BAH! it ain't, so why is there so many damn Dana 30 threads lately??? Is JU broken??? Dana30=JU (http://www.Jeepsunlimited.com)

Flame away, lock this thread, do what you will... but Dana 30 questions belong here like IFS questions on the Toyota board... THEY DON'T!!! so much for hardPOR:( and YES I do have a dana 30 in my Jeep, and NO, you will not read a single question about it from me besides... "how big of a boat will my dana 30 safely secure in a 30 mph wind?"

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we now return you to your regular PORgramming:flipoff2: I hope:rolleyes:

You're fucking JOKING right? :flipoff2: I am starting to think my D44 doesnt qualify anymore :rolleyes:

Actually, I admit I ran a D30 for a couple years, without any problems. I say run what ya brung, and I dont have any problem with tech info etc, what I have a problem with is all this "Hey I wanna upgrade my 30 so I never have to replace it even though I am planning on 40's" thinking ;)

I'm with Keith on the run what you brung thing....

But your point is well taken... and needed. :flipoff2:

Strong,
FYI your 44 doesn't qualify as hardcore!. :rainbow: :flipoff2: :D

but my super 35 is hardcore!!!!! :flipoff2: ....only when i am :smokin: way too much

I'm keeping mine but the biggest tires I ever plan on running are 33's. I dont see a reason to go bigger with that size of tire. But I'm not going to be putting any post up about my "hardcore" D30 either.

Originally posted by Keith Strong
what I have a problem with is all this "Hey I wanna upgrade my 30 so I never have to replace it even though I am planning on 40's" thinking ;)

Gotta realize that people that ask that don't wheel.

Anyway:flipoff2:

the tri country yellow yj runs a front 30, and does just fine. it runs a 2.5 with a klune, and drives pretty crazy. sure it may break, but in competitions, wieght is extrememly important, look at nascar. your getting back to the whole debate over nothing replaces displacement, which just isn't true anymore. look at 300m shafts, little 4 cylinders putting out 600 horses, and everything else that is out there today. sure you can put 300m in a dana 60 and have something even stronger than a smaller axle with alloy shafts, but that would be extreme overkill. so in the end, you are consantly carring around an extra 500 pounds on your rig when you go to a 1ton drive train, when you may have never needed it.

on the other side, 1 ton 79 chevys are about a grand here, so i'm about to cut one up and put it under my jeep anyways, since alloy shafts are so damn expensive.

my point was the dana 30 is a great little axle, and can be used in a hardcore setting. but throwing 40 inch tires at it IS pretty dumb.

how many people actually care about weight tho? consider the 10,000 or so users on PBB... how many of those are going to be competing in a situation where they need lightweight stuff because it'll affect their runs? and those people aren't the ones asking the :rainbow: questions.

I never broke anything with my 30, just a couple ruby trips and a fordyce but I tend to be lightfoot unless required :)

Originally posted by Brandon
I never broke anything with my 30, just a couple ruby trips and a fordyce but I tend to be lightfoot unless required :)

I still have my D30 too. Three Rubicon trips, one Dusy, and all
kinds of other trips over lots of rocks. Haven't broken it in the
almost 5 years I've had it. It's got 4.88's and it's locked.

Originally posted by RokHeep
Strong,
FYI your 44 doesn't qualify as hardcore!. :rainbow: :flipoff2: :D

Are you hitting on me :rainbow: Boy? :flipoff2: Check Yo PM's

My Dana 30 is more hardcore than a Curry 9. Not saying either is hardcore, mind you. But so far the weak link in a DANA 30 is the

DAMN 297x joints!

So yes, they belong on the BBS. So we can figure out how to keep the damn 297x joints from busting. Once we get that figured out. NO dump the 30 talk. :D

Originally posted by Reverse Cut
My Dana 30 is more hardcore than a Curry 9.

Curry? isn't that the spicy east-indian shiat you put on chicken and rice ;)


So yes, they belong on the BBS. So we can figure out how to keep the damn 297x joints from busting. Once we get that figured out. NO dump the 30 talk. :D

Did you not see the CTM Article up (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30179) sticky at the top of every forum? Slap in some alloy shafts, and a set of CTMs and I can guarantee you won't break another 297. Its an easy bet to win cuz you won't have any 297s to break;) But if they won't break, what will?

Originally posted by Dan-H


But if they won't break, what will?

Thats what scares me about a D30. ;)

Weight is a big concearn if you want to play in the snow a lot. If you are goint to spend a bunch of money on axles and ujoints at least build a 44.

