Please indicate in a response which of the following stops you'd like to make. Also indicate how many people & vehicles will be in your party.


(1) June 4th, 2002: Hammers in CA - need trip leader
(2) June 7th, 2002: Highway To Hell in AZ - JackA to lead
(2B) Tentative June 9th, 2002: Farmington, NM - landuseorc to lead
(3) June 10th, 2002: Proving Grounds in UT - Moab Austin tentatively scheduled as trip leader
(4) June 12th, 2002: Die Trying in CO - need trip leader
---GILMER, TX canceled per wrngrog's recommendation
(5) June 15-16th, 2002: Clayton, OK - wngrog to lead - no vehicle limits
-June 17th, drive 178 miles to Disney, OK
(6) June 18-19 Disney OK - Matt Green tentatively
scheduled to lead
---June 20, Open date.
-June 21st, 2002 travel 326 miles to Montgomery City, MO
(7) June 22nd : Mud Racing in Montgomery City, MO - lead by TEX. No vehicle limits, no max. #, no reservation needed. www.gumbo4x4.com for details on stop #7
---June 23rd at Montgomery City cancelled. Open date.
-June 24th, 2002 travel 322 miles to Attica, IN
(8) June 25th, 2002: Badlands in IN on Troy's Trail lead by Syko and/or Woody
-June 26th, 2002 travel 320 miles to Slade, KY
(9) June 27th, 2002: Slade, KY - lead by Syko
-June 28th, 2002: travel 354 miles to Monteagle, TN
(10) June 29th, 2002: Monteagle, TN lead by DRM
(11) June 30-July 4th, 2002 up to 4 stops in NC - lead by elusive
(12) July 6th, 2002: Big Dogs in VA - need trip leader Hoyden says this must be approved)
(13) July 8th, 2002: Possibly in the Adirondacks - yjtj tentatively scheduled to lead
(14) July 12th, 2002: Paragon, PA - need trip leader - Hoyden scheduled to lead, yjtj might be able to help. emsoffroad also to help.
(15) July 15th, 2002: Silver Lake Sand Dunes in MI - JimL tentatively scheduled to lead, Jeepinguy also volunteered to help
(16) July 17th, 2002: Trails in MN - possibly lead by Dana27 and/or Dangerber
(17) July 20th, 2002: Black Hills - lead by ChinLei & WillyMutt (probably in 2 groups)
(18), (19), & (20) July 21-31, 2002 Two-three stops in Northern Rockies en route to Rubicon - need trip leaders
(21) August 1st, 2002: Rubicon - need trip leader(s)
(22) August 5th, 2002: Oregon and/or Washington -
bashed4runner tentatively scheduled to lead trip in WA -
the following has been suggested by Ben W for this leg:
Aug 5: Browns Camp in Or Ben W & bigblaze to help
Aug 7: Kaner/Shoestring/Funny Rocks in Central WA
Aug 8 or 9: Walker Valley or Reiter Trails in Western WA Ben W to help
(23) August 8th, 2002: Somewhere in BC - Whizzy
scheduled to lead
---Yukon leg cancelled due to injured ColdNorth


TEX

At this point, looks like #7 will be my only stop. ~200 vehicles, 300 participants, and 5,000 spectators anticipated :)

TEX

I SHOULD be able to make stop number 1.. maybe more.. who knows...
Scott

I would love to try and make it to the Rubicon portion of the tour on August 1st and then travel the tour back up to B.C. and be home for the B.C. portion.

If Whizzy needs a co-leader, I would be willing to offer my services!

Whizzy - can you say HUT LAKES? :D :D :D

#14 I will be there to meet you guy's! I only live 60 miles north of the park. That's my home turf see ya then!

About stop #16: It looks doubtful that I can be counted on to lead, I'm getting married less than a month after that, so I may be financially impaired in the rig-readiness dept. I will certainly try to make it to do some wheeling, but don't want to let anyone down by committing to leading.

I know there are quite a few other MN wheelers who could step up here... :flipoff2:

I'll be around for stop #3. Probably have 5 or 6 rigs w/ me. Looking forward to it. :rasta:

I plan to make it to stop #5, and maybe to #6 since I'm already that close. I'll see if any of my friends are interested, but most likely it will just be me and my spotter in my toy.

Tex, Will probably be in on these stops. Possibly two or three vehicles, and 2-6 peeps.. Clayton/Disney/Montgomery City :D

Um TEX you might need to talk to DRM about the monteagle trip, he needs to get a rig together soon.

