View Full Version : Ingersoll-Rand or Craftsman impact socket?
TexasBlake
05-08-2005, 07:12 PM
I'm in dire need of some impact sockets. I'm tired of scarring up my Craftsman chrome sockets with my impact. I don't need Snap on, Matco, SK, quality. But I don't want anything less than Craftsman. I also need a good amount of sockets, both 3/8 and 1/2 drive. I'm looking at these three sets:
Ingersoll-Rand 86-piece Mega Impact Socket Set (http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00919580000)
Craftsman 95 pc. Impact Socket Set, SAE/Metric 3/8 and 1/2 in. Drive, 6 pt. Standard/Deep
(http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00934294000)
Craftsman 68 pc. Impact Tool Set (http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00919514000)
The first set is nice, but I think it has a bunch of stuff I don't really need. It really only comes with a few more sockets, and everyting else is just extra junk that'll hardly get used. The only reason I'm even considering it, is because it's on sale right now.
The second set is ngersoll-Rand. I don't know if these are better or worse than Craftsman, but I wouldn't mind stepping up in quality for the little extra price. The only problem I see with these sockets, is that if I break one, I can't really just walk into Sears and have it warrantied. But if these are MUCH better than Craftsman, I'll buy those. I've never even broken a chrome Craftsman socket, so I don't think I'll have much luck breaking a true impact socket.
Also, do impact sockets fit in Hansen socket trays? I really like the Hansen trays cause they take up so little room. I'm tired of my big bulky grey Craftsman drop in trays that take up an entire drawer.
The third set is the one I'm looking at the most. It has pretty much everything I need to get by for now.
Just looking for input on some decent qualiy impact sockets. Thanks.
Impact sockets are pretty tough. I have seen people use craftsman for years in the shop. Another lower priced but very good brand to look at is Sunex.
TexasBlake
05-08-2005, 07:24 PM
Impact sockets are pretty tough. I have seen people use craftsman for years in the shop. Another lower priced but very good brand to look at is Sunex.
I'm mainly looking at getting somthing from Sears card balance is empty right now. :D
maddog
05-08-2005, 07:34 PM
Impact sockets are pretty tough. I have seen people use craftsman for years in the shop. Another lower priced but very good brand to look at is Sunex.
This sight might have what your looking for.
http://www.automotivetools.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-SU-5153DD.html?L+scstore+cgkv6575ff183f18+1115663690
SUNEX Socket Set:
Master Socket Set, Fractional and Metric, 1/2 inch Drive, Double Deep, Impact, 29 pc. (Sunex: model 5153DD)
Includes:
Deep 7/16", 1/2", 9/16", 5/8", 11/16", 3/4", 13/16", 7/8", 15/16", 1", 1-1/16", 1-1/8", 1-1/4"
Deep 10mm, 11mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 21mm, 22mm, 26mm, 27mm
3/4" x 13/16" Deep and 19mm x 21mm Deep Flip Sockets
Blow Molded Case
ironpig70
05-08-2005, 08:30 PM
i don't know i like craftsman but they don't break down the sizes at all on the 68 piece set. on the 95 piece set you have a 1/4" socket not really needed imho. and they dont say what the 1/2 sizes include. and i see extensions and 2 swivels and an adapter looks like on the 95 piece. as for quality i dont know dont use either i have hf sockets and abuse them daily with out failure for almost a year now :D
TexasBlake
05-08-2005, 08:49 PM
i don't know i like craftsman but they don't break down the sizes at all on the 68 piece set. on the 95 piece set you have a 1/4" socket not really needed imho. and they dont say what the 1/2 sizes include. and i see extensions and 2 swivels and an adapter looks like on the 95 piece. as for quality i dont know dont use either i have hf sockets and abuse them daily with out failure for almost a year now :D
I have all the sizes in the magazine. The 95 piece doesn't give any bigger sockets, just smaller. The IR set comes with more sockets, and bigger ones.
I bought a set if HF impact sockets and broke the 3/4" socket taking a lug nut off my Jeep the same day.
Toyota_Jim
05-08-2005, 10:09 PM
My snapon 1/4,3/8,1/2" drive impacts fit in the hansen trays nicely. I think the 9/16 1/2" drive deep is the only one that the little peg took a couple seconds with the grinder to make fit better..
ironpig70
05-08-2005, 10:12 PM
I have all the sizes in the magazine. The 95 piece doesn't give any bigger sockets, just smaller. The IR set comes with more sockets, and bigger ones.