Believe it or not but everyone doesn't need 60's front and rear. Some people are happy with the D30 and just want to make it as good as they can. If you don't want to read anymore D30 post then quit looking at them!:flipoff2:

I know a guy who widens and swaps Jeep d30's into the front of his 1200hp 1-ton Chevy mud-drag rig. He does it to save weight and since the front tires don't have much weight on them when he is lifting them in the air, stregth of the axle doesn't matter all that much.

So . . . is 1200hp BEFORE he fogs the nitrous and does 1/8 mile in 3-foot deep mud in under 8 seconds not hardcore enough for anyone here? If so, I need to leave. :flipoff2:

J. J.

You know what ? I have wheeled a D30 for almost 4 years now. I wheel with Ned Bacon, Soni Honiger, Rick Pewe,Greg Mushmen, on the Con, At Moab, and on rocks and mud and deep snow. I have broken NOTHING ! Hogged out a hiem is all, not broken tho. I have beefed EVERYTHING ! Warn inners an outters, Warn hub conversion, gears, locker, custom made axle truss/skid plate, custon sterring, 5 on 5 1/2. I also carry many spare parts. With ALL the beefing I,ve done, AND with my style of "EASY" on the go peddle...I think my D30 will last me for a few more trips to the Con, or Moab, or anywhere else I take it ! I am NOT hardcore ! I do NOT compeet ! I do wheel every chance I get, and ask my Jeep to take me places most others are not willing to go. I pick my line carefully, work my suspension and go easy on the go juice !

Why do I stay with my "puny" D30 ? It,s there, it has always taken me where I,ve wanted to go , and back !

Do I want D60,s ? Hell yes ! But why ? they are heavy, they are expensive, and my D30 is working fine.

Am I ever going to swap out my D30 ? Not unless my D30 "exploads" ?

In my own little world, I do just fine with my D30...Thank You very much for informing me of how much of a peice of sheit it is tho ! I,m always greatfull of fellow wheelers showing me a better line, or lending a hand to fix a broken part, or telling me what a pile my ride is ?

:D :eek: :flipoff2: ;) :rolleyes:


My .02 worth ?


:jeep: __(OIIIIIIO)__rOkOn:usa:

D30 is not hardcore, no one said it is. Yes run what ya brung. If it breaks upgrade or repair.

Do I want a 60? heyell yes Not gonna happen anytime soon though. Should it stop me from wheelin every weekend? nope

Either have a choice and be stuck with the harcore bug and build a rig for 4 yrs without even touching the trail or you can slowly evolve like most do and have a kickass time wheelin a lot.

Originally posted by Dan-H
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Did you not see the CTM Article up (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30179) sticky at the top of every forum? Slap in some alloy shafts, and a set of CTMs and I can guarantee you won't break another 297. Its an easy bet to win cuz you won't have any 297s to break;) But if they won't break, what will?

Oh yea! I have seen it, commented on it, re-read it, plan on it. And can't wait to get it.

But still wonder...... What is going to be my next weak link?

I think Ring and Pinion is next in line on my front end. But I might be wrong.... Chances are the ARB is the next weakest link for me.

I hope not, I really would like to get the ring/pin next weakest link. that way I can be forced to upgrade. :massey:

Someday I might even go to 297's on my 30 .I'll fell HARDCORE then!! lol

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT YOU GOT...As long as you wheel the piss out of it then your hardcore, fuck you need 2.5 rockwells to be hardcore now... F-That, dude you got what you got and if you wheel the shit out of it than your hardcore. Cause i know alot of people with what they call the "HARDCORE SETUP" that dont wheel one bit and they are HArDCORE.....OK:rainbow: :rainbow:

people always knock the 30..... yes it is inferior to 44's 9's and 60's but i can remember beating the piss outta mine with 35's and it held up pretty good...

reverse cut... i have broken the axle shaft at the spline... the difference is when you ctm your 30 it will still have small shafts, and r&p.... there is more difference than the 297.... the 30 shafts look like a twig compared to my 31 spliners... :D