Count me in for #14
Like flexysammy said, this is our home turf and counting flexy we should have at least 4 rigs.
If you need more help on this one let me know.

See you there
rich

Depending on my summer job, i will be at #10 and #11. the reason i say that is cause i'm tryin to get an internship to Argentina, so if that happens it would be difficult for me to go wheelin here:flipoff2:

I am down for stop #22. Have Jeep, will follow. :D

22 and/or 23, that is if grocery getters are allowed.

Cheers
Dale

Originally posted by MudBunny
I would love to try and make it to the Rubicon portion of the tour on August 1st and then travel the tour back up to B.C. and be home for the B.C. portion.

If Whizzy needs a co-leader, I would be willing to offer my services!

Whizzy - can you say HUT LAKES? :D :D :D

thats what I was thinking, but I will obvisouly have to go and wheel it a whole bunch of times first.
:D:D:D:D:D:D

goign to try to make stops 3,4, and 12:D

Of Course 8 and 9 :)I may be in Attica from the 21st with Woody. I should have about 5 or 6 rigs with me for the runs.

Maybe 10 - We'll see how the vacation days hold out:D:P

Well assuming the Ducky is done... (hopefully) then I'll be there definitely for 5,6, & 7 with probably 10-15 rigs. I'd like to try to make it to number 4... but thats probly pushing it.

Tex, I just have one question, with all those stops why on earth are you bypassing the 4 Wheeling Center of the Universe, Farmington, NM. That's my home base, and we feel slighted here! :D

Originally posted by TrailRunner
Um TEX you might need to talk to DRM about the monteagle trip, he needs to get a rig together soon.

If David isn't back in a rig by then, we got plenty of other trail leaders for Monteagle..:D

Probably 10-11. I will see if any others in my club can make it. There rigs are far superior to mine. If they go, they would probably be willing to lead a few rides. Ill talk w/ them.:D

Originally posted by FlatTaco
Tex, Will probably be in on these stops. Possibly two or three vehicles, and 2-6 peeps.. Clayton/Disney/Montgomery City :D
Hell ya! Sounds like a fun time!

I'm shootin' for 8-11 but might have to bail on 11. Probably have 2-3 rigs with me. I'll be solo for 8 though.

Easy

21 for sure, probably have between 1 and 4 other vehicles with me and 1-2 people per vehicle...I might make # 1 too, and maybe have 1 other vehicle with me...

Shooting for 21 and 22 with between 2 and 5 rigs.

22 for sure (browns camp)
23 hopefully

hopefully 21, 22, 23

Originally posted by MudBunny

Whizzy - can you say HUT LAKES

not a good idea IMHO. first off the trail only takes an hour or so to do. plus if a lot of trucks are going to make it up to BC the trail will be totally packed. not to mention the trail is not too hard for a rig that is locked f/rr like all the guys that would eb coming up here. i think that we should take them over to vancouver island. somewhere like the Bitch trail comes to mind...

two or three rigs with about six people will travel down for #21 then head up for #22 if time, money and rigs allow maybe #23 also.

Man am I gonna end up doing the hammers all by myself?? :D
Scott

8 and 14 for sure, maybe 9 and 10 as well depending on my vacation time. So far it's just one vehicle with two passengers. I'm working on getting some more people from around here to join me.

Tass

Originally posted by landuseorc
Tex, I just have one question, with all those stops why on earth are you bypassing the 4 Wheeling Center of the Universe, Farmington, NM. That's my home base, and we feel slighted here! :D

Mainly 'cause in the 4 months that we've been talkin' about this, nobody has jumped in & volunteered to lead a group in this area :(

We do have a few spots that don't have trip leaders, but they made it on the schedule because they were suggested right up front. I suspect there'd still be room to squeeze in Farmington if we had a definite trip leader & plenty of interest in folks hitting that spot.

TEX

Tex said:
We do have a few spots that don't have trip leaders, but they made it on the schedule because they were suggested right up front. I suspect there'd still be room to squeeze in Farmington if we had a definite trip leader & plenty of interest in folks hitting that spot.
If anyone is interested in a stop in Farmington/Aztec I can get any number of folks to lead, my club Rock Garden 4 Wheelers hosts visitors all the time. Let me know if there is any interest, it would only involve a slight detour between AZ and Moab, we're about 2 1/2 hrs. south of Moab.

Originally posted by landuseorc

If anyone is interested in a stop in Farmington/Aztec I can get any number of folks to lead, my club Rock Garden 4 Wheelers hosts visitors all the time. Let me know if there is any interest, it would only involve a slight detour between AZ and Moab, we're about 2 1/2 hrs. south of Moab.