I bought a set if HF impact sockets and broke the 3/4" socket taking a lug nut off my Jeep the same day.
bigger is better in my opion i have never needed under 1/2" impact before and those i could easily break loose with a wrench.
Robert
05-09-2005, 02:17 AM
Just remember that Craftsman impact tools carry NO WARRANTY. :shaking:
The IRs atleast have a warranty.
AmigoTJ44
05-09-2005, 04:55 AM
Just remember that Craftsman impact tools carry NO WARRANTY. :shaking:
The IRs atleast have a warranty.
Their sockets carry a warrenty, its the air tools that carry a 1 to 2 year warranty depending on which "level" (changes there supplier as well) you buy. I have had HF and broke them without trying the craftsman have held up well. They have a thick wall, the better brands are thinner though. They also aren't made their usual supplier.
kyle_22r
05-09-2005, 09:51 AM
strangely enough, we use harbor freight impact sockets at work and we've never had a problem.
Yeah, my HF impact stuff is cheap and tough in my experience.
CrustyJeep
05-09-2005, 04:14 PM
My HF's are good too. In fact, I've never in my life broken any kind of impact socket that I can recall. They're pretty damn tough. They will wear out around the drive hole though.
What pisses me off about the HF set is, I lost my 1-1/8 deep socket a while back and they don't sell individual replacements that large (would have been a couple bucks if they did). You'll have a really hard time finding individual sockets that cost less then the whole set did. Soo annoying. That annoyance is why I bought my shallow set from the MAC truck.
TexasBlake
05-09-2005, 10:19 PM
Well the HF socket I broke was a deep socket, maybe that has to do with it. It basically cracked in two places from the business end to where the impact attaches.
Todd W
05-10-2005, 12:44 AM
I`ve had a craftsman 3/4" socket for a little over a year now and have had no problems. Use it for tons of stuff I`d buy again. Instead of the set I just get the few I need.
Hanr3
05-10-2005, 11:27 PM
I bought a set of deep wells and broke the 19mm and 21mm within 2 days. Since then I have broke the 22mm and 24mm. Then again, my impact gun puts out 675 pounds of torque. I can twist froozen lug studs right off.
The Duracraft brand impact last a heck of a lot longer, although they are thicker too. I haven't broken any of them yet.
Haven't tried the Craftsmen series yet.
I won't even use my Craftsmen regular sockets with my impact gun. I manage to break them with just the rachet as it is now.
As for which set to get.
Get a decent set of deep well standard and metric sockets, a bunch of extensions, including a wobble extension. I have had times where I needed 2' of extension and a wobble socket, like upper tranny bolts and rear shocks. Then get regular well sockets in the same sizes, and finally a complete set of wobble sockets.
Robert
05-11-2005, 03:39 AM
Their sockets carry a warrenty, its the air tools that carry a 1 to 2 year warranty depending on which "level" (changes there supplier as well) you buy. I have had HF and broke them without trying the craftsman have held up well. They have a thick wall, the better brands are thinner though. They also aren't made their usual supplier.
Nope. The impact sockets are considered part of a power tool, and ARE NOT WARRANTIED against breakage. I have tried to trade brokens in and been denied. Craftsman impact sockets break just as easy as every one elses.
AmigoTJ44
05-11-2005, 05:02 AM
Nope. The impact sockets are considered part of a power tool, and ARE NOT WARRANTIED against breakage. I have tried to trade brokens in and been denied. Craftsman impact sockets break just as easy as every one elses.
I worked there through college we never denied anyone.
looking at there web site someones feeding you a line of crap
taken from their website
Craftsman 12 pc. Impact Socket Set, SAE 1/2 in. Drive Deep 6 pt.
Sears item #00919440000 Mfr. model #19440
12 pc., 1/2 in. standard deep Impact Socket set. Includes sizes 3/8 thru 1-1/16 in. Includes carrying case. Guaranteed forever! Learn more
Robert
05-11-2005, 10:56 AM
I worked there through college we never denied anyone.
looking at there web site someones feeding you a line of crap
taken from their website
Craftsman 12 pc. Impact Socket Set, SAE 1/2 in. Drive Deep 6 pt.
Sears item #00919440000 Mfr. model #19440
12 pc., 1/2 in. standard deep Impact Socket set. Includes sizes 3/8 thru 1-1/16 in. Includes carrying case. Guaranteed forever! Learn more
I have tried at several different stores in the Sacramento and Phoenix areas. Always been turned down on warranty on impact sockets.