You are RIGHT, LOS-YJ !:D It matters not WHAT you wheel...just that you DO wheel ! Just wheel the damn thang ! Hardcore, weinie, D30, D60, 33,s or 44,s ...JUST go wheel it till the tires fall off..fix/upgrade it and go wheel it somemore ! We get so wraped up in what,s harcore and what isnt, that some miss the point. It,s ALL about the WHEELING, guys an gals... Whos is bigest, whos is baddest, whos is most hardcore, that,s for bullshitting around the campfire. It,s all about just getting out there and WHEELING ! Alittle ribbing about make, model, or set up , out on the trail, or in here is fun and hummorious...but you will never hear me call a fellow wheelers ride a POS !or tell them to get off my trail cos you aint hardcore enuff ? I admire ppl who,s rides are better then mine and look at them for ideas, but I allso like telling a person whos ride isnt as fixxed up as mine what and how I did mine. Isnt that what it is all about ? Helping eachother out ? I get tired of the "will 33,s fit?" but we were ALL there once ! and I donot mind helping a newbe out. Yes tell them to do a search, yes tell the to go to the apropiate forum, but belittle and humileate then to the piont of them leaving the site ? How is that helping our sport ? With 0ver 10,000 ppls on this thing now, it is NOT the same ol POR, but it is still the best place on the net to get info and to meet nice 4wheeling type ppl ! OK, I,ll step down off the soap box..... :rolleyes: :D :eek: :p :flipoff2:


:jeep: __(OIIIIIIO)__rOkOn:usa:

The best example that would answer your question is ....since tri-county gear competes w/one ,thats when.
There are so many knotheads here it's ridiculous.
"You dont have what I have....you dont want what I want...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !"Your truck is prettier than mine...you must not use it...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I went to the other boards for a couple days each....after busting people for being weenies I made my way here.I am glad this site is here...Search is cool...after you wade through the crap you sometimes can find a real answer.I may run a 30...maybe a 44...maybe a 60...I am not sure yet but I like to read other peoples experience w/them all. And they ALL can be made to work.
I am starting to wonder though ,who really has the thin skin ??? who are the real weenies ???
flame away ...I can handle it...it reminds me of the little boy that cant get a new toy and flops around on the floor crying and whining .
The only real problem I see w/newbies is the inability to use the search button.
d30=ju...how stupid is that ?
fact is the tri county jeep w/it's 4 cyl and d30 woul;d probably spank most of you.....I did say MOST not ALL

Besides, what's the main difference between a d30 and d60? Size of parts? That's it. And I'm sure that if all we allowed on POR was people that had big parts there would be a lot of people not here that are here now. :flipoff2:

J. J.

Yes a D30 IS hardcore............hardcore breakage anyways......
http://www.nwcoasis.com/evans/ujoint.jpg
That's what a 2.8V6 did to mine. ;)

(it also might have something do with the 35" boggers, 4.56 gears, and the fact that it's welded too) :D

I agree, as long as you wheel hard, then it doesn't matter what axles you got under there, as long as you realize your going to have to replace them if you do wheel hard, and then you upgrade. You might as well get as much as you can out of the axle until you've killed it, as long as your prepared to get yourself off the trail when you break it, then i don't think it matters.

keith, its how you use your 44 that makes you hardcore(poser!):flipoff2:

Originally posted by HighHooder
how big of a boat will my dana 30 safely secure in a 30 mph wind?"

now that is some hard core dana 30 talk there :smokin:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
keith, its how you use your 44 that makes you hardcore(poser!):flipoff2:

I never said I was hardcore.......


Poser Pride Baby

:flipoff2:

The 30 scares me... I ran one for years in my old yj with 33's and never had a problem thoagh.
44's scare me to cus have managed to break the one on my scrambler by driving off my trailer and not removing the chain holding the axle down.
I have seen a 4 cylinder break a 60 in moab on double whammy.
Mayb the 30 wasnt so bad after all lol.

Every system has to have a FUSE....a weak point.....Id much rather have a D30 axle shaft snap than an output shaft....or DS...I still run my D30....many 4.5 and up trails.....I know guys who over build axles etc and then break stuff that you cant easily replace on the trail....an axle takes me less than 15 minutes...and I carry spares.

Originally posted by NothernAZxj
Every system has to have a FUSE....a weak point.....Id much rather have a D30 axle shaft snap than an output shaft....or DS...I still run my D30....many 4.5 and up trails.....I know guys who over build axles etc and then break stuff that you cant easily replace on the trail....an axle takes me less than 15 minutes...and I carry spares.

I agree, but at least with my 44 (or even a 60) I am more worried about it being a ujoint or something simple than r/p or something. At least I can carry spare joints, change them with ease, and KNOW I will be able to get off the trail. ;) Just my $5 worth :p

I have not heard of anyone breaking a D30 ring or pinion except for 4.88 or higher........and that is a problem with any the gears weaker as the gearing gets higher