Well, that sounds reasonable. For now, I've marked that down as stop #2B - just 'cause everyone has started to indicated which stop they're going to BY #, so I don't want to edit the #'s just yet. We can do that in Part IIX. I've marked you as the trip "leader", which isn't to say you actually have to physically LEAD on trail day. We'll just mark you as the coordinator for that stop. You'll need to assign a meeting place & time, and put any restrictions on the run that apply (limited # of vehicles, equipment requirements, etc.). And you can assign trail leader(s) for the day - be it you or whomever. If you're that close to Moab, I see no reason you couldn't squeeze in some Farmington action.

TEX

I'll probably make #21. I could lead the trip if nobody else volunteers.

Okay, here's where everything stands as of now:

(1) June 4th, 2002: Hammers in CA - need trip leader
1badjeep (1), CrazyHorse (1)?

(2) June 7th, 2002: Highway To Hell in AZ - JackA to lead


(2B) Tentative June 9th, 2002: Farmington, NM - landuseorc to lead


(3) June 10th, 2002: Proving Grounds in UT - Moab Austin tentatively scheduled as trip leader
Eddie McStiff (1), Parker (5-6)

(4) June 12th, 2002: Die Trying in CO - need trip leader
Eddie McStiff (1), ScoutsHonor (1)?

---GILMER, TX canceled per wrngrog's recommendation
(5) June 15-16th, 2002: Clayton, OK - wngrog to lead - no vehicle limits
TexasCruiser (1), FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1)

-June 17th, drive 178 miles to Disney, OK
(6) June 18-19 Disney OK - Matt Green tentatively scheduled to lead
TexasCruiser (1), FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1)

---June 20, Open date.
-June 21st, 2002 travel 326 miles to Montgomery City, MO
(7) June 22nd : Mud Racing in Montgomery City, MO - lead TEX. No vehicle limits, no max. #, no reservation needed. www.gumbo4x4.com for details on stop #7
FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1), TEX (150-200)

---June 23rd at Montgomery City cancelled. Open date.
-June 24th, 2002 travel 322 miles to Attica, IN
(8) June 25th, 2002: Badlands in IN on Troy's Trail lead by Syko and/or Woody
Syko (5-6), EasyXJ (1), Tass (1)

-June 26th, 2002 travel 320 miles to Slade, KY
(9) June 27th, 2002: Slade, KY - lead by Syko
Syko (5-6), EasyXJ (2-3), Tass (1)?

-June 28th, 2002: travel 354 miles to Monteagle, TN
(10) June 29th, 2002: Monteagle, TN lead by DRM
Ryanwhit (1), Syko (1), big4294x4 (1), EasyXJ (2-3), Tass (1)?

(11) June 30-July 4th, 2002 up to 4 stops in NC - lead by elusive
Ryanwhit (1), big4294x4 (1), EasyXJ (1)?

(12) July 6th, 2002: Big Dogs in VA - need trip leader Hoyden says this must be approved)
Eddie McStiff (1)

(13) July 8th, 2002: Possibly in the Adirondacks - yjtj tentatively scheduled to lead


(14) July 12th, 2002: Paragon, PA - need trip leader - Hoyden scheduled to lead, yjtj might be able to help. emsoffroad also to help.
Metal Mender (4), FlexySammy (1), Tass (1)

(15) July 15th, 2002: Silver Lake Sand Dunes in MI - JimL tentatively scheduled to lead, Jeepinguy also volunteered to help


(16) July 17th, 2002: Trails in MN - possibly lead by Dana27


(17) July 20th, 2002: Black Hills - lead by ChinLei & WillyMutt (probably in 2 groups)


(18), (19), & (20) July 21-31, 2002 Two-three stops in Northern Rockies en route to Rubicon - need trip leaders


(21) August 1st, 2002: Rubicon - Whitewater to lead
MudBunny (1), CrazyHorse (1-4), CJBWILLYS (2-5), Paul Gagnon (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3), Whitewater (1)

(22) August 5th, 2002: Oregon and/or Washington - bashed4runner tentatively scheduled to lead trip in WA - the following has been suggested by Ben W for this leg:
Aug 5: Browns Camp in Or Ben W & bigblaze to help
Aug 7: Kaner/Shoestring/Funny Rocks in Central WA
Aug 8 or 9: Walker Valley or Reiter Trails in Western WA Ben W to help
MudBunny (1), TJoop (1), tiessen (1), CJ3BWILLYS (2-5), Valentine (1), Paul Gagnon (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3)