Also, I have never seen any mention of a warranty on the packaging for Craftsman impact sockets.
Personally, I would check out EBAY for a cheap set of MAtco, Mac or Snap On sockets ;)
whthilux
05-11-2005, 01:42 PM
My northern tool impacts have worked fine cheap too,probably the same as harbor freight.
CrustyJeep
05-11-2005, 01:51 PM
10+ years ago Sears was a good place to get hand tools. I never had trouble with warranty and the quality was pretty good. As far as I can tell, those days are long gone; Sears is no longer a viable tool vendor for anyone serious about their tools.
kyle_22r
05-12-2005, 08:56 PM
less and less stuff seems to be high quality. their old fine tooth round ratchets were almost as nice as my blackhawk/proto stuff, but try finding any of that any more.
74_Chevota
05-12-2005, 09:31 PM
I have got the HF deep well impacts and havent had a problem in over a year. But personaly I am not a big fan of craftsman. Their stuff seems to get worse and worse as the years go on but the early generation stuff is awesome. My dad has alot of old craftsmen stuff from back in the day they used on farm equipment and it is still going strong. IR is the best bet IMO.
Has anyone researched who makes the Craftsman sockets? I'd say there's a 99% chance they don't make them themselves. They better not, given the price. I've always thought Craftsman is proud (too proud) of their impact sockets.
I bet they're made by IR or Danaher/Armstrong or something.
I too, have had no problems with the HF sockets, and they're stupid cheap. But I only have an IR2131 gun.
AmigoTJ44
05-13-2005, 12:05 PM
Craftsman impact are made by KD, their usal distributor for handtools is western forge. Air poswer are made by IR and Chicago I believe but their middle line stuff coming out seems to have changed.
Like all tool companies there are certain things they just cant do right. Ratchets, screw drivers, some power tools (depending on the dist). Power tools are made by Makita, Ryobi and Black and decker.
Craftsman impact are made by KD, their usal distributor for handtools is western forge. Air poswer are made by IR and Chicago I believe but their middle line stuff coming out seems to have changed.
Like all tool companies there are certain things they just cant do right. Ratchets, screw drivers, some power tools (depending on the dist). Power tools are made by Makita, Ryobi and Black and decker.
I think they're all over the map. But yeah, I swear my one Craftsman HD die grinder is a Chicago Pneumatic. But Craftsman is now selling the contorting Porter Cable sawzall re-badged as Craftsman..............so add PC to the list.
My 1/2" Craftsman pneumatic drill is Florida Pneumatic
critterkiller
05-15-2005, 07:29 PM
I work for sears hardware. Most everything is made by someone else. Our chepest air tools (mostly companion brand) are the same as you would find in HF. Most of our professional models are made by IR.
As far as impact sockets go, anyone who says they don't have a lifetime warranty is full of shit. I'd be happy to swap one out, but one year into the job I've never seen one returned. Ever. More than I can say for the HF "impact" sockets.
I know it's cool to hate Craftsman these days, and I'll be the first to admit that there has been a quality decline amongst certain items (the standard rachets are pretty bad) but they still make a lot of good tools. You can swap in any hand tool you break and walk out with a new one, easy as that. Unless you're an idiot who dosen't know what hand tool means ie. not a skilsaw. Sure snap-on's better, but I'm poor and $30 for a pair of pliers is a little high for my budget.
critterkiller
05-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Oh, the power tools are made by everyone. Really.
If anyone ever wants a honest review on something we sell, PM me. I tell you if we get alot returned, broke, ect.
To prove I'm honest, the twin cutter is a piece of shit. But you probably already guessed that.
tenpack
05-15-2005, 11:06 PM
I've used craftsman at work for a couple years now and have had no problems. Fairly well priced around here, and easily available.
I know you said you want to buy from sears, but dollar for dollar, sunnex impact sockets cant be beat, period.
about a year ago, me and a buddy both purchased deep well metric impact sockets off two different tool trucks. I bought sunnex, he bought snap on. I paid $90 for a 15 peice set, he paid $324 for a 15 peice set. We both dismantle cars for a living, and work these sockets to death.
a year later, there has been no breakage from either set, but his snap-on's have alot more visable wear from the impact than my sunnex's.
you can find smokin' deals on the sunnex's on ebay too.
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