done with the jeep .So no to that idea :D

So was that clear enough for you? You have to be a little clearer what you want and not such an ass when it isnt handed to you on a platter. I didnt know what flange to use so I asked the people I buy flanges from and the people I buy the brakes from. Then you dont have to doubt the integrity of some stranger on a bb. Hope I could help:flipoff2:

thats's what i was thinking just keep it a semi floater 35 splined. now i am gonna have to run 16 inch and up to clear the discs righ hmmmmm. hummer wheels nice.:smokin:


hey man i appreciate it dude im very thankful didnt mean to be a dick:D

go buy a used 14 bolt - $100. Cut the outters off, and weld them on the 60 rear. Use the 14 bolt shafts/brakes. Or you can use one of the many inexpensive disk brake conversions.


If you're a fabricator, talk to Dean on this board (66CJDean, or something very similar) He'll sell you the jigs to weld the ends up.

Voila. 35 spline full floater.

hmmmmmmmmmm. 14 bolt ay. so all i would need really is the ends and maybe the shafts and brakes right....

Originally posted by Mo
go buy a used 14 bolt - $100. Cut the outters off, and weld them on the 60 rear. Use the 14 bolt shafts/brakes. Or you can use one of the many inexpensive disk brake conversions.


If you're a fabricator, talk to Dean on this board (66CJDean, or something very similar) He'll sell you the jigs to weld the ends up.

Voila. 35 spline full floater.

Mo check your facts. All the 14bolts I have bought and seen have 30,31, or 33 splines and I have yet to see a spool or side gears for a 60 at 31 or 33 spline with 1 9/16 shafts as well. Or are you saying to have the 14bolts resplined at 35 spline 1.5in?If there is such side gears that is a good way to go, then get the TSM disc kit and the eldo rear calip. w/ the e brake.

you guys are fawkin loosing me go slow with me i am a canadian...

do i really need the rear to be a full floater its a wrangler . its not really that heavy and shit...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by tj7
you guys are fawkin loosing me go slow with me i am a canadian...

do i really need the rear to be a full floater its a wrangler . its not really that heavy and shit...:rolleyes: I said what I thought was the easiest Get a pair of big ford flanges and a pair of 35spline 8 lug flanged axles and a 35 spline arb or detroit(no spool since its a daily driver)and a TSM disc kit with the eldorado calipers with the e-brake on them. Done. Obviously you are planning full width so get a d60 front and bolt it in done.IMO.Sell your 15 in swampers and get a set of 16in or 16.5 in and run beadlocks. I still dont know the amount of lift so I am planning a 38-13-16 on 7in alcoas to avoid the beadlocks and I like skinny tires.

wow i think that will be my plan. ya i have 38's now but i will go to 39's and definatley go with hummer beads it all depends on the length of the front i know hummers are crazy back spacing.wow this shouldnt cost too much now.whatta bout arb's i heard if im gonn drive on the highway it makes the seals wanna crack and loose its sealing cabablities...

Yes you respline the 14 bolt axles. Disc brakes are extra spiffy, but if you're on a budget bolt on the Chevy drums and cruise the malls.

Without sounding too much like a prick, why did you sell your current diffs without having all of this worked out already? Especially seeing how it is your d.d.

ramstien just had his rear 60 re-done by tri-county gear and they did the same as Mo was saying. they cut off the 31 spine 60 ends and welded 14bolt ends on, custom cro-mo shafts 35sp,disks, and new side gears for his detroit. pulling the dollar amount out of my ass :D but i remember a figure of around 1,500

well,as for why did i sell them and not look into what was my next project, i didnt realize that i would sell them that quickly off of ebay .and i had my hands on a front 60 but the jerk off screwedd me in the end.....:mad3:

Didn't know you would sell your axles that fast off of Ebay???

You pick the lenght of Auction, 3,5,7, 10 days and at the end the stuff is sold!!! No suprises!!!


:rolleyes:

okay i don't know what the fawkin problem is but i really didn't think someone would buy them my reserve was set high .does that make thing better ,to be honest with you i had bought unimog portals and was going with that but it isnt going to work out for me so i am doing 60's:rolleyes:

WOW I wouldnt even respond tj7. There isnt anyone with any info to add to this thread? I think you are making a wise improvement since d60s are good for all the improvements you could want to make. mogs are cool but unless you are rich the g60 or 14bolt/60 hybrid is the best way. Let us know how it works out and post some pics.

well this is whats going down,bythe way i appreciate all of your help dude. kay i picked up a ford front 60 gonna keep it full width and i also picked up 14 bolt tubes and the hubs , now i ordered a tera flex 60 center section with tubes a little longer then usual so i can match the maesurements with the front.i have rear calipers from a eldorado so if anyone needs them i can get them cheaper than the parts stores,anyways i will get 35 spline shafts from either moser or dutchman and the brake brackets from tsm,now the locker is the only thing ,i heard that the ox locker is comming out with the push button locker for the d60 so i will see .my options are arb and detroits .now the front has 35 splined inners so what kind of locker will fit that only arb and detroits?

All the same lockers for the rear will fit the front. d60 is d60. I would personally go with an ARB since they are nice and unlockable. The detroit or I think a lockrite are avail. but I would go arb. Sounds like you made some good decisions and your axle will last for whatever you want to do in the future.

well ya see i sold my d44 and my 9 ich for a great price and i would never pay anyone a sick amout of money to build some axles i know how much this crap goes for you know.now i dont mind a detroit in the front or a powertrax but not in the rear i do want a locker that is selectable but it costs so much for an arb its crazy now what do i do buy the locker and get a york compressor or the one kilby is selling? damn fawkin money , money ,money