(23) August 8th, 2002: Somewhere in BC - Whizzy scheduled to lead
MudBunny (1), tiessen (1), Whizzy (1), Valentine (1)?, Paul Gagnon (1),
cornjeep (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3)

---Yukon leg cancelled due to injured ColdNorth


Looks like we're a little weak in the Southwest, the upper Midwest, the Northeast, & the Rockies. Looks like the runs in the Northwest & Midwest will be well attended. I suspect we'll pick up plenty of folks for the Southwest trips once we get closer, but we're gonna need some help with these NorthCentral/Northeast & Rockies trips. Bring it AWN gang! :)


TEX

I could probably make 6, and possibly #5, BUt my Jeep wont be ready ( I dont think its possible financially)

how tough are the trails? could I even consider my stock 4runner?

Ive got some buddys with jeeps running, and muich closer to running than my own, let me ask them.

ttt

Tex, June 9 is the ONE weekend I can't be available. :mad: Our rock crawling competition is June 8-9 at the Rock Garden. If anyone is interested in stopping by to watch while you're in the area, or entering for that matter, click on the Rock Garden 4 Wheelers link in my signature.:cool:

Originally posted by TEX
Okay, here's where everything stands as of now:

((22) August 5th, 2002: Oregon and/or Washington - bashed4runner tentatively scheduled to lead trip in WA - the following has been suggested by Ben W for this leg:
Aug 5: Browns Camp in Or Ben W & bigblaze to help
Aug 7: Kaner/Shoestring/Funny Rocks in Central WA
Aug 8 or 9: Walker Valley or Reiter Trails in Western WA Ben W to help
MudBunny (1), TJoop (1), tiessen (1), CJ3BWILLYS (2-5), Valentine (1), Paul Gagnon (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3)



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TEX

Erik D, homegrowntoy???? COME AWN!!!! chime in (you know you wanna lead trails James :D )

I am still excited about leading a trail ride. I know know my way around everywhere except funny rocks, I have only ran those trails 3-4 times and would not want to try to lead a group through them. I would reccomend we do highrider for it is one of the better trails in my area. Looking forward to seeing the group.

Tex,
Just a suggestion, but maybe the Farmington should be moved to where Gilmer was going to be? Come from Colorado to Farmington and then here to OK? Just a thought... might not be feasible. I think I'm gonna work with a couple of the fellas from Wagoner Machine to lead the runs at Disney, and get them involved in the rest as well... and then I'll coordinate everything.

Matt "Taz" Green

Originally posted by landuseorc
Tex, June 9 is the ONE weekend I can't be available. :mad: Our rock crawling competition is June 8-9 at the Rock Garden. If anyone is interested in stopping by to watch while you're in the area, or entering for that matter, click on the Rock Garden 4 Wheelers link in my signature.:cool:

Well, could we maybe make the competition your stop? That's kind of what we're doing with the Missouri stop - it's going to be a competition mud bog, mud drag, show n shine (don't laugh), and monster truck exhibition. So, not exactly your typical "trail ride" LOL. And actually, I was kind of hoping maybe one of these hard-core stops would coincide with a rock crawling competition. Little bit more variety in the "tour" that way, don't ya think?

TEX

Originally posted by ScoutsHonor
Tex,
Just a suggestion, but maybe the Farmington should be moved to where Gilmer was going to be? Come from Colorado to Farmington and then here to OK? Just a thought... might not be feasible. I think I'm gonna work with a couple of the fellas from Wagoner Machine to lead the runs at Disney, and get them involved in the rest as well... and then I'll coordinate everything.

Matt "Taz" Green

That might work too, or would that maybe make travel time kind of tight? Maybe I'd better get a map LOL!

TEX

Tex, let me know what you decide about Farmington, it would be great for folks to see our competition, its in its 4th year, and it draws folks from all over the country, even a lot of the big boys. If you decide you want to do it at another time, let me know, me or other club members are usually available. If you decide to just include day 2 of the competition, I'll supply explicit directions to find the area.

Originally posted by landuseorc
Tex, let me know what you decide about Farmington, it would be great for folks to see our competition, its in its 4th year, and it draws folks from all over the country, even a lot of the big boys. If you decide you want to do it at another time, let me know, me or other club members are usually available. If you decide to just include day 2 of the competition, I'll supply explicit directions to find the area.

Well, I think probably we should make the competition your official leg of the tour. May as well put both dates in there since stop 2 ends on the 7th. Might even help boost participation & spectator attendance for ya - a little anyway LOL.

TEX

I'd be in for #1 the Hammers, that's my neck of the woods. I could probably even take a tour back up to my folks in WA so hit the Rubicon, Oregon and Washington trails and into BC. Sounds like fun!!

Originally posted by TEX


Well, I think probably we should make the competition your official leg of the tour. May as well put both dates in there since stop 2 ends on the 7th. Might even help boost participation & spectator attendance for ya - a little anyway LOL.

TEX

That would be great, keep me posted on what I need to do.:cool:

Originally posted by landuseorc


That would be great, keep me posted on what I need to do.:cool:

Essentially, you'll just need to keep everyone informed on what they'd need to do to participate or spectate. I'll edit your link into the schedule, so if the info is going to be on your site, then there'll really be no need for any details here.

TEX

Hmmm I'm going to see about catching up with this for the MontEagle and Tellico stuff.
The SE crew is
Depdog,
Keith (forget his nick here 79 Blazer of something)
BigJBear.
Bet the four of us will try to make a showing.

I'm interested in stop #8.

Sign me up for #2

Jeeper

Originally posted by TEX


Essentially, you'll just need to keep everyone informed on what they'd need to do to participate or spectate. I'll edit your link into the schedule, so if the info is going to be on your site, then there'll really be no need for any details here.

TEX

The url for the Rock Garden 4 Wheelers Rock Crawling Competition is:
http://home.off-road.com/~rockgarden/pages/upcoming_events.html

Originally posted by TJoop


Erik D, homegrowntoy???? COME AWN!!!! chime in (you know you wanna lead trails James :D )

I will be there for #22 :flipoff2:

DAMN IT!!! June 15 in Clayton is the weekend of my families 5 year reunion in Indiana.... :( (beating head on keyboard) I won't be able to make it :crybaby2:

I might be up for meeting some folks at #15 Silver Lake, MI. I would also be up for #16, but being in the middle of the week is kind of a killer. I have never been to Silver Lake, but have wanted to, so this might be a cool reason.

So what exactly is this around the country wheeling thing anyway? Are there actually some folks that will be doing this whole tour? Or is it just getting as many folks as possible from this BBS together at different locations throughout the summer? What level of trails are you looking to experience? There really isn't too much real challenging stuff here in WI/MI/MN that I am aware of, but some of the land is real scenic. Where are you planning to run in MN? I believe there is a park opening up in northern MN in an old mining area if it is not already open. I have wheeled at McCaslin Mtn with Woody a number of times (Northeastern WI), and I have also wheeled at Dresser WI (with Midwest 4WD assoc.) which is the back side of a ski hill that has been developed with trails and obstacles, but not open to general public use. I believe a club in MN pretty much runs the place.

Jeff

Originally posted by Jeff 92xj WI


So what exactly is this around the country wheeling thing anyway? Are there actually some folks that will be doing this whole tour?

Not likely.

Or is it just getting as many folks as possible from this BBS together at different locations throughout the summer?

That's basically it :)

What level of trails are you looking to experience?

Anything & Everything. Some of the Southwest & Southeast stuff is gonna be really hardcore. Maybe some other spots as well. But, I think there'll be some stops along the way where newbies with mild rigs can have some fun. And that's how it should be IMO :)

TEX

I was just talking with the wife and making sure I have the time off work... I am free no problem.. I need to know what kind of rigs to plan for... and if folks like rocks only or mud or the beach or what... e-mail me for details.
cpepin1@ec.rr.com

Originally posted by TEX


Some of the Southwest & Southeast stuff is gonna be really hardcore. Maybe some other spots as well.

TEX

Don't forget Troy's Trail at the the Badlands is hardcore also, but the Badlands has plenty of trails for all levels too. Not ALL the hardcore trails are on the west coast, just most. :D

#22 Aug 5th, I'll be there with the rest of the oregon wheelers.
:cool:

ttt

I am alittle confused. Is there a bunch of people rolling through all the stops? I am supposed to be the trip leader for the AZ stop. Who will be there? I am sure a bunch of us AZ guys will be there. But what about the out of staters? :confused:

I am wondering about the Pirate tour in South Dakota and Mn.
Who , What ,When , Where,Who?
I live in South eastern South Dakota right off I-29 and close to I-90.

I will be in the Black hills July 20th through the 28th with a couple other guys. We will be running as many trails as we can.
If anyone wants to join up and wheel in the Hills let me know.
(granted that the BH4 Wheelers club and forest service thinks its Ok to wheel due to the fires near deadwood last week)

Brian
flexlarson@hotmail.com