RRO new bolt on traction bar "Torque Barz"

[shmoesmith]

so, it looks like RRO has a new design that you dont have to weld on. looks like it uses the bolts on your 3rd member to attatch it. Any of you guys seen it or tried it yet? Those of you that have traction bars or have made them, what are your thoughts on the design?

http://www.rocky-road.com/zukdrive.html

[whistle pig]

thats skys design.they get them from sky

[shmoesmith]

Yes, I can see that....so any comments on the design? how do you guys think it will hold up and how well will it work, and will it limit articulation significantly

[Tusker]

I assume it uses a slip-yoke?? Looks fine if that is the case. As long as it can be mounted in the center of the axle and has some slip yoke system, it shouldn't limit articulation much if at all.

[utahsamiman]

wow imagine that they used somebody elses design. Seem to have happened in that past. Eh, schmoe?

[Cap'n Ron]

thats skys design.they get them from sky

Hmmm...Yeah...bolt on anti-wrap bar...wish I thought of that! :D

[NC Zuk]

wow imagine that they used somebody elses design. Seem to have happened in that past. Eh, schmoe?

Um, you think that just "maybe" they distribute stuff for Sky? :rolleyes: Come on man, you are better than that. :shaking:

[NC Zuk]

Hmmm...Yeah...bolt on anti-wrap bar...wish I thought of that! :D
That thing have any slip in it? If not it has got to bind

[shmoesmith]

Um, you think that just "maybe" they distribute stuff for Sky? :rolleyes: Come on man, you are better than that. :shaking:
in this case, yes, it looks like they are distributing for sky. In the past(from what I understand) there have been issues with them copying other peoples products. The whole shaffer kit comes to mind. Granted they did change it, but I hear its only because they were forced to after the fact or face legal action(mind you, this is all hear-say from online bulletin boards). I have also heard of a few other things that they copied that they were forced to stop marketing or change design on. My only gripe with their distributing is that they dont say its a distributed product....i'm leary of some companies for good reason and I dont want to be accidently buying their product via a distribution company. Now that I can plainly see that its a Sky product and not somone elses junk, I am satisfied that it will be of good quality. IF it was made directly by RRO i would be a bit leary of it as I have had badly fitted or manufactured parts from them in the past.

[TatorZuk]

Hmmm...Yeah...bolt on anti-wrap bar...wish I thought of that! :D

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=184863

You got any pics of this setup in action...meaning articulation ability??

[HUMZUKI]

You should have used rubber bushings on the axle side. That sides not flexin anyware,,,you kinda just wasted two heim joints. And theres no play, so the direct shock is probably going to put alot of stress on the rest on the drive train. And there realy isnt a point in having spines in your DS so you mine as well weld it together.

But its beefy!

[OKIE ZUK]

You should have used rubber bushings on the axle side. That sides not flexin anyware,,,you kinda just wasted two heim joints. And theres no play, so the direct shock is probably going to put alot of stress on the rest on the drive train. And there realy isnt a point in having spines in your DS so you mine as well weld it together.

But its beefy!


:confused: Welding driveshaft together? Hum, why didn't I think of that? NOT. Look at the shackle in the front mount. Rubber in the rear is good, but do you know how a traction bar works, Humzuki?

[HUMZUKI]

I didn't realize thet was a shackle,,,,ya cant see it in the pic :flipoff2:

It would have been better with the arm on top, thats where its trying to go,,,,,But it is easier to do it that way. And you still wasted two heim joints.

[OKIE ZUK]

Your right on the hiems, though. :p

[Cap'n Ron]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=184863

You got any pics of this setup in action...meaning articulation ability??

Yeah, here it is on the Rubicon :flipoff2:

[Cap'n Ron]

You should have used rubber bushings on the axle side. That sides not flexin anyware,,,you kinda just wasted two heim joints.

...and I should have been born a Kennedy, but that didn't happen either. :D If you've ever run an axle through it's full range of motion, you would have witnessed, first hand, some amount of axle steer/walk. As the axle walks fore and aft, something's got to give. A hard rubber bushing (mounted horizontally) would accommodate this less gracefully than a pair of heims.

And theres no play, so the direct shock is probably going to put alot of stress on the rest on the drive train.

Actually, you want as little "play" as possible so you don't get stress. the front is mounted to a cross member...then a shackle...then a Johnny Joint...so there is ample "range of motion", but you are correct...no/little "play." Think of the shock load problem like swinging a hammer at your frame...You're not going to get much impact if the swing of the hammer is restricted to...let's say...how little a bushing gives. Nice and tight, but full range of motion.

And there realy isnt a point in having spines in your DS so you mine as well weld it together.

But its beefy!

Yeah, I see you've thought this one through...and assumed I HARD mounted that Johnny Joint to the frame...and commented based on that assumption??? :eek:

I leave you with this:

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt." (Samuel Johnson 1709-1